Whitman HS Suicide

Anonymous
I just saw a FB status stating there were 3 suicides this week. I knew of this one b/c of this thread, but where were the other 2?
Anonymous
There are some personal posts on this thread. Just FYI, you can go to Website Feedback and ask for your post to be removed or click on the report button and ask for it to be removed. I'm just a parent reading this thread, I'm a little concerned with what might be students posting personal things.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are some personal posts on this thread. Just FYI, you can go to Website Feedback and ask for your post to be removed or click on the report button and ask for it to be removed. I'm just a parent reading this thread, I'm a little concerned with what might be students posting personal things.

Which sort of posts are you concerned about?
I suspect that the truth isn't comfortable for you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a crisis in teenage mental health that has reached epidemic proportions. So many girls, especially, trying to show how popular they are do not realize the impact on others.


It is a ridiculous and absurd notion that outgoing popular girls cause other people’s suicides. Stupidest and most irresponsible statement I’ve ever heard.


Says the mother of one of those girls. Their damage stays with an impressionable teen long after me popularity has left. You have no idea what you're defending.


+1000
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the stress at Wilson the same?


No, not really.


Actually among the AP and Honors students, yes it is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are some personal posts on this thread. Just FYI, you can go to Website Feedback and ask for your post to be removed or click on the report button and ask for it to be removed. I'm just a parent reading this thread, I'm a little concerned with what might be students posting personal things.

Which sort of posts are you concerned about?
I suspect that the truth isn't comfortable for you.

Crickets.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s mental illness people, it’s not other people’s fault typically.
Stop harping about things you know nothing about.




+1

And mental illness originates where?
Nature vs Nurture
Sure, the inherented genes matter, but so does your early environment. Every child needs a primary caregiver who is stable, competent and loving.

Many little children aren't getting that anymore.


Anyone?

Babies aren't born with "chemical imbalances" unless there was drug use in utero.

However, lack of stability, competence and love from the primary caregiver during the first three years of life can easily have devastating life-long consequences. That issue might be a hidden cultural epidemic, hence "The Hell of American Daycare".

But make no mistake. While early care at home is more likely to be stable, it doesn't guarantee anything if the care isn't competent and loving. Giving-in to your child's demands is NOT competent care. Children require consistency and help with learning healthy habits on a daily basis with loving and peaceful care. The craziness of the over-loaded lifestyle does not lay a solid foundation for healthy development.

The consequences of neglecting our children can indeed be devastating.


This is dangerously naive. There are siblings in the same family (with the same parents and early care in the home) who differ in their serotonin levels or the incidence of depression. You can have chemical imbalances in your brain even if your mom wasn't drinking while you were in utero. Where do we get these ideas?

Depression has a physical component -- the type of chemicals in and structure of the brain. They don't see the world as everyone else does. It isn't their mom or dad's fault.


Ignore that poster (often called "the Hell of American daycare" poster). She's insane.


"The Hell of American Daycare" was a very well researched article that came out in "The Atlantic", for anyone who may be interested in seeing it for themselves.

How children are cared for during their first three foundational years has lifelong benefits/consequences. This fact must be considered as we discuss the many factors in the development of teen depression.
Anonymous
MCPS Parent here: Let's take some action now before another death happens in our community. Who's with me?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:MCPS Parent here: Let's take some action now before another death happens in our community. Who's with me?


What action do you want to take? Can you be specific?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCPS Parent here: Let's take some action now before another death happens in our community. Who's with me?


What action do you want to take? Can you be specific?





We need to get involved more. That kid actually has a really good point with his petition. He is doing more than his fair share of work for our community and I am so grateful that my kids live in a community with such selfless people who want to help out. It is not cynical at all, he has nothing to gain from this. He is trying to help others. If we contact the government about this stuff than maybe we can make a change like that viral petition is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCPS Parent here: Let's take some action now before another death happens in our community. Who's with me?


What action do you want to take? Can you be specific?





We need to get involved more. That kid actually has a really good point with his petition. He is doing more than his fair share of work for our community and I am so grateful that my kids live in a community with such selfless people who want to help out. It is not cynical at all, he has nothing to gain from this. He is trying to help others. If we contact the government about this stuff than maybe we can make a change like that viral petition is.


Hello Petition-Writer's Mom.
Specifically what needs to be done to prevent suicide in the W schools? You are unable to tell what action the PARENTS and MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS and SCHOOLS and COUNTY and STATE and FEDERAL GOVT need to do to prevent suicide in W schools?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s mental illness people, it’s not other people’s fault typically.
Stop harping about things you know nothing about.




+1

And mental illness originates where?
Nature vs Nurture
Sure, the inherented genes matter, but so does your early environment. Every child needs a primary caregiver who is stable, competent and loving.

Many little children aren't getting that anymore.


Anyone?

Babies aren't born with "chemical imbalances" unless there was drug use in utero.

However, lack of stability, competence and love from the primary caregiver during the first three years of life can easily have devastating life-long consequences. That issue might be a hidden cultural epidemic, hence "The Hell of American Daycare".

But make no mistake. While early care at home is more likely to be stable, it doesn't guarantee anything if the care isn't competent and loving. Giving-in to your child's demands is NOT competent care. Children require consistency and help with learning healthy habits on a daily basis with loving and peaceful care. The craziness of the over-loaded lifestyle does not lay a solid foundation for healthy development.

The consequences of neglecting our children can indeed be devastating.


This is dangerously naive. There are siblings in the same family (with the same parents and early care in the home) who differ in their serotonin levels or the incidence of depression. You can have chemical imbalances in your brain even if your mom wasn't drinking while you were in utero. Where do we get these ideas?

Depression has a physical component -- the type of chemicals in and structure of the brain. They don't see the world as everyone else does. It isn't their mom or dad's fault.


Ignore that poster (often called "the Hell of American daycare" poster). She's insane.


"The Hell of American Daycare" was a very well researched article that came out in "The Atlantic", for anyone who may be interested in seeing it for themselves.

How children are cared for during their first three foundational years has lifelong benefits/consequences. This fact must be considered as we discuss the many factors in the development of teen depression.


Also, there is a theory that drinking enough water (adequate hydration) can prevent negative thoughts. It must be very effective because all humans drink water and most do not commit suicide and water is essential for life. Can we lobby about making sure that good quality water is more easily accessible in MCPS schools?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s mental illness people, it’s not other people’s fault typically.
Stop harping about things you know nothing about.




+1

And mental illness originates where?
Nature vs Nurture
Sure, the inherented genes matter, but so does your early environment. Every child needs a primary caregiver who is stable, competent and loving.

Many little children aren't getting that anymore.


Anyone?

Babies aren't born with "chemical imbalances" unless there was drug use in utero.

However, lack of stability, competence and love from the primary caregiver during the first three years of life can easily have devastating life-long consequences. That issue might be a hidden cultural epidemic, hence "The Hell of American Daycare".

But make no mistake. While early care at home is more likely to be stable, it doesn't guarantee anything if the care isn't competent and loving. Giving-in to your child's demands is NOT competent care. Children require consistency and help with learning healthy habits on a daily basis with loving and peaceful care. The craziness of the over-loaded lifestyle does not lay a solid foundation for healthy development.

The consequences of neglecting our children can indeed be devastating.


This is dangerously naive. There are siblings in the same family (with the same parents and early care in the home) who differ in their serotonin levels or the incidence of depression. You can have chemical imbalances in your brain even if your mom wasn't drinking while you were in utero. Where do we get these ideas?

Depression has a physical component -- the type of chemicals in and structure of the brain. They don't see the world as everyone else does. It isn't their mom or dad's fault.


Ignore that poster (often called "the Hell of American daycare" poster). She's insane.


"The Hell of American Daycare" was a very well researched article that came out in "The Atlantic", for anyone who may be interested in seeing it for themselves.

How children are cared for during their first three foundational years has lifelong benefits/consequences. This fact must be considered as we discuss the many factors in the development of teen depression.


You are bats**t crazy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are some personal posts on this thread. Just FYI, you can go to Website Feedback and ask for your post to be removed or click on the report button and ask for it to be removed. I'm just a parent reading this thread, I'm a little concerned with what might be students posting personal things.

Which sort of posts are you concerned about?
I suspect that the truth isn't comfortable for you.

Crickets.


I agree that there may be teens on here revealing details about themselves--consider asking that it be deleted. Some things might make you identifiable and that might not be your intent--just a precaution.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Feasible scenario (could be far from it, or on target, yet), regardless, here it goes:

Privileged kids, (not their fault), living in an insular environment, where there is no real hunger, war, safety issues, et al.

On one hand, a blessing, on the other hand, a curse?

While others worry about where they will get their next meal, some worry about how they stack up against the other girls, who has the cuter accessory, instagram photo, boyfriend, or - whatever.

Were there competitive, mean, teen girls taunting this poor soul, that she committed suicide? Hopefully the parents of those girls did not raise them that way. Did they put their foot down, or spoil them? Or are those parents themselves, spoiled, living in an insular environment, which cushy jobs, not worried about life, because it's so comfortable. And herein lies the rub. We take things for granted, we forget about values, about how to raise children, values that have stood for generations.

As long as noone goes hungry, people get comfortable, the problems become superficial. We start bickering about stupid stuff. We become so superficial, that maybe, just maybe, as we have heard in other cased, whether bullied or not, something superficial cause this poor soul to take her own life. A life that may just not have been steeped in reality.

God bless.


Shut up! SHUT UP! You don't know anything about this family or this girl. To speculate or insinuate that her family somehow failed her is cruel, untrue and exposes the exact nature of your soul. This is not about YOU and how you feel about how society is raising children. Start a new thread where YOU solve all the world's problems but leave THIS child and this family out of it.
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