10 angry old people yelling at a community meeting is not "overwhelming opposition". Get a clue, dud. 99% of people have something called a "life" and don't attend those silly meetings. And those people want more housing. You lost. Get over it.
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DP. You are right most people don’t attend the meetings. All of them I know were opposed. Many think you all are destroying the quality of life in the county, and thinking about getting out. The county lost. Again. It’s been losing for years. By idiots who think they know what’s better than the community. Enjoy winning |
| Does MoCo have data centers like NoVa? If not, did we miss out? |
Sure if you want Cancer, major environmental problems and even larger electric costs. |
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MOCO has a huge problem.
Conservatives see an in and they are coming for the county. BOE elections tell us this. Crazy shitty Brenda Diaz got too many votes last time. And now Ricki Mui is trying again at something. Even Mandel the insane got votes which is horrifying. And now there are others who think they can hide who they are. Do your research people. Stay away from Moderately Montgomery they are RW drivel with anyone else they promote. They try to hide it with word salad like Esther Wells again another MAGA stupid. MAGA is growing in MOCO because everyone else is lethargic and thinks if they have money none of this affects them. Democratic party in MOCO has major issues. Well Hobby Lobby would not be coming here if they did not think it was finally time to take over. It is a sign the county is going the wrong way. Wake the hell up Moms4Liberty is coming for your schools and believe me the evidence is glaring Republicans/conservatives take over a county or a state it dies. The Evidence is in every red state in this country. |
lol. This is how MoCo ended up stagnating. |
I attended multiple listening sessions. Hundreds of people in attendance. Overwhelming opposition from communities impacted. You can watch these sessions online. Don’t have to take my word for it. This plan is entirely for-profit developer driven. It allows developers to build massive condos in SFH neighborhoods and charge $$$$$$ without any of the hassle of community input or impact taxes. It doesn’t ensure affordable housing - to the contrary. The county’s own assessment highlighted that the plan undermines already affordable neighborhoods and disproportionately affects black and Latino families. And it puts the burden of all infrastructures related costs on the backs of taxpayers who are already facing rising property taxes. All of which is contributing to the further decline of the county. |
I’ll say this. I’m not voting Republican bc MAGA is a destructive force and undermines democracy and well being in this country. But I sure as heck won’t be voting for any “progressive” in MoCo who isn’t getting good paying professional jobs into the county, is selling out middle class SFH neighborhoods to developers, and who isn’t making common sense decisions about county resources and tax revenue (eg., stop tax giveaways to for-profit developers and banks). |
Take your meds. Republicans aren’t ever going to win in MoCo. It will just continue to get poorer and poorer, and more black and Latino as has been the trend over the past two decades — two groups of people who dont exactly vote red. |
DP. Curious why you think the plan will lower housing prices because the land and housing prices have gone up every other time we’ve increased zoning. Land cost is a major driver of housing cost so if the land becomes more expensive how do you lower prices for comparable units? |
The only way to get those jobs is to fix the schools. I am not talking about a few small businesses. To get thousands of well-paid jobs, you need fortune 500 companies. And their biggest criteria: -well educated community -affordable housing and decent commute for their employees -excellent schools for their employees children Montgomery County currently has 1 of 3. If we dont address the other 2, it's only going to get worse |
I agree with you about the importance of schools. But I think the county could do more to promote businesses coming here. Look at NoVa - over the last 20 years businesses, including multiple Fortune 500 companies but also smaller but healthy businesses, have set up shop in NoVa. In MoCo it’s been drip, drip, drip and many businesses have actually left the county. We couldn’t even secure a replacement for Discovery in SS, which was a prime location for a business at the time. As a tax payer I’d much rather subsidize corporations who commit to the county and offer professional, high paying jobs, versus subsidizing these real estate developers who sap resources and just add to the decline of infrastructure while building condos that they sell for $$$. But that is where the council is focused. Who do they think is going to buy these condos?!? |
Well, your argument failed miserably because: -MoCo has well educated community, probably better than NoVa -MoCo has more affordable housing -MoCo has better schools. |
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I was looking at FARM rates at mcps and was shocked by how high they are across the board. Here is a snapshot from 2024: https://www.creativemoco.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2022-2023-MCPS-Schools-at-a-Glance.pdf
So I was curious and looked up fcps rates. There is no good summary sheet for FCPS but when I look at individual schools, they seem magnitudes lower than MCPS: https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108%3A8 Am I looking at this right? Comparing apples to apples? I am a long time Moco resident and this data really makes me want to flee. |