Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats don't have a snowball's chance in hell because the oligarchs they take orders from are the ones who are pushing all of the policies that normal Americans find repulsive. Democrats cannot retreat from these losing positions because then the flow of money from these oligarchs will stop.

For instance, the Pritzker billionaire who now goes by "Jennifer" was a Republican donor for over 30 years before he came out as an alleged "woman" in his 60s. At that point, as he himself has said on the record, all of his money was not enough to stop Republicans from marginalizing him out of disgust. He then crossed over to the Democratic side of the aisle, where he found people even more morally bankrupt than Republicans who are willing to help men take over women's spaces and push transgenderism for money. He is a democratic donor literally for one reason and one reason only: to push his personal fetish and give it the force of law.

So, Democrats are trapped. If they drop all of the horrible agendas they've been pushing, they might win over society, but their oligarch funding will disappear. If they keep pushing all of this madness to keep the money coming from the deeply unwell billionaires funding various agendas, voters will continue to say no thank you.

Selling out has its down side!

The political landscape you describe was the same in 2020 and still yet the GOP incumbent nominee LOST to a 77 year old clown. I don't have high expectations for any Trump endorsed GOP idiot in 2028. It's called common sense. Find some.

"Common sense" holds that, because of 2020, Democrats can win in 2028 on a platform that had them losing all seven swing states in 2024? Interesting.

Exactly. Common sense says Jan 6 should have been a disqualifier but here we are.

If we do a better job reminding voters about J6 than we should have a far better result in 2028.

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Anonymous wrote:Whitmer is out.

She's sucking up to Trump to deliver Michigan to the GOP.

https://www.newsweek.com/gretchen-whitmer-selfridge-air-base-trump-2066002

That photo - her makeup and hair reminds me of Kristi Noem. There are subtle differences in that photo from Whitmer’s usual look.

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Anonymous wrote:Buttigieg or Shapiro

I love Pete but the country is not ready for him. Osoff or Shapiro.

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Anonymous wrote:Whitmer is out.

She's sucking up to Trump to deliver Michigan to the GOP.

https://www.newsweek.com/gretchen-whitmer-selfridge-air-base-trump-2066002

That photo - her makeup and hair reminds me of Kristi Noem. There are subtle differences in that photo from Whitmer’s usual look.

Her hair and make-up are much more appealing than Trump's hair and make-up.

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Anonymous wrote:It needs to be a white male. And not Newsome.

There are far too many misogynists and we're clearly not ready for a female POTUS in America.

Please stop with this crap. Someone like Giorgia Meloni would win by a landslide in the US, that is, someone who is centrist on social issues, has charisma, and is tough on immigration and crime. Unfortunately the Dems have no one like this. It’s not a “woman” issue.

100% its actually not the candidate as much as much as what they represent - the democrats could have won the last election is they hadn't been completely asleep at the wheel about immigration - why is is so hard for the democrats to just take a reasonable but somewhat tough position on immigration?

Hmmm.... There was an unprecedented circumstance during the 2024 election cycle when the very unpopular incumbent backed out the race 3 months prior to Election Day and then the VP of that very unpopular incumbent was appointed as the nominee by the party committee as opposed to being nominated through the primary process.

Sure, the immigration issue was an effective talking point for the GOP but the much more obvious reason for the Dem's loss to a relatively weak opponent is the fallout from the incumbent's late exit from the race creating a no-win situation. Biden and his immigration policies are gone. Get over it.

When the next Obama, Clinton, or Reagan steps up, you'll quickly remember what makes for a good POTUS candidate and a successful two term POTUS is 99% about the charisma, leadership ability, and communication skills of the individual. A candidate or POTUS who takes a rigid stance on a single issue that is in conflict with what a vast majority of Americans agree with, does not have presidential leadership skills.

The vast majority of Americans want secured borders and a sensible immigration policy that limits illegal immigration while having reasonable levels of legal immigration. I am still trying to find the group of voters that would stop voting democrat if that was the democrat position on that issue. You can talk about charisma, leadership etc but if democrats don't modify their hardline positions on these losing issues then they will continue to lose.

You're confusing Joe Biden's immigration strategy or lack there of with the wishes of 99% of Dem voters and other Dem politicians. Obama and Clinton had a common sense approach to prevent the number of new immigrants from exceeding what our system can handle within a given time frame. Dems didn't know Biden was going to immediately remove all band-aid policies in place to control the flow of new arrivals and then do next to nothing for two years while presumably waiting for our pathetic Congress to take action.

Biden is long gone. Get over it. Our current president's number campaign agenda was to address the long standing immigration/border issue. By 2028, we will either have had sensible immigration reform passed through Congress or Trump will be to blame for not properly addressing his number one campaign promise. Either way, you better find another talking point to ridicule Dem policies because immigration will either be a back burner issue or it will be GOP candidates that have to answer to Trump's failures on immigration. See how that works? Welcome to politics.

People aren’t technocrats, they are emotional. Most voters want closed borders and mass deportations. Democratic politicians are trying to thwart the voters’ wishes. They want Kilmar! This will hurt democrats at the ballot box regardless of the state of the border in 2028.

NO. Mass deportation of CRIMINAL illegals, not the couple that’s run the corner store in NJ for 40 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Andy Beshear is the one!

Yeah. Beshear or Cooper over Osoff or Shapiro. More cross over appeal, plus Cooper has never lost an election.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats don't have a snowball's chance in hell because the oligarchs they take orders from are the ones who are pushing all of the policies that normal Americans find repulsive. Democrats cannot retreat from these losing positions because then the flow of money from these oligarchs will stop.

For instance, the Pritzker billionaire who now goes by "Jennifer" was a Republican donor for over 30 years before he came out as an alleged "woman" in his 60s. At that point, as he himself has said on the record, all of his money was not enough to stop Republicans from marginalizing him out of disgust. He then crossed over to the Democratic side of the aisle, where he found people even more morally bankrupt than Republicans who are willing to help men take over women's spaces and push transgenderism for money. He is a democratic donor literally for one reason and one reason only: to push his personal fetish and give it the force of law.

So, Democrats are trapped. If they drop all of the horrible agendas they've been pushing, they might win over society, but their oligarch funding will disappear. If they keep pushing all of this madness to keep the money coming from the deeply unwell billionaires funding various agendas, voters will continue to say no thank you.

Selling out has its down side!

The political landscape you describe was the same in 2020 and still yet the GOP incumbent nominee LOST to a 77 year old clown. I don't have high expectations for any Trump endorsed GOP idiot in 2028. It's called common sense. Find some.

"Common sense" holds that, because of 2020, Democrats can win in 2028 on a platform that had them losing all seven swing states in 2024? Interesting.

Exactly. Common sense says Jan 6 should have been a disqualifier but here we are.

If we do a better job reminding voters about J6 than we should have a far better result in 2028.

It's what could happen between now and 2028 that is concerning to most. I appreciate Trump's anti-war stance but if the country is attacked on our soil, our Commander-in-Chief can't cower in the corner and do nothing for three hours like Trump did on J6. I'd like for Trump to continue to try his best to keep us out of war but if a mob of people storm our US Capitol or The Pentagon, he's got to step up to defend the country this time.

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Anonymous wrote:I like Rahm. He is super confident, and as sharp and mean as any R, and I think that is what's needed. Beshear is too soft. Pritzker isn't attractive enough. Everybody hates Pete.

You mean the other candidates are jealous of Pete’s skills at fundraising, debating, PR and leadership. We the people LOVE Pete!

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Hmmmmmmn he seems interesting.

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Hmmmmmmn he seems interesting.

I like him, too!

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Anonymous wrote:As long as the Dems kick out all the moderates they will win. No more Schumer or other Vichy democrats.

The “moderates” are the reason we are here. If the Dems push the same old moderates out it shows they want the status quo.

No more hiring behind senate rules like the filibuster. Law and order need to be aggressively reestablished. Trump, his family, maga, corrupt judiciary, DOJ, etc must be punished.

As a dem, I do not support this. Enough with extremes. This county will go bipolar if we keep swinging far right and far left, it’s a terrible terrible idea. What we need is moderates on both sides.

lol you live is a fantasy world. There are no moderates on the Republican side. Disarming and throwing yourself on the none existent mercy of maga is a fools game. That is what you do when you vote for moderates. Remember how the democrats controlled the senate but were unable to even investigate SCOTUS’s corruption? That was moderates in action.

For democracy to work both sides must believe in it. The republicans do not believe in it. So go vote for Schumer, Joe Manchin, Kyrsten Sinema, etc. you will be putting the nail in your own coffin.

The moderate Biden approach failed. The country needs fighter not appeasers.

Joe lost the election because he lost his marbles, not because he is a moderate.

DP. A little of both. It’s clear that the name of the game is populism. He did nothing, perhaps because he wasn’t all there, and seeing Trump do so much really just underscores it.

Well, a puppet can do a lot with a vigorous hand in the right place, so, sure.

Biden had his own handlers, they just weren’t interested in any real change. We all saw him sundowning on national television

Hey, it's 2025. Catch up.

Biden's one of the most successful presidents ever, and Democrats want nothing to do with him.

Exactly. Americans of both parties are dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Hopefully none of those mentioned. We need moderates, it’s a landslide if you put up a moderate.

She’s not my favor but Whitmer is a moderate and she’s mentioned right there in the thread title. She won by 11 points in a swing state.

The Right will never elect a woman. We need someone who can win Red states.

Dems don't need red states to win a POTUS election. They need a few purple states. Whitmer is a multi-term Governor of a purple state you sexist two-bit fool.

Wow. I’ve never been insulted quite like that. FWIW, I’m a female Dem who worked on the campaigns but I saw Trump’s victories coming in ‘16 and ‘24, and a large part of it is due to know-it-all Dems. You must be a peach.

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Anonymous wrote:Hopefully none of those mentioned. We need moderates, it’s a landslide if you put up a moderate.

She’s not my favor but Whitmer is a moderate and she’s mentioned right there in the thread title. She won by 11 points in a swing state.

The Right will never elect a woman. We need someone who can win Red states.

Dems don't need red states to win a POTUS election. They need a few purple states. Whitmer is a multi-term Governor of a purple state you sexist two-bit fool.

Wow. I’ve never been insulted quite like that. FWIW, I’m a female Dem who worked on the campaigns but I saw Trump’s victories coming in ‘16 and ‘24, and a large part of it is due to know-it-all Dems. You must be a peach.

If you're truly a female and worked on political campaigns, you should first of all know the difference between red and purple states and second of all, you should know better than to insult every other woman in the world with your 1950s view of women.

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Who is the most savage Democrat available? That's who I want.

I want someone with a 'give no fks' attitude. I want them to rule only through EOs. I want someone who will declare MAGA as domestic terrorists & round them up to ship off to another country. I want their social media team to use the official accounts to post unhinged things with captions like CRY HARDER.

I don't want someone who will play nice with the other side. Fk that. We played nice for decades and look where it got us? The GOP put Trump in and opened the door for revenge politics to be on the front burner, so I want someone who will embrace that sh!t. Give me someone who will grill Musky so hard that he's unable to catch his breath from all the crying. I want to see his mommy come back to social media to tell the public to be nicer to him...and then the public rip her to shreds.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is the most savage Democrat available? That's who I want.

I want someone with a 'give no fks' attitude. I want them to rule only through EOs. I want someone who will declare MAGA as domestic terrorists & round them up to ship off to another country. I want their social media team to use the official accounts to post unhinged things with captions like CRY HARDER.

I don't want someone who will play nice with the other side. Fk that. We played nice for decades and look where it got us? The GOP put Trump in and opened the door for revenge politics to be on the front burner, so I want someone who will embrace that sh!t. Give me someone who will grill Musky so hard that he's unable to catch his breath from all the crying. I want to see his mommy come back to social media to tell the public to be nicer to him...and then the public rip her to shreds.

You won't like the answer, but Dems have exactly one person like this and his name is Cuomo.