NoVa area prestige ranking

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Anonymous wrote:I always thought of del ray as an urban, crime infested place. Don't people get stabbed, mugged, and murdered there? Not being mean...just my thoughts...

No. Too white.

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Anonymous wrote:I think a zip code ranking is more precise:

1. 22066 - Great Falls
2. 22101 - McLean
3. 22027- Dunn Loring (Up and coming with all the new builds)
4. 22207 - North Arlington
5. 22124 - Oakton
6. 22039 - Fairfax Station
7. 20124 - Clifton - Yup. CLIFTON is nice!
8. 22182- Vienna/Tysons area
9. 22181- Vienna
10. 20148 - Ashburn

Bottom Tier:

1. 22041- Bailey's Crossroads
2. 22044 - Lake Barcroft/Seven Corners
3. 22305 - Del Ray
4. 22304 - Landmark
5. 22312 - Lincolnia (Alexandria)

Are you some Marshall High poster trying to make fetch happen? There was a recent schools thread where OP tried to claim Marshall was a "Tier 1" NoVa public (sorry, but no) and here you are claiming Dunn Loring/22027 (which is very small, hemmed in by the Beltway, and hasn't seen a house crack $2M over the past year) is an up and coming area and the third nicest in NoVa, while ignoring McLean/22102 and Vienna/22180.

Just stop.

Isn’t the poster just going by home prices? I know in Vienna 22182 (which covers Tyson’s by also big houses near Wolftrap, homes near route 7 towards Toll Rd) does have $$$ homes. Not all are Marshall actually-some go to Madison, some Langley. Dunn Loring-some goes to Marshall, some Falls Church HS.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of fun reading these responses.

Right? I needed a break from Politics and College. This is classic DCUM. Lol

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Nothing about NoVa is prestigious

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Anonymous wrote:Del Ray used to be cool and arty and then it sold out. Now it is a wanna-be old town and as boring as a suburb but with poorer schools.

Is there a grand conspiracy going on where every thread about NoVA somehow turns into a Del Ray hate fest?

It's part of the broader conspiracy to denigrate all neighborhoods South of Rte 50 which was historically the dividing line between white and black areas. This idiotic exercise is a dog whistle for whites-only neighborhoods.

Del ray and route 50 have little to no connection.

Also, most of Del ray is a historically white area.

Interestingly, a lot of what is regarded as old town now was historically black and very poor. Old timers in Alexandria took a LONG time, maybe the 80s before warming up to the idea that old town had changed.

Del Ray is South of Rte 50 last time I checked.

So is Florida, what’s your f’ing point?

My point is that you obviously don't understand the effect historic segregation lines continue to have on Northern VA real estate dynamics. Del Ray will never be valued the way communities north of Rte 50 are because regardless of county, neighborhoods South of 50 are more heavily populated with minorities--initially blacks and later other immigrant groups. This has always makes the schools less desirable to white buyers. Del Ray can't escape its poor geographic position.

You obviously know nothing about the history of the area.

North/south of 50 is irrelevant.

Del Ray is no where close to route 50.

All of Alexandria is south of Route 50.

And so on.

You're the one who doesn't understand the history of this area. The area South of Rte 50 was historically more populated with African Americans. There's a whole PBS or NPR special about that road being a dividing line of segregation. Alexandria was a slave market. You can't escape that history, even if modern-day Del Ray may be considered a charming enclave by a certain segment of the Nova population. But it's hardly prestigious. Honestly, the entire DMV suffers from a bit of a second class reputation vs. historically wealthier industrial and commercial cities around the nation.

Del Ray is the most sought after area in all of NOVA, with the possible exception of Old Town. You really have no clue what you are talking about. And nobody cares that some commie left wing radio station told you othereise.

This thread isn't about practical, well connected and generally nice areas, and personal preferences. Nobody looking for prestige *specifically* has Del Ray on their radar. :lol: Personally, I like it, but I am not from here. There is some ugly housing and what looks like low income apartments, so maybe that's what drags it down together with schools? There is nothing more special about it than Arlington, or some parts of MOCO, and for 900K I can get a small rowhouse in DC premium areas that beat Del Ray any day.

Competition for top dollar buyer with deep pockets to spend millions is not going to happen in this type of areas, it's not going to be full of urban mansions like Kalorama or Gtown or some parts of NWDC, and because of small lots, proximity to lower income areas, and the above (fugly apartment buildings and duplexes) big $$$$ SFH construction is unlikely to come there either.

Nobody serious wants to live in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Del Ray used to be cool and arty and then it sold out. Now it is a wanna-be old town and as boring as a suburb but with poorer schools.

Is there a grand conspiracy going on where every thread about NoVA somehow turns into a Del Ray hate fest?

It's part of the broader conspiracy to denigrate all neighborhoods South of Rte 50 which was historically the dividing line between white and black areas. This idiotic exercise is a dog whistle for whites-only neighborhoods.

Del ray and route 50 have little to no connection.

Also, most of Del ray is a historically white area.

Interestingly, a lot of what is regarded as old town now was historically black and very poor. Old timers in Alexandria took a LONG time, maybe the 80s before warming up to the idea that old town had changed.

Del Ray is South of Rte 50 last time I checked.

So is Florida, what’s your f’ing point?

My point is that you obviously don't understand the effect historic segregation lines continue to have on Northern VA real estate dynamics. Del Ray will never be valued the way communities north of Rte 50 are because regardless of county, neighborhoods South of 50 are more heavily populated with minorities--initially blacks and later other immigrant groups. This has always makes the schools less desirable to white buyers. Del Ray can't escape its poor geographic position.

You obviously know nothing about the history of the area.

North/south of 50 is irrelevant.

Del Ray is no where close to route 50.

All of Alexandria is south of Route 50.

And so on.

You're the one who doesn't understand the history of this area. The area South of Rte 50 was historically more populated with African Americans. There's a whole PBS or NPR special about that road being a dividing line of segregation. Alexandria was a slave market. You can't escape that history, even if modern-day Del Ray may be considered a charming enclave by a certain segment of the Nova population. But it's hardly prestigious. Honestly, the entire DMV suffers from a bit of a second class reputation vs. historically wealthier industrial and commercial cities around the nation.

Del Ray is the most sought after area in all of NOVA, with the possible exception of Old Town. You really have no clue what you are talking about. And nobody cares that some commie left wing radio station told you othereise.

This thread isn't about practical, well connected and generally nice areas, and personal preferences. Nobody looking for prestige *specifically* has Del Ray on their radar. :lol: Personally, I like it, but I am not from here. There is some ugly housing and what looks like low income apartments, so maybe that's what drags it down together with schools? There is nothing more special about it than Arlington, or some parts of MOCO, and for 900K I can get a small rowhouse in DC premium areas that beat Del Ray any day.

Competition for top dollar buyer with deep pockets to spend millions is not going to happen in this type of areas, it's not going to be full of urban mansions like Kalorama or Gtown or some parts of NWDC, and because of small lots, proximity to lower income areas, and the above (fugly apartment buildings and duplexes) big $$$$ SFH construction is unlikely to come there either.

Nobody serious wants to live in DC.

I guess Obama, Jeff Bezos, Jared Kushner are not serious

Nova is for strivers

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Anonymous wrote:Del Ray used to be cool and arty and then it sold out. Now it is a wanna-be old town and as boring as a suburb but with poorer schools.

Is there a grand conspiracy going on where every thread about NoVA somehow turns into a Del Ray hate fest?

It's part of the broader conspiracy to denigrate all neighborhoods South of Rte 50 which was historically the dividing line between white and black areas. This idiotic exercise is a dog whistle for whites-only neighborhoods.

Del ray and route 50 have little to no connection.

Also, most of Del ray is a historically white area.

Interestingly, a lot of what is regarded as old town now was historically black and very poor. Old timers in Alexandria took a LONG time, maybe the 80s before warming up to the idea that old town had changed.

Del Ray is South of Rte 50 last time I checked.

So is Florida, what’s your f’ing point?

My point is that you obviously don't understand the effect historic segregation lines continue to have on Northern VA real estate dynamics. Del Ray will never be valued the way communities north of Rte 50 are because regardless of county, neighborhoods South of 50 are more heavily populated with minorities--initially blacks and later other immigrant groups. This has always makes the schools less desirable to white buyers. Del Ray can't escape its poor geographic position.

You obviously know nothing about the history of the area.

North/south of 50 is irrelevant.

Del Ray is no where close to route 50.

All of Alexandria is south of Route 50.

And so on.

You're the one who doesn't understand the history of this area. The area South of Rte 50 was historically more populated with African Americans. There's a whole PBS or NPR special about that road being a dividing line of segregation. Alexandria was a slave market. You can't escape that history, even if modern-day Del Ray may be considered a charming enclave by a certain segment of the Nova population. But it's hardly prestigious. Honestly, the entire DMV suffers from a bit of a second class reputation vs. historically wealthier industrial and commercial cities around the nation.

Del Ray is the most sought after area in all of NOVA, with the possible exception of Old Town. You really have no clue what you are talking about. And nobody cares that some commie left wing radio station told you othereise.

This thread isn't about practical, well connected and generally nice areas, and personal preferences. Nobody looking for prestige *specifically* has Del Ray on their radar. :lol: Personally, I like it, but I am not from here. There is some ugly housing and what looks like low income apartments, so maybe that's what drags it down together with schools? There is nothing more special about it than Arlington, or some parts of MOCO, and for 900K I can get a small rowhouse in DC premium areas that beat Del Ray any day.

Competition for top dollar buyer with deep pockets to spend millions is not going to happen in this type of areas, it's not going to be full of urban mansions like Kalorama or Gtown or some parts of NWDC, and because of small lots, proximity to lower income areas, and the above (fugly apartment buildings and duplexes) big $$$$ SFH construction is unlikely to come there either.

Nobody serious wants to live in DC.

I guess Obama, Jeff Bezos, Jared Kushner are not serious

Nova is for strivers

So? Those guys are losers with ugly wives.

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Anonymous wrote:Del Ray used to be cool and arty and then it sold out. Now it is a wanna-be old town and as boring as a suburb but with poorer schools.

Is there a grand conspiracy going on where every thread about NoVA somehow turns into a Del Ray hate fest?

It's part of the broader conspiracy to denigrate all neighborhoods South of Rte 50 which was historically the dividing line between white and black areas. This idiotic exercise is a dog whistle for whites-only neighborhoods.

Del ray and route 50 have little to no connection.

Also, most of Del ray is a historically white area.

Interestingly, a lot of what is regarded as old town now was historically black and very poor. Old timers in Alexandria took a LONG time, maybe the 80s before warming up to the idea that old town had changed.

Del Ray is South of Rte 50 last time I checked.

So is Florida, what’s your f’ing point?

My point is that you obviously don't understand the effect historic segregation lines continue to have on Northern VA real estate dynamics. Del Ray will never be valued the way communities north of Rte 50 are because regardless of county, neighborhoods South of 50 are more heavily populated with minorities--initially blacks and later other immigrant groups. This has always makes the schools less desirable to white buyers. Del Ray can't escape its poor geographic position.

You obviously know nothing about the history of the area.

North/south of 50 is irrelevant.

Del Ray is no where close to route 50.

All of Alexandria is south of Route 50.

And so on.

You're the one who doesn't understand the history of this area. The area South of Rte 50 was historically more populated with African Americans. There's a whole PBS or NPR special about that road being a dividing line of segregation. Alexandria was a slave market. You can't escape that history, even if modern-day Del Ray may be considered a charming enclave by a certain segment of the Nova population. But it's hardly prestigious. Honestly, the entire DMV suffers from a bit of a second class reputation vs. historically wealthier industrial and commercial cities around the nation.

You can’t remember if you were listening to the radio or watching TV and your account of this program is supposed to be taken seriously?

Del Ray is no where near 50 and all of Alexandria is south of 50. 50 is a meaningless boundary in an Alexandria context. Perhaps you’re thinking of Arlington?

Del Ray was historically white. Primarily working class and middle class. As you move up toward Rosemont, the residents got more well-heeled. Del Ray was so white that it was actually a redline area and there were restrictive covenants in place.

George Washington Middle School was the white high school and its near del ray.

Hammond middle school was the black one and it’s over on the west end.

Don’t come at me with your idiotic accounts of Alexandria history. You have no clue.

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Anonymous wrote:Del Ray used to be cool and arty and then it sold out. Now it is a wanna-be old town and as boring as a suburb but with poorer schools.

Is there a grand conspiracy going on where every thread about NoVA somehow turns into a Del Ray hate fest?

It's part of the broader conspiracy to denigrate all neighborhoods South of Rte 50 which was historically the dividing line between white and black areas. This idiotic exercise is a dog whistle for whites-only neighborhoods.

Del ray and route 50 have little to no connection.

Also, most of Del ray is a historically white area.

Interestingly, a lot of what is regarded as old town now was historically black and very poor. Old timers in Alexandria took a LONG time, maybe the 80s before warming up to the idea that old town had changed.

Del Ray is South of Rte 50 last time I checked.

So is Florida, what’s your f’ing point?

My point is that you obviously don't understand the effect historic segregation lines continue to have on Northern VA real estate dynamics. Del Ray will never be valued the way communities north of Rte 50 are because regardless of county, neighborhoods South of 50 are more heavily populated with minorities--initially blacks and later other immigrant groups. This has always makes the schools less desirable to white buyers. Del Ray can't escape its poor geographic position.

You obviously know nothing about the history of the area.

North/south of 50 is irrelevant.

Del Ray is no where close to route 50.

All of Alexandria is south of Route 50.

And so on.

You're the one who doesn't understand the history of this area. The area South of Rte 50 was historically more populated with African Americans. There's a whole PBS or NPR special about that road being a dividing line of segregation. Alexandria was a slave market. You can't escape that history, even if modern-day Del Ray may be considered a charming enclave by a certain segment of the Nova population. But it's hardly prestigious. Honestly, the entire DMV suffers from a bit of a second class reputation vs. historically wealthier industrial and commercial cities around the nation.

And further on your idiocy, Rte 50 is the dividing line between north Arlington and south Arlington.

North Arlington has always been more white than south Arlington.

You should thank your teacher for schooling you.

Have a nice day.

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I don't get McLean. Schools yes but location and anything fun there? Good god no. But I'm a city girl. But not from DC. I hate the whole of DMV and as much as I prefer MD Bethesda area to NOVA, I honestly prefer living in NOVA for convenience and work opportunities. I'm in the Del Ray area and yeah, it's white! I mean I always crack up because it's so liberal and all about DEI here but I look around and I see all white people 98% around me. I'm the token DEI here!

I do however think living in Del Ray area is an awesome location. I prefer it over McLean. I think Arlington is def tier 1 and although everyone loves N Arl, I like S Arl for more fun. I get Great Falls and why McLean is top rated. As much as I love Old Town it's not convenient to anything but Old Town/Alex.

For me, it can't just be about housing location and schools. There's got to be conveniences - food, shopping, etc. I would be bored out of my mind living in McLean, Vienna, etc. as much as I'd hate to be out so far, I find Ashburn and Leesburg more interesting than Centreville or Sterling. As a whole though NOVA is boring.

I'm more Manhattan/Chicago.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get McLean. Schools yes but location and anything fun there? Good god no. But I'm a city girl. But not from DC. I hate the whole of DMV and as much as I prefer MD Bethesda area to NOVA, I honestly prefer living in NOVA for convenience and work opportunities. I'm in the Del Ray area and yeah, it's white! I mean I always crack up because it's so liberal and all about DEI here but I look around and I see all white people 98% around me. I'm the token DEI here!

I do however think living in Del Ray area is an awesome location. I prefer it over McLean. I think Arlington is def tier 1 and although everyone loves N Arl, I like S Arl for more fun. I get Great Falls and why McLean is top rated. As much as I love Old Town it's not convenient to anything but Old Town/Alex.

For me, it can't just be about housing location and schools. There's got to be conveniences - food, shopping, etc. I would be bored out of my mind living in McLean, Vienna, etc. as much as I'd hate to be out so far, I find Ashburn and Leesburg more interesting than Centreville or Sterling. As a whole though NOVA is boring.

I'm more Manhattan/Chicago.

This added nothing to the conversation other than your desire to move away to a more prestigious city.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get McLean. Schools yes but location and anything fun there? Good god no. But I'm a city girl. But not from DC. I hate the whole of DMV and as much as I prefer MD Bethesda area to NOVA, I honestly prefer living in NOVA for convenience and work opportunities. I'm in the Del Ray area and yeah, it's white! I mean I always crack up because it's so liberal and all about DEI here but I look around and I see all white people 98% around me. I'm the token DEI here!

I do however think living in Del Ray area is an awesome location. I prefer it over McLean. I think Arlington is def tier 1 and although everyone loves N Arl, I like S Arl for more fun. I get Great Falls and why McLean is top rated. As much as I love Old Town it's not convenient to anything but Old Town/Alex.

For me, it can't just be about housing location and schools. There's got to be conveniences - food, shopping, etc. I would be bored out of my mind living in McLean, Vienna, etc. as much as I'd hate to be out so far, I find Ashburn and Leesburg more interesting than Centreville or Sterling. As a whole though NOVA is boring.

I'm more Manhattan/Chicago.

Manhattan/Chicago also have suburbs. Do you get their suburbs?

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just spitballing here, but that little row sandwiched between chain bridge road and the river (in, Arlington?, its near the line) probably should be number 1 on your list.

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Is there one poster who keeps pimping Del Ray as a nice area?

Like, it is not even in the running for any part Virginia considered desirable.

That is like saying Annandale is sought after; and no offense to Annandale- you are probably higher in the prestige scale than Alexandria and del ray.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there one poster who keeps pimping Del Ray as a nice area?

Like, it is not even in the running for any part Virginia considered desirable.

That is like saying Annandale is sought after; and no offense to Annandale- you are probably higher in the prestige scale than Alexandria and del ray.

You lose a lot of credibility if you say Annandale is nicer than Del Ray, let alone all of Alexandria.