I fear for the future of Einstein.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to wonder which central office staffer thought to themselves "Whitman just doesn't have enough academically advanced kids with lots of resources, we need to bring more into Whitman from East county schools!"

They probably think some families who can’t afford Whitman but want a top rated top resourced school would like a chance to apply in. It’s bizarre to me that people wouldn’t want at least the option for access to a school that is known to be the best. Fine if you don’t want to take advantage of the option and I get the downsides of the commute. But it’s weird that you would think just because you wouldn’t want to send your kid there that nobody would.

It's weird for you to say this when my previous post clearly indicates my concern is that kids/families will want to go to Whitman, not that they won't.

Every MCPS school has academically advanced kids, of all racial and socioeconomic backgrounds. But the availability of advanced coursework in any given school is dependent on "interest" - or more specifically the cohort of academically advanced kids that are interested in taking the course. This is why Whitman's course bulletin lists 9 different AP social studies courses and Einstein has 5. The academically advanced cohort at Einstein is smaller than the one at Whitman (or BCC). Now, you take 50 kids from Einstein and put them in the humanities magnet, another 50 get into the languages program, another 50 go to BCC for IB. What do you think happens to the academically advanced kids that get left behind, either because they can't fit in a 1 hour each way commute or because they struck out in the lottery? They lose more humanities options at Einstein. If you don't put the humanities magnet at Whitman, nothing bad happens to them. Few Whitman students will go to BCC or Northwood, because they have so much advanced humanities courses at their home school. What would be the point of traveling all that way? Plus their cohort is large enough anyway.

I honestly think they could swap the medical programs and put them at Whitman and put the Humanities program at Einstein and give back the performing arts to Northwood and everyone would feel a little more satisfied.

DP - no, thank you. I’m glad Einstein will have medical sciences. Whitman doesn’t need anything special beyond being Whitman and I mean that sincerely.

That’s fine, and you can have your opinion, but they are putting a program in every school so unless you think 24 schools should get a program and Whitman should be excluded because reasons, they’re going to get something. Honestly it doesn’t sound like Einstein people will be satisfied no matter what is offered to them.

We want the same opportunities that your kids get at Whitman at our home schools. If you get arts and academics, shouldn’t our kids as well. I think you don’t understand the huge disparities at each school.

The medical program is very basic.

You’d be much better served advocating as a group for reasonable things like getting the Humanities magnet rather than asking for ridiculous things like getting the humanities AND medical AND performing arts and Northwood and Whitman getting nothing. It seems like you have several very reasonable posters but the unrealistic ones are hurting your cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to wonder which central office staffer thought to themselves "Whitman just doesn't have enough academically advanced kids with lots of resources, we need to bring more into Whitman from East county schools!"

They probably think some families who can’t afford Whitman but want a top rated top resourced school would like a chance to apply in. It’s bizarre to me that people wouldn’t want at least the option for access to a school that is known to be the best. Fine if you don’t want to take advantage of the option and I get the downsides of the commute. But it’s weird that you would think just because you wouldn’t want to send your kid there that nobody would.

It's weird for you to say this when my previous post clearly indicates my concern is that kids/families will want to go to Whitman, not that they won't.

Every MCPS school has academically advanced kids, of all racial and socioeconomic backgrounds. But the availability of advanced coursework in any given school is dependent on "interest" - or more specifically the cohort of academically advanced kids that are interested in taking the course. This is why Whitman's course bulletin lists 9 different AP social studies courses and Einstein has 5. The academically advanced cohort at Einstein is smaller than the one at Whitman (or BCC). Now, you take 50 kids from Einstein and put them in the humanities magnet, another 50 get into the languages program, another 50 go to BCC for IB. What do you think happens to the academically advanced kids that get left behind, either because they can't fit in a 1 hour each way commute or because they struck out in the lottery? They lose more humanities options at Einstein. If you don't put the humanities magnet at Whitman, nothing bad happens to them. Few Whitman students will go to BCC or Northwood, because they have so much advanced humanities courses at their home school. What would be the point of traveling all that way? Plus their cohort is large enough anyway.

I honestly think they could swap the medical programs and put them at Whitman and put the Humanities program at Einstein and give back the performing arts to Northwood and everyone would feel a little more satisfied.

DP - no, thank you. I’m glad Einstein will have medical sciences. Whitman doesn’t need anything special beyond being Whitman and I mean that sincerely.

That’s fine, and you can have your opinion, but they are putting a program in every school so unless you think 24 schools should get a program and Whitman should be excluded because reasons, they’re going to get something. Honestly it doesn’t sound like Einstein people will be satisfied no matter what is offered to them.

We want the same opportunities that your kids get at Whitman at our home schools. If you get arts and academics, shouldn’t our kids as well. I think you don’t understand the huge disparities at each school.

The medical program is very basic.

You’d be much better served advocating as a group for reasonable things like getting the Humanities magnet rather than asking for ridiculous things like getting the humanities AND medical AND performing arts and Northwood and Whitman getting nothing. It seems like you have several very reasonable posters but the unrealistic ones are hurting your cause.

Um nobody I know from Einstein asked for these things. I personally don't want half the humanities kids siphoned off to Whitman. If humanities were at Northwood, I'd be much happier.

Why are you so insistent on misrepresenting what Einstein parents have actually advocated for? What's your agenda? Be honest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought theater was staying at Northwood?

You're right, it is. It's listed under Northwood as as "interest" based program, and Einstein has visual arts and music.

I'm an Einstein parent. Whitman, BCC, and Blair all have stronger MUSIC programs than Einstein. I'd give Whitman the music program and put Humanities magnet at Einstein.

My other unpopular opinion is that the vast majority of Einstein parents could care less about IB. Give it to BCC and let us have more AP classes.

Zoned for Einstein. I have a child at another DCC high school, and honestly, if my child had gone to Einstein, I’m not sure how we would’ve chosen between IB and AP for English classes given einstein’s open IB model. I would be happy with AP classes for my younger children who will attend Einstein. I don’t know what AP classes Einstein currently offers, but if there’s a good spread throughout the subjects on par with other high schools in MCPS, that would satisfy me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the reason Whitman doesn't need a program is because they already have:
- their own engineering program
- Numerous advanced science classes including 3 different AP physics classes
- advanced math up to MVC (no I am not the MVC poster but just cataloguing what Whitman has, and one of those things is MVC)
- 9 AP social studies classes

So no, they won't be sending their kids to Einstein for biomedical science, gmafb. The kids will be traveling one way in this model.

Whitman also offers the most foreign languages out of all MCPS highschools despite its size. They offer ASL, French, Latin, Arabic, Italian, Spanish, Chinese, and Japanese.

Why do they offer different foreign languages at different schools? This seems very unfair to me. I would like these offered at Einstein!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to wonder which central office staffer thought to themselves "Whitman just doesn't have enough academically advanced kids with lots of resources, we need to bring more into Whitman from East county schools!"

They probably think some families who can’t afford Whitman but want a top rated top resourced school would like a chance to apply in. It’s bizarre to me that people wouldn’t want at least the option for access to a school that is known to be the best. Fine if you don’t want to take advantage of the option and I get the downsides of the commute. But it’s weird that you would think just because you wouldn’t want to send your kid there that nobody would.

It's weird for you to say this when my previous post clearly indicates my concern is that kids/families will want to go to Whitman, not that they won't.

Every MCPS school has academically advanced kids, of all racial and socioeconomic backgrounds. But the availability of advanced coursework in any given school is dependent on "interest" - or more specifically the cohort of academically advanced kids that are interested in taking the course. This is why Whitman's course bulletin lists 9 different AP social studies courses and Einstein has 5. The academically advanced cohort at Einstein is smaller than the one at Whitman (or BCC). Now, you take 50 kids from Einstein and put them in the humanities magnet, another 50 get into the languages program, another 50 go to BCC for IB. What do you think happens to the academically advanced kids that get left behind, either because they can't fit in a 1 hour each way commute or because they struck out in the lottery? They lose more humanities options at Einstein. If you don't put the humanities magnet at Whitman, nothing bad happens to them. Few Whitman students will go to BCC or Northwood, because they have so much advanced humanities courses at their home school. What would be the point of traveling all that way? Plus their cohort is large enough anyway.

I honestly think they could swap the medical programs and put them at Whitman and put the Humanities program at Einstein and give back the performing arts to Northwood and everyone would feel a little more satisfied.

DP - no, thank you. I’m glad Einstein will have medical sciences. Whitman doesn’t need anything special beyond being Whitman and I mean that sincerely.

That’s fine, and you can have your opinion, but they are putting a program in every school so unless you think 24 schools should get a program and Whitman should be excluded because reasons, they’re going to get something. Honestly it doesn’t sound like Einstein people will be satisfied no matter what is offered to them.

We want the same opportunities that your kids get at Whitman at our home schools. If you get arts and academics, shouldn’t our kids as well. I think you don’t understand the huge disparities at each school.

The medical program is very basic.

You’d be much better served advocating as a group for reasonable things like getting the Humanities magnet rather than asking for ridiculous things like getting the humanities AND medical AND performing arts and Northwood and Whitman getting nothing. It seems like you have several very reasonable posters but the unrealistic ones are hurting your cause.

Um nobody I know from Einstein asked for these things. I personally don't want half the humanities kids siphoned off to Whitman. If humanities were at Northwood, I'd be much happier.

Why are you so insistent on misrepresenting what Einstein parents have actually advocated for? What's your agenda? Be honest.

The only info I have on any of this is these threads where y’all can’t seem to find consensus and some people are coming across as unrealistic and others are frankly coming across as hysterical and mean. Others are coming across as normal and reasonable. Maybe it is unfathomable to you that an anonymous person with no skin in this or agenda would try to help you all distill your priorities down to something reasonable and practical, but it’s the truth. My own kids will not be affected by these changes in this region.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the reason Whitman doesn't need a program is because they already have:
- their own engineering program
- Numerous advanced science classes including 3 different AP physics classes
- advanced math up to MVC (no I am not the MVC poster but just cataloguing what Whitman has, and one of those things is MVC)
- 9 AP social studies classes

So no, they won't be sending their kids to Einstein for biomedical science, gmafb. The kids will be traveling one way in this model.

Whitman also offers the most foreign languages out of all MCPS highschools despite its size. They offer ASL, French, Latin, Arabic, Italian, Spanish, Chinese, and Japanese.

Why do they offer different foreign languages at different schools? This seems very unfair to me. I would like these offered at Einstein!

different schools have different student populations and needs. this is public school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to wonder which central office staffer thought to themselves "Whitman just doesn't have enough academically advanced kids with lots of resources, we need to bring more into Whitman from East county schools!"

They probably think some families who can’t afford Whitman but want a top rated top resourced school would like a chance to apply in. It’s bizarre to me that people wouldn’t want at least the option for access to a school that is known to be the best. Fine if you don’t want to take advantage of the option and I get the downsides of the commute. But it’s weird that you would think just because you wouldn’t want to send your kid there that nobody would.

It's weird for you to say this when my previous post clearly indicates my concern is that kids/families will want to go to Whitman, not that they won't.

Every MCPS school has academically advanced kids, of all racial and socioeconomic backgrounds. But the availability of advanced coursework in any given school is dependent on "interest" - or more specifically the cohort of academically advanced kids that are interested in taking the course. This is why Whitman's course bulletin lists 9 different AP social studies courses and Einstein has 5. The academically advanced cohort at Einstein is smaller than the one at Whitman (or BCC). Now, you take 50 kids from Einstein and put them in the humanities magnet, another 50 get into the languages program, another 50 go to BCC for IB. What do you think happens to the academically advanced kids that get left behind, either because they can't fit in a 1 hour each way commute or because they struck out in the lottery? They lose more humanities options at Einstein. If you don't put the humanities magnet at Whitman, nothing bad happens to them. Few Whitman students will go to BCC or Northwood, because they have so much advanced humanities courses at their home school. What would be the point of traveling all that way? Plus their cohort is large enough anyway.

I honestly think they could swap the medical programs and put them at Whitman and put the Humanities program at Einstein and give back the performing arts to Northwood and everyone would feel a little more satisfied.

DP - no, thank you. I’m glad Einstein will have medical sciences. Whitman doesn’t need anything special beyond being Whitman and I mean that sincerely.

That’s fine, and you can have your opinion, but they are putting a program in every school so unless you think 24 schools should get a program and Whitman should be excluded because reasons, they’re going to get something. Honestly it doesn’t sound like Einstein people will be satisfied no matter what is offered to them.

We want the same opportunities that your kids get at Whitman at our home schools. If you get arts and academics, shouldn’t our kids as well. I think you don’t understand the huge disparities at each school.

The medical program is very basic.

You’d be much better served advocating as a group for reasonable things like getting the Humanities magnet rather than asking for ridiculous things like getting the humanities AND medical AND performing arts and Northwood and Whitman getting nothing. It seems like you have several very reasonable posters but the unrealistic ones are hurting your cause.

Um nobody I know from Einstein asked for these things. I personally don't want half the humanities kids siphoned off to Whitman. If humanities were at Northwood, I'd be much happier.

Why are you so insistent on misrepresenting what Einstein parents have actually advocated for? What's your agenda? Be honest.

The only info I have on any of this is these threads where y’all can’t seem to find consensus and some people are coming across as unrealistic and others are frankly coming across as hysterical and mean. Others are coming across as normal and reasonable. Maybe it is unfathomable to you that an anonymous person with no skin in this or agenda would try to help you all distill your priorities down to something reasonable and practical, but it’s the truth. My own kids will not be affected by these changes in this region.

So you don't have any experience with Einstein or our community but you feel the need to misrepresent and dismiss our concerns? That's pretty bizarre.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the reason Whitman doesn't need a program is because they already have:
- their own engineering program
- Numerous advanced science classes including 3 different AP physics classes
- advanced math up to MVC (no I am not the MVC poster but just cataloguing what Whitman has, and one of those things is MVC)
- 9 AP social studies classes

So no, they won't be sending their kids to Einstein for biomedical science, gmafb. The kids will be traveling one way in this model.

Whitman also offers the most foreign languages out of all MCPS highschools despite its size. They offer ASL, French, Latin, Arabic, Italian, Spanish, Chinese, and Japanese.

Why do they offer different foreign languages at different schools? This seems very unfair to me. I would like these offered at Einstein!

different schools have different student populations and needs. this is public school.

Yeah it’s public school. How is it a “different needs” thing? Or anything to do with the school population. Even if it’s based on student interest, how do they determine it? I have a kid in 10th grade, and I don’t recall him ever being surveyed on what foreign language/s he would like to study. I’ve certainly never been asked what languages I would like to see offered at the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the reason Whitman doesn't need a program is because they already have:
- their own engineering program
- Numerous advanced science classes including 3 different AP physics classes
- advanced math up to MVC (no I am not the MVC poster but just cataloguing what Whitman has, and one of those things is MVC)
- 9 AP social studies classes

So no, they won't be sending their kids to Einstein for biomedical science, gmafb. The kids will be traveling one way in this model.

Whitman also offers the most foreign languages out of all MCPS highschools despite its size. They offer ASL, French, Latin, Arabic, Italian, Spanish, Chinese, and Japanese.

Why do they offer different foreign languages at different schools? This seems very unfair to me. I would like these offered at Einstein!

different schools have different student populations and needs. this is public school.

Yes, you've said that about 5 trillion times on these boards. This is a a discussion about a proposal to place certain programs in certain schools. A proposal that is based on no assessment of student interests or needs, just the assumptions of central office staff and their reactions to the people who scream the loudest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to wonder which central office staffer thought to themselves "Whitman just doesn't have enough academically advanced kids with lots of resources, we need to bring more into Whitman from East county schools!"

They probably think some families who can’t afford Whitman but want a top rated top resourced school would like a chance to apply in. It’s bizarre to me that people wouldn’t want at least the option for access to a school that is known to be the best. Fine if you don’t want to take advantage of the option and I get the downsides of the commute. But it’s weird that you would think just because you wouldn’t want to send your kid there that nobody would.

It's weird for you to say this when my previous post clearly indicates my concern is that kids/families will want to go to Whitman, not that they won't.

Every MCPS school has academically advanced kids, of all racial and socioeconomic backgrounds. But the availability of advanced coursework in any given school is dependent on "interest" - or more specifically the cohort of academically advanced kids that are interested in taking the course. This is why Whitman's course bulletin lists 9 different AP social studies courses and Einstein has 5. The academically advanced cohort at Einstein is smaller than the one at Whitman (or BCC). Now, you take 50 kids from Einstein and put them in the humanities magnet, another 50 get into the languages program, another 50 go to BCC for IB. What do you think happens to the academically advanced kids that get left behind, either because they can't fit in a 1 hour each way commute or because they struck out in the lottery? They lose more humanities options at Einstein. If you don't put the humanities magnet at Whitman, nothing bad happens to them. Few Whitman students will go to BCC or Northwood, because they have so much advanced humanities courses at their home school. What would be the point of traveling all that way? Plus their cohort is large enough anyway.

I honestly think they could swap the medical programs and put them at Whitman and put the Humanities program at Einstein and give back the performing arts to Northwood and everyone would feel a little more satisfied.

DP - no, thank you. I’m glad Einstein will have medical sciences. Whitman doesn’t need anything special beyond being Whitman and I mean that sincerely.

That’s fine, and you can have your opinion, but they are putting a program in every school so unless you think 24 schools should get a program and Whitman should be excluded because reasons, they’re going to get something. Honestly it doesn’t sound like Einstein people will be satisfied no matter what is offered to them.

We want the same opportunities that your kids get at Whitman at our home schools. If you get arts and academics, shouldn’t our kids as well. I think you don’t understand the huge disparities at each school.

The medical program is very basic.

You’d be much better served advocating as a group for reasonable things like getting the Humanities magnet rather than asking for ridiculous things like getting the humanities AND medical AND performing arts and Northwood and Whitman getting nothing. It seems like you have several very reasonable posters but the unrealistic ones are hurting your cause.

Um nobody I know from Einstein asked for these things. I personally don't want half the humanities kids siphoned off to Whitman. If humanities were at Northwood, I'd be much happier.

Why are you so insistent on misrepresenting what Einstein parents have actually advocated for? What's your agenda? Be honest.

The only info I have on any of this is these threads where y’all can’t seem to find consensus and some people are coming across as unrealistic and others are frankly coming across as hysterical and mean. Others are coming across as normal and reasonable. Maybe it is unfathomable to you that an anonymous person with no skin in this or agenda would try to help you all distill your priorities down to something reasonable and practical, but it’s the truth. My own kids will not be affected by these changes in this region.

So you don't have any experience with Einstein or our community but you feel the need to misrepresent and dismiss our concerns? That's pretty bizarre.

Quite the opposite. I’m literally saying that an outsider looking in can’t determine your community’s priorities/concerns because it seems like there is a lack of consensus based on all the various posts. That is not dismissing you. Nor is that misrepresenting you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the reason Whitman doesn't need a program is because they already have:
- their own engineering program
- Numerous advanced science classes including 3 different AP physics classes
- advanced math up to MVC (no I am not the MVC poster but just cataloguing what Whitman has, and one of those things is MVC)
- 9 AP social studies classes

So no, they won't be sending their kids to Einstein for biomedical science, gmafb. The kids will be traveling one way in this model.

Whitman also offers the most foreign languages out of all MCPS highschools despite its size. They offer ASL, French, Latin, Arabic, Italian, Spanish, Chinese, and Japanese.

Why do they offer different foreign languages at different schools? This seems very unfair to me. I would like these offered at Einstein!

different schools have different student populations and needs. this is public school.

Yeah it’s public school. How is it a “different needs” thing? Or anything to do with the school population. Even if it’s based on student interest, how do they determine it? I have a kid in 10th grade, and I don’t recall him ever being surveyed on what foreign language/s he would like to study. I’ve certainly never been asked what languages I would like to see offered at the school.

as a basic example, different schools have different percentages of kids at or below grade level, which leads to more sections of classes at specific levels. this leads to having fewer resources at the school level for more advanced classes. i am not specifically talking about einstein, here, just a general example of why not all schools offer the same material. i mean, there isn't Middle College at every school, nor is there CTE....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the reason Whitman doesn't need a program is because they already have:
- their own engineering program
- Numerous advanced science classes including 3 different AP physics classes
- advanced math up to MVC (no I am not the MVC poster but just cataloguing what Whitman has, and one of those things is MVC)
- 9 AP social studies classes

So no, they won't be sending their kids to Einstein for biomedical science, gmafb. The kids will be traveling one way in this model.

Whitman also offers the most foreign languages out of all MCPS highschools despite its size. They offer ASL, French, Latin, Arabic, Italian, Spanish, Chinese, and Japanese.

Why do they offer different foreign languages at different schools? This seems very unfair to me. I would like these offered at Einstein!

different schools have different student populations and needs. this is public school.

Yeah it’s public school. How is it a “different needs” thing? Or anything to do with the school population. Even if it’s based on student interest, how do they determine it? I have a kid in 10th grade, and I don’t recall him ever being surveyed on what foreign language/s he would like to study. I’ve certainly never been asked what languages I would like to see offered at the school.

as a basic example, different schools have different percentages of kids at or below grade level, which leads to more sections of classes at specific levels. this leads to having fewer resources at the school level for more advanced classes. i am not specifically talking about einstein, here, just a general example of why not all schools offer the same material. i mean, there isn't Middle College at every school, nor is there CTE....

Whatever. Just seems pretty unfair if Whitman offers 8 foreign languages (based on prior post) and Einstein offers 3 based on their website.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to wonder which central office staffer thought to themselves "Whitman just doesn't have enough academically advanced kids with lots of resources, we need to bring more into Whitman from East county schools!"

They probably think some families who can’t afford Whitman but want a top rated top resourced school would like a chance to apply in. It’s bizarre to me that people wouldn’t want at least the option for access to a school that is known to be the best. Fine if you don’t want to take advantage of the option and I get the downsides of the commute. But it’s weird that you would think just because you wouldn’t want to send your kid there that nobody would.

It's weird for you to say this when my previous post clearly indicates my concern is that kids/families will want to go to Whitman, not that they won't.

Every MCPS school has academically advanced kids, of all racial and socioeconomic backgrounds. But the availability of advanced coursework in any given school is dependent on "interest" - or more specifically the cohort of academically advanced kids that are interested in taking the course. This is why Whitman's course bulletin lists 9 different AP social studies courses and Einstein has 5. The academically advanced cohort at Einstein is smaller than the one at Whitman (or BCC). Now, you take 50 kids from Einstein and put them in the humanities magnet, another 50 get into the languages program, another 50 go to BCC for IB. What do you think happens to the academically advanced kids that get left behind, either because they can't fit in a 1 hour each way commute or because they struck out in the lottery? They lose more humanities options at Einstein. If you don't put the humanities magnet at Whitman, nothing bad happens to them. Few Whitman students will go to BCC or Northwood, because they have so much advanced humanities courses at their home school. What would be the point of traveling all that way? Plus their cohort is large enough anyway.

I honestly think they could swap the medical programs and put them at Whitman and put the Humanities program at Einstein and give back the performing arts to Northwood and everyone would feel a little more satisfied.

DP - no, thank you. I’m glad Einstein will have medical sciences. Whitman doesn’t need anything special beyond being Whitman and I mean that sincerely.

That’s fine, and you can have your opinion, but they are putting a program in every school so unless you think 24 schools should get a program and Whitman should be excluded because reasons, they’re going to get something. Honestly it doesn’t sound like Einstein people will be satisfied no matter what is offered to them.

We want the same opportunities that your kids get at Whitman at our home schools. If you get arts and academics, shouldn’t our kids as well. I think you don’t understand the huge disparities at each school.

The medical program is very basic.

You’d be much better served advocating as a group for reasonable things like getting the Humanities magnet rather than asking for ridiculous things like getting the humanities AND medical AND performing arts and Northwood and Whitman getting nothing. It seems like you have several very reasonable posters but the unrealistic ones are hurting your cause.

Um nobody I know from Einstein asked for these things. I personally don't want half the humanities kids siphoned off to Whitman. If humanities were at Northwood, I'd be much happier.

Why are you so insistent on misrepresenting what Einstein parents have actually advocated for? What's your agenda? Be honest.

The only info I have on any of this is these threads where y’all can’t seem to find consensus and some people are coming across as unrealistic and others are frankly coming across as hysterical and mean. Others are coming across as normal and reasonable. Maybe it is unfathomable to you that an anonymous person with no skin in this or agenda would try to help you all distill your priorities down to something reasonable and practical, but it’s the truth. My own kids will not be affected by these changes in this region.

So you don't have any experience with Einstein or our community but you feel the need to misrepresent and dismiss our concerns? That's pretty bizarre.

Quite the opposite. I’m literally saying that an outsider looking in can’t determine your community’s priorities/concerns because it seems like there is a lack of consensus based on all the various posts. That is not dismissing you. Nor is that misrepresenting you.

This is an anonymous message board. Your expectation that folks only post curated talking points here is not reasonable or realistic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to wonder which central office staffer thought to themselves "Whitman just doesn't have enough academically advanced kids with lots of resources, we need to bring more into Whitman from East county schools!"

They probably think some families who can’t afford Whitman but want a top rated top resourced school would like a chance to apply in. It’s bizarre to me that people wouldn’t want at least the option for access to a school that is known to be the best. Fine if you don’t want to take advantage of the option and I get the downsides of the commute. But it’s weird that you would think just because you wouldn’t want to send your kid there that nobody would.

It's weird for you to say this when my previous post clearly indicates my concern is that kids/families will want to go to Whitman, not that they won't.

Every MCPS school has academically advanced kids, of all racial and socioeconomic backgrounds. But the availability of advanced coursework in any given school is dependent on "interest" - or more specifically the cohort of academically advanced kids that are interested in taking the course. This is why Whitman's course bulletin lists 9 different AP social studies courses and Einstein has 5. The academically advanced cohort at Einstein is smaller than the one at Whitman (or BCC). Now, you take 50 kids from Einstein and put them in the humanities magnet, another 50 get into the languages program, another 50 go to BCC for IB. What do you think happens to the academically advanced kids that get left behind, either because they can't fit in a 1 hour each way commute or because they struck out in the lottery? They lose more humanities options at Einstein. If you don't put the humanities magnet at Whitman, nothing bad happens to them. Few Whitman students will go to BCC or Northwood, because they have so much advanced humanities courses at their home school. What would be the point of traveling all that way? Plus their cohort is large enough anyway.

I honestly think they could swap the medical programs and put them at Whitman and put the Humanities program at Einstein and give back the performing arts to Northwood and everyone would feel a little more satisfied.

DP - no, thank you. I’m glad Einstein will have medical sciences. Whitman doesn’t need anything special beyond being Whitman and I mean that sincerely.

That’s fine, and you can have your opinion, but they are putting a program in every school so unless you think 24 schools should get a program and Whitman should be excluded because reasons, they’re going to get something. Honestly it doesn’t sound like Einstein people will be satisfied no matter what is offered to them.

They have their LASJ countywide program and are slated to keep it as a regional program. So they will still have a special program. If for some reason every single school needs a criteria based program then fine, make one track of LASJ criteria based and one track interest based, or both tracks criteria based, or whatever the heck central office and Whitman want to do with that program. That is absolutely all they need.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the reason Whitman doesn't need a program is because they already have:
- their own engineering program
- Numerous advanced science classes including 3 different AP physics classes
- advanced math up to MVC (no I am not the MVC poster but just cataloguing what Whitman has, and one of those things is MVC)
- 9 AP social studies classes

So no, they won't be sending their kids to Einstein for biomedical science, gmafb. The kids will be traveling one way in this model.

Whitman also offers the most foreign languages out of all MCPS highschools despite its size. They offer ASL, French, Latin, Arabic, Italian, Spanish, Chinese, and Japanese.

Why do they offer different foreign languages at different schools? This seems very unfair to me. I would like these offered at Einstein!

different schools have different student populations and needs. this is public school.

Yeah it’s public school. How is it a “different needs” thing? Or anything to do with the school population. Even if it’s based on student interest, how do they determine it? I have a kid in 10th grade, and I don’t recall him ever being surveyed on what foreign language/s he would like to study. I’ve certainly never been asked what languages I would like to see offered at the school.

as a basic example, different schools have different percentages of kids at or below grade level, which leads to more sections of classes at specific levels. this leads to having fewer resources at the school level for more advanced classes. i am not specifically talking about einstein, here, just a general example of why not all schools offer the same material. i mean, there isn't Middle College at every school, nor is there CTE....

Whatever. Just seems pretty unfair if Whitman offers 8 foreign languages (based on prior post) and Einstein offers 3 based on their website.

What did you think the differences would be between the richest population HS and one of the poorest? Honestly or did you kid your self that there was no difference and all those fools were simply overpaying for their homes? I mean deep down you knew the difference which is why you don't live in an even worse area right. The worst school in DC vs Wilson, you logically know they are completely different places even though they are the same system right? But you're shocked a HS with no measurable FARMS has perks compared to one with a number that hovers around 2/3rds on or have received FARMS. Lying to the world makes you a jerk, lying to yourself makes you a fool.