APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?

[Anonymous]

I totally understand that Some people bought for walk zones.

No one bought to be in a school majority poor. You think you are getting a raw deal because Larlo might be on the bus?South side is concerned gang activity might start up.

Not really equal concerns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty much anyone arguing for strictly geography to be considered. Also, it's mostly classism. So there's that.

Bullshit. The is efficiency, contiguity and alignment which most people would probably list if not even looking at any sort of demographic numbers. My spouse looked at the demographics that were available outside of just the free lunch data and the fact of the matter is that most if the poorer neighborhoods are clustered in the south do it is really difficult to achieve balance among all 3 schools. As others have noted in prior postings above the county is largely to blame for approving all of the affirdable units in the south with no requirement to factor in how this impacts the current school system.

Wait. Hold on just a minute there! Are you telling me that the south side of Arlington has a lot of poor people?!?! Gosh, thank goodness your spouse checked into this. You guys have just blown my mind!
Well, since it is the way the county planned it, we should just stick with efficiency, contiguity, and alignment. The county screwed the pooch, so oh well!
Yes, only walkability should be considered. Oh, that puts Wakefield at 63% poverty? Huh.

Whatever. He was just trying to see how much more data there was on actual populations not just free lunch, asshole to see how to divvy up the zones to distribute across 3 high schoold without major disruption everyone. All I am saying about the others people's posts implying thst demographics is the number one factor, I disagree. Most t rational people would want to be close to their school and with other students they grew up with and not have the county pay for more buses. The peopke at aps stated at the 10/12 meeting that demographics was not a primary factor but 1 of 6.

I'm so glad you and your husband are taking the geography into account. So I can count on your support to redraw Yorktown's boundaries to include much of the West Pike?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty much anyone arguing for strictly geography to be considered. Also, it's mostly classism. So there's that.

Bullshit. The is efficiency, contiguity and alignment which most people would probably list if not even looking at any sort of demographic numbers. My spouse looked at the demographics that were available outside of just the free lunch data and the fact of the matter is that most if the poorer neighborhoods are clustered in the south do it is really difficult to achieve balance among all 3 schools. As others have noted in prior postings above the county is largely to blame for approving all of the affirdable units in the south with no requirement to factor in how this impacts the current school system.

BS. I chose W-L after having gone to a similarity diverse (but good academically) HS filled with kids of different races and SES backgrounds. I bought a house before my kids started Kindergartem zoned specifically for W-L, as well as another diverse N Arlington elementary school.

My kids walk to elementary and we planned to have them walk to WL in coming years. We are 0.97 miles through neighborhoods to W-L, but our planning unit (a chunk out of the middle of a cohesive neighborhood) is under consideration for a move to Yorktown. The distance ranges from 1.0-1.6 miles.

If I were racist, I'd be ecstatic instead of upset.

We are in the same boat as you. Don't want to possibly move to yorktown. But the more honest quwstion us how would you feel about moving to wakefield. Also you also showed support that you want contiguity, efficiency and alignment.

I want to maintain my walkability to HS. Wakefield is an even longer bus ride. Much longer.

I didn't pay $1 million+ for Wakefield. For the County to take walkers and instead add 45 min to and from their homes in the morning (waiting for bus; bus stops, etc) is a County that is not thinking properly--especially when they made such a big deal about more sleep for HS students. It's untenable to use my children to support their social objective and increase the amount of bussing when they claim to want AC as car-free as possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty much anyone arguing for strictly geography to be considered. Also, it's mostly classism. So there's that.

Bullshit. The is efficiency, contiguity and alignment which most people would probably list if not even looking at any sort of demographic numbers. My spouse looked at the demographics that were available outside of just the free lunch data and the fact of the matter is that most if the poorer neighborhoods are clustered in the south do it is really difficult to achieve balance among all 3 schools. As others have noted in prior postings above the county is largely to blame for approving all of the affirdable units in the south with no requirement to factor in how this impacts the current school system.

BS. I chose W-L after having gone to a similarity diverse (but good academically) HS filled with kids of different races and SES backgrounds. I bought a house before my kids started Kindergartem zoned specifically for W-L, as well as another diverse N Arlington elementary school.

My kids walk to elementary and we planned to have them walk to WL in coming years. We are 0.97 miles through neighborhoods to W-L, but our planning unit (a chunk out of the middle of a cohesive neighborhood) is under consideration for a move to Yorktown. The distance ranges from 1.0-1.6 miles.

If I were racist, I'd be ecstatic instead of upset.

We are in the same boat as you. Don't want to possibly move to yorktown. But the more honest quwstion us how would you feel about moving to wakefield. Also you also showed support that you want contiguity, efficiency and alignment.

I want to maintain my walkability to HS. Wakefield is an even longer bus ride. Much longer.

I didn't pay $1 million+ for Wakefield. For the County to take walkers and instead add 45 min to and from their homes in the morning (waiting for bus; bus stops, etc) is a County that is not thinking properly--especially when they made such a big deal about more sleep for HS students. It's untenable to use my children to support their social objective and increase the amount of bussing when they claim to want AC as car-free as possible.

I have to add that when buying a home 1.0 mile from a HS--in no conceivable fashion would I ever imagine being bussed to one much farther away.

The kids across the street on both sides will continue to walk to WL while mine will get up 30 min earlier to sit on a bus. Btw--bus is not something g most HS students will tolerate after Freshman year--cue more HS drivers when they can no longer walk or bike.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty much anyone arguing for strictly geography to be considered. Also, it's mostly classism. So there's that.

Bullshit. The is efficiency, contiguity and alignment which most people would probably list if not even looking at any sort of demographic numbers. My spouse looked at the demographics that were available outside of just the free lunch data and the fact of the matter is that most if the poorer neighborhoods are clustered in the south do it is really difficult to achieve balance among all 3 schools. As others have noted in prior postings above the county is largely to blame for approving all of the affirdable units in the south with no requirement to factor in how this impacts the current school system.

Wait. Hold on just a minute there! Are you telling me that the south side of Arlington has a lot of poor people?!?! Gosh, thank goodness your spouse checked into this. You guys have just blown my mind!
Well, since it is the way the county planned it, we should just stick with efficiency, contiguity, and alignment. The county screwed the pooch, so oh well!
Yes, only walkability should be considered. Oh, that puts Wakefield at 63% poverty? Huh.

Whatever. He was just trying to see how much more data there was on actual populations not just free lunch, asshole to see how to divvy up the zones to distribute across 3 high schoold without major disruption everyone. All I am saying about the others people's posts implying thst demographics is the number one factor, I disagree. Most t rational people would want to be close to their school and with other students they grew up with and not have the county pay for more buses. The peopke at aps stated at the 10/12 meeting that demographics was not a primary factor but 1 of 6.

I'm so glad you and your husband are taking the geography into account. So I can count on your support to redraw Yorktown's boundaries to include much of the West Pike?

Can yoy provide explicit pLanning units so we can look at whether the enrollment would balance? Don't know what is meant by west pike?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I totally understand that Some people bought for walk zones.

No one bought to be in a school majority poor. You think you are getting a raw deal because Larlo might be on the bus?South side is concerned gang activity might start up.

Not really equal concerns.

Putting those gangs in our schools is a concern.

Take your bleeding heart social agenda elsewhere.

I grew up in a school like that and made sure my kids would t have to get chased like I did on "Cracker Day"...which was beat up the white kids on Fridays.

If somebody is a walker they should not be bussed.

The County claims that won't happen. We'll see.

If the poor kids are willing to sit on the bus to come over here. Great. It's the sacrifices families make when they want to improve their social standing.

Bussing white kids into ghettos solves zero purpose except some liberal agenda. Get real, Louise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty much anyone arguing for strictly geography to be considered. Also, it's mostly classism. So there's that.

Bullshit. The is efficiency, contiguity and alignment which most people would probably list if not even looking at any sort of demographic numbers. My spouse looked at the demographics that were available outside of just the free lunch data and the fact of the matter is that most if the poorer neighborhoods are clustered in the south do it is really difficult to achieve balance among all 3 schools. As others have noted in prior postings above the county is largely to blame for approving all of the affirdable units in the south with no requirement to factor in how this impacts the current school system.

BS. I chose W-L after having gone to a similarity diverse (but good academically) HS filled with kids of different races and SES backgrounds. I bought a house before my kids started Kindergartem zoned specifically for W-L, as well as another diverse N Arlington elementary school.

My kids walk to elementary and we planned to have them walk to WL in coming years. We are 0.97 miles through neighborhoods to W-L, but our planning unit (a chunk out of the middle of a cohesive neighborhood) is under consideration for a move to Yorktown. The distance ranges from 1.0-1.6 miles.

If I were racist, I'd be ecstatic instead of upset.

We are in the same boat as you. Don't want to possibly move to yorktown. But the more honest quwstion us how would you feel about moving to wakefield. Also you also showed support that you want contiguity, efficiency and alignment.

I want to maintain my walkability to HS. Wakefield is an even longer bus ride. Much longer.

I didn't pay $1 million+ for Wakefield. For the County to take walkers and instead add 45 min to and from their homes in the morning (waiting for bus; bus stops, etc) is a County that is not thinking properly--especially when they made such a big deal about more sleep for HS students. It's untenable to use my children to support their social objective and increase the amount of bussing when they claim to want AC as car-free as possible.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty much anyone arguing for strictly geography to be considered. Also, it's mostly classism. So there's that.

Bullshit. The is efficiency, contiguity and alignment which most people would probably list if not even looking at any sort of demographic numbers. My spouse looked at the demographics that were available outside of just the free lunch data and the fact of the matter is that most if the poorer neighborhoods are clustered in the south do it is really difficult to achieve balance among all 3 schools. As others have noted in prior postings above the county is largely to blame for approving all of the affirdable units in the south with no requirement to factor in how this impacts the current school system.

BS. I chose W-L after having gone to a similarity diverse (but good academically) HS filled with kids of different races and SES backgrounds. I bought a house before my kids started Kindergartem zoned specifically for W-L, as well as another diverse N Arlington elementary school.

My kids walk to elementary and we planned to have them walk to WL in coming years. We are 0.97 miles through neighborhoods to W-L, but our planning unit (a chunk out of the middle of a cohesive neighborhood) is under consideration for a move to Yorktown. The distance ranges from 1.0-1.6 miles.

If I were racist, I'd be ecstatic instead of upset.

We are in the same boat as you. Don't want to possibly move to yorktown. But the more honest quwstion us how would you feel about moving to wakefield. Also you also showed support that you want contiguity, efficiency and alignment.

I want to maintain my walkability to HS. Wakefield is an even longer bus ride. Much longer.

I didn't pay $1 million+ for Wakefield. For the County to take walkers and instead add 45 min to and from their homes in the morning (waiting for bus; bus stops, etc) is a County that is not thinking properly--especially when they made such a big deal about more sleep for HS students. It's untenable to use my children to support their social objective and increase the amount of bussing when they claim to want AC as car-free as possible.

I have to add that when buying a home 1.0 mile from a HS--in no conceivable fashion would I ever imagine being bussed to one much farther away.

The kids across the street on both sides will continue to walk to WL while mine will get up 30 min earlier to sit on a bus. Btw--bus is not something g most HS students will tolerate after Freshman year--cue more HS drivers when they can no longer walk or bike.

I have little kids (preschool). I never looked at boundary initiative until a neighbor told me about it. We can walk to the HS. No way did I thinknit would be a remote possibility to be bussed well past it. So much for green initiative

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally understand that Some people bought for walk zones.

No one bought to be in a school majority poor. You think you are getting a raw deal because Larlo might be on the bus?South side is concerned gang activity might start up.

Not really equal concerns.

Putting those gangs in our schools is a concern.

Take your bleeding heart social agenda elsewhere.

I grew up in a school like that and made sure my kids would t have to get chased like I did on "Cracker Day"...which was beat up the white kids on Fridays.

If somebody is a walker they should not be bussed.

The County claims that won't happen. We'll see.

If the poor kids are willing to sit on the bus to come over here. Great. It's the sacrifices families make when they want to improve their social standing.

Bussing white kids into ghettos solves zero purpose except some liberal agenda. Get real, Louise.

No one is talking about that dimwit. Catch up.

[Anonymous]

^^yes. What is being talked about is taking walkers and having them wake up 30 minute earlier to catch a 40-min bus ride (accounting for drop off and pick ups).

Real brainy idea there. Especially when kids across the street will remain walkers.

#family/neighborhoodorientedgreencountyinitiativeS.

And I saw County Board members that have denied more schools are currently asking for a pay raise. You can't make this stuff up...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^yes. What is being talked about is taking walkers and having them wake up 30 minute earlier to catch a 40-min bus ride (accounting for drop off and pick ups).

Real brainy idea there. Especially when kids across the street will remain walkers.

#family/neighborhoodorientedgreencountyinitiativeS.

And I saw County Board members that have denied more schools are currently asking for a pay raise. You can't make this stuff up...

Are there some in that planning unit supporting this?? How did this get on the table in the first place?? It cuts a just small# of kids right out of the center of a neighborhood. It smells fishy to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^yes. What is being talked about is taking walkers and having them wake up 30 minute earlier to catch a 40-min bus ride (accounting for drop off and pick ups).

Real brainy idea there. Especially when kids across the street will remain walkers.

#family/neighborhoodorientedgreencountyinitiativeS.

And I saw County Board members that have denied more schools are currently asking for a pay raise. You can't make this stuff up...

The above is talking about shipping rich white kids to Wakefield. Not what's on the table.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^yes. What is being talked about is taking walkers and having them wake up 30 minute earlier to catch a 40-min bus ride (accounting for drop off and pick ups).

Real brainy idea there. Especially when kids across the street will remain walkers.

#family/neighborhoodorientedgreencountyinitiativeS.

And I saw County Board members that have denied more schools are currently asking for a pay raise. You can't make this stuff up...

The above is talking about shipping rich white kids to Wakefield. Not what's on the table.

Shipping rich white WALKERS on a bus that will add 40+ minutes on each side of their day to YHS is what is on the table.

Support less pollution, more HS sleep time and keeping neighborhood kids at the same HS. Less bussing of HS kids that can safely walk to and from school!'

Less buses and HS drivers on our roads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^yes. What is being talked about is taking walkers and having them wake up 30 minute earlier to catch a 40-min bus ride (accounting for drop off and pick ups).

Real brainy idea there. Especially when kids across the street will remain walkers.

#family/neighborhoodorientedgreencountyinitiativeS.

And I saw County Board members that have denied more schools are currently asking for a pay raise. You can't make this stuff up...

The above is talking about shipping rich white kids to Wakefield. Not what's on the table.

Shipping rich white WALKERS on a bus that will add 40+ minutes on each side of their day to YHS is what is on the table.

Support less pollution, more HS sleep time and keeping neighborhood kids at the same HS. Less bussing of HS kids that can safely walk to and from school!'

Less buses and HS drivers on our roads.

Fine, but do that without adding poverty to Wakefield.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^yes. What is being talked about is taking walkers and having them wake up 30 minute earlier to catch a 40-min bus ride (accounting for drop off and pick ups).

Real brainy idea there. Especially when kids across the street will remain walkers.

#family/neighborhoodorientedgreencountyinitiativeS.

And I saw County Board members that have denied more schools are currently asking for a pay raise. You can't make this stuff up...

The above is talking about shipping rich white kids to Wakefield. Not what's on the table.

Shipping rich white WALKERS on a bus that will add 40+ minutes on each side of their day to YHS is what is on the table.

Support less pollution, more HS sleep time and keeping neighborhood kids at the same HS. Less bussing of HS kids that can safely walk to and from school!'

Less buses and HS drivers on our roads.

Fine, but do that without adding poverty to Wakefield.

I'm not adding anything to Wakefield. I don't live anywhere near Wakefield.

The people at Wakefield should be angry with the County, not other homeowners/neighborhoods all the way across the County.

The Board is doing a great job at diversion tactics to draw away from the fact they've done nothing about a problem that was well-known for over 10 years plus. They waited until true crisis mode was upon them. They went and built the Taj Mahal of elementary schools and wasted countless hours in that whole debacle with public Hearings, etc. and could have used that time and $ in much better places.

Lady, you are fed up at the wrong people.

You want everyone to suffer-even people and kids that have zero to do with the situation you find yourself in. 30 trailers in my kids middle school should I be mad at you about that?