Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:It's true sometimes people just turn on famous women for no real reason. That happens all the time. And it does feel like a lot of the Lively hate is just due to her being overexposed.

BUT Lively also has a history of being tone deaf and flat out unkind. And even if you don't care about the 2016 interview, I don't get how you defend the weird and very insensitive stuff she's said regarding DV in the last month or so while promoting a movie that is *about* DV-- like not a movie about other stuff with a DV component but a movie that is explicitly about DV.

I think this is more like a Lance Armstrong situation-- if a public person is enough of a jerk to enough people for long enough, eventually people stop making excuses and turn on them. It can seem abrupt but when you look back you see these breadcrumbs that go all the way back to the beginning of their career.

Listen, I have never really liked Blake Lively. But this revisionist history turning a COLLEEN HOOVER book into some material that was supposed to be about bringing awareness to DV? Please, she is the lifetime movie network of authors. Her genre is DV adjacent sm*t. No fans of CH are going into that movie expecting some deeply meaningful deep dive into DV. The main character is a florist named Lily Bloom. That is what we're working with here.

I also think its telling that the entire cast seems to be on her side. She is kind of an annoying vapid Serena Van Der Wood type, I'm not denying it. But I think that the fact that her costar has been abandoned by all the women working on the movie and has hired the same PR firm that reps Depp and Pitt and Weinstein is shady AF and makes me very much side eye this 'Blake Lively is the devil' message they have gotten into the public eye.

Blake Lively is not the devil. She just sounds like someone who has been too entitled for too long and forgot humility and manners, if she ever had them. She also is a billionaire, married to a huge douchebag billionaire. Baldoni is just a working guy in Hollywood. The imbalance of power is not on his side on this, so let's not make it into what it's not because one PR firm got hired.

THE PR firm got hired. And right now he's fully winning the PR war despite literally no costars and even his own podcast partner seemingly icing him out. Just seems like a long trend of this particular PR firm. Tarring and feathering a woman who isn't particularly loved to ensure the sterling reputation of a handsome man.

What is the name of this amazing PR form that make Blake do and say racist and transphobic things? And how did they master the art and science of time travel because Blake has been like this for almost 20 years!

This! I don't like how blake is disregarding DV being a serious topic in this movie and I don't like how she double down her nasty behavior to that reported. That had nothing to do with Justin or his PR team.

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Anonymous wrote:It's true sometimes people just turn on famous women for no real reason. That happens all the time. And it does feel like a lot of the Lively hate is just due to her being overexposed.

BUT Lively also has a history of being tone deaf and flat out unkind. And even if you don't care about the 2016 interview, I don't get how you defend the weird and very insensitive stuff she's said regarding DV in the last month or so while promoting a movie that is *about* DV-- like not a movie about other stuff with a DV component but a movie that is explicitly about DV.

I think this is more like a Lance Armstrong situation-- if a public person is enough of a jerk to enough people for long enough, eventually people stop making excuses and turn on them. It can seem abrupt but when you look back you see these breadcrumbs that go all the way back to the beginning of their career.

Listen, I have never really liked Blake Lively. But this revisionist history turning a COLLEEN HOOVER book into some material that was supposed to be about bringing awareness to DV? Please, she is the lifetime movie network of authors. Her genre is DV adjacent sm*t. No fans of CH are going into that movie expecting some deeply meaningful deep dive into DV. The main character is a florist named Lily Bloom. That is what we're working with here.

I also think its telling that the entire cast seems to be on her side. She is kind of an annoying vapid Serena Van Der Wood type, I'm not denying it. But I think that the fact that her costar has been abandoned by all the women working on the movie and has hired the same PR firm that reps Depp and Pitt and Weinstein is shady AF and makes me very much side eye this 'Blake Lively is the devil' message they have gotten into the public eye.

Blake Lively is not the devil. She just sounds like someone who has been too entitled for too long and forgot humility and manners, if she ever had them. She also is a billionaire, married to a huge douchebag billionaire. Baldoni is just a working guy in Hollywood. The imbalance of power is not on his side on this, so let's not make it into what it's not because one PR firm got hired.

THE PR firm got hired. And right now he's fully winning the PR war despite literally no costars and even his own podcast partner seemingly icing him out. Just seems like a long trend of this particular PR firm. Tarring and feathering a woman who isn't particularly loved to ensure the sterling reputation of a handsome man.

What is the name of this amazing PR form that make Blake do and say racist and transphobic things? And how did they master the art and science of time travel because Blake has been like this for almost 20 years!

This! I don't like how blake is disregarding DV being a serious topic in this movie and I don't like how she double down her nasty behavior to that reported. That had nothing to do with Justin or his PR team.

Honestly this is the only part I think is ridiculous. Have you read the book? Or ANY of the books. Colleen Hoover's entire oeuvre is basically DV adjacent soft core p*rn. I'm sure this line of criticism makes sense if you haven't read the books but this is like trashing the lifetime movie network for disregarding serious topics. I mean they DO, but its the source material and its baked into the premise. No one is coming for CH for writing total trash, Blake should not have to bear the weight of treating the movie exactly like its author and primary audience treat it.

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Anonymous wrote:It's true sometimes people just turn on famous women for no real reason. That happens all the time. And it does feel like a lot of the Lively hate is just due to her being overexposed.

BUT Lively also has a history of being tone deaf and flat out unkind. And even if you don't care about the 2016 interview, I don't get how you defend the weird and very insensitive stuff she's said regarding DV in the last month or so while promoting a movie that is *about* DV-- like not a movie about other stuff with a DV component but a movie that is explicitly about DV.

I think this is more like a Lance Armstrong situation-- if a public person is enough of a jerk to enough people for long enough, eventually people stop making excuses and turn on them. It can seem abrupt but when you look back you see these breadcrumbs that go all the way back to the beginning of their career.

Listen, I have never really liked Blake Lively. But this revisionist history turning a COLLEEN HOOVER book into some material that was supposed to be about bringing awareness to DV? Please, she is the lifetime movie network of authors. Her genre is DV adjacent sm*t. No fans of CH are going into that movie expecting some deeply meaningful deep dive into DV. The main character is a florist named Lily Bloom. That is what we're working with here.

I also think its telling that the entire cast seems to be on her side. She is kind of an annoying vapid Serena Van Der Wood type, I'm not denying it. But I think that the fact that her costar has been abandoned by all the women working on the movie and has hired the same PR firm that reps Depp and Pitt and Weinstein is shady AF and makes me very much side eye this 'Blake Lively is the devil' message they have gotten into the public eye.

Blake Lively is not the devil. She just sounds like someone who has been too entitled for too long and forgot humility and manners, if she ever had them. She also is a billionaire, married to a huge douchebag billionaire. Baldoni is just a working guy in Hollywood. The imbalance of power is not on his side on this, so let's not make it into what it's not because one PR firm got hired.

THE PR firm got hired. And right now he's fully winning the PR war despite literally no costars and even his own podcast partner seemingly icing him out. Just seems like a long trend of this particular PR firm. Tarring and feathering a woman who isn't particularly loved to ensure the sterling reputation of a handsome man.

What is the name of this amazing PR form that make Blake do and say racist and transphobic things? And how did they master the art and science of time travel because Blake has been like this for almost 20 years!

This! I don't like how blake is disregarding DV being a serious topic in this movie and I don't like how she double down her nasty behavior to that reported. That had nothing to do with Justin or his PR team.

Honestly this is the only part I think is ridiculous. Have you read the book? Or ANY of the books. Colleen Hoover's entire oeuvre is basically DV adjacent soft core p*rn. I'm sure this line of criticism makes sense if you haven't read the books but this is like trashing the lifetime movie network for disregarding serious topics. I mean they DO, but it’s the source material and its baked into the premise. No one is coming for CH for writing total trash, Blake should not have to bear the weight of treating the movie exactly like its author and primary audience treat it.

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NP. I feel like I already read this comment earlier in the thread…

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Anonymous wrote:It's true sometimes people just turn on famous women for no real reason. That happens all the time. And it does feel like a lot of the Lively hate is just due to her being overexposed.

BUT Lively also has a history of being tone deaf and flat out unkind. And even if you don't care about the 2016 interview, I don't get how you defend the weird and very insensitive stuff she's said regarding DV in the last month or so while promoting a movie that is *about* DV-- like not a movie about other stuff with a DV component but a movie that is explicitly about DV.

I think this is more like a Lance Armstrong situation-- if a public person is enough of a jerk to enough people for long enough, eventually people stop making excuses and turn on them. It can seem abrupt but when you look back you see these breadcrumbs that go all the way back to the beginning of their career.

Listen, I have never really liked Blake Lively. But this revisionist history turning a COLLEEN HOOVER book into some material that was supposed to be about bringing awareness to DV? Please, she is the lifetime movie network of authors. Her genre is DV adjacent sm*t. No fans of CH are going into that movie expecting some deeply meaningful deep dive into DV. The main character is a florist named Lily Bloom. That is what we're working with here.

I also think its telling that the entire cast seems to be on her side. She is kind of an annoying vapid Serena Van Der Wood type, I'm not denying it. But I think that the fact that her costar has been abandoned by all the women working on the movie and has hired the same PR firm that reps Depp and Pitt and Weinstein is shady AF and makes me very much side eye this 'Blake Lively is the devil' message they have gotten into the public eye.

Blake Lively is not the devil. She just sounds like someone who has been too entitled for too long and forgot humility and manners, if she ever had them. She also is a billionaire, married to a huge douchebag billionaire. Baldoni is just a working guy in Hollywood. The imbalance of power is not on his side on this, so let's not make it into what it's not because one PR firm got hired.

THE PR firm got hired. And right now he's fully winning the PR war despite literally no costars and even his own podcast partner seemingly icing him out. Just seems like a long trend of this particular PR firm. Tarring and feathering a woman who isn't particularly loved to ensure the sterling reputation of a handsome man.

What is the name of this amazing PR form that make Blake do and say racist and transphobic things? And how did they master the art and science of time travel because Blake has been like this for almost 20 years!

This! I don't like how blake is disregarding DV being a serious topic in this movie and I don't like how she double down her nasty behavior to that reported. That had nothing to do with Justin or his PR team.

Honestly this is the only part I think is ridiculous. Have you read the book? Or ANY of the books. Colleen Hoover's entire oeuvre is basically DV adjacent soft core p*rn. I'm sure this line of criticism makes sense if you haven't read the books but this is like trashing the lifetime movie network for disregarding serious topics. I mean they DO, but it’s the source material and its baked into the premise. No one is coming for CH for writing total trash, Blake should not have to bear the weight of treating the movie exactly like its author and primary audience treat it.

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NP. I feel like I already read this comment earlier in the thread…

I wrote something similar on the last page and said it again. Don't think there's a rule against reiterating your point when someone says something in opposition to it again.

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Anonymous wrote:It's true sometimes people just turn on famous women for no real reason. That happens all the time. And it does feel like a lot of the Lively hate is just due to her being overexposed.

BUT Lively also has a history of being tone deaf and flat out unkind. And even if you don't care about the 2016 interview, I don't get how you defend the weird and very insensitive stuff she's said regarding DV in the last month or so while promoting a movie that is *about* DV-- like not a movie about other stuff with a DV component but a movie that is explicitly about DV.

I think this is more like a Lance Armstrong situation-- if a public person is enough of a jerk to enough people for long enough, eventually people stop making excuses and turn on them. It can seem abrupt but when you look back you see these breadcrumbs that go all the way back to the beginning of their career.

Listen, I have never really liked Blake Lively. But this revisionist history turning a COLLEEN HOOVER book into some material that was supposed to be about bringing awareness to DV? Please, she is the lifetime movie network of authors. Her genre is DV adjacent sm*t. No fans of CH are going into that movie expecting some deeply meaningful deep dive into DV. The main character is a florist named Lily Bloom. That is what we're working with here.

I also think its telling that the entire cast seems to be on her side. She is kind of an annoying vapid Serena Van Der Wood type, I'm not denying it. But I think that the fact that her costar has been abandoned by all the women working on the movie and has hired the same PR firm that reps Depp and Pitt and Weinstein is shady AF and makes me very much side eye this 'Blake Lively is the devil' message they have gotten into the public eye.

Blake is the one with the money and power, and if she wants to ice out the director/co-star, everyone will fall in line. It is classic bullying behavior. The director/co-star's reputation is impeccable. And a PR firm is a PR firm. You hire the best you can afford, just like defense attorneys.

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Anonymous wrote:It's true sometimes people just turn on famous women for no real reason. That happens all the time. And it does feel like a lot of the Lively hate is just due to her being overexposed.

BUT Lively also has a history of being tone deaf and flat out unkind. And even if you don't care about the 2016 interview, I don't get how you defend the weird and very insensitive stuff she's said regarding DV in the last month or so while promoting a movie that is *about* DV-- like not a movie about other stuff with a DV component but a movie that is explicitly about DV.

I think this is more like a Lance Armstrong situation-- if a public person is enough of a jerk to enough people for long enough, eventually people stop making excuses and turn on them. It can seem abrupt but when you look back you see these breadcrumbs that go all the way back to the beginning of their career.

Listen, I have never really liked Blake Lively. But this revisionist history turning a COLLEEN HOOVER book into some material that was supposed to be about bringing awareness to DV? Please, she is the lifetime movie network of authors. Her genre is DV adjacent sm*t. No fans of CH are going into that movie expecting some deeply meaningful deep dive into DV. The main character is a florist named Lily Bloom. That is what we're working with here.

I also think its telling that the entire cast seems to be on her side. She is kind of an annoying vapid Serena Van Der Wood type, I'm not denying it. But I think that the fact that her costar has been abandoned by all the women working on the movie and has hired the same PR firm that reps Depp and Pitt and Weinstein is shady AF and makes me very much side eye this 'Blake Lively is the devil' message they have gotten into the public eye.

Blake Lively is not the devil. She just sounds like someone who has been too entitled for too long and forgot humility and manners, if she ever had them. She also is a billionaire, married to a huge douchebag billionaire. Baldoni is just a working guy in Hollywood. The imbalance of power is not on his side on this, so let's not make it into what it's not because one PR firm got hired.

THE PR firm got hired. And right now he's fully winning the PR war despite literally no costars and even his own podcast partner seemingly icing him out. Just seems like a long trend of this particular PR firm. Tarring and feathering a woman who isn't particularly loved to ensure the sterling reputation of a handsome man.

What is the name of this amazing PR form that make Blake do and say racist and transphobic things? And how did they master the art and science of time travel because Blake has been like this for almost 20 years!

This! I don't like how blake is disregarding DV being a serious topic in this movie and I don't like how she double down her nasty behavior to that reported. That had nothing to do with Justin or his PR team.

Honestly this is the only part I think is ridiculous. Have you read the book? Or ANY of the books. Colleen Hoover's entire oeuvre is basically DV adjacent soft core p*rn. I'm sure this line of criticism makes sense if you haven't read the books but this is like trashing the lifetime movie network for disregarding serious topics. I mean they DO, but its the source material and its baked into the premise. No one is coming for CH for writing total trash, Blake should not have to bear the weight of treating the movie exactly like its author and primary audience treat it.

Does it matter who wrote it and how trashy it is? I don't recall Julia Roberts and JLo making the promo of Sleeping with the Enemy and Enough about pretty flower dresses and haircare lines and their dh's new movies. It's just not appropriate when a movie is about a serious topic, even if it is partly about romance as well.

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Regardless of the low quality of source material, Blake is singularly responsible for mishandling the gravity of domestic abuse/violence in interviews.

Blake can frame this character and storyline the way she wants, but people are free to shake their heads at her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone has been obsessed with her since Gossip Girl.

I think she has a weird looking face and is such a bad actress.

No idea why the media is trying to make her happen.

Sorry op but, it is just you. Are you jealous? She is by very definition successful, beautiful and wealthy.

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of the low quality of source material, Blake is singularly responsible for mishandling the gravity of domestic abuse/violence in interviews.

Blake can frame this character and storyline the way she wants, but people are free to shake their heads at her.

Of course they are. But I just feel like its worth noting that what she's doing is in line with the way the author promotes it, and that in turn is in line with the way rabid CH fans ingest her books (and her books have been INCREDIBLY popular lately). It would have been ridiculous to make this movie a very serious take on DV because that would turn off the primary audience (IE, people who liked the book). I mean I cannot stand Colleen Hoover books. I read Verity and while I did whip through it thought it was insane by the end. But I also feel like if someone tried to seriously dramatize Verity that would be...I mean I don't even know. This is a trashy romance genre that made it big. It should be held to the same standards as 50 Shades of Grey. Everyone promoted that tongue in cheek knowing it was nuts but everyone was in on the joke. CH is the same, its nuts! But its like cotton candy drama.

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Because of this thread I am going to become a super fan. I never thought about her much but, you jealously is wow...

Go Blake Go!

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Anonymous wrote:It's true sometimes people just turn on famous women for no real reason. That happens all the time. And it does feel like a lot of the Lively hate is just due to her being overexposed.

BUT Lively also has a history of being tone deaf and flat out unkind. And even if you don't care about the 2016 interview, I don't get how you defend the weird and very insensitive stuff she's said regarding DV in the last month or so while promoting a movie that is *about* DV-- like not a movie about other stuff with a DV component but a movie that is explicitly about DV.

I think this is more like a Lance Armstrong situation-- if a public person is enough of a jerk to enough people for long enough, eventually people stop making excuses and turn on them. It can seem abrupt but when you look back you see these breadcrumbs that go all the way back to the beginning of their career.

Listen, I have never really liked Blake Lively. But this revisionist history turning a COLLEEN HOOVER book into some material that was supposed to be about bringing awareness to DV? Please, she is the lifetime movie network of authors. Her genre is DV adjacent sm*t. No fans of CH are going into that movie expecting some deeply meaningful deep dive into DV. The main character is a florist named Lily Bloom. That is what we're working with here.

I also think its telling that the entire cast seems to be on her side. She is kind of an annoying vapid Serena Van Der Wood type, I'm not denying it. But I think that the fact that her costar has been abandoned by all the women working on the movie and has hired the same PR firm that reps Depp and Pitt and Weinstein is shady AF and makes me very much side eye this 'Blake Lively is the devil' message they have gotten into the public eye.

Blake Lively is not the devil. She just sounds like someone who has been too entitled for too long and forgot humility and manners, if she ever had them. She also is a billionaire, married to a huge douchebag billionaire. Baldoni is just a working guy in Hollywood. The imbalance of power is not on his side on this, so let's not make it into what it's not because one PR firm got hired.

THE PR firm got hired. And right now he's fully winning the PR war despite literally no costars and even his own podcast partner seemingly icing him out. Just seems like a long trend of this particular PR firm. Tarring and feathering a woman who isn't particularly loved to ensure the sterling reputation of a handsome man.

What is the name of this amazing PR form that make Blake do and say racist and transphobic things? And how did they master the art and science of time travel because Blake has been like this for almost 20 years!

This! I don't like how blake is disregarding DV being a serious topic in this movie and I don't like how she double down her nasty behavior to that reported. That had nothing to do with Justin or his PR team.

Honestly this is the only part I think is ridiculous. Have you read the book? Or ANY of the books. Colleen Hoover's entire oeuvre is basically DV adjacent soft core p*rn. I'm sure this line of criticism makes sense if you haven't read the books but this is like trashing the lifetime movie network for disregarding serious topics. I mean they DO, but its the source material and its baked into the premise. No one is coming for CH for writing total trash, Blake should not have to bear the weight of treating the movie exactly like its author and primary audience treat it.

Does it matter who wrote it and how trashy it is? I don't recall Julia Roberts and JLo making the promo of Sleeping with the Enemy and Enough about pretty flower dresses and haircare lines and their dh's new movies. It's just not appropriate when a movie is about a serious topic, even if it is partly about romance as well.

Neither of those books are as silly as Colleen Hoover books. Consumed literally for their s*xiness in the face of DANGER. Enough was based on a true story and is a really serious book! SWTE is also not a book that dramatizes it.

[Anonymous]

Do people not understand that a person can dislike another person for reasons that aren’t jealousy? I’m beginning to wonder if they know what “jealousy” means.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone has been obsessed with her since Gossip Girl.

I think she has a weird looking face and is such a bad actress.

No idea why the media is trying to make her happen.

Sorry op but, it is just you. Are you jealous? She is by very definition successful, beautiful and wealthy.

NP. lol. “It’s just you.” How many pages are we up to on this thread? And why is social media filled with hate for her? Think whatever you want about Blake, it’s not just one poster that can’t figure out why people tried to make Blake happen, find her less than attractive physically or personality wise.

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I saw the movie if anyone still cares. I’ve been active on all these threads and I’m firmly Team Justin and think Blake has behaved bad and is super overexposed but here is my take:

I loved the movie! And so did my teen daughter who hasn’t been paying as much attention to the drama but knows a little.

Yes there were some cheesy things I cringed over but overall it was well done. Everyone did a great job. It was well cast. Blake and Justin especially were great. Their chemistry was great. I’m annoyed I know so much about their rift actually. The success of the movie was dependent on them both more than any other cast members.

Blake annoys me but she is gorgeous. I don’t know why she insists on princess gowns at most events. She looked so pretty in more understated hair and make up and clothes.

My daughter was really puzzled while Blake has treated this movie as light froth when her performance was so good. She asked if was she afraid of outshining her husband which blew me away because she knows nothing about RR other than he’s pals with Taylor and is Deadpool. She thought she should play up her dramatic role more.

I do feel like I’m even more confused about her approach to marketing. Maybe the studio told her to because it was supposed to come out in spring but got delayed to a summer movie because of the strikes and they thought it was too dark for a summer movie? It’s baffling to me and I think it hurt the movie and her reputation.

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Anonymous wrote:I saw the movie if anyone still cares. I’ve been active on all these threads and I’m firmly Team Justin and think Blake has behaved bad and is super overexposed but here is my take:

I loved the movie! And so did my teen daughter who hasn’t been paying as much attention to the drama but knows a little.

Yes there were some cheesy things I cringed over but overall it was well done. Everyone did a great job. It was well cast. Blake and Justin especially were great. Their chemistry was great. I’m annoyed I know so much about their rift actually. The success of the movie was dependent on them both more than any other cast members.

Blake annoys me but she is gorgeous. I don’t know why she insists on princess gowns at most events. She looked so pretty in more understated hair and make up and clothes.

My daughter was really puzzled while Blake has treated this movie as light froth when her performance was so good. She asked if was she afraid of outshining her husband which blew me away because she knows nothing about RR other than he’s pals with Taylor and is Deadpool. She thought she should play up her dramatic role more.

I do feel like I’m even more confused about her approach to marketing. Maybe the studio told her to because it was supposed to come out in spring but got delayed to a summer movie because of the strikes and they thought it was too dark for a summer movie? It’s baffling to me and I think it hurt the movie and her reputation.

It appears that she and her husband have come to the conclusion that their side hustles can be far more lucrative than acting.And so acting is now being used as a vehicle for their commercial endeavors rather than their main activity. This,in theory, isn't so problematic so long as it's done under the right circumstances.To use the promotional tour of a movie about domestic violence to hawk your hair care line,liquor and lemonade brand is unforgivably crass, uncouth, insensitive and reeks of desperation.