Boycott Virginia - new abortion law, new personhood law..... War on woman

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:pp, how old are you? Eleven? Do you really think this is how it is done? Well, I guess where it is illegal and people don't have access to medicine to make the heart stop beating....One more reason to keep it legal.

Why bother to make the heart stop beating if its not a life?

I'm not the PP, and I should probably ignore you, but this is NOT like putting a pet down. That heart only beats because it is inside a woman's body. If it were possible to take the "baby" from the mother and incubate it somewhere, you might have an argument. It's not a person. It's not an independent lifeform. It's a fetus. Period. And before you start talking viability yada yada yada, remember, most abortions are performed WELL before viability. Of the tiny fraction of abortions that are performed after "viability" (debatable timeframe, but after 22 weeks is the earliest I've seen), most are abortions of fetuses that would not be viable anyway because of serious defects. The rest, well, those are sad IMO. But it's still not my choice to make.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1380282/Earliest-surviving-premature-baby-goes-home-parents.html

21 weeks 5 days....so essentially 22 weeks, like I said.

[Anonymous]

John Stewart's Punanny state.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-blasts-religious-leaders-punanny-state-control-of-women/

[Anonymous]

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-rachel-maddow-show/46391123#46391123

[Anonymous]

And more John Stewart

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/virginia-politics/post/va-ultrasound-bill-gets-daily-show-mocking/2012/02/22/gIQAoV2LTR_blog.html?hpid=z4

[Anonymous]

Let's compare birth control and Lipitor.

BC prevents the unwanted consequences of (some) sex - pregnancy.

Lipitor prevents the unwanted consequences of high cholesterol - namely heart attack and stroke.

Pregnancy is the consequence of a (usually) voluntary act.

High cholesterol is the consequence of (usually) poor diet.

Pregnancy is not usually fatal. In some people (the majority) it works out fine. Some people, yes it may cause life threatening complications.

High cholesterol is not always fatal. In some people, it may lead to heart attack/stroke. Other people, like those in MY family, seem to be able to live to be 90 years old despite high cholesterol. Must be all the booze....



So why is it OK for health care plans to cover lipitor, which is a preventative medication for a condition that in large part occured due to the poor choices of the patient?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

So why is it OK for health care plans to cover lipitor, which is a preventative medication for a condition that in large part occured due to the poor choices of the patient?

We also cover medication for Type 2 diabetes, lung cancer, etc. For the most part, diseases related to life choices. Only when it comes to a "woman only" condition does it seem up for debate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So why is it OK for health care plans to cover lipitor, which is a preventative medication for a condition that in large part occured due to the poor choices of the patient?

We also cover medication for Type 2 diabetes, lung cancer, etc. For the most part, diseases related to life choices. Only when it comes to a "woman only" condition does it seem up for debate.

ITA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So why is it OK for health care plans to cover lipitor, which is a preventative medication for a condition that in large part occured due to the poor choices of the patient?

We also cover medication for Type 2 diabetes, lung cancer, etc. For the most part, diseases related to life choices. Only when it comes to a "woman only" condition does it seem up for debate.

ITA

Conceiving a baby isn't a disease

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So why is it OK for health care plans to cover lipitor, which is a preventative medication for a condition that in large part occured due to the poor choices of the patient?

We also cover medication for Type 2 diabetes, lung cancer, etc. For the most part, diseases related to life choices. Only when it comes to a "woman only" condition does it seem up for debate.

ITA

Conceiving a baby isn't a disease

Eating burgers and fries isn't either.

[Anonymous]

Pregnancy is a medical condition, albeit a temporary one. Another life form colonizes your abdomen and parasitizes the host. The parasite creates swelling, nausea, and drains the host of nutrients. Other side effects may include hihg blood pressure and temporary diabetes. Other complications may arise, up to and including death.

The question is whether one voluntarily - even enthusiastically - allows this parasitization with the goal of having a baby.

Parasite definition:

par·a·site (pr-st)
n.
1. Biology An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.

Interestingly, another online dictionary specifies that the parasite must be of another species. Betcha the authors were thinking of pregnancy and they are prolife!

1. an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment.
2. a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pregnancy is a medical condition, albeit a temporary one. Another life form colonizes your abdomen and parasitizes the host. The parasite creates swelling, nausea, and drains the host of nutrients. Other side effects may include hihg blood pressure and temporary diabetes. Other complications may arise, up to and including death.

The question is whether one voluntarily - even enthusiastically - allows this parasitization with the goal of having a baby.

Parasite definition:

par·a·site (pr-st)
n.
1. Biology An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.

Interestingly, another online dictionary specifies that the parasite must be of another species. Betcha the authors were thinking of pregnancy and they are prolife!

1. an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment.
2. a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.

Is "My little parasites" the nick name you give your kids?