Teen son ate an entire large container of Whole Foods smoked mozzarella pasta salad

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Anonymous wrote:We started marking food in the fridge with tape when our teenage son needs to leave it alone. If it has tape on it, he can only take one small serving. A year in and so far, this is working.

This is so bizarre. Just buy more food.

I guess to you it is bizarre! He can have anything else in the fridge, but if we have leftovers of a meal I cooked that everyone loves, he gets one share of that and everyone else gets a share too. There is plenty of other stuff and he knows how to cook meals as well. It is working for us- he learns he can’t just take all of everyone’s favorite foods and should be aware others want it too. He is also able to eat when he is hungry, just not other people’s food they are also looking forward to.

We have plenty of food, but no I’m not doubling up on cooking meals and doing twice the dishes (some things only fit in certain pots/dishes) so he gets to eat whatever he wants.

Jesus Christ. Just make more food when you make these amazing meals you doofus. Your doubling up on dishes excuse as to why you refuse to cook bigger portions is extremely lame and doesn’t make sense. (Cook the food in a bigger pot maybe?) Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Hahaha are you really writing here to tell me how to cook food?
Sorry everyone- thought we had a solution that works for us and might work for others. Clearly that isn’t you PP! Congrats on telling me off!

I mean, you’re either incompetent or you resent your own son. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I’m guessing you’ll be one of those confused women someday who doesn’t understand why your son spends most of his holidays with his in-laws. Enjoy!

NP. You sound insane.

Also NP.People write the wildest fan fiction on here to work out their inner fears and demons.

Yeah, it’s super wild that a son might grow up and not be close to his miserly mother who thinks he’s an entitled glutton for eating more food than she does during one of the biggest growth periods of his life.

That’s not what she said. She said she ensures there are portions left for other family members. We do the same so we can use the leftovers for another meal. The kid can snack on something else.

LOL. She also said she absolutely refuses to cook MORE of the food her whole family wants to eat MORE of, but instead weirdly tapes off tiny portions of leftovers.

Like I said, she’s incompetent.

DP who hasn’t posted in this thread for many days. I really don’t see your perspective here. The pp — who to my understanding is not the OP — came up with a system that works for her family and for her kid. It actually seems like a pretty good system to me (and I am so totally NOT an almond mom — I happen to think op has big issues).

Her excuses are dumb. Sorry. She should have left off the BS about how she can only cook chicken or pasta (or whatever) in one pot and therefore she would have to do TWICE the number of dishes (the horror!) if she cooked more food whenever she cooks if she didn’t want anyone to point out that she sounds almost as ridiculous as OP.

I don’t experience her that way. I really don’t get you.

+1 I also don’t want to cook twice the food either. I make enough for our family of 4 and usually have some leftovers. But I’m not doubling the recipe to get even more leftovers.

Why? If it gets eaten it’s less work that cooking another meal. If you can afford Whole Foods you can buy another pot.
In our house we have “scavenger’s meal” once a week where we all create meals from various leftovers and things in the fridge. It’s actually fun and a way to reduce food waste. I never worry about cooking too much

When you have three kids in the house, and the kids have different favorite meals, if the oldest teenage boy consistently eats all the left overs and his younger brother and sister get upset that they don’t have their favorite during “various leftover day,” is that fair?
What lesson is being learned by all the kids? What if one of the kids has autism or allergies or doesn’t like things spicy and that teenage boy ate all of the allergen free or lower spice food. Is that okay? Do the kids learn that whoever has the biggest appetite wins? Or that in a family, you look out after only yourself? Or should they be taught to leave some for others?

Families are different and make different choices.

Wow. Sounds like you’re raising three entitled kids when it comes to food while lecturing everyone else about their hungry teenage boys.

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Anonymous wrote:We started marking food in the fridge with tape when our teenage son needs to leave it alone. If it has tape on it, he can only take one small serving. A year in and so far, this is working.

This is so bizarre. Just buy more food.

I guess to you it is bizarre! He can have anything else in the fridge, but if we have leftovers of a meal I cooked that everyone loves, he gets one share of that and everyone else gets a share too. There is plenty of other stuff and he knows how to cook meals as well. It is working for us- he learns he can’t just take all of everyone’s favorite foods and should be aware others want it too. He is also able to eat when he is hungry, just not other people’s food they are also looking forward to.

We have plenty of food, but no I’m not doubling up on cooking meals and doing twice the dishes (some things only fit in certain pots/dishes) so he gets to eat whatever he wants.

Jesus Christ. Just make more food when you make these amazing meals you doofus. Your doubling up on dishes excuse as to why you refuse to cook bigger portions is extremely lame and doesn’t make sense. (Cook the food in a bigger pot maybe?) Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Hahaha are you really writing here to tell me how to cook food?
Sorry everyone- thought we had a solution that works for us and might work for others. Clearly that isn’t you PP! Congrats on telling me off!

I mean, you’re either incompetent or you resent your own son. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I’m guessing you’ll be one of those confused women someday who doesn’t understand why your son spends most of his holidays with his in-laws. Enjoy!

NP. You sound insane.

Also NP.People write the wildest fan fiction on here to work out their inner fears and demons.

Yeah, it’s super wild that a son might grow up and not be close to his miserly mother who thinks he’s an entitled glutton for eating more food than she does during one of the biggest growth periods of his life.

That’s not what she said. She said she ensures there are portions left for other family members. We do the same so we can use the leftovers for another meal. The kid can snack on something else.

LOL. She also said she absolutely refuses to cook MORE of the food her whole family wants to eat MORE of, but instead weirdly tapes off tiny portions of leftovers.

Like I said, she’s incompetent.

DP who hasn’t posted in this thread for many days. I really don’t see your perspective here. The pp — who to my understanding is not the OP — came up with a system that works for her family and for her kid. It actually seems like a pretty good system to me (and I am so totally NOT an almond mom — I happen to think op has big issues).

Her excuses are dumb. Sorry. She should have left off the BS about how she can only cook chicken or pasta (or whatever) in one pot and therefore she would have to do TWICE the number of dishes (the horror!) if she cooked more food whenever she cooks if she didn’t want anyone to point out that she sounds almost as ridiculous as OP.

I don’t experience her that way. I really don’t get you.

+1 I also don’t want to cook twice the food either. I make enough for our family of 4 and usually have some leftovers. But I’m not doubling the recipe to get even more leftovers.

Why? If it gets eaten it’s less work that cooking another meal. If you can afford Whole Foods you can buy another pot.
In our house we have “scavenger’s meal” once a week where we all create meals from various leftovers and things in the fridge. It’s actually fun and a way to reduce food waste. I never worry about cooking too much

When you have three kids in the house, and the kids have different favorite meals, if the oldest teenage boy consistently eats all the left overs and his younger brother and sister get upset that they don’t have their favorite during “various leftover day,” is that fair?
What lesson is being learned by all the kids? What if one of the kids has autism or allergies or doesn’t like things spicy and that teenage boy ate all of the allergen free or lower spice food. Is that okay? Do the kids learn that whoever has the biggest appetite wins? Or that in a family, you look out after only yourself? Or should they be taught to leave some for others?

Families are different and make different choices.

Wow. Sounds like you’re raising three entitled kids when it comes to food while lecturing everyone else about their hungry teenage boys.

You did it - you completed the circle!

Have a great Sunday!!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:I have 2 teen boys who train in endurance type sports. The start of puberty, and the intensity of the hunger, wasn't something either I or my older son was prepared for, and at 13 it was still really new. I knew it was coming in the abstract but not how strongly or suddenly it could come on. My oldest kid and I definitely needed help figuring out how to plan for it, because when it started it seemed like they were blindsided by it.

I needed to figure out what to buy and cook that I was OK with the kids going through in enormous quantities. My kids and I started preparing giant batches of cheap filling food -- breakfast burritos, baked oatmeal, baked pasta, red beans and rice or charro beans, pulled chicken with hamburger buns, hamburger or lentil soup, grilled cheese sandwiches, hard boiled eggs, bagels and cream cheese, gallons of whole milk and yogurt, bananas, frozen waffles, etc . . . that I keep in the fridge at anytime so they can have an extra meal.

We figured out systems for labeling things and storing things they couldn't eat. Yes, I want them to have unlimited access to calories, but I also want to be able to make something nice at night for dinner the next day and know that the whole family will be able to get some.

We figured out what kids could carry in backpacks so that they aren't walking in the house ravishing after practice or school.

We established some guidelines. At home, they eat at the table, rather than standing in front of the fridge. They use plates, rather than eating of the containers. They think of it like an extra meal and take multiple food groups. They take their dishes to the sink when they were done. If they eat the last of something like bananas or milk they put it on the list. If they polish off the baked pasta or the rice and beans, they tell me and often make the next thing.

But all of that took time. Those are skills and routines that we had to intentionally build. And blaming a 13 year old because they don't have those skills and routines, and just responded to the hunger isn't fair.

Very bizarre that it took time to teach them not to do this. My kids never in a million years stand in front of the fridge and eat or eat directly out of the containers.

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Anonymous wrote:We started marking food in the fridge with tape when our teenage son needs to leave it alone. If it has tape on it, he can only take one small serving. A year in and so far, this is working.

This is so bizarre. Just buy more food.

I guess to you it is bizarre! He can have anything else in the fridge, but if we have leftovers of a meal I cooked that everyone loves, he gets one share of that and everyone else gets a share too. There is plenty of other stuff and he knows how to cook meals as well. It is working for us- he learns he can’t just take all of everyone’s favorite foods and should be aware others want it too. He is also able to eat when he is hungry, just not other people’s food they are also looking forward to.

We have plenty of food, but no I’m not doubling up on cooking meals and doing twice the dishes (some things only fit in certain pots/dishes) so he gets to eat whatever he wants.

Jesus Christ. Just make more food when you make these amazing meals you doofus. Your doubling up on dishes excuse as to why you refuse to cook bigger portions is extremely lame and doesn’t make sense. (Cook the food in a bigger pot maybe?) Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Hahaha are you really writing here to tell me how to cook food?
Sorry everyone- thought we had a solution that works for us and might work for others. Clearly that isn’t you PP! Congrats on telling me off!

I mean, you’re either incompetent or you resent your own son. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I’m guessing you’ll be one of those confused women someday who doesn’t understand why your son spends most of his holidays with his in-laws. Enjoy!

NP. You sound insane.

Also NP.People write the wildest fan fiction on here to work out their inner fears and demons.

Yeah, it’s super wild that a son might grow up and not be close to his miserly mother who thinks he’s an entitled glutton for eating more food than she does during one of the biggest growth periods of his life.

That’s not what she said. She said she ensures there are portions left for other family members. We do the same so we can use the leftovers for another meal. The kid can snack on something else.

LOL. She also said she absolutely refuses to cook MORE of the food her whole family wants to eat MORE of, but instead weirdly tapes off tiny portions of leftovers.

Like I said, she’s incompetent.

DP who hasn’t posted in this thread for many days. I really don’t see your perspective here. The pp — who to my understanding is not the OP — came up with a system that works for her family and for her kid. It actually seems like a pretty good system to me (and I am so totally NOT an almond mom — I happen to think op has big issues).

Her excuses are dumb. Sorry. She should have left off the BS about how she can only cook chicken or pasta (or whatever) in one pot and therefore she would have to do TWICE the number of dishes (the horror!) if she cooked more food whenever she cooks if she didn’t want anyone to point out that she sounds almost as ridiculous as OP.

+1 I mean obviously 2 containers of the WF pasta salad was enough for the family when her son was 12. Now that he’s 13, she needs to buy 3 containers so all family members have the amount suited to their hunger. She’s making this about the perception that her son is eating more than his “fair share.” But he is hungrier and has higher caloric needs than other members of the family. The solution isn’t for him to eat 6 different other small things to get full. The solution is to buy or make more food so that he can have an adequate portion of the item to achieve satiety. The shaming and controlling and expecting that everything you cook will be portioned out into equal identical portions for different family members is not helpful or appropriate for handling this situation. This isn’t like he ate all the homemade chocolate chip cookies leaving none for his siblings.

Separately, that pasta salad is a main dish in my opinion, not a side dish. I perceive it more like Mac n cheese (although not hot) than macaroni salad.

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Anonymous wrote:I have 2 teen boys who train in endurance type sports. The start of puberty, and the intensity of the hunger, wasn't something either I or my older son was prepared for, and at 13 it was still really new. I knew it was coming in the abstract but not how strongly or suddenly it could come on. My oldest kid and I definitely needed help figuring out how to plan for it, because when it started it seemed like they were blindsided by it.

I needed to figure out what to buy and cook that I was OK with the kids going through in enormous quantities. My kids and I started preparing giant batches of cheap filling food -- breakfast burritos, baked oatmeal, baked pasta, red beans and rice or charro beans, pulled chicken with hamburger buns, hamburger or lentil soup, grilled cheese sandwiches, hard boiled eggs, bagels and cream cheese, gallons of whole milk and yogurt, bananas, frozen waffles, etc . . . that I keep in the fridge at anytime so they can have an extra meal.

We figured out systems for labeling things and storing things they couldn't eat. Yes, I want them to have unlimited access to calories, but I also want to be able to make something nice at night for dinner the next day and know that the whole family will be able to get some.

We figured out what kids could carry in backpacks so that they aren't walking in the house ravishing after practice or school.

We established some guidelines. At home, they eat at the table, rather than standing in front of the fridge. They use plates, rather than eating of the containers. They think of it like an extra meal and take multiple food groups. They take their dishes to the sink when they were done. If they eat the last of something like bananas or milk they put it on the list. If they polish off the baked pasta or the rice and beans, they tell me and often make the next thing.

But all of that took time. Those are skills and routines that we had to intentionally build. And blaming a 13 year old because they don't have those skills and routines, and just responded to the hunger isn't fair.

Very bizarre that it took time to teach them not to do this. My kids never in a million years stand in front of the fridge and eat or eat directly out of the containers.

How old are your kids? Because my sons never did that until they were 13, coming back from a multiple hour practice starving. And then we did some reteaching.

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Anonymous wrote:I have 2 teen boys who train in endurance type sports. The start of puberty, and the intensity of the hunger, wasn't something either I or my older son was prepared for, and at 13 it was still really new. I knew it was coming in the abstract but not how strongly or suddenly it could come on. My oldest kid and I definitely needed help figuring out how to plan for it, because when it started it seemed like they were blindsided by it.

I needed to figure out what to buy and cook that I was OK with the kids going through in enormous quantities. My kids and I started preparing giant batches of cheap filling food -- breakfast burritos, baked oatmeal, baked pasta, red beans and rice or charro beans, pulled chicken with hamburger buns, hamburger or lentil soup, grilled cheese sandwiches, hard boiled eggs, bagels and cream cheese, gallons of whole milk and yogurt, bananas, frozen waffles, etc . . . that I keep in the fridge at anytime so they can have an extra meal.

We figured out systems for labeling things and storing things they couldn't eat. Yes, I want them to have unlimited access to calories, but I also want to be able to make something nice at night for dinner the next day and know that the whole family will be able to get some.

We figured out what kids could carry in backpacks so that they aren't walking in the house ravishing after practice or school.

We established some guidelines. At home, they eat at the table, rather than standing in front of the fridge. They use plates, rather than eating of the containers. They think of it like an extra meal and take multiple food groups. They take their dishes to the sink when they were done. If they eat the last of something like bananas or milk they put it on the list. If they polish off the baked pasta or the rice and beans, they tell me and often make the next thing.

But all of that took time. Those are skills and routines that we had to intentionally build. And blaming a 13 year old because they don't have those skills and routines, and just responded to the hunger isn't fair.

Very bizarre that it took time to teach them not to do this. My kids never in a million years stand in front of the fridge and eat or eat directly out of the containers.

Why would they? There’s no food in your fridge.

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Anonymous wrote:We started marking food in the fridge with tape when our teenage son needs to leave it alone. If it has tape on it, he can only take one small serving. A year in and so far, this is working.

This is so bizarre. Just buy more food.

I guess to you it is bizarre! He can have anything else in the fridge, but if we have leftovers of a meal I cooked that everyone loves, he gets one share of that and everyone else gets a share too. There is plenty of other stuff and he knows how to cook meals as well. It is working for us- he learns he can’t just take all of everyone’s favorite foods and should be aware others want it too. He is also able to eat when he is hungry, just not other people’s food they are also looking forward to.

We have plenty of food, but no I’m not doubling up on cooking meals and doing twice the dishes (some things only fit in certain pots/dishes) so he gets to eat whatever he wants.

Jesus Christ. Just make more food when you make these amazing meals you doofus. Your doubling up on dishes excuse as to why you refuse to cook bigger portions is extremely lame and doesn’t make sense. (Cook the food in a bigger pot maybe?) Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Hahaha are you really writing here to tell me how to cook food?
Sorry everyone- thought we had a solution that works for us and might work for others. Clearly that isn’t you PP! Congrats on telling me off!

I mean, you’re either incompetent or you resent your own son. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I’m guessing you’ll be one of those confused women someday who doesn’t understand why your son spends most of his holidays with his in-laws. Enjoy!

NP. You sound insane.

Also NP.People write the wildest fan fiction on here to work out their inner fears and demons.

Yeah, it’s super wild that a son might grow up and not be close to his miserly mother who thinks he’s an entitled glutton for eating more food than she does during one of the biggest growth periods of his life.

That’s not what she said. She said she ensures there are portions left for other family members. We do the same so we can use the leftovers for another meal. The kid can snack on something else.

LOL. She also said she absolutely refuses to cook MORE of the food her whole family wants to eat MORE of, but instead weirdly tapes off tiny portions of leftovers.

Like I said, she’s incompetent.

DP who hasn’t posted in this thread for many days. I really don’t see your perspective here. The pp — who to my understanding is not the OP — came up with a system that works for her family and for her kid. It actually seems like a pretty good system to me (and I am so totally NOT an almond mom — I happen to think op has big issues).

Her excuses are dumb. Sorry. She should have left off the BS about how she can only cook chicken or pasta (or whatever) in one pot and therefore she would have to do TWICE the number of dishes (the horror!) if she cooked more food whenever she cooks if she didn’t want anyone to point out that she sounds almost as ridiculous as OP.

+1 I mean obviously 2 containers of the WF pasta salad was enough for the family when her son was 12. Now that he’s 13, she needs to buy 3 containers so all family members have the amount suited to their hunger. She’s making this about the perception that her son is eating more than his “fair share.” But he is hungrier and has higher caloric needs than other members of the family. The solution isn’t for him to eat 6 different other small things to get full. The solution is to buy or make more food so that he can have an adequate portion of the item to achieve satiety. The shaming and controlling and expecting that everything you cook will be portioned out into equal identical portions for different family members is not helpful or appropriate for handling this situation. This isn’t like he ate all the homemade chocolate chip cookies leaving none for his siblings.

Separately, that pasta salad is a main dish in my opinion, not a side dish. I perceive it more like Mac n cheese (although not hot) than macaroni salad.

There is a whole lot of unwhole foods in that salad:

Ingredients: Smoked Mozzarella Salad Dressing (Dressing [Canola Oil, Water, Brown Rice Syrup, Modified Food Starch, Pea Protein Isolate, White Distilled Vinegar, Sea Salt, Mustard Flour, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Xanthan Gum, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, White Pepper], White Wine Vinegar [Aged White Wine Vinegar. Contains Sulfites], Minced Garlic in Water [Garlic, Water, Citric Acid], Cayenne Pepper, Salt, Black Pepper), Cooked Penne Rigate (Water, Enriched Semolina Flour [Durum Wheat Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid], Canola Oil, Wheat Gluten, Eggs, Agar, Carrageenan, Locust Bean Gum, Xanthan Gum), Smoked Mozzarella (Pasteurized Cultured Cow's Milk, Salt, Enzymes, and Smoke [Liquid]), Roasted Red Pepper (Red Sweet Pepper, Water, Sea Salt, Citric Acid), Parmesan Cheese (Pasteurized Part Skim Milk, Cheese Culture, Salt, Enzymes, Flow Agent: Less Than 2% Microcellulose Crystalline To Prevent Caking), Spinach, Parsley.

The kid would be much better off filling up on homemade snacks IMHO.

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Anonymous wrote:We started marking food in the fridge with tape when our teenage son needs to leave it alone. If it has tape on it, he can only take one small serving. A year in and so far, this is working.

This is so bizarre. Just buy more food.

I guess to you it is bizarre! He can have anything else in the fridge, but if we have leftovers of a meal I cooked that everyone loves, he gets one share of that and everyone else gets a share too. There is plenty of other stuff and he knows how to cook meals as well. It is working for us- he learns he can’t just take all of everyone’s favorite foods and should be aware others want it too. He is also able to eat when he is hungry, just not other people’s food they are also looking forward to.

We have plenty of food, but no I’m not doubling up on cooking meals and doing twice the dishes (some things only fit in certain pots/dishes) so he gets to eat whatever he wants.

Jesus Christ. Just make more food when you make these amazing meals you doofus. Your doubling up on dishes excuse as to why you refuse to cook bigger portions is extremely lame and doesn’t make sense. (Cook the food in a bigger pot maybe?) Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Hahaha are you really writing here to tell me how to cook food?
Sorry everyone- thought we had a solution that works for us and might work for others. Clearly that isn’t you PP! Congrats on telling me off!

I mean, you’re either incompetent or you resent your own son. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I’m guessing you’ll be one of those confused women someday who doesn’t understand why your son spends most of his holidays with his in-laws. Enjoy!

NP. You sound insane.

Also NP.People write the wildest fan fiction on here to work out their inner fears and demons.

Yeah, it’s super wild that a son might grow up and not be close to his miserly mother who thinks he’s an entitled glutton for eating more food than she does during one of the biggest growth periods of his life.

That’s not what she said. She said she ensures there are portions left for other family members. We do the same so we can use the leftovers for another meal. The kid can snack on something else.

LOL. She also said she absolutely refuses to cook MORE of the food her whole family wants to eat MORE of, but instead weirdly tapes off tiny portions of leftovers.

Like I said, she’s incompetent.

DP who hasn’t posted in this thread for many days. I really don’t see your perspective here. The pp — who to my understanding is not the OP — came up with a system that works for her family and for her kid. It actually seems like a pretty good system to me (and I am so totally NOT an almond mom — I happen to think op has big issues).

Her excuses are dumb. Sorry. She should have left off the BS about how she can only cook chicken or pasta (or whatever) in one pot and therefore she would have to do TWICE the number of dishes (the horror!) if she cooked more food whenever she cooks if she didn’t want anyone to point out that she sounds almost as ridiculous as OP.

+1 I mean obviously 2 containers of the WF pasta salad was enough for the family when her son was 12. Now that he’s 13, she needs to buy 3 containers so all family members have the amount suited to their hunger. She’s making this about the perception that her son is eating more than his “fair share.” But he is hungrier and has higher caloric needs than other members of the family. The solution isn’t for him to eat 6 different other small things to get full. The solution is to buy or make more food so that he can have an adequate portion of the item to achieve satiety. The shaming and controlling and expecting that everything you cook will be portioned out into equal identical portions for different family members is not helpful or appropriate for handling this situation. This isn’t like he ate all the homemade chocolate chip cookies leaving none for his siblings.

Separately, that pasta salad is a main dish in my opinion, not a side dish. I perceive it more like Mac n cheese (although not hot) than macaroni salad.

Well stated.

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Fair share makes sense in dome contexts.
You have 4 $4 Baked and Wired cupcakes for a special dessert. 4 people. Everyone should get a cupcake. You don't buy a dozen so the 13 year old can eat his fill, or at least only eat 9.
The growing boy saint knows to eat stuff not earmarked for sharing.

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Anonymous wrote:We started marking food in the fridge with tape when our teenage son needs to leave it alone. If it has tape on it, he can only take one small serving. A year in and so far, this is working.

This is so bizarre. Just buy more food.

I guess to you it is bizarre! He can have anything else in the fridge, but if we have leftovers of a meal I cooked that everyone loves, he gets one share of that and everyone else gets a share too. There is plenty of other stuff and he knows how to cook meals as well. It is working for us- he learns he can’t just take all of everyone’s favorite foods and should be aware others want it too. He is also able to eat when he is hungry, just not other people’s food they are also looking forward to.

We have plenty of food, but no I’m not doubling up on cooking meals and doing twice the dishes (some things only fit in certain pots/dishes) so he gets to eat whatever he wants.

Jesus Christ. Just make more food when you make these amazing meals you doofus. Your doubling up on dishes excuse as to why you refuse to cook bigger portions is extremely lame and doesn’t make sense. (Cook the food in a bigger pot maybe?) Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Hahaha are you really writing here to tell me how to cook food?
Sorry everyone- thought we had a solution that works for us and might work for others. Clearly that isn’t you PP! Congrats on telling me off!

I mean, you’re either incompetent or you resent your own son. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I’m guessing you’ll be one of those confused women someday who doesn’t understand why your son spends most of his holidays with his in-laws. Enjoy!

NP. You sound insane.

Also NP.People write the wildest fan fiction on here to work out their inner fears and demons.

Yeah, it’s super wild that a son might grow up and not be close to his miserly mother who thinks he’s an entitled glutton for eating more food than she does during one of the biggest growth periods of his life.

That’s not what she said. She said she ensures there are portions left for other family members. We do the same so we can use the leftovers for another meal. The kid can snack on something else.

LOL. She also said she absolutely refuses to cook MORE of the food her whole family wants to eat MORE of, but instead weirdly tapes off tiny portions of leftovers.

Like I said, she’s incompetent.

DP who hasn’t posted in this thread for many days. I really don’t see your perspective here. The pp — who to my understanding is not the OP — came up with a system that works for her family and for her kid. It actually seems like a pretty good system to me (and I am so totally NOT an almond mom — I happen to think op has big issues).

Her excuses are dumb. Sorry. She should have left off the BS about how she can only cook chicken or pasta (or whatever) in one pot and therefore she would have to do TWICE the number of dishes (the horror!) if she cooked more food whenever she cooks if she didn’t want anyone to point out that she sounds almost as ridiculous as OP.

+1 I mean obviously 2 containers of the WF pasta salad was enough for the family when her son was 12. Now that he’s 13, she needs to buy 3 containers so all family members have the amount suited to their hunger. She’s making this about the perception that her son is eating more than his “fair share.” But he is hungrier and has higher caloric needs than other members of the family. The solution isn’t for him to eat 6 different other small things to get full. The solution is to buy or make more food so that he can have an adequate portion of the item to achieve satiety. The shaming and controlling and expecting that everything you cook will be portioned out into equal identical portions for different family members is not helpful or appropriate for handling this situation. This isn’t like he ate all the homemade chocolate chip cookies leaving none for his siblings.

Separately, that pasta salad is a main dish in my opinion, not a side dish. I perceive it more like Mac n cheese (although not hot) than macaroni salad.

Or maybe he just wanted the pasta salad. Just because there are other dinner leftovers available doesn’t mean teens will eat them over store bought prepared foods ir random frozen Hot Pockets. Smoked mozzarella salad sounds a lot better than Mom’s leftover beans and rice

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Anonymous wrote:We started marking food in the fridge with tape when our teenage son needs to leave it alone. If it has tape on it, he can only take one small serving. A year in and so far, this is working.

This is so bizarre. Just buy more food.

I guess to you it is bizarre! He can have anything else in the fridge, but if we have leftovers of a meal I cooked that everyone loves, he gets one share of that and everyone else gets a share too. There is plenty of other stuff and he knows how to cook meals as well. It is working for us- he learns he can’t just take all of everyone’s favorite foods and should be aware others want it too. He is also able to eat when he is hungry, just not other people’s food they are also looking forward to.

We have plenty of food, but no I’m not doubling up on cooking meals and doing twice the dishes (some things only fit in certain pots/dishes) so he gets to eat whatever he wants.

Jesus Christ. Just make more food when you make these amazing meals you doofus. Your doubling up on dishes excuse as to why you refuse to cook bigger portions is extremely lame and doesn’t make sense. (Cook the food in a bigger pot maybe?) Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Hahaha are you really writing here to tell me how to cook food?
Sorry everyone- thought we had a solution that works for us and might work for others. Clearly that isn’t you PP! Congrats on telling me off!

I mean, you’re either incompetent or you resent your own son. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I’m guessing you’ll be one of those confused women someday who doesn’t understand why your son spends most of his holidays with his in-laws. Enjoy!

NP. You sound insane.

Also NP.People write the wildest fan fiction on here to work out their inner fears and demons.

Yeah, it’s super wild that a son might grow up and not be close to his miserly mother who thinks he’s an entitled glutton for eating more food than she does during one of the biggest growth periods of his life.

That’s not what she said. She said she ensures there are portions left for other family members. We do the same so we can use the leftovers for another meal. The kid can snack on something else.

LOL. She also said she absolutely refuses to cook MORE of the food her whole family wants to eat MORE of, but instead weirdly tapes off tiny portions of leftovers.

Like I said, she’s incompetent.

DP who hasn’t posted in this thread for many days. I really don’t see your perspective here. The pp — who to my understanding is not the OP — came up with a system that works for her family and for her kid. It actually seems like a pretty good system to me (and I am so totally NOT an almond mom — I happen to think op has big issues).

Her excuses are dumb. Sorry. She should have left off the BS about how she can only cook chicken or pasta (or whatever) in one pot and therefore she would have to do TWICE the number of dishes (the horror!) if she cooked more food whenever she cooks if she didn’t want anyone to point out that she sounds almost as ridiculous as OP.

+1 I mean obviously 2 containers of the WF pasta salad was enough for the family when her son was 12. Now that he’s 13, she needs to buy 3 containers so all family members have the amount suited to their hunger. She’s making this about the perception that her son is eating more than his “fair share.” But he is hungrier and has higher caloric needs than other members of the family. The solution isn’t for him to eat 6 different other small things to get full. The solution is to buy or make more food so that he can have an adequate portion of the item to achieve satiety. The shaming and controlling and expecting that everything you cook will be portioned out into equal identical portions for different family members is not helpful or appropriate for handling this situation. This isn’t like he ate all the homemade chocolate chip cookies leaving none for his siblings.

Separately, that pasta salad is a main dish in my opinion, not a side dish. I perceive it more like Mac n cheese (although not hot) than macaroni salad.

There is a whole lot of unwhole foods in that salad:

Ingredients: Smoked Mozzarella Salad Dressing (Dressing [Canola Oil, Water, Brown Rice Syrup, Modified Food Starch, Pea Protein Isolate, White Distilled Vinegar, Sea Salt, Mustard Flour, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Xanthan Gum, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, White Pepper], White Wine Vinegar [Aged White Wine Vinegar. Contains Sulfites], Minced Garlic in Water [Garlic, Water, Citric Acid], Cayenne Pepper, Salt, Black Pepper), Cooked Penne Rigate (Water, Enriched Semolina Flour [Durum Wheat Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid], Canola Oil, Wheat Gluten, Eggs, Agar, Carrageenan, Locust Bean Gum, Xanthan Gum), Smoked Mozzarella (Pasteurized Cultured Cow's Milk, Salt, Enzymes, and Smoke [Liquid]), Roasted Red Pepper (Red Sweet Pepper, Water, Sea Salt, Citric Acid), Parmesan Cheese (Pasteurized Part Skim Milk, Cheese Culture, Salt, Enzymes, Flow Agent: Less Than 2% Microcellulose Crystalline To Prevent Caking), Spinach, Parsley.

The kid would be much better off filling up on homemade snacks IMHO.

Which ingredient do you object to?

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Anonymous wrote:We started marking food in the fridge with tape when our teenage son needs to leave it alone. If it has tape on it, he can only take one small serving. A year in and so far, this is working.

This is so bizarre. Just buy more food.

I guess to you it is bizarre! He can have anything else in the fridge, but if we have leftovers of a meal I cooked that everyone loves, he gets one share of that and everyone else gets a share too. There is plenty of other stuff and he knows how to cook meals as well. It is working for us- he learns he can’t just take all of everyone’s favorite foods and should be aware others want it too. He is also able to eat when he is hungry, just not other people’s food they are also looking forward to.

We have plenty of food, but no I’m not doubling up on cooking meals and doing twice the dishes (some things only fit in certain pots/dishes) so he gets to eat whatever he wants.

Jesus Christ. Just make more food when you make these amazing meals you doofus. Your doubling up on dishes excuse as to why you refuse to cook bigger portions is extremely lame and doesn’t make sense. (Cook the food in a bigger pot maybe?) Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Hahaha are you really writing here to tell me how to cook food?
Sorry everyone- thought we had a solution that works for us and might work for others. Clearly that isn’t you PP! Congrats on telling me off!

I mean, you’re either incompetent or you resent your own son. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I’m guessing you’ll be one of those confused women someday who doesn’t understand why your son spends most of his holidays with his in-laws. Enjoy!

NP. You sound insane.

Also NP.People write the wildest fan fiction on here to work out their inner fears and demons.

Yeah, it’s super wild that a son might grow up and not be close to his miserly mother who thinks he’s an entitled glutton for eating more food than she does during one of the biggest growth periods of his life.

That’s not what she said. She said she ensures there are portions left for other family members. We do the same so we can use the leftovers for another meal. The kid can snack on something else.

LOL. She also said she absolutely refuses to cook MORE of the food her whole family wants to eat MORE of, but instead weirdly tapes off tiny portions of leftovers.

Like I said, she’s incompetent.

DP who hasn’t posted in this thread for many days. I really don’t see your perspective here. The pp — who to my understanding is not the OP — came up with a system that works for her family and for her kid. It actually seems like a pretty good system to me (and I am so totally NOT an almond mom — I happen to think op has big issues).

Her excuses are dumb. Sorry. She should have left off the BS about how she can only cook chicken or pasta (or whatever) in one pot and therefore she would have to do TWICE the number of dishes (the horror!) if she cooked more food whenever she cooks if she didn’t want anyone to point out that she sounds almost as ridiculous as OP.

+1 I mean obviously 2 containers of the WF pasta salad was enough for the family when her son was 12. Now that he’s 13, she needs to buy 3 containers so all family members have the amount suited to their hunger. She’s making this about the perception that her son is eating more than his “fair share.” But he is hungrier and has higher caloric needs than other members of the family. The solution isn’t for him to eat 6 different other small things to get full. The solution is to buy or make more food so that he can have an adequate portion of the item to achieve satiety. The shaming and controlling and expecting that everything you cook will be portioned out into equal identical portions for different family members is not helpful or appropriate for handling this situation. This isn’t like he ate all the homemade chocolate chip cookies leaving none for his siblings.

Separately, that pasta salad is a main dish in my opinion, not a side dish. I perceive it more like Mac n cheese (although not hot) than macaroni salad.

Or maybe he just wanted the pasta salad. Just because there are other dinner leftovers available doesn’t mean teens will eat them over store bought prepared foods ir random frozen Hot Pockets. Smoked mozzarella salad sounds a lot better than Mom’s leftover beans and rice

If people want food to be designed for someone or something, they need to communicate that. The kid is not a mind reader. It’s his own refrigerator and there was an entire second container! If OP needs him to limit consumption of certain foods she needs to tell him rather than expect he would somehow know her random pasta portion plan in her own mind.

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Anonymous wrote:We started marking food in the fridge with tape when our teenage son needs to leave it alone. If it has tape on it, he can only take one small serving. A year in and so far, this is working.

This is so bizarre. Just buy more food.

I guess to you it is bizarre! He can have anything else in the fridge, but if we have leftovers of a meal I cooked that everyone loves, he gets one share of that and everyone else gets a share too. There is plenty of other stuff and he knows how to cook meals as well. It is working for us- he learns he can’t just take all of everyone’s favorite foods and should be aware others want it too. He is also able to eat when he is hungry, just not other people’s food they are also looking forward to.

We have plenty of food, but no I’m not doubling up on cooking meals and doing twice the dishes (some things only fit in certain pots/dishes) so he gets to eat whatever he wants.

Jesus Christ. Just make more food when you make these amazing meals you doofus. Your doubling up on dishes excuse as to why you refuse to cook bigger portions is extremely lame and doesn’t make sense. (Cook the food in a bigger pot maybe?) Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Hahaha are you really writing here to tell me how to cook food?
Sorry everyone- thought we had a solution that works for us and might work for others. Clearly that isn’t you PP! Congrats on telling me off!

I mean, you’re either incompetent or you resent your own son. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I’m guessing you’ll be one of those confused women someday who doesn’t understand why your son spends most of his holidays with his in-laws. Enjoy!

NP. You sound insane.

Also NP.People write the wildest fan fiction on here to work out their inner fears and demons.

Yeah, it’s super wild that a son might grow up and not be close to his miserly mother who thinks he’s an entitled glutton for eating more food than she does during one of the biggest growth periods of his life.

That’s not what she said. She said she ensures there are portions left for other family members. We do the same so we can use the leftovers for another meal. The kid can snack on something else.

LOL. She also said she absolutely refuses to cook MORE of the food her whole family wants to eat MORE of, but instead weirdly tapes off tiny portions of leftovers.

Like I said, she’s incompetent.

DP who hasn’t posted in this thread for many days. I really don’t see your perspective here. The pp — who to my understanding is not the OP — came up with a system that works for her family and for her kid. It actually seems like a pretty good system to me (and I am so totally NOT an almond mom — I happen to think op has big issues).

Her excuses are dumb. Sorry. She should have left off the BS about how she can only cook chicken or pasta (or whatever) in one pot and therefore she would have to do TWICE the number of dishes (the horror!) if she cooked more food whenever she cooks if she didn’t want anyone to point out that she sounds almost as ridiculous as OP.

+1 I mean obviously 2 containers of the WF pasta salad was enough for the family when her son was 12. Now that he’s 13, she needs to buy 3 containers so all family members have the amount suited to their hunger. She’s making this about the perception that her son is eating more than his “fair share.” But he is hungrier and has higher caloric needs than other members of the family. The solution isn’t for him to eat 6 different other small things to get full. The solution is to buy or make more food so that he can have an adequate portion of the item to achieve satiety. The shaming and controlling and expecting that everything you cook will be portioned out into equal identical portions for different family members is not helpful or appropriate for handling this situation. This isn’t like he ate all the homemade chocolate chip cookies leaving none for his siblings.

Separately, that pasta salad is a main dish in my opinion, not a side dish. I perceive it more like Mac n cheese (although not hot) than macaroni salad.

There is a whole lot of unwhole foods in that salad:

Ingredients: Smoked Mozzarella Salad Dressing (Dressing [Canola Oil, Water, Brown Rice Syrup, Modified Food Starch, Pea Protein Isolate, White Distilled Vinegar, Sea Salt, Mustard Flour, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Xanthan Gum, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, White Pepper], White Wine Vinegar [Aged White Wine Vinegar. Contains Sulfites], Minced Garlic in Water [Garlic, Water, Citric Acid], Cayenne Pepper, Salt, Black Pepper), Cooked Penne Rigate (Water, Enriched Semolina Flour [Durum Wheat Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid], Canola Oil, Wheat Gluten, Eggs, Agar, Carrageenan, Locust Bean Gum, Xanthan Gum), Smoked Mozzarella (Pasteurized Cultured Cow's Milk, Salt, Enzymes, and Smoke [Liquid]), Roasted Red Pepper (Red Sweet Pepper, Water, Sea Salt, Citric Acid), Parmesan Cheese (Pasteurized Part Skim Milk, Cheese Culture, Salt, Enzymes, Flow Agent: Less Than 2% Microcellulose Crystalline To Prevent Caking), Spinach, Parsley.

The kid would be much better off filling up on homemade snacks IMHO.

Which ingredient do you object to?

Canola oil is pure junk; trans fats, inflammation, clogs arteries, cellulite, makes you fat. It's used because it's dirt cheap. Why can't these greedy companies use olive oil and charge, what, $1 more per pound? Everything in the WF deli and bakery is now full of canola or palm oil. So much for being a "healthy" grocery store, it's like the entire global economy wants everyone sick and obese.

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Anonymous wrote:I have 2 teen boys who train in endurance type sports. The start of puberty, and the intensity of the hunger, wasn't something either I or my older son was prepared for, and at 13 it was still really new. I knew it was coming in the abstract but not how strongly or suddenly it could come on. My oldest kid and I definitely needed help figuring out how to plan for it, because when it started it seemed like they were blindsided by it.

I needed to figure out what to buy and cook that I was OK with the kids going through in enormous quantities. My kids and I started preparing giant batches of cheap filling food -- breakfast burritos, baked oatmeal, baked pasta, red beans and rice or charro beans, pulled chicken with hamburger buns, hamburger or lentil soup, grilled cheese sandwiches, hard boiled eggs, bagels and cream cheese, gallons of whole milk and yogurt, bananas, frozen waffles, etc . . . that I keep in the fridge at anytime so they can have an extra meal.

We figured out systems for labeling things and storing things they couldn't eat. Yes, I want them to have unlimited access to calories, but I also want to be able to make something nice at night for dinner the next day and know that the whole family will be able to get some.

We figured out what kids could carry in backpacks so that they aren't walking in the house ravishing after practice or school.

We established some guidelines. At home, they eat at the table, rather than standing in front of the fridge. They use plates, rather than eating of the containers. They think of it like an extra meal and take multiple food groups. They take their dishes to the sink when they were done. If they eat the last of something like bananas or milk they put it on the list. If they polish off the baked pasta or the rice and beans, they tell me and often make the next thing.

But all of that took time. Those are skills and routines that we had to intentionally build. And blaming a 13 year old because they don't have those skills and routines, and just responded to the hunger isn't fair.

Very bizarre that it took time to teach them not to do this. My kids never in a million years stand in front of the fridge and eat or eat directly out of the containers.

How old are your kids? Because my sons never did that until they were 13, coming back from a multiple hour practice starving. And then we did some reteaching.

My son is 15.

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Anonymous wrote:I have 2 teen boys who train in endurance type sports. The start of puberty, and the intensity of the hunger, wasn't something either I or my older son was prepared for, and at 13 it was still really new. I knew it was coming in the abstract but not how strongly or suddenly it could come on. My oldest kid and I definitely needed help figuring out how to plan for it, because when it started it seemed like they were blindsided by it.

I needed to figure out what to buy and cook that I was OK with the kids going through in enormous quantities. My kids and I started preparing giant batches of cheap filling food -- breakfast burritos, baked oatmeal, baked pasta, red beans and rice or charro beans, pulled chicken with hamburger buns, hamburger or lentil soup, grilled cheese sandwiches, hard boiled eggs, bagels and cream cheese, gallons of whole milk and yogurt, bananas, frozen waffles, etc . . . that I keep in the fridge at anytime so they can have an extra meal.

We figured out systems for labeling things and storing things they couldn't eat. Yes, I want them to have unlimited access to calories, but I also want to be able to make something nice at night for dinner the next day and know that the whole family will be able to get some.

We figured out what kids could carry in backpacks so that they aren't walking in the house ravishing after practice or school.

We established some guidelines. At home, they eat at the table, rather than standing in front of the fridge. They use plates, rather than eating of the containers. They think of it like an extra meal and take multiple food groups. They take their dishes to the sink when they were done. If they eat the last of something like bananas or milk they put it on the list. If they polish off the baked pasta or the rice and beans, they tell me and often make the next thing.

But all of that took time. Those are skills and routines that we had to intentionally build. And blaming a 13 year old because they don't have those skills and routines, and just responded to the hunger isn't fair.

Very bizarre that it took time to teach them not to do this. My kids never in a million years stand in front of the fridge and eat or eat directly out of the containers.

How old are your kids? Because my sons never did that until they were 13, coming back from a multiple hour practice starving. And then we did some reteaching.

My son is 15.

So, you went from kids to kid.