As a Jew, I’m terrified

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the issue in a nutshell …

The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department was forced to issue an apology recently after a benign tweet expressing concern for the victims and families of the recent war initiated against Iran, and indicating that they are working with partner agencies to monitor the situation locally to ensure the safety of the residents served by their department.

Los Angeles happens to be home to the largest population of Iranian emigres in the U.S., so the tweet made sense from a community awareness perspective. As a point of reference, the same agency has also tweeted (dozens of times over the past two years) expressing similar thoughts and concerns regarding the area’s Jewish community.

But of course … of course … of course … the AIPAC / ADL / Betar / Canary Mission / Laura Loomer / Ben Shapiro / Mark Levin / corrupted members of Congress dream team immediately sprung into action to demand a retraction and apology, with critics focused on the post’s insensitivity to Israel’s interests.

Ultimately, I fail to see how peace is achievable when the interests of one small group continue to be forced center stage at every juncture. And as long as that lack of peace continues, unfortunately, I suspect that individuals like the OP will likely continue to experience some level of fear - through no fault of their own. And that sucks.

Probably not a good idea for a government agency to express concern and sympathy for a country that is engaged in conflict with the United States.

Has nothing to do with Jews or Israel—all about America. The fact that you connect the issue to Jews graphically illustrates the problem.

They were not expressing sympathy for Iran. They were expressing sympathy for Persians in the Los Angeles region. There is kinda a difference.

C’mon. “Our hearts go out to the victims and the families impacted by the recent bombings in Iran.”

“Victims”? Of a US military action directed at Iranian military facilities? With no evidence of any civilian casualties whatsoever?

It was ridiculous for reasons having absolutely nothing to do with Jews. Yet the PP immediately made it about Jewish organizations.

Patently absurd, untrue and indicative of the progressive rot on this issue.

…or Persian Americans have family and friends in Iran. Wow what a concept.

Except that the statement expressly said “victims” (of the US strikes).

What you wish the statement had said is quite different from what it actually said.

The jewish organizations demanded that the LA police apologized for sending the benign text correct?

I believe that 97% of the US population demanded that the police apologize. They got dragged by everyone.

But on DCUM, it’s all about the Jews. Funny that.

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The stats I saw are comparable to blacks and muslims, and again what people report as ‘hate crimes’ may vary based on demographic. Hate crimes against blacks tend to be underreported.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the issue in a nutshell …

The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department was forced to issue an apology recently after a benign tweet expressing concern for the victims and families of the recent war initiated against Iran, and indicating that they are working with partner agencies to monitor the situation locally to ensure the safety of the residents served by their department.

Los Angeles happens to be home to the largest population of Iranian emigres in the U.S., so the tweet made sense from a community awareness perspective. As a point of reference, the same agency has also tweeted (dozens of times over the past two years) expressing similar thoughts and concerns regarding the area’s Jewish community.

But of course … of course … of course … the AIPAC / ADL / Betar / Canary Mission / Laura Loomer / Ben Shapiro / Mark Levin / corrupted members of Congress dream team immediately sprung into action to demand a retraction and apology, with critics focused on the post’s insensitivity to Israel’s interests.

Ultimately, I fail to see how peace is achievable when the interests of one small group continue to be forced center stage at every juncture. And as long as that lack of peace continues, unfortunately, I suspect that individuals like the OP will likely continue to experience some level of fear - through no fault of their own. And that sucks.

Probably not a good idea for a government agency to express concern and sympathy for a country that is engaged in conflict with the United States.

Has nothing to do with Jews or Israel—all about America. The fact that you connect the issue to Jews graphically illustrates the problem.

They were not expressing sympathy for Iran. They were expressing sympathy for Persians in the Los Angeles region. There is kinda a difference.

C’mon. “Our hearts go out to the victims and the families impacted by the recent bombings in Iran.”

“Victims”? Of a US military action directed at Iranian military facilities? With no evidence of any civilian casualties whatsoever?

It was ridiculous for reasons having absolutely nothing to do with Jews. Yet the PP immediately made it about Jewish organizations.

Patently absurd, untrue and indicative of the progressive rot on this issue.

…or Persian Americans have family and friends in Iran. Wow what a concept.

Except that the statement expressly said “victims” (of the US strikes).

What you wish the statement had said is quite different from what it actually said.

It’s not ok to express sympathy for innocent civilians who might have gotten caught up in this? I’m sorry, I disagree with you, and I think you’re parsing words in a way to stay as angry as possible.

I’m not particularly angry about the statement itself, but do think that it was resoundingly stupid.

US law enforcement agencies shouldn’t be sympathizing with “victims” of US military attacks on foreign military installations.

And when that law enforcement agency is criticized, progressives here shouldn’t blame “the Jews” for that criticism. That does make me angry.

Except that its Jewish organizations that are raising a stink over this 🤷🏽‍♀️

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the issue in a nutshell …

The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department was forced to issue an apology recently after a benign tweet expressing concern for the victims and families of the recent war initiated against Iran, and indicating that they are working with partner agencies to monitor the situation locally to ensure the safety of the residents served by their department.

Los Angeles happens to be home to the largest population of Iranian emigres in the U.S., so the tweet made sense from a community awareness perspective. As a point of reference, the same agency has also tweeted (dozens of times over the past two years) expressing similar thoughts and concerns regarding the area’s Jewish community.

But of course … of course … of course … the AIPAC / ADL / Betar / Canary Mission / Laura Loomer / Ben Shapiro / Mark Levin / corrupted members of Congress dream team immediately sprung into action to demand a retraction and apology, with critics focused on the post’s insensitivity to Israel’s interests.

Ultimately, I fail to see how peace is achievable when the interests of one small group continue to be forced center stage at every juncture. And as long as that lack of peace continues, unfortunately, I suspect that individuals like the OP will likely continue to experience some level of fear - through no fault of their own. And that sucks.

Probably not a good idea for a government agency to express concern and sympathy for a country that is engaged in conflict with the United States.

Has nothing to do with Jews or Israel—all about America. The fact that you connect the issue to Jews graphically illustrates the problem.

They were not expressing sympathy for Iran. They were expressing sympathy for Persians in the Los Angeles region. There is kinda a difference.

C’mon. “Our hearts go out to the victims and the families impacted by the recent bombings in Iran.”

“Victims”? Of a US military action directed at Iranian military facilities? With no evidence of any civilian casualties whatsoever?

It was ridiculous for reasons having absolutely nothing to do with Jews. Yet the PP immediately made it about Jewish organizations.

Patently absurd, untrue and indicative of the progressive rot on this issue.

…or Persian Americans have family and friends in Iran. Wow what a concept.

Except that the statement expressly said “victims” (of the US strikes).

What you wish the statement had said is quite different from what it actually said.

The jewish organizations demanded that the LA police apologized for sending the benign text correct?

I believe that 97% of the US population demanded that the police apologize. They got dragged by everyone.

But on DCUM, it’s all about the Jews. Funny that.

97% of the US population asked the LA police to apologize for their statement?

Let’s take a deep breath and regroup, because I would bet money that you don’t actually believe that.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the issue in a nutshell …

The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department was forced to issue an apology recently after a benign tweet expressing concern for the victims and families of the recent war initiated against Iran, and indicating that they are working with partner agencies to monitor the situation locally to ensure the safety of the residents served by their department.

Los Angeles happens to be home to the largest population of Iranian emigres in the U.S., so the tweet made sense from a community awareness perspective. As a point of reference, the same agency has also tweeted (dozens of times over the past two years) expressing similar thoughts and concerns regarding the area’s Jewish community.

But of course … of course … of course … the AIPAC / ADL / Betar / Canary Mission / Laura Loomer / Ben Shapiro / Mark Levin / corrupted members of Congress dream team immediately sprung into action to demand a retraction and apology, with critics focused on the post’s insensitivity to Israel’s interests.

Ultimately, I fail to see how peace is achievable when the interests of one small group continue to be forced center stage at every juncture. And as long as that lack of peace continues, unfortunately, I suspect that individuals like the OP will likely continue to experience some level of fear - through no fault of their own. And that sucks.

Probably not a good idea for a government agency to express concern and sympathy for a country that is engaged in conflict with the United States.

Has nothing to do with Jews or Israel—all about America. The fact that you connect the issue to Jews graphically illustrates the problem.

They were not expressing sympathy for Iran. They were expressing sympathy for Persians in the Los Angeles region. There is kinda a difference.

C’mon. “Our hearts go out to the victims and the families impacted by the recent bombings in Iran.”

“Victims”? Of a US military action directed at Iranian military facilities? With no evidence of any civilian casualties whatsoever?

It was ridiculous for reasons having absolutely nothing to do with Jews. Yet the PP immediately made it about Jewish organizations.

Patently absurd, untrue and indicative of the progressive rot on this issue.

…or Persian Americans have family and friends in Iran. Wow what a concept.

Except that the statement expressly said “victims” (of the US strikes).

What you wish the statement had said is quite different from what it actually said.

The jewish organizations demanded that the LA police apologized for sending the benign text correct?

I believe that 97% of the US population demanded that the police apologize. They got dragged by everyone.

But on DCUM, it’s all about the Jews. Funny that.

97% of the US population asked the LA police to apologize for their statement?

Let’s take a deep breath and regroup, because I would bet money that you don’t actually believe that.[/quote

Illustrative, not literal. Obv

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are American jews statistically more unsafe in the US than other minorities in the US?

From the risk of terrorism? Obviously.

False.

Jewish: 1832/7.2 million people
Muslim: 236/3.45 million people
Sikh: 156/0.30 million people

So… statistically, that would be American Sikhs, which tracks based on my and my family’s experiences here.

Source: https://www.justice.gov/crs/news/2023-hate-crime-statistics
And census data.

Thank you for the stats. People are pretending to be unaware that the more brown one’s skin and the more one deviates from the norm, the higher the risk of a targeted hate crime.

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Anonymous wrote:Jews gravitate towards and support Israel because they want a designated nation to be with their own kind. There exists a kinship like none other. This is somewhat insulting to the rest of us out here in the diaspora. We welcome you but you still feel stronger ties to your own kind. Other ethnicities are called racists and bigots for similar ethnocentric beliefs.

Most older Jews have strong feelings about Israel because they have personal ties to the Holocaust, and before that shtetls in Europe, and after that general antisemitism like not allowing Jews to live in certain neighborhoods, join clubs, etc... This is why support for Israel is greater in older generations of Jews (as well as older politicians like Biden). Younger Jews have not grown up with much antisemitism. It is not because we want to "be with our kind," although I suppose most ethnic groups like this sometimes. It is based in fear and distrust of non-Jews based on history.

That surprises me somewhat. Most of the older Jews I know or knew were politically very liberal, had issues with Israel and its domination by conservative religious Jews, and were not very religious. The type who loved a knish and spoke a smattering of Yiddish Jews but didn’t know most of the holidays. The younger Jews I know are much more observant and tend more towards Zionism, although most don’t think much of Netanyahu. I’m not Jewish but most of my friends and colleagues are, and a chunk of my family.

It’s going to depend on where you are and which Jews you’re talking about. People in general are becoming less religious and non ultra Orthodox Jews are more accepted and don’t just socialize with each other, which is kind of how I was raised. Jewish people all kind of knew each other in my mid sized city. The more observant you are generally the more likely you are to be supportive of Israel. My mother doesn’t love what Israel does but she won’t talk badly about Israel publicly.

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Anonymous wrote:Are American jews statistically more unsafe in the US than other minorities in the US?

From the risk of terrorism? Obviously.

False.

Jewish: 1832/7.2 million people
Muslim: 236/3.45 million people
Sikh: 156/0.30 million people

So… statistically, that would be American Sikhs, which tracks based on my and my family’s experiences here.

Source: https://www.justice.gov/crs/news/2023-hate-crime-statistics
And census data.

So there are people being treated worse than American jewish people.

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Time to not be terrified. Looks like war over and a chance for everyone to get along!!

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Anonymous wrote:Time to not be terrified. Looks like war over and a chance for everyone to get along!!

Praise the Lord Jesus Christ

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Anonymous wrote:I mean historically women, children, brown skinned people, disabled, autistic, lgbtq, have been crucified. What should we do about this? Should each of these categories have their own safe spaces somewhere? Are these groups treated well compared to jewish people in the US?

Did you know!! Jews can be women, children, brown skinned, disabled, lgbtq, and autistic!!

Yes but if we categorize people only based on the above in the current US. It varies, a white jewish man would probably be safer in the inner city at night than a a small autistic white woman correct? Or no? How about a black man verses a white jewish woman in rural white Alabama?

I have no idea what point you are trying to make and not sure I care to figure it out.

Point is that in most settings, most jewish americans appear to be white people, even if they wear a star of David, they are viewed by many as white people. White appearing men, jewish men, don’t strike me as being targets for violent crimes.

Or I should clarify, as far as being targets for violent crimes white american jewish bros tend to be very low risk I would think compared to other groups.

You would think. But you would be wrong, as has been made clear multiple times in this thread. The actual cold hard facts/statistics bear out that Jews are more likely to be victims of hate crimes than members of other groups. And I’m not talking about “criticism of Israel.” That is not a hate crime or a crime of any kind, and the FBI is certainly not categorizing it as such.

Idk why this is so hard for people to grasp. Yes, it may be a harder to immediately discern when someone is Jewish as opposed to black, Asian, etc. But that doesn’t mean Jews are safe or that it’s impossible to target them unless they stand in the middle of the street wearing an “I’m a Jew” sign. Literally millions of Jews were slaughtered despite many of them trying to actively conceal/disavow their identities. And that was in the 1940s!! Before DNA testing, AI, widespread surveillance, total loss of privacy online, all our personal info being stored in databases, etc. And that’s if all Jews go underground and cease to engage in any public expression of their religion whatsoever.

Right. But the kind of antisemitism Jews are dealing with today is not that kind of antisemitism. The GOVERNMENT IS doing and/or trying to do that kind of stuff to some groups--some of whom also happen to be Jewish. But our government is not targeting Jewish people. In fact, as much as I hate our current government and think most of the things they're doing in the name of protecting Jews is complete BS and really just trying to stick it to liberal institutions, you could more argue that they are trying to protect Jews.

The kind of antisemitism Jews are dealing with today is 1. Small number of extremists/crazy people etc.... and 2. Larger group of people who have developed (or always had) negative feelings toward Jews. But that mostly comes out online.

Not yet, but once the J6 ICE incels are done with the Latinos, you can bet the Jews will be next.

Are you here legally? If so why would the government go after legal Americans? This is paranoid thinking.

You do realize that this is already happening right? Maybe you skipped the links provided in this thread?

It is happening to Latinos, and it’s despicable. I am EXTREMELY skeptical that American Jews are going to be deported, however. (As an American Jew, I guess I have a vested interest in thinking this, but still.) We should focus on stopping the bad things that are happening, rather than worrying about imaginary bad things that aren’t going to happen to us.

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Jewish Americans are not going to be deported. Please.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the issue in a nutshell …

The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department was forced to issue an apology recently after a benign tweet expressing concern for the victims and families of the recent war initiated against Iran, and indicating that they are working with partner agencies to monitor the situation locally to ensure the safety of the residents served by their department.

Los Angeles happens to be home to the largest population of Iranian emigres in the U.S., so the tweet made sense from a community awareness perspective. As a point of reference, the same agency has also tweeted (dozens of times over the past two years) expressing similar thoughts and concerns regarding the area’s Jewish community.

But of course … of course … of course … the AIPAC / ADL / Betar / Canary Mission / Laura Loomer / Ben Shapiro / Mark Levin / corrupted members of Congress dream team immediately sprung into action to demand a retraction and apology, with critics focused on the post’s insensitivity to Israel’s interests.

Ultimately, I fail to see how peace is achievable when the interests of one small group continue to be forced center stage at every juncture. And as long as that lack of peace continues, unfortunately, I suspect that individuals like the OP will likely continue to experience some level of fear - through no fault of their own. And that sucks.

Probably not a good idea for a government agency to express concern and sympathy for a country that is engaged in conflict with the United States.

Has nothing to do with Jews or Israel—all about America. The fact that you connect the issue to Jews graphically illustrates the problem.

Our elected officials have made
it abundantly clear that said conflict (which we initiated by bombing sites this weekend, mind you) is borne of our defense of Israel’s interests. You can pretend all you want that it has nothing to do with Israel and Zionist agitation for the U.S. to do Israel’s bidding, but I’ll continue to choose living in reality.

Also, there was no expression of concern or sympathy for the country of Iran. There was an expression of concern for harmed civilians and their loved ones here in the U.S. You know, the kind of compassion that normal people experience when others are suffering.

1/10 but the 1 for effort feels like charity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.

I am not Jewish, but I have many Jewish friends. Not a single one of them feels scared. Where do you live, OP? Maybe my friends and I live in a bubble, I don't know. None of them has felt anti-semitism personally, at least not that I know about. I have some Jewish ancestors, but I'm not Jewish. I can't begin to understand anti-semitism. It seems like a made-up thing by the Trump exterminators to use to crush immigrants. I hope you feel better OP. I don't think you're in danger.

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OP, the full might of our federal government has been reorganized to basically function as a DEI wrecking ball for the radical Zionist movement, targeting individuals and entities that meet the ridiculously low standard for anti-semitism that has been defined by the ADL or whatever.

Seems like it’s non-Jews who have more of a reason to be terrified right now.