Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCPS should have bought the GDS lower campus when it was up for sale last year. Apparently another school bought it and DCPS didn't even express interest.

"Houser characterized the prospective buyer as a school group that does not currently operate in Washington, D.C., and is interested in running a campus with a grade arrangement comparable to GDS’s PK-8 program. He declined to identify the school, per an agreement between the parties.

Five entities have expressed “bonafide” interest in the property, located at the bottom of Q Street and now fully enrolled with 575 students. The entities include two other schools — one within D.C., but not DCPS, and the other outside — and two developers, according to Houser,"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCPS should have bought the GDS lower campus when it was up for sale last year. Apparently another school bought it and DCPS didn't even express interest.

"Houser characterized the prospective buyer as a school group that does not currently operate in Washington, D.C., and is interested in running a campus with a grade arrangement comparable to GDS’s PK-8 program. He declined to identify the school, per an agreement between the parties.

Five entities have expressed “bonafide” interest in the property, located at the bottom of Q Street and now fully enrolled with 575 students. The entities include two other schools — one within D.C., but not DCPS, and the other outside — and two developers, according to Houser,"

Source?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:School 1: Brightwood, Janney, Lafayette, March, Powell, Shepherd and West

School 2: Bancroft, Cooke, Eaton, Hearst, Hyde, Marie Reed, Mann, Oyster-Adams, and Stoddert

Both would be around 500 a class

How does this not work? It checks the most positive blocks and the least amount of negative ones. Each has diversity. Each has a highly educated population. Each brings in currently underserved but growing areas. It's geographically sound. It's hugely symbolic by uniting both sides of the park. Each increases resident and student retention. Each increases property values. Each has schools with available OOB spots. Each would be filled.

Bancroft, Powell and Oyster-Adams are dual-language schools and need ro feed to McFarland. Replace with Barnard, Raymond, and Tubman.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Something centered around swapping part of Howard Law for old Banneker might work, although I would hope to save that site for another magnet school.

Finding real estate is the easy part! Have you met the groups of people this satisfies?

What about moving UDC, which hardly has any students in Ward 3? That large parcel could be a great site for several schools, recreational facilities and redevelopment along Conn. Ave. Mayor Williams proposed moving UDC to the St. Elizabeths campus to be closer to the population that UDC serves.

Well, aren’t these two posts just the perfect encapsulation of racist DCUM bullshit?

I mean, why wouldn’t we just uproot established schools that primarily serve black students because we have the sads that Deal has trailers again?

Do you all hear yourselves? It’s shameful.

Tony Williams had the right idea. Move UDC to a location that is closer to more of its students, one that actually has the feel of an ivy campus, the St Elizabeth's site. Unlock the economic potential of the Van Ness site, and use the money to improve both the campus and programs of UDC.

But no, the so-called guardians of UDC wanted to cling to their Brutalist bunker along Connecticut, because having Ward 3 real estate was somehow making a statement or "prestigious" in their minds It's the same for Duke Ellington, which is not in a very central or transit-accessible location for the vast majority of its students (including the ones who really live in Maryland. )

I don't know who you think goes to school at UDC, but I taught a class there last week and at least from what I could see that day, far more than half of students are international. It is not at all some refuge for Ward 7/8 students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something centered around swapping part of Howard Law for old Banneker might work, although I would hope to save that site for another magnet school.

Finding real estate is the easy part! Have you met the groups of people this satisfies?

What about moving UDC, which hardly has any students in Ward 3? That large parcel could be a great site for several schools, recreational facilities and redevelopment along Conn. Ave. Mayor Williams proposed moving UDC to the St. Elizabeths campus to be closer to the population that UDC serves.

Well, aren’t these two posts just the perfect encapsulation of racist DCUM bullshit?

I mean, why wouldn’t we just uproot established schools that primarily serve black students because we have the sads that Deal has trailers again?

Do you all hear yourselves? It’s shameful.

Tony Williams had the right idea. Move UDC to a location that is closer to more of its students, one that actually has the feel of an ivy campus, the St Elizabeth's site. Unlock the economic potential of the Van Ness site, and use the money to improve both the campus and programs of UDC.

But no, the so-called guardians of UDC wanted to cling to their Brutalist bunker along Connecticut, because having Ward 3 real estate was somehow making a statement or "prestigious" in their minds It's the same for Duke Ellington, which is not in a very central or transit-accessible location for the vast majority of its students (including the ones who really live in Maryland. )

I don't know who you think goes to school at UDC, but I taught a class there last week and at least from what I could see that day, far more than half of students are international. It is not at all some refuge for Ward 7/8 students.

They probably aren’t living in Spring Valley! In any event, Mayor Williams’ administration certainly looked at commuting data for the students, regardless of their national origin.

The point is that UDC is not optimally located on Van Ness. Instead the site could better serve as a location for badly needed school facilities in Ward 3, with some of the site developed near the Metro which would help to pay for the whole thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something centered around swapping part of Howard Law for old Banneker might work, although I would hope to save that site for another magnet school.

Finding real estate is the easy part! Have you met the groups of people this satisfies?

What about moving UDC, which hardly has any students in Ward 3? That large parcel could be a great site for several schools, recreational facilities and redevelopment along Conn. Ave. Mayor Williams proposed moving UDC to the St. Elizabeths campus to be closer to the population that UDC serves.

Well, aren’t these two posts just the perfect encapsulation of racist DCUM bullshit?

I mean, why wouldn’t we just uproot established schools that primarily serve black students because we have the sads that Deal has trailers again?

Do you all hear yourselves? It’s shameful.

Tony Williams had the right idea. Move UDC to a location that is closer to more of its students, one that actually has the feel of an ivy campus, the St Elizabeth's site. Unlock the economic potential of the Van Ness site, and use the money to improve both the campus and programs of UDC.

But no, the so-called guardians of UDC wanted to cling to their Brutalist bunker along Connecticut, because having Ward 3 real estate was somehow making a statement or "prestigious" in their minds It's the same for Duke Ellington, which is not in a very central or transit-accessible location for the vast majority of its students (including the ones who really live in Maryland. )

I don't know who you think goes to school at UDC, but I taught a class there last week and at least from what I could see that day, far more than half of students are international. It is not at all some refuge for Ward 7/8 students.

They probably aren’t living in Spring Valley! In any event, Mayor Williams’ administration certainly looked at commuting data for the students, regardless of their national origin.

The point is that UDC is not optimally located on Van Ness. Instead the site could better serve as a location for badly needed school facilities in Ward 3, with some of the site developed near the Metro which would help to pay for the whole thing.

Mayor Williams hasn't been mayor in over a decade. He was floating that idea as part of an economic development plan that has since been overtaken by events.

DC needs facilities to serve ADULTS too, not just school-aged children. And there is no need to buy buildings or build new ones when there are under-utilized schools.

1) Root out non-DC residents first city-wide to see what the actual school population is. Subject every school, especially those that are at- or near-capacity to an Ellington-scope review (without the OSSe procedural incompetence)

2) Terminate rights to stay in a school if you move OOB at end of school year when you move. Period. No principal discretion.

3) End OOB rights to entire feeder path; only through terminal grade of school.

4) Redraw boundaries dramatically. As much as people howl, it works (see Eaton --> Hardy, and how now Hardy is acceptable to in demand).

[Anonymous]

No. 4 would be all you need to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. 4 would be all you need to do.

True. But that process takes a year, best case scenario. And doing 1-3 first / simultaneously blunts predictable arguments from those people will be angry over how their house winds up as a result of #4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. 4 would be all you need to do.

True. But that process takes a year, best case scenario. And doing 1-3 first / simultaneously blunts predictable arguments from those people will be angry over how their house winds up as a result of #4.

If DC is to maintain a system of neighborhood/area schools, number three is the only option. Period.

[Anonymous]

DC should pursue options 1 to 3, with numbers 1 and 2 immediately.

[Anonymous]

Watch out for Wilson kids selling pot brownies. Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something centered around swapping part of Howard Law for old Banneker might work, although I would hope to save that site for another magnet school.

Finding real estate is the easy part! Have you met the groups of people this satisfies?

What about moving UDC, which hardly has any students in Ward 3? That large parcel could be a great site for several schools, recreational facilities and redevelopment along Conn. Ave. Mayor Williams proposed moving UDC to the St. Elizabeths campus to be closer to the population that UDC serves.

Well, aren’t these two posts just the perfect encapsulation of racist DCUM bullshit?

I mean, why wouldn’t we just uproot established schools that primarily serve black students because we have the sads that Deal has trailers again?

Do you all hear yourselves? It’s shameful.

Tony Williams had the right idea. Move UDC to a location that is closer to more of its students, one that actually has the feel of an ivy campus, the St Elizabeth's site. Unlock the economic potential of the Van Ness site, and use the money to improve both the campus and programs of UDC.

But no, the so-called guardians of UDC wanted to cling to their Brutalist bunker along Connecticut, because having Ward 3 real estate was somehow making a statement or "prestigious" in their minds It's the same for Duke Ellington, which is not in a very central or transit-accessible location for the vast majority of its students (including the ones who really live in Maryland. )

I don't know who you think goes to school at UDC, but I taught a class there last week and at least from what I could see that day, far more than half of students are international. It is not at all some refuge for Ward 7/8 students.

They probably aren’t living in Spring Valley! In any event, Mayor Williams’ administration certainly looked at commuting data for the students, regardless of their national origin.

The point is that UDC is not optimally located on Van Ness. Instead the site could better serve as a location for badly needed school facilities in Ward 3, with some of the site developed near the Metro which would help to pay for the whole thing.

I live in forest hills and I’m glad that UDC is here. Why shouldn’t they have a nice location and campus? I went to a tour of their greenhouse and the students were great. Their buildings are well established so I don’t think it makes any sense to move. Don’t we want to give these kids incentives to graduate? Also that old Intelsat property sat vacant for a long time and now that new school bought it. It’s quite a big plot of land so perhaps part of that could be bought by dcps, etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something centered around swapping part of Howard Law for old Banneker might work, although I would hope to save that site for another magnet school.

Finding real estate is the easy part! Have you met the groups of people this satisfies?

What about moving UDC, which hardly has any students in Ward 3? That large parcel could be a great site for several schools, recreational facilities and redevelopment along Conn. Ave. Mayor Williams proposed moving UDC to the St. Elizabeths campus to be closer to the population that UDC serves.

Well, aren’t these two posts just the perfect encapsulation of racist DCUM bullshit?

I mean, why wouldn’t we just uproot established schools that primarily serve black students because we have the sads that Deal has trailers again?

Do you all hear yourselves? It’s shameful.

Tony Williams had the right idea. Move UDC to a location that is closer to more of its students, one that actually has the feel of an ivy campus, the St Elizabeth's site. Unlock the economic potential of the Van Ness site, and use the money to improve both the campus and programs of UDC.

But no, the so-called guardians of UDC wanted to cling to their Brutalist bunker along Connecticut, because having Ward 3 real estate was somehow making a statement or "prestigious" in their minds It's the same for Duke Ellington, which is not in a very central or transit-accessible location for the vast majority of its students (including the ones who really live in Maryland. )

I don't know who you think goes to school at UDC, but I taught a class there last week and at least from what I could see that day, far more than half of students are international. It is not at all some refuge for Ward 7/8 students.

They probably aren’t living in Spring Valley! In any event, Mayor Williams’ administration certainly looked at commuting data for the students, regardless of their national origin.

The point is that UDC is not optimally located on Van Ness. Instead the site could better serve as a location for badly needed school facilities in Ward 3, with some of the site developed near the Metro which would help to pay for the whole thing.

I live in forest hills and I’m glad that UDC is here. Why shouldn’t they have a nice location and campus? I went to a tour of their greenhouse and the students were great. Their buildings are well established so I don’t think it makes any sense to move. Don’t we want to give these kids incentives to graduate? Also that old Intelsat property sat vacant for a long time and now that new school bought it. It’s quite a big plot of land so perhaps part of that could be bought by dcps, etc

First of all, DC is not going into the private market to buy property. Second the park at Intelsat was created as part of a covenant when the building was built. It can’t be built upon.

[Anonymous]

Just end feeder rights. That should allow Deal’s and Wilson’s enrollments to stabilize. It will also focus needed attention on schools EOTP. A win-win.

[Anonymous]

End OOB feeder ‘rights’