Indiana's Religious Freedom law

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

IIRC, this is sort of like what the Christian baker in Oregon described. After he refused to sell to the lesbian couple, he got a ton of orders from pro-religion / anti-gay groups nationwide, and his business was booming for six months. Then as the news articles subsided, his out-of-state business dried up. Since his local business reputation was trashed, he had to close the bakery for lack of orders. I suspect the pizza place might get the same initial support, but will face long-term problems.

I don't see how his reputation was "trashed." He is anti-gay-marriage and wouldn't provide wedding cakes to gay couples. That's not smear -- that's the truth. So, once the ruckus died down, the local market decided to vote with their feet and take their money somewhere else. Works for me.

Yea, I do not get the PP's who somehow think that these folks are somehow "entitled" to a certain amouunt of business. My religous views aside, it was dumb for a small business owner to take this sort of stand, especially in the Pacific NW. From a business perspective, he had a poor handle on his market. Further, if his views were so lauded by Christians, why didn't local Christians go out of their way to patronize him long term? That's the questions some of blaming "Libtard" rabble rousers should be asking.

They apparently are doing online business now i would never open brick and mortar these days for lots of reasons. The fund for the pizza place is now at half a mil. Clearly there are like-minded folks, and others who are simp,y sick of the bullying left

You have that backwards. It was the hateful right that started this, by bullying people and refusing them service.

Just to clarify -
This particular pizza place DID NOT refuse service to anyone.
In fact, I am unaware of any business REFUSING service to anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

IIRC, this is sort of like what the Christian baker in Oregon described. After he refused to sell to the lesbian couple, he got a ton of orders from pro-religion / anti-gay groups nationwide, and his business was booming for six months. Then as the news articles subsided, his out-of-state business dried up. Since his local business reputation was trashed, he had to close the bakery for lack of orders. I suspect the pizza place might get the same initial support, but will face long-term problems.

I don't see how his reputation was "trashed." He is anti-gay-marriage and wouldn't provide wedding cakes to gay couples. That's not smear -- that's the truth. So, once the ruckus died down, the local market decided to vote with their feet and take their money somewhere else. Works for me.

Yea, I do not get the PP's who somehow think that these folks are somehow "entitled" to a certain amouunt of business. My religous views aside, it was dumb for a small business owner to take this sort of stand, especially in the Pacific NW. From a business perspective, he had a poor handle on his market. Further, if his views were so lauded by Christians, why didn't local Christians go out of their way to patronize him long term? That's the questions some of blaming "Libtard" rabble rousers should be asking.

They apparently are doing online business now i would never open brick and mortar these days for lots of reasons. The fund for the pizza place is now at half a mil. Clearly there are like-minded folks, and others who are simp,y sick of the bullying left

This was never about religion. “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” - Galatians 5:14

This is about bigotry, no ifs, ands or buts. A TRUE Christian would have instead spent the $500,000 on pizzas to feed the homeless rather than spending it to prop up bigotry and hate.

This pizza parlor, and its supporters, 50 years ago would have been the exact same people refusing to let blacks eat at a lunch counter. The behavior is one and the same and is as inexcusable now as it was then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

IIRC, this is sort of like what the Christian baker in Oregon described. After he refused to sell to the lesbian couple, he got a ton of orders from pro-religion / anti-gay groups nationwide, and his business was booming for six months. Then as the news articles subsided, his out-of-state business dried up. Since his local business reputation was trashed, he had to close the bakery for lack of orders. I suspect the pizza place might get the same initial support, but will face long-term problems.

I don't see how his reputation was "trashed." He is anti-gay-marriage and wouldn't provide wedding cakes to gay couples. That's not smear -- that's the truth. So, once the ruckus died down, the local market decided to vote with their feet and take their money somewhere else. Works for me.

Yea, I do not get the PP's who somehow think that these folks are somehow "entitled" to a certain amouunt of business. My religous views aside, it was dumb for a small business owner to take this sort of stand, especially in the Pacific NW. From a business perspective, he had a poor handle on his market. Further, if his views were so lauded by Christians, why didn't local Christians go out of their way to patronize him long term? That's the questions some of blaming "Libtard" rabble rousers should be asking.

They apparently are doing online business now i would never open brick and mortar these days for lots of reasons. The fund for the pizza place is now at half a mil. Clearly there are like-minded folks, and others who are simp,y sick of the bullying left

You have that backwards. It was the hateful right that started this, by bullying people and refusing them service.

Just to clarify -
This particular pizza place DID NOT refuse service to anyone.
In fact, I am unaware of any business REFUSING service to anyone.

Did you hear that on FOX News? Maybe your conservative media is trying to sell you a story that they were just targeted out of the blue by nasty bullying lefties for no reason at all? Or, that they were just targeted for being Christians?

Sorry, no.

They made a direct statement that they would REFUSE to cater an event for gays, no ifs, ands or buts.

http://www.abc57.com/story/28681598/rfra-first-business-to-publicly-deny-same-sex-service

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

IIRC, this is sort of like what the Christian baker in Oregon described. After he refused to sell to the lesbian couple, he got a ton of orders from pro-religion / anti-gay groups nationwide, and his business was booming for six months. Then as the news articles subsided, his out-of-state business dried up. Since his local business reputation was trashed, he had to close the bakery for lack of orders. I suspect the pizza place might get the same initial support, but will face long-term problems.

I don't see how his reputation was "trashed." He is anti-gay-marriage and wouldn't provide wedding cakes to gay couples. That's not smear -- that's the truth. So, once the ruckus died down, the local market decided to vote with their feet and take their money somewhere else. Works for me.

Yea, I do not get the PP's who somehow think that these folks are somehow "entitled" to a certain amouunt of business. My religous views aside, it was dumb for a small business owner to take this sort of stand, especially in the Pacific NW. From a business perspective, he had a poor handle on his market. Further, if his views were so lauded by Christians, why didn't local Christians go out of their way to patronize him long term? That's the questions some of blaming "Libtard" rabble rousers should be asking.

They apparently are doing online business now i would never open brick and mortar these days for lots of reasons. The fund for the pizza place is now at half a mil. Clearly there are like-minded folks, and others who are simp,y sick of the bullying left

This was never about religion. “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” - Galatians 5:14

This is about bigotry, no ifs, ands or buts. A TRUE Christian would have instead spent the $500,000 on pizzas to feed the homeless rather than spending it to prop up bigotry and hate.

This pizza parlor, and its supporters, 50 years ago would have been the exact same people refusing to let blacks eat at a lunch counter. The behavior is one and the same and is as inexcusable now as it was then.

And, who exactly are YOU to judge?

Matthew 7:1-3: Judge not, that ye be not judged.

How do YOU know how this family will spend the money? You don’t.
And, how do YOU know what this family would have done 50 years ago? You don’t.
Seems to me that liberals are the MOST judgmental people here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

IIRC, this is sort of like what the Christian baker in Oregon described. After he refused to sell to the lesbian couple, he got a ton of orders from pro-religion / anti-gay groups nationwide, and his business was booming for six months. Then as the news articles subsided, his out-of-state business dried up. Since his local business reputation was trashed, he had to close the bakery for lack of orders. I suspect the pizza place might get the same initial support, but will face long-term problems.

I don't see how his reputation was "trashed." He is anti-gay-marriage and wouldn't provide wedding cakes to gay couples. That's not smear -- that's the truth. So, once the ruckus died down, the local market decided to vote with their feet and take their money somewhere else. Works for me.

Yea, I do not get the PP's who somehow think that these folks are somehow "entitled" to a certain amouunt of business. My religous views aside, it was dumb for a small business owner to take this sort of stand, especially in the Pacific NW. From a business perspective, he had a poor handle on his market. Further, if his views were so lauded by Christians, why didn't local Christians go out of their way to patronize him long term? That's the questions some of blaming "Libtard" rabble rousers should be asking.

They apparently are doing online business now i would never open brick and mortar these days for lots of reasons. The fund for the pizza place is now at half a mil. Clearly there are like-minded folks, and others who are simp,y sick of the bullying left

You have that backwards. It was the hateful right that started this, by bullying people and refusing them service.

Just to clarify -
This particular pizza place DID NOT refuse service to anyone.
In fact, I am unaware of any business REFUSING service to anyone.

Did you hear that on FOX News? Maybe your conservative media is trying to sell you a story that they were just targeted out of the blue by nasty bullying lefties for no reason at all? Or, that they were just targeted for being Christians?

Sorry, no.

They made a direct statement that they would REFUSE to cater an event for gays, no ifs, ands or buts.

http://www.abc57.com/story/28681598/rfra-first-business-to-publicly-deny-same-sex-service

They would refuse to cater an event. Nobody asked them to cater an event. The media pressed them with a loaded question.
I guess you missed the part that gays are WELCOME in their establishment and they would never refuse to serve gays.
They would only refuse to cater a gay wedding - that is an EVENT. They are not refusing to serve anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

IIRC, this is sort of like what the Christian baker in Oregon described. After he refused to sell to the lesbian couple, he got a ton of orders from pro-religion / anti-gay groups nationwide, and his business was booming for six months. Then as the news articles subsided, his out-of-state business dried up. Since his local business reputation was trashed, he had to close the bakery for lack of orders. I suspect the pizza place might get the same initial support, but will face long-term problems.

I don't see how his reputation was "trashed." He is anti-gay-marriage and wouldn't provide wedding cakes to gay couples. That's not smear -- that's the truth. So, once the ruckus died down, the local market decided to vote with their feet and take their money somewhere else. Works for me.

Yea, I do not get the PP's who somehow think that these folks are somehow "entitled" to a certain amouunt of business. My religous views aside, it was dumb for a small business owner to take this sort of stand, especially in the Pacific NW. From a business perspective, he had a poor handle on his market. Further, if his views were so lauded by Christians, why didn't local Christians go out of their way to patronize him long term? That's the questions some of blaming "Libtard" rabble rousers should be asking.

They apparently are doing online business now i would never open brick and mortar these days for lots of reasons. The fund for the pizza place is now at half a mil. Clearly there are like-minded folks, and others who are simp,y sick of the bullying left

This was never about religion. “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” - Galatians 5:14

This is about bigotry, no ifs, ands or buts. A TRUE Christian would have instead spent the $500,000 on pizzas to feed the homeless rather than spending it to prop up bigotry and hate.

This pizza parlor, and its supporters, 50 years ago would have been the exact same people refusing to let blacks eat at a lunch counter. The behavior is one and the same and is as inexcusable now as it was then.

And, who exactly are YOU to judge?

Matthew 7:1-3: Judge not, that ye be not judged.

How do YOU know how this family will spend the money? You don’t.
And, how do YOU know what this family would have done 50 years ago? You don’t.
Seems to me that liberals are the MOST judgmental people here.

I know because actions speak louder than words. And the actions have already happened. The leopard's spots already show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

IIRC, this is sort of like what the Christian baker in Oregon described. After he refused to sell to the lesbian couple, he got a ton of orders from pro-religion / anti-gay groups nationwide, and his business was booming for six months. Then as the news articles subsided, his out-of-state business dried up. Since his local business reputation was trashed, he had to close the bakery for lack of orders. I suspect the pizza place might get the same initial support, but will face long-term problems.

I don't see how his reputation was "trashed." He is anti-gay-marriage and wouldn't provide wedding cakes to gay couples. That's not smear -- that's the truth. So, once the ruckus died down, the local market decided to vote with their feet and take their money somewhere else. Works for me.

Yea, I do not get the PP's who somehow think that these folks are somehow "entitled" to a certain amouunt of business. My religous views aside, it was dumb for a small business owner to take this sort of stand, especially in the Pacific NW. From a business perspective, he had a poor handle on his market. Further, if his views were so lauded by Christians, why didn't local Christians go out of their way to patronize him long term? That's the questions some of blaming "Libtard" rabble rousers should be asking.

They apparently are doing online business now i would never open brick and mortar these days for lots of reasons. The fund for the pizza place is now at half a mil. Clearly there are like-minded folks, and others who are simp,y sick of the bullying left

You have that backwards. It was the hateful right that started this, by bullying people and refusing them service.

Just to clarify -
This particular pizza place DID NOT refuse service to anyone.
In fact, I am unaware of any business REFUSING service to anyone.

Did you hear that on FOX News? Maybe your conservative media is trying to sell you a story that they were just targeted out of the blue by nasty bullying lefties for no reason at all? Or, that they were just targeted for being Christians?

Sorry, no.

They made a direct statement that they would REFUSE to cater an event for gays, no ifs, ands or buts.

http://www.abc57.com/story/28681598/rfra-first-business-to-publicly-deny-same-sex-service

They would refuse to cater an event. Nobody asked them to cater an event. The media pressed them with a loaded question.
I guess you missed the part that gays are WELCOME in their establishment and they would never refuse to serve gays.
They would only refuse to cater a gay wedding - that is an EVENT. They are not refusing to serve anyone.

It wasn't a "loaded question" - it was asking the owners of a business to state their corporate policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

IIRC, this is sort of like what the Christian baker in Oregon described. After he refused to sell to the lesbian couple, he got a ton of orders from pro-religion / anti-gay groups nationwide, and his business was booming for six months. Then as the news articles subsided, his out-of-state business dried up. Since his local business reputation was trashed, he had to close the bakery for lack of orders. I suspect the pizza place might get the same initial support, but will face long-term problems.

I don't see how his reputation was "trashed." He is anti-gay-marriage and wouldn't provide wedding cakes to gay couples. That's not smear -- that's the truth. So, once the ruckus died down, the local market decided to vote with their feet and take their money somewhere else. Works for me.

Yea, I do not get the PP's who somehow think that these folks are somehow "entitled" to a certain amouunt of business. My religous views aside, it was dumb for a small business owner to take this sort of stand, especially in the Pacific NW. From a business perspective, he had a poor handle on his market. Further, if his views were so lauded by Christians, why didn't local Christians go out of their way to patronize him long term? That's the questions some of blaming "Libtard" rabble rousers should be asking.

They apparently are doing online business now i would never open brick and mortar these days for lots of reasons. The fund for the pizza place is now at half a mil. Clearly there are like-minded folks, and others who are simp,y sick of the bullying left

This was never about religion. “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” - Galatians 5:14

This is about bigotry, no ifs, ands or buts. A TRUE Christian would have instead spent the $500,000 on pizzas to feed the homeless rather than spending it to prop up bigotry and hate.

This pizza parlor, and its supporters, 50 years ago would have been the exact same people refusing to let blacks eat at a lunch counter. The behavior is one and the same and is as inexcusable now as it was then.

And, who exactly are YOU to judge?

Matthew 7:1-3: Judge not, that ye be not judged.

How do YOU know how this family will spend the money? You don’t.
And, how do YOU know what this family would have done 50 years ago? You don’t.
Seems to me that liberals are the MOST judgmental people here.

I know because actions speak louder than words. And the actions have already happened. The leopard's spots already show.

So, you are judging.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

IIRC, this is sort of like what the Christian baker in Oregon described. After he refused to sell to the lesbian couple, he got a ton of orders from pro-religion / anti-gay groups nationwide, and his business was booming for six months. Then as the news articles subsided, his out-of-state business dried up. Since his local business reputation was trashed, he had to close the bakery for lack of orders. I suspect the pizza place might get the same initial support, but will face long-term problems.

I don't see how his reputation was "trashed." He is anti-gay-marriage and wouldn't provide wedding cakes to gay couples. That's not smear -- that's the truth. So, once the ruckus died down, the local market decided to vote with their feet and take their money somewhere else. Works for me.

Yea, I do not get the PP's who somehow think that these folks are somehow "entitled" to a certain amouunt of business. My religous views aside, it was dumb for a small business owner to take this sort of stand, especially in the Pacific NW. From a business perspective, he had a poor handle on his market. Further, if his views were so lauded by Christians, why didn't local Christians go out of their way to patronize him long term? That's the questions some of blaming "Libtard" rabble rousers should be asking.

They apparently are doing online business now i would never open brick and mortar these days for lots of reasons. The fund for the pizza place is now at half a mil. Clearly there are like-minded folks, and others who are simp,y sick of the bullying left

This was never about religion. “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” - Galatians 5:14

This is about bigotry, no ifs, ands or buts. A TRUE Christian would have instead spent the $500,000 on pizzas to feed the homeless rather than spending it to prop up bigotry and hate.

This pizza parlor, and its supporters, 50 years ago would have been the exact same people refusing to let blacks eat at a lunch counter. The behavior is one and the same and is as inexcusable now as it was then.

And, who exactly are YOU to judge?

Matthew 7:1-3: Judge not, that ye be not judged.

How do YOU know how this family will spend the money? You don’t.
And, how do YOU know what this family would have done 50 years ago? You don’t.
Seems to me that liberals are the MOST judgmental people here.

But I guess it's fine to judge gays and deem them unfit to do business with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

IIRC, this is sort of like what the Christian baker in Oregon described. After he refused to sell to the lesbian couple, he got a ton of orders from pro-religion / anti-gay groups nationwide, and his business was booming for six months. Then as the news articles subsided, his out-of-state business dried up. Since his local business reputation was trashed, he had to close the bakery for lack of orders. I suspect the pizza place might get the same initial support, but will face long-term problems.

I don't see how his reputation was "trashed." He is anti-gay-marriage and wouldn't provide wedding cakes to gay couples. That's not smear -- that's the truth. So, once the ruckus died down, the local market decided to vote with their feet and take their money somewhere else. Works for me.

Yea, I do not get the PP's who somehow think that these folks are somehow "entitled" to a certain amouunt of business. My religous views aside, it was dumb for a small business owner to take this sort of stand, especially in the Pacific NW. From a business perspective, he had a poor handle on his market. Further, if his views were so lauded by Christians, why didn't local Christians go out of their way to patronize him long term? That's the questions some of blaming "Libtard" rabble rousers should be asking.

They apparently are doing online business now i would never open brick and mortar these days for lots of reasons. The fund for the pizza place is now at half a mil. Clearly there are like-minded folks, and others who are simp,y sick of the bullying left

This was never about religion. “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” - Galatians 5:14

This is about bigotry, no ifs, ands or buts. A TRUE Christian would have instead spent the $500,000 on pizzas to feed the homeless rather than spending it to prop up bigotry and hate.

This pizza parlor, and its supporters, 50 years ago would have been the exact same people refusing to let blacks eat at a lunch counter. The behavior is one and the same and is as inexcusable now as it was then.

And, who exactly are YOU to judge?

Matthew 7:1-3: Judge not, that ye be not judged.

How do YOU know how this family will spend the money? You don’t.
And, how do YOU know what this family would have done 50 years ago? You don’t.
Seems to me that liberals are the MOST judgmental people here.

But I guess it's fine to judge gays and deem them unfit to do business with.

They are NOT judging gays.
They cannot, in good conscience, cater a gay wedding. According to their religious beliefs.
Remember, they have stated they welcome gays into their restaurant and would serve them. It is not about being gay.
It is about the religious aspect of the ceremony.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are NOT judging gays.
They cannot, in good conscience, cater a gay wedding. According to their religious beliefs.
Remember, they have stated they welcome gays into their restaurant and would serve them. It is not about being gay.
It is about the religious aspect of the ceremony.

But they're not religious beliefs- they are using religion to justify hateful, homophobic beliefs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are NOT judging gays.
They cannot, in good conscience, cater a gay wedding. According to their religious beliefs.
Remember, they have stated they welcome gays into their restaurant and would serve them. It is not about being gay.
It is about the religious aspect of the ceremony.

But they're not religious beliefs- they are using religion to justify hateful, homophobic beliefs.

They ARE their religious beliefs.
You are judging again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are NOT judging gays.
They cannot, in good conscience, cater a gay wedding. According to their religious beliefs.
Remember, they have stated they welcome gays into their restaurant and would serve them. It is not about being gay.
It is about the religious aspect of the ceremony.

But they're not religious beliefs- they are using religion to justify hateful, homophobic beliefs.

They ARE their religious beliefs.
You are judging again.

NP -

It's not a question of their religious beliefs, it's a question of the rules for doing business.

I may judge them based on their expressed beliefs, in the same way I might judge someone based on their expressed political positions, but in this case it's a question of law, not a question of religious belief.

The law requires businesses to treat all customers the same. In this case, if the pizza place is willing to cater any event, they are not permitted to discriminate against any group based on race, gender, religion, etc. Catering an event is not an expression of support for the underlying reason for the event.

The outrage at the Indiana government is that they passed a law with the express intent of protecting businesses from the consequences of discriminating against groups they don't like.

The question asked of the pizza place, whose management chose to insert themselves into the debate, was no more loaded than asking Sarah Palin what newspapers she reads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

IIRC, this is sort of like what the Christian baker in Oregon described. After he refused to sell to the lesbian couple, he got a ton of orders from pro-religion / anti-gay groups nationwide, and his business was booming for six months. Then as the news articles subsided, his out-of-state business dried up. Since his local business reputation was trashed, he had to close the bakery for lack of orders. I suspect the pizza place might get the same initial support, but will face long-term problems.

I don't see how his reputation was "trashed." He is anti-gay-marriage and wouldn't provide wedding cakes to gay couples. That's not smear -- that's the truth. So, once the ruckus died down, the local market decided to vote with their feet and take their money somewhere else. Works for me.

Yea, I do not get the PP's who somehow think that these folks are somehow "entitled" to a certain amouunt of business. My religous views aside, it was dumb for a small business owner to take this sort of stand, especially in the Pacific NW. From a business perspective, he had a poor handle on his market. Further, if his views were so lauded by Christians, why didn't local Christians go out of their way to patronize him long term? That's the questions some of blaming "Libtard" rabble rousers should be asking.

They apparently are doing online business now i would never open brick and mortar these days for lots of reasons. The fund for the pizza place is now at half a mil. Clearly there are like-minded folks, and others who are simp,y sick of the bullying left

This was never about religion. “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” - Galatians 5:14

This is about bigotry, no ifs, ands or buts. A TRUE Christian would have instead spent the $500,000 on pizzas to feed the homeless rather than spending it to prop up bigotry and hate.

This pizza parlor, and its supporters, 50 years ago would have been the exact same people refusing to let blacks eat at a lunch counter. The behavior is one and the same and is as inexcusable now as it was then.

+1. Well said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

IIRC, this is sort of like what the Christian baker in Oregon described. After he refused to sell to the lesbian couple, he got a ton of orders from pro-religion / anti-gay groups nationwide, and his business was booming for six months. Then as the news articles subsided, his out-of-state business dried up. Since his local business reputation was trashed, he had to close the bakery for lack of orders. I suspect the pizza place might get the same initial support, but will face long-term problems.

I don't see how his reputation was "trashed." He is anti-gay-marriage and wouldn't provide wedding cakes to gay couples. That's not smear -- that's the truth. So, once the ruckus died down, the local market decided to vote with their feet and take their money somewhere else. Works for me.

Yea, I do not get the PP's who somehow think that these folks are somehow "entitled" to a certain amouunt of business. My religous views aside, it was dumb for a small business owner to take this sort of stand, especially in the Pacific NW. From a business perspective, he had a poor handle on his market. Further, if his views were so lauded by Christians, why didn't local Christians go out of their way to patronize him long term? That's the questions some of blaming "Libtard" rabble rousers should be asking.

They apparently are doing online business now i would never open brick and mortar these days for lots of reasons. The fund for the pizza place is now at half a mil. Clearly there are like-minded folks, and others who are simp,y sick of the bullying left

This was never about religion. “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” - Galatians 5:14

This is about bigotry, no ifs, ands or buts. A TRUE Christian would have instead spent the $500,000 on pizzas to feed the homeless rather than spending it to prop up bigotry and hate.

This pizza parlor, and its supporters, 50 years ago would have been the exact same people refusing to let blacks eat at a lunch counter. The behavior is one and the same and is as inexcusable now as it was then.

And, who exactly are YOU to judge?

Matthew 7:1-3: Judge not, that ye be not judged.

How do YOU know how this family will spend the money? You don’t.
And, how do YOU know what this family would have done 50 years ago? You don’t.
Seems to me that liberals are the MOST judgmental people here.

But I guess it's fine to judge gays and deem them unfit to do business with.

They are NOT judging gays.
They cannot, in good conscience, cater a gay wedding. According to their religious beliefs.
Remember, they have stated they welcome gays into their restaurant and would serve them. It is not about being gay.
It is about the religious aspect of the ceremony.

That is bullshit. Nowhere does it say "thou shalt not do business with people and deny service to people whose views thou doesn't agree with" in the Bible. You are making an illegitimate claim.