Concerned about buying in WJ cluster because of re-zoning

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You're cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you drive the wealthy and educated away then you won't have enough money for your utopian schools. You won't be able to sustain your dream of mediocrity.

Just move already

Well, is this poster actually wrong?

This area has three jurisdictions in very close proximity, making moves easier since it may not be necessary to change jobs, friends, etc. Right now, I pay a relatively small premium to be in Moco, but I at least arguably have better schools and services.

If that premium increases and/or the schools etc slip, why should I stay? This is especially true as schools and services in D.C. seem to be improving.

From where I live in West Bethesda, I can be in VA or D.C., in less than ten minutes. At some point, if Moco falls behind, I will just move a short distance south or west and another jurisdiction can get the benefit of my tax contributions.

I like Moco - there is a reason I chose it when I could afford any of the local areas - but there is a point at which it won't be worth staying.

[Anonymous]

Addressing overcrowding in an intelligent manner doesn't equate to slipping schools.

The poster is wrong. They fail to grasp the value of quality public education which benefits not just a few but everyone.

[Anonymous]

You're arguing that school quality as defined by a metric that is a well-documented proxy for race is how boundaries should be defined because it benefits your property value. That's segregation and isn't ever going to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Christ on a cracker - no one cares whether YOU think a school isn't good because it ranks high on test performance, SATs, college readiness scoring, and college admissions. What matters is that buyers with wealth DO care and you want as many top ranked clusters as you can get. A 10 school has a positive effect on nearby areas as long as there aren't large sections of poor performers.

Montgomery County can't survive being a residential only county with mediocre schools. If it isn't going to court businesses then it needs to trying to undo the past decades of school decline and avoid lowering any of the few high performing schools.

With the correlation between school performance and student SES, they should simply create a minimum HHI requirement for each school to bolster nearby property values. This would create many top-ranked clusters and bus those who aren't welcome to the "forbidden zone" schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you drive the wealthy and educated away then you won't have enough money for your utopian schools. You won't be able to sustain your dream of mediocrity.

MCPS has one job, and it's to educate the children who live in the county. It's not to maximize tax income, GreatSchools ratings, or home values. If every single child in the county was a poor immigrant, MCPS would educate them and would be fulfilling their mission. If every single child in the county was a wealthy white child of two lawyers, MCPS would educate them and would be fulfilling their mission. They literally don't care about maximizing wealth or reputation, nor should they.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You're cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you drive the wealthy and educated away then you won't have enough money for your utopian schools. You won't be able to sustain your dream of mediocrity.

MCPS has one job, and it's to educate the children who live in the county. It's not to maximize tax income, GreatSchools ratings, or home values. If every single child in the county was a poor immigrant, MCPS would educate them and would be fulfilling their mission. If every single child in the county was a wealthy white child of two lawyers, MCPS would educate them and would be fulfilling their mission. They literally don't care about maximizing wealth or reputation, nor should they.

Agree here. People are way off the mark if they think MCPS will care about ratings of Woodward or WJ when drawing boundaries. 1600-1800 DCC students will join Woodward and WJ in any possible scenario. Test scores and ratings of schools will go down, but MCPS is not going to focus on that. Their job is to provide education to anyone present in MCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you drive the wealthy and educated away then you won't have enough money for your utopian schools. You won't be able to sustain your dream of mediocrity.

MCPS has one job, and it's to educate the children who live in the county. It's not to maximize tax income, GreatSchools ratings, or home values. If every single child in the county was a poor immigrant, MCPS would educate them and would be fulfilling their mission. If every single child in the county was a wealthy white child of two lawyers, MCPS would educate them and would be fulfilling their mission. They literally don't care about maximizing wealth or reputation, nor should they.

Agree here. People are way off the mark if they think MCPS will care about ratings of Woodward or WJ when drawing boundaries. 1600-1800 DCC students will join Woodward and WJ in any possible scenario. Test scores and ratings of schools will go down, but MCPS is not going to focus on that. Their job is to provide education to anyone present in MCPS.

Woodward will likely draw up to 1k students from WJ and another 800 from Einstein. Also likely another 400 for a magnet program. That leaves 500 seats tops. Given its proximity to BCC which will also be overcapacity again by 2022 seems likely they’ll get those remaining seats.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you drive the wealthy and educated away then you won't have enough money for your utopian schools. You won't be able to sustain your dream of mediocrity.

MCPS has one job, and it's to educate the children who live in the county. It's not to maximize tax income, GreatSchools ratings, or home values. If every single child in the county was a poor immigrant, MCPS would educate them and would be fulfilling their mission. If every single child in the county was a wealthy white child of two lawyers, MCPS would educate them and would be fulfilling their mission. They literally don't care about maximizing wealth or reputation, nor should they.

Agree here. People are way off the mark if they think MCPS will care about ratings of Woodward or WJ when drawing boundaries. 1600-1800 DCC students will join Woodward and WJ in any possible scenario. Test scores and ratings of schools will go down, but MCPS is not going to focus on that. Their job is to provide education to anyone present in MCPS.

Woodward will likely draw up to 1k students from WJ and another 800 from Einstein. Also likely another 400 for a magnet program. That leaves 500 seats tops. Given its proximity to BCC which will also be overcapacity again by 2022 seems likely they’ll get those remaining seats.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. Besides WJ, the most likely transfers to Woodward are from Wheaton, not Einstein. There are a bunch of neighborhoods that used to go to Woodward that now go to Wheaton, like Randolph Hills and Viers Mill Village.

[Anonymous]

DCC will contribute bulk of 1800 empty seats in Woodward.

BCC sending 400 or Magnet with 400 has slim chance. I am saying this based on MCPS priority and what they have openly stated so far.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you drive the wealthy and educated away then you won't have enough money for your utopian schools. You won't be able to sustain your dream of mediocrity.

MCPS has one job, and it's to educate the children who live in the county. It's not to maximize tax income, GreatSchools ratings, or home values. If every single child in the county was a poor immigrant, MCPS would educate them and would be fulfilling their mission. If every single child in the county was a wealthy white child of two lawyers, MCPS would educate them and would be fulfilling their mission. They literally don't care about maximizing wealth or reputation, nor should they.

Agree here. People are way off the mark if they think MCPS will care about ratings of Woodward or WJ when drawing boundaries. 1600-1800 DCC students will join Woodward and WJ in any possible scenario. Test scores and ratings of schools will go down, but MCPS is not going to focus on that. Their job is to provide education to anyone present in MCPS.

Woodward will likely draw up to 1k students from WJ and another 800 from Einstein. Also likely another 400 for a magnet program. That leaves 500 seats tops. Given its proximity to BCC which will also be overcapacity again by 2022 seems likely they’ll get those remaining seats.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. Besides WJ, the most likely transfers to Woodward are from Wheaton, not Einstein. There are a bunch of neighborhoods that used to go to Woodward that now go to Wheaton, like Randolph Hills and Viers Mill Village.

Old original boundaries are not going to be the starting point. Too many things have changed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you drive the wealthy and educated away then you won't have enough money for your utopian schools. You won't be able to sustain your dream of mediocrity.

MCPS has one job, and it's to educate the children who live in the county. It's not to maximize tax income, GreatSchools ratings, or home values. If every single child in the county was a poor immigrant, MCPS would educate them and would be fulfilling their mission. If every single child in the county was a wealthy white child of two lawyers, MCPS would educate them and would be fulfilling their mission. They literally don't care about maximizing wealth or reputation, nor should they.

Agree here. People are way off the mark if they think MCPS will care about ratings of Woodward or WJ when drawing boundaries. 1600-1800 DCC students will join Woodward and WJ in any possible scenario. Test scores and ratings of schools will go down, but MCPS is not going to focus on that. Their job is to provide education to anyone present in MCPS.

Woodward will likely draw up to 1k students from WJ and another 800 from Einstein. Also likely another 400 for a magnet program. That leaves 500 seats tops. Given its proximity to BCC which will also be overcapacity again by 2022 seems likely they’ll get those remaining seats.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. Besides WJ, the most likely transfers to Woodward are from Wheaton, not Einstein. There are a bunch of neighborhoods that used to go to Woodward that now go to Wheaton, like Randolph Hills and Viers Mill Village.

Old original boundaries are not going to be the starting point. Too many things have changed.

Also, Wheaton is the only DCC high school projected to be under capacity. Still, I can see Viers Mill and Sargent Shriver ES being rezoned for Woodward since they are relatively close.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you drive the wealthy and educated away then you won't have enough money for your utopian schools. You won't be able to sustain your dream of mediocrity.

MCPS has one job, and it's to educate the children who live in the county. It's not to maximize tax income, GreatSchools ratings, or home values. If every single child in the county was a poor immigrant, MCPS would educate them and would be fulfilling their mission. If every single child in the county was a wealthy white child of two lawyers, MCPS would educate them and would be fulfilling their mission. They literally don't care about maximizing wealth or reputation, nor should they.

Agree here. People are way off the mark if they think MCPS will care about ratings of Woodward or WJ when drawing boundaries. 1600-1800 DCC students will join Woodward and WJ in any possible scenario. Test scores and ratings of schools will go down, but MCPS is not going to focus on that. Their job is to provide education to anyone present in MCPS.

Woodward will likely draw up to 1k students from WJ and another 800 from Einstein. Also likely another 400 for a magnet program. That leaves 500 seats tops. Given its proximity to BCC which will also be overcapacity again by 2022 seems likely they’ll get those remaining seats.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. Besides WJ, the most likely transfers to Woodward are from Wheaton, not Einstein. There are a bunch of neighborhoods that used to go to Woodward that now go to Wheaton, like Randolph Hills and Viers Mill Village.

Is proximity not going to be the starting point?

Old original boundaries are not going to be the starting point. Too many things have changed.

Is proximity also not going to be the starting point?

[Anonymous]

I’m not reading through 21 pages. When is this decision going to be made?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not reading through 21 pages. When is this decision going to be made?

The earliest Woodward could reopen is September 2022. Boundary studies would be conducted 18 months before opening.

[Anonymous]

So that’s like April 2020?