Concerned about buying in WJ cluster because of re-zoning

[Anonymous]

Yeah no - its been shared uo thread that Langley Park is one of the lowest performing sections. Nice try though.

MCPS could leave the highest performing ES schools zoned for WJ and BCC in place and move out the lower performing schools to Woodward. For the Einstein kids, just take the highest performing ES schools and move those into Woodward. This way you could get to an 8 in Woodward and BCC/WJ would be in line to compete with Churchill for a 9 or 10. If Woodward is a strong 8 or even a 9 and it doesn't have the crime areas zoned into it, you would start to attract more families that care about education and it could get up to an 8 or 9.

Rather than lowering two high performing schools and adding a mediocre school, you've strengthened the high performing schools and positioned another to be high performing.

Einstein is already crap so lowering it more won't make a difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah no - its been shared uo thread that Langley Park is one of the lowest performing sections. Nice try though.

MCPS could leave the highest performing ES schools zoned for WJ and BCC in place and move out the lower performing schools to Woodward. For the Einstein kids, just take the highest performing ES schools and move those into Woodward. This way you could get to an 8 in Woodward and BCC/WJ would be in line to compete with Churchill for a 9 or 10. If Woodward is a strong 8 or even a 9 and it doesn't have the crime areas zoned into it, you would start to attract more families that care about education and it could get up to an 8 or 9.

Rather than lowering two high performing schools and adding a mediocre school, you've strengthened the high performing schools and positioned another to be high performing.

Einstein is already crap so lowering it more won't make a difference.

Thanks for the thoughtful post! Okay I’m kidding that is some of the most ignorant and hateful trash I’ve read on this entire thread and I can say with absolute certainty the county will do nothing of this sort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah no - its been shared uo thread that Langley Park is one of the lowest performing sections. Nice try though.

MCPS could leave the highest performing ES schools zoned for WJ and BCC in place and move out the lower performing schools to Woodward. For the Einstein kids, just take the highest performing ES schools and move those into Woodward. This way you could get to an 8 in Woodward and BCC/WJ would be in line to compete with Churchill for a 9 or 10. If Woodward is a strong 8 or even a 9 and it doesn't have the crime areas zoned into it, you would start to attract more families that care about education and it could get up to an 8 or 9.

Rather than lowering two high performing schools and adding a mediocre school, you've strengthened the high performing schools and positioned another to be high performing.

Einstein is already crap so lowering it more won't make a difference.

That sounds...crazy....

Why would they do that. They aren’t going to purposely combine the best schools into the new zones. They will base them on distance to schools. Kensington is going to Einstein. Period.

[Anonymous]

No way are they going to move the “rich” people out of Einstein to Woodward. I could see moving the silver spring portions of rock view to Woodward’s boundary.

[Anonymous]

Woodward is slated to open as early as 2022 and will have 2700 seats. This is situated between Walter Johnson, B-CC, and Einstein. At this time all 3 of those schools will be overcrowded to varying degrees, and also share boundaries with other schools that are over capacity. It seems likely the county will populate this new school from the overcapacity schools that are nearby since there is no practical alternative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No way are they going to move the “rich” people out of Einstein to Woodward. I could see moving the silver spring portions of rock view to Woodward’s boundary.

No idea about rich or poor but Einstein will be 800 over capacity at that time. Those kids got to go somewhere and Woodward is that somewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No way are they going to move the “rich” people out of Einstein to Woodward. I could see moving the silver spring portions of rock view to Woodward’s boundary.

Sounds good but there's one little problem is Einstein doesn't have the spare capacity to add more people.

[Anonymous]

Why would they do that. They aren’t going to purposely combine the best schools into the new zones. They will base them on distance to schools. Kensington is going to Einstein. Period.

This is why Montgomery County will continue its downward spiral. Read the stagnation thread and kiss your equity hopes goodbye. If MCPS were to keep the good schools in the good high school clusters and move the rest of the best schools out of the so-so area to make another top school you would increase property values in an entire new cluster without wrecking them in existing good areas. Instead everyone seems to think that MCPS will mess with the highest performing schools because they're in Bethesda and everyone in the DCC is jealous of/hates Bethesda, shoot for 3 mediocre school and Einstein remaining crappy. This serves no one and just drops property values.

Why not try to increase the number of high performing schools so that you can attract back the wealth that is leaving Montgomery County. This wealth is what funds the schools. If you keep pissing on it, its going to leave and then where will you be?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Why would they do that. They aren’t going to purposely combine the best schools into the new zones. They will base them on distance to schools. Kensington is going to Einstein. Period.

This is why Montgomery County will continue its downward spiral. Read the stagnation thread and kiss your equity hopes goodbye. If MCPS were to keep the good schools in the good high school clusters and move the rest of the best schools out of the so-so area to make another top school you would increase property values in an entire new cluster without wrecking them in existing good areas. Instead everyone seems to think that MCPS will mess with the highest performing schools because they're in Bethesda and everyone in the DCC is jealous of/hates Bethesda, shoot for 3 mediocre school and Einstein remaining crappy. This serves no one and just drops property values.

Why not try to increase the number of high performing schools so that you can attract back the wealth that is leaving Montgomery County. This wealth is what funds the schools. If you keep pissing on it, its going to leave and then where will you be?

The problem here your definition of good is based on a faulty assumption.

[Anonymous]

The purpose of schools is not to sustain property values. Sure, they would get more tax base with wealthy schools in gerrymandered clusters, but that is not their mission. You may care how much your local school increases your home value but MCPS doesn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Why would they do that. They aren’t going to purposely combine the best schools into the new zones. They will base them on distance to schools. Kensington is going to Einstein. Period.

This is why Montgomery County will continue its downward spiral. Read the stagnation thread and kiss your equity hopes goodbye. If MCPS were to keep the good schools in the good high school clusters and move the rest of the best schools out of the so-so area to make another top school you would increase property values in an entire new cluster without wrecking them in existing good areas. Instead everyone seems to think that MCPS will mess with the highest performing schools because they're in Bethesda and everyone in the DCC is jealous of/hates Bethesda, shoot for 3 mediocre school and Einstein remaining crappy. This serves no one and just drops property values.

Why not try to increase the number of high performing schools so that you can attract back the wealth that is leaving Montgomery County. This wealth is what funds the schools. If you keep pissing on it, its going to leave and then where will you be?

Schools are funded by property taxes and the county is building taxable properties at an unprecedented rate.

Further, calling a school good simply because it excludes lower income people from dragging down the average number of kids that pass the state's minimal benchmark hardly makes it a good school.

[Anonymous]

Christ on a cracker - no one cares whether YOU think a school isn't good because it ranks high on test performance, SATs, college readiness scoring, and college admissions. What matters is that buyers with wealth DO care and you want as many top ranked clusters as you can get. A 10 school has a positive effect on nearby areas as long as there aren't large sections of poor performers.

Montgomery County can't survive being a residential only county with mediocre schools. If it isn't going to court businesses then it needs to trying to undo the past decades of school decline and avoid lowering any of the few high performing schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The purpose of schools is not to sustain property values. Sure, they would get more tax base with wealthy schools in gerrymandered clusters, but that is not their mission. You may care how much your local school increases your home value but MCPS doesn't.

amen!

[Anonymous]

You're cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you drive the wealthy and educated away then you won't have enough money for your utopian schools. You won't be able to sustain your dream of mediocrity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you drive the wealthy and educated away then you won't have enough money for your utopian schools. You won't be able to sustain your dream of mediocrity.

Just move already