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- The d1 vs d3 thing was all 😳
- This is a soccer thread & why we all come here. What this sub forum is not is one discussing education.
- With that said if you are playing at Arlington, Bethesda, Fairfax Union, MD United, NVA, Richmond United, VDA or VRSC it’s your goal & dream to play d1. Anything beneath that soccer wise is a bust. Players playing & spending less on ECNL RL, EDP, GA Aspire or NCSL are making d3 rosters without spending as much & traveling.
- One doesn’t get treated the same playing d1 as they d2 or d3.
- Strictly talking soccer and not academics.
Sorry but you strike me as Al Bundy/Uncle Rico type. Sports is life. Der.
Some of us are looking to optimize sports and academics. I also seriously doubt you actually know much about D3, but why would you I guess. Wash U roster is loaded. GA and ECNL members that could have played almost anywhere. One was on the Canadian National team for u17. But you wouldn't have a clue about that.
I dont get why people get so hung up on D1. A third of freshmen girls entered the portal. Want to guess how many did in D3?
But you enjoy the job prospects of a Coppin State or Arkansas Pine Bluff degree while the Canadian National Team member majors in data science at Wash U 🤣
As Judge Smails so appropriately put it, the world needs ditch diggers too.............
4 years vs 40 my friends.........
this is a soccer forum dummy. You are just deflecting. If your kid is smart enough to get into a academic school they are obviously going there for education and soccer is a bonus. Sorry D3 soccer isnt an accomplishment or flex. And likely you are paying for that expensive education.
??? You don't think playing D3 college soccer is an accomplishment? This is an absolutely asinine take.
d3 is absolutely an accomplishment
no its not. Anyone with club experience can make a D3 team somewhere in the country. But same poster keeps making this about academics. At that point its not about soccer its about education. So i would expect you are picking schools based off and not basing it off where you can play meaningless D3 soccer.
I would argue that all soccer levels are meaningless if they dont somehow funnel into playing professionally.
From there I would argue that playing professionally for a league with salary caps (like mls + nwsl) is meaningless.
You don’t see any benefit to playing college sports?
They are replying to the post earlier where PP said anything outside of D1 is meaningless. Whether D1, DII, DIII, it all means the students have a great work ethic if and only if they graduate with good grades. A kid who graduates from Washington and Lee with a 4.0 while playing soccer is going to get into a Ivy League graduate school over the kid from Syracuse with a 3.0. Law School and Med School don't care about soccer accomplishments. They care about the Academic level of the school and the GPA only.
On a soccer level however, all of it doesn't mean anything unless going to Pro level, which is your highly successful D1 players, meaning All-Conference and All-American. On that level, you are a talking a maximum of maybe five players per age group from the entire DMV including Baltimore and Richmond that make the cut. Perhaps those 5 can play in NWSL or over seas and make minimum pay. I think that is roughly a fair number based on the current Freshman, maybe a couple more. One could argue anything outside that is "meaningless" soccer. I mean really think about that. Just because your kid plays for VDA does not mean your kid is one of the top 10 in VA, MD, DE, and WV. If your child is on the USYNT, than sure, but what, we have 4 or four of them at most, and not all at the same camps. Your DD is not Trinity Rodman, Rose Lavelle, Sophia Smith, etc. On top of that the players I just mentioned are from different age groups.
Look, to be clear, I get P4. Have no gripes with P4. Most P4s have high Academic standards. Getting the percs that come along with it. I get it. But your standard Towson, UMBC, Duquesne, and many many mid-majors that are not well known for Academics, that is what I am talking about vs. the DIII Johns Hopkins type schools vs the previously mentioned D1 schools.
Accomplishment in my POV- Duke, Stanford, FSU, and almost all P4s...however, some players are going to learn the hard way that they did not belong on this level and end up transferring to mediocre mid majors. Their parents were P4 or bust, ignoring what really mattered. These are usually players that don't start on good ECNL teams and are recruited for just being on that good ECNL team, surrounded by players that make them look better than what they are. Meanwhile, schools like VT recruit them, put them through hell where they end up quitting all together or transferring. Now, on the brightside, it is an accomplishment as they got into to VT for soccer and benefit from the VT Academics moving forward.
No legs to stand on, putting DIII players and families down - Any D1s accepting more than 50% of its applicants including Big East Schools like St. John's and Seton Hall. Your kid is not special. Schools like these are not even in the same discussion as Johns Hopkins. The top players at WashU or Emory could just as easily play in the Big East if they wanted to. I've seen so many coach interviews saying exactly that over the years. Top DIIIs can compete with mid majors day in and day out. If you are a parent trying to justify a mid major D1 experience over top of an Ivy level education, your priorities are wrong. if your kid doesn't have perfect grades or maybe not as intelligent as others, than going to a Towson or Seton Hall might make sense. Also, if your college tuition is mostly paid for, 100% nothing wrong about going to one of those mid major schools. In the end however, a player going to a Johns Hopkins and playing soccer is going to have a MAJOR advantage over a player coming out of Appalachian State or Butler University. Don't hate the player, hate the complete well rounded athletic and academic game.