Teen son ate an entire large container of Whole Foods smoked mozzarella pasta salad

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Anonymous wrote:I have 2 teen boys who train in endurance type sports. The start of puberty, and the intensity of the hunger, wasn't something either I or my older son was prepared for, and at 13 it was still really new. I knew it was coming in the abstract but not how strongly or suddenly it could come on. My oldest kid and I definitely needed help figuring out how to plan for it, because when it started it seemed like they were blindsided by it.

I needed to figure out what to buy and cook that I was OK with the kids going through in enormous quantities. My kids and I started preparing giant batches of cheap filling food -- breakfast burritos, baked oatmeal, baked pasta, red beans and rice or charro beans, pulled chicken with hamburger buns, hamburger or lentil soup, grilled cheese sandwiches, hard boiled eggs, bagels and cream cheese, gallons of whole milk and yogurt, bananas, frozen waffles, etc . . . that I keep in the fridge at anytime so they can have an extra meal.

We figured out systems for labeling things and storing things they couldn't eat. Yes, I want them to have unlimited access to calories, but I also want to be able to make something nice at night for dinner the next day and know that the whole family will be able to get some.

We figured out what kids could carry in backpacks so that they aren't walking in the house ravishing after practice or school.

We established some guidelines. At home, they eat at the table, rather than standing in front of the fridge. They use plates, rather than eating of the containers. They think of it like an extra meal and take multiple food groups. They take their dishes to the sink when they were done. If they eat the last of something like bananas or milk they put it on the list. If they polish off the baked pasta or the rice and beans, they tell me and often make the next thing.

But all of that took time. Those are skills and routines that we had to intentionally build. And blaming a 13 year old because they don't have those skills and routines, and just responded to the hunger isn't fair.

Very bizarre that it took time to teach them not to do this. My kids never in a million years stand in front of the fridge and eat or eat directly out of the containers.

How old are your kids? Because my sons never did that until they were 13, coming back from a multiple hour practice starving. And then we did some reteaching.

My son is 15.

So, you went from kids to kid.

The other one is a girl and not relevant to the discussion. We are talking about teen boys. But she also doesn’t stand in front of the fridge and wolf food down from containers. Or need to be taught to “eat at a table.”

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Anonymous wrote:My boys could 100% do this. If you need or want some to be saved for another time, you have to tell them.

+1. If this is your first/only boy, then buckle up. They don't slow down for a long time. Someone else said they are like a furnace, and it's true. My two boys still eat a LOT of food, and both are active and skinny as rails. They just need a lot of food for some reason. I also will make sure some specific ingredients for dinners aren't eaten ahead of time, but I also make sure I have tons of food available for them to be able to eat as much as they need/want. We go through 5 dozen eggs a week, for example.

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This is such a funny post to me. That someone would think it’s unusual enough to post about! In concern! 😂 um- it’s a teen boy. Just wait. They are so gross. They will eat so much food. You have to have so much food around!!

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Anonymous wrote:We started marking food in the fridge with tape when our teenage son needs to leave it alone. If it has tape on it, he can only take one small serving. A year in and so far, this is working.

This is so bizarre. Just buy more food.

I guess to you it is bizarre! He can have anything else in the fridge, but if we have leftovers of a meal I cooked that everyone loves, he gets one share of that and everyone else gets a share too. There is plenty of other stuff and he knows how to cook meals as well. It is working for us- he learns he can’t just take all of everyone’s favorite foods and should be aware others want it too. He is also able to eat when he is hungry, just not other people’s food they are also looking forward to.

We have plenty of food, but no I’m not doubling up on cooking meals and doing twice the dishes (some things only fit in certain pots/dishes) so he gets to eat whatever he wants.

Jesus Christ. Just make more food when you make these amazing meals you doofus. Your doubling up on dishes excuse as to why you refuse to cook bigger portions is extremely lame and doesn’t make sense. (Cook the food in a bigger pot maybe?) Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Hahaha are you really writing here to tell me how to cook food?
Sorry everyone- thought we had a solution that works for us and might work for others. Clearly that isn’t you PP! Congrats on telling me off!

I mean, you’re either incompetent or you resent your own son. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I’m guessing you’ll be one of those confused women someday who doesn’t understand why your son spends most of his holidays with his in-laws. Enjoy!

NP. You sound insane.

Also NP.People write the wildest fan fiction on here to work out their inner fears and demons.

Yeah, it’s super wild that a son might grow up and not be close to his miserly mother who thinks he’s an entitled glutton for eating more food than she does during one of the biggest growth periods of his life.

That’s not what she said. She said she ensures there are portions left for other family members. We do the same so we can use the leftovers for another meal. The kid can snack on something else.

LOL. She also said she absolutely refuses to cook MORE of the food her whole family wants to eat MORE of, but instead weirdly tapes off tiny portions of leftovers.

Like I said, she’s incompetent.

DP who hasn’t posted in this thread for many days. I really don’t see your perspective here. The pp — who to my understanding is not the OP — came up with a system that works for her family and for her kid. It actually seems like a pretty good system to me (and I am so totally NOT an almond mom — I happen to think op has big issues).

Her excuses are dumb. Sorry. She should have left off the BS about how she can only cook chicken or pasta (or whatever) in one pot and therefore she would have to do TWICE the number of dishes (the horror!) if she cooked more food whenever she cooks if she didn’t want anyone to point out that she sounds almost as ridiculous as OP.

+1 I mean obviously 2 containers of the WF pasta salad was enough for the family when her son was 12. Now that he’s 13, she needs to buy 3 containers so all family members have the amount suited to their hunger. She’s making this about the perception that her son is eating more than his “fair share.” But he is hungrier and has higher caloric needs than other members of the family. The solution isn’t for him to eat 6 different other small things to get full. The solution is to buy or make more food so that he can have an adequate portion of the item to achieve satiety. The shaming and controlling and expecting that everything you cook will be portioned out into equal identical portions for different family members is not helpful or appropriate for handling this situation. This isn’t like he ate all the homemade chocolate chip cookies leaving none for his siblings.

Separately, that pasta salad is a main dish in my opinion, not a side dish. I perceive it more like Mac n cheese (although not hot) than macaroni salad.

There is a whole lot of unwhole foods in that salad:

Ingredients: Smoked Mozzarella Salad Dressing (Dressing [Canola Oil, Water, Brown Rice Syrup, Modified Food Starch, Pea Protein Isolate, White Distilled Vinegar, Sea Salt, Mustard Flour, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Xanthan Gum, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, White Pepper], White Wine Vinegar [Aged White Wine Vinegar. Contains Sulfites], Minced Garlic in Water [Garlic, Water, Citric Acid], Cayenne Pepper, Salt, Black Pepper), Cooked Penne Rigate (Water, Enriched Semolina Flour [Durum Wheat Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid], Canola Oil, Wheat Gluten, Eggs, Agar, Carrageenan, Locust Bean Gum, Xanthan Gum), Smoked Mozzarella (Pasteurized Cultured Cow's Milk, Salt, Enzymes, and Smoke [Liquid]), Roasted Red Pepper (Red Sweet Pepper, Water, Sea Salt, Citric Acid), Parmesan Cheese (Pasteurized Part Skim Milk, Cheese Culture, Salt, Enzymes, Flow Agent: Less Than 2% Microcellulose Crystalline To Prevent Caking), Spinach, Parsley.

The kid would be much better off filling up on homemade snacks IMHO.

Which ingredient do you object to?

Canola oil is pure junk; trans fats, inflammation, clogs arteries, cellulite, makes you fat. It's used because it's dirt cheap. Why can't these greedy companies use olive oil and charge, what, $1 more per pound? Everything in the WF deli and bakery is now full of canola or palm oil. So much for being a "healthy" grocery store, it's like the entire global economy wants everyone sick and obese.

LOL at thinking there’s some difference between olive oil and rapeseed oil.

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I come from a family of 5 girls and 1 boy. Us girls always felt like we had enough to eat. We were thin. Years later my brother told us he was always hungry and would steal other kids lunches at school. We were shocked! We were middle class, but he considered us poor because he never had enough to eat. When he got a family of his own, he always bought lots of food so no one ever felt hungry. We had no idea he felt this way growing up in the same household. He said he expressed these feelings to my mother at the time, but she would tell him he had plenty and was just being greedy. He grew to be 6 feet tall and was athletic in school.

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Anonymous wrote:We started marking food in the fridge with tape when our teenage son needs to leave it alone. If it has tape on it, he can only take one small serving. A year in and so far, this is working.

This is so bizarre. Just buy more food.

I guess to you it is bizarre! He can have anything else in the fridge, but if we have leftovers of a meal I cooked that everyone loves, he gets one share of that and everyone else gets a share too. There is plenty of other stuff and he knows how to cook meals as well. It is working for us- he learns he can’t just take all of everyone’s favorite foods and should be aware others want it too. He is also able to eat when he is hungry, just not other people’s food they are also looking forward to.

We have plenty of food, but no I’m not doubling up on cooking meals and doing twice the dishes (some things only fit in certain pots/dishes) so he gets to eat whatever he wants.

Jesus Christ. Just make more food when you make these amazing meals you doofus. Your doubling up on dishes excuse as to why you refuse to cook bigger portions is extremely lame and doesn’t make sense. (Cook the food in a bigger pot maybe?) Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Hahaha are you really writing here to tell me how to cook food?
Sorry everyone- thought we had a solution that works for us and might work for others. Clearly that isn’t you PP! Congrats on telling me off!

I mean, you’re either incompetent or you resent your own son. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I’m guessing you’ll be one of those confused women someday who doesn’t understand why your son spends most of his holidays with his in-laws. Enjoy!

NP. You sound insane.

Also NP.People write the wildest fan fiction on here to work out their inner fears and demons.

Yeah, it’s super wild that a son might grow up and not be close to his miserly mother who thinks he’s an entitled glutton for eating more food than she does during one of the biggest growth periods of his life.

That’s not what she said. She said she ensures there are portions left for other family members. We do the same so we can use the leftovers for another meal. The kid can snack on something else.

LOL. She also said she absolutely refuses to cook MORE of the food her whole family wants to eat MORE of, but instead weirdly tapes off tiny portions of leftovers.

Like I said, she’s incompetent.

DP who hasn’t posted in this thread for many days. I really don’t see your perspective here. The pp — who to my understanding is not the OP — came up with a system that works for her family and for her kid. It actually seems like a pretty good system to me (and I am so totally NOT an almond mom — I happen to think op has big issues).

Her excuses are dumb. Sorry. She should have left off the BS about how she can only cook chicken or pasta (or whatever) in one pot and therefore she would have to do TWICE the number of dishes (the horror!) if she cooked more food whenever she cooks if she didn’t want anyone to point out that she sounds almost as ridiculous as OP.

+1 I mean obviously 2 containers of the WF pasta salad was enough for the family when her son was 12. Now that he’s 13, she needs to buy 3 containers so all family members have the amount suited to their hunger. She’s making this about the perception that her son is eating more than his “fair share.” But he is hungrier and has higher caloric needs than other members of the family. The solution isn’t for him to eat 6 different other small things to get full. The solution is to buy or make more food so that he can have an adequate portion of the item to achieve satiety. The shaming and controlling and expecting that everything you cook will be portioned out into equal identical portions for different family members is not helpful or appropriate for handling this situation. This isn’t like he ate all the homemade chocolate chip cookies leaving none for his siblings.

Separately, that pasta salad is a main dish in my opinion, not a side dish. I perceive it more like Mac n cheese (although not hot) than macaroni salad.

There is a whole lot of unwhole foods in that salad:

Ingredients: Smoked Mozzarella Salad Dressing (Dressing [Canola Oil, Water, Brown Rice Syrup, Modified Food Starch, Pea Protein Isolate, White Distilled Vinegar, Sea Salt, Mustard Flour, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Xanthan Gum, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, White Pepper], White Wine Vinegar [Aged White Wine Vinegar. Contains Sulfites], Minced Garlic in Water [Garlic, Water, Citric Acid], Cayenne Pepper, Salt, Black Pepper), Cooked Penne Rigate (Water, Enriched Semolina Flour [Durum Wheat Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid], Canola Oil, Wheat Gluten, Eggs, Agar, Carrageenan, Locust Bean Gum, Xanthan Gum), Smoked Mozzarella (Pasteurized Cultured Cow's Milk, Salt, Enzymes, and Smoke [Liquid]), Roasted Red Pepper (Red Sweet Pepper, Water, Sea Salt, Citric Acid), Parmesan Cheese (Pasteurized Part Skim Milk, Cheese Culture, Salt, Enzymes, Flow Agent: Less Than 2% Microcellulose Crystalline To Prevent Caking), Spinach, Parsley.

The kid would be much better off filling up on homemade snacks IMHO.

Which ingredient do you object to?

Canola oil is pure junk; trans fats, inflammation, clogs arteries, cellulite, makes you fat. It's used because it's dirt cheap. Why can't these greedy companies use olive oil and charge, what, $1 more per pound? Everything in the WF deli and bakery is now full of canola or palm oil. So much for being a "healthy" grocery store, it's like the entire global economy wants everyone sick and obese.

LOL at thinking there’s some difference between olive oil and rapeseed oil.

I’ve never heard of rapeseed oil.

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OP, I have a small kitchen with limited storage space. I also have teens. I double recipes that I can double without cooking twice. But there are things I just cannot do that with. I try to always have leftovers in the frig and homemade frozen items they can heat quickly. Even so, my teen often say we “have no food” if we don’t have Hot Pockets or bags of snack foods on hand and they would absolutely eat the Whole Foods pasta mozzarella salad over the leftover beans and rice in the frig. My solution would be buy him his own portion of stuff you know he loves, like this salad.

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Anonymous wrote:We started marking food in the fridge with tape when our teenage son needs to leave it alone. If it has tape on it, he can only take one small serving. A year in and so far, this is working.

This is so bizarre. Just buy more food.

I guess to you it is bizarre! He can have anything else in the fridge, but if we have leftovers of a meal I cooked that everyone loves, he gets one share of that and everyone else gets a share too. There is plenty of other stuff and he knows how to cook meals as well. It is working for us- he learns he can’t just take all of everyone’s favorite foods and should be aware others want it too. He is also able to eat when he is hungry, just not other people’s food they are also looking forward to.

We have plenty of food, but no I’m not doubling up on cooking meals and doing twice the dishes (some things only fit in certain pots/dishes) so he gets to eat whatever he wants.

Jesus Christ. Just make more food when you make these amazing meals you doofus. Your doubling up on dishes excuse as to why you refuse to cook bigger portions is extremely lame and doesn’t make sense. (Cook the food in a bigger pot maybe?) Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Hahaha are you really writing here to tell me how to cook food?
Sorry everyone- thought we had a solution that works for us and might work for others. Clearly that isn’t you PP! Congrats on telling me off!

I mean, you’re either incompetent or you resent your own son. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I’m guessing you’ll be one of those confused women someday who doesn’t understand why your son spends most of his holidays with his in-laws. Enjoy!

NP. You sound insane.

Also NP.People write the wildest fan fiction on here to work out their inner fears and demons.

Yeah, it’s super wild that a son might grow up and not be close to his miserly mother who thinks he’s an entitled glutton for eating more food than she does during one of the biggest growth periods of his life.

That’s not what she said. She said she ensures there are portions left for other family members. We do the same so we can use the leftovers for another meal. The kid can snack on something else.

LOL. She also said she absolutely refuses to cook MORE of the food her whole family wants to eat MORE of, but instead weirdly tapes off tiny portions of leftovers.

Like I said, she’s incompetent.

DP who hasn’t posted in this thread for many days. I really don’t see your perspective here. The pp — who to my understanding is not the OP — came up with a system that works for her family and for her kid. It actually seems like a pretty good system to me (and I am so totally NOT an almond mom — I happen to think op has big issues).

Her excuses are dumb. Sorry. She should have left off the BS about how she can only cook chicken or pasta (or whatever) in one pot and therefore she would have to do TWICE the number of dishes (the horror!) if she cooked more food whenever she cooks if she didn’t want anyone to point out that she sounds almost as ridiculous as OP.

+1 I mean obviously 2 containers of the WF pasta salad was enough for the family when her son was 12. Now that he’s 13, she needs to buy 3 containers so all family members have the amount suited to their hunger. She’s making this about the perception that her son is eating more than his “fair share.” But he is hungrier and has higher caloric needs than other members of the family. The solution isn’t for him to eat 6 different other small things to get full. The solution is to buy or make more food so that he can have an adequate portion of the item to achieve satiety. The shaming and controlling and expecting that everything you cook will be portioned out into equal identical portions for different family members is not helpful or appropriate for handling this situation. This isn’t like he ate all the homemade chocolate chip cookies leaving none for his siblings.

Separately, that pasta salad is a main dish in my opinion, not a side dish. I perceive it more like Mac n cheese (although not hot) than macaroni salad.

There is a whole lot of unwhole foods in that salad:

Ingredients: Smoked Mozzarella Salad Dressing (Dressing [Canola Oil, Water, Brown Rice Syrup, Modified Food Starch, Pea Protein Isolate, White Distilled Vinegar, Sea Salt, Mustard Flour, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Xanthan Gum, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, White Pepper], White Wine Vinegar [Aged White Wine Vinegar. Contains Sulfites], Minced Garlic in Water [Garlic, Water, Citric Acid], Cayenne Pepper, Salt, Black Pepper), Cooked Penne Rigate (Water, Enriched Semolina Flour [Durum Wheat Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid], Canola Oil, Wheat Gluten, Eggs, Agar, Carrageenan, Locust Bean Gum, Xanthan Gum), Smoked Mozzarella (Pasteurized Cultured Cow's Milk, Salt, Enzymes, and Smoke [Liquid]), Roasted Red Pepper (Red Sweet Pepper, Water, Sea Salt, Citric Acid), Parmesan Cheese (Pasteurized Part Skim Milk, Cheese Culture, Salt, Enzymes, Flow Agent: Less Than 2% Microcellulose Crystalline To Prevent Caking), Spinach, Parsley.

The kid would be much better off filling up on homemade snacks IMHO.

Which ingredient do you object to?

Canola oil is pure junk; trans fats, inflammation, clogs arteries, cellulite, makes you fat. It's used because it's dirt cheap. Why can't these greedy companies use olive oil and charge, what, $1 more per pound? Everything in the WF deli and bakery is now full of canola or palm oil. So much for being a "healthy" grocery store, it's like the entire global economy wants everyone sick and obese.

LOL at thinking there’s some difference between olive oil and rapeseed oil.

I’ve never heard of rapeseed oil.

It's the old name got canola oil before they decided having "rape" in the name would hurt sales. DP.

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When he was a teenager my husband used to eat dinner with his family and then cook and eat an entire 1 lb box of pasta a few hours later. He was a competitive swimmer and growing like crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:We started marking food in the fridge with tape when our teenage son needs to leave it alone. If it has tape on it, he can only take one small serving. A year in and so far, this is working.

This is so bizarre. Just buy more food.

I guess to you it is bizarre! He can have anything else in the fridge, but if we have leftovers of a meal I cooked that everyone loves, he gets one share of that and everyone else gets a share too. There is plenty of other stuff and he knows how to cook meals as well. It is working for us- he learns he can’t just take all of everyone’s favorite foods and should be aware others want it too. He is also able to eat when he is hungry, just not other people’s food they are also looking forward to.

We have plenty of food, but no I’m not doubling up on cooking meals and doing twice the dishes (some things only fit in certain pots/dishes) so he gets to eat whatever he wants.

Jesus Christ. Just make more food when you make these amazing meals you doofus. Your doubling up on dishes excuse as to why you refuse to cook bigger portions is extremely lame and doesn’t make sense. (Cook the food in a bigger pot maybe?) Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Hahaha are you really writing here to tell me how to cook food?
Sorry everyone- thought we had a solution that works for us and might work for others. Clearly that isn’t you PP! Congrats on telling me off!

I mean, you’re either incompetent or you resent your own son. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I’m guessing you’ll be one of those confused women someday who doesn’t understand why your son spends most of his holidays with his in-laws. Enjoy!

NP. You sound insane.

Also NP.People write the wildest fan fiction on here to work out their inner fears and demons.

Yeah, it’s super wild that a son might grow up and not be close to his miserly mother who thinks he’s an entitled glutton for eating more food than she does during one of the biggest growth periods of his life.

That’s not what she said. She said she ensures there are portions left for other family members. We do the same so we can use the leftovers for another meal. The kid can snack on something else.

LOL. She also said she absolutely refuses to cook MORE of the food her whole family wants to eat MORE of, but instead weirdly tapes off tiny portions of leftovers.

Like I said, she’s incompetent.

DP who hasn’t posted in this thread for many days. I really don’t see your perspective here. The pp — who to my understanding is not the OP — came up with a system that works for her family and for her kid. It actually seems like a pretty good system to me (and I am so totally NOT an almond mom — I happen to think op has big issues).

Her excuses are dumb. Sorry. She should have left off the BS about how she can only cook chicken or pasta (or whatever) in one pot and therefore she would have to do TWICE the number of dishes (the horror!) if she cooked more food whenever she cooks if she didn’t want anyone to point out that she sounds almost as ridiculous as OP.

+1 I mean obviously 2 containers of the WF pasta salad was enough for the family when her son was 12. Now that he’s 13, she needs to buy 3 containers so all family members have the amount suited to their hunger. She’s making this about the perception that her son is eating more than his “fair share.” But he is hungrier and has higher caloric needs than other members of the family. The solution isn’t for him to eat 6 different other small things to get full. The solution is to buy or make more food so that he can have an adequate portion of the item to achieve satiety. The shaming and controlling and expecting that everything you cook will be portioned out into equal identical portions for different family members is not helpful or appropriate for handling this situation. This isn’t like he ate all the homemade chocolate chip cookies leaving none for his siblings.

Separately, that pasta salad is a main dish in my opinion, not a side dish. I perceive it more like Mac n cheese (although not hot) than macaroni salad.

There is a whole lot of unwhole foods in that salad:

Ingredients: Smoked Mozzarella Salad Dressing (Dressing [Canola Oil, Water, Brown Rice Syrup, Modified Food Starch, Pea Protein Isolate, White Distilled Vinegar, Sea Salt, Mustard Flour, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Xanthan Gum, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, White Pepper], White Wine Vinegar [Aged White Wine Vinegar. Contains Sulfites], Minced Garlic in Water [Garlic, Water, Citric Acid], Cayenne Pepper, Salt, Black Pepper), Cooked Penne Rigate (Water, Enriched Semolina Flour [Durum Wheat Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid], Canola Oil, Wheat Gluten, Eggs, Agar, Carrageenan, Locust Bean Gum, Xanthan Gum), Smoked Mozzarella (Pasteurized Cultured Cow's Milk, Salt, Enzymes, and Smoke [Liquid]), Roasted Red Pepper (Red Sweet Pepper, Water, Sea Salt, Citric Acid), Parmesan Cheese (Pasteurized Part Skim Milk, Cheese Culture, Salt, Enzymes, Flow Agent: Less Than 2% Microcellulose Crystalline To Prevent Caking), Spinach, Parsley.

The kid would be much better off filling up on homemade snacks IMHO.

Which ingredient do you object to?

Canola oil is pure junk; trans fats, inflammation, clogs arteries, cellulite, makes you fat. It's used because it's dirt cheap. Why can't these greedy companies use olive oil and charge, what, $1 more per pound? Everything in the WF deli and bakery is now full of canola or palm oil. So much for being a "healthy" grocery store, it's like the entire global economy wants everyone sick and obese.

LOL at thinking there’s some difference between olive oil and rapeseed oil.

I’ve never heard of rapeseed oil.

It's forced down your gullet, whether you want it or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop feeding the troll.

Feed the troll more pasta salad

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Anonymous wrote:We started marking food in the fridge with tape when our teenage son needs to leave it alone. If it has tape on it, he can only take one small serving. A year in and so far, this is working.

This is so bizarre. Just buy more food.

I guess to you it is bizarre! He can have anything else in the fridge, but if we have leftovers of a meal I cooked that everyone loves, he gets one share of that and everyone else gets a share too. There is plenty of other stuff and he knows how to cook meals as well. It is working for us- he learns he can’t just take all of everyone’s favorite foods and should be aware others want it too. He is also able to eat when he is hungry, just not other people’s food they are also looking forward to.

We have plenty of food, but no I’m not doubling up on cooking meals and doing twice the dishes (some things only fit in certain pots/dishes) so he gets to eat whatever he wants.

Jesus Christ. Just make more food when you make these amazing meals you doofus. Your doubling up on dishes excuse as to why you refuse to cook bigger portions is extremely lame and doesn’t make sense. (Cook the food in a bigger pot maybe?) Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Hahaha are you really writing here to tell me how to cook food?
Sorry everyone- thought we had a solution that works for us and might work for others. Clearly that isn’t you PP! Congrats on telling me off!

I mean, you’re either incompetent or you resent your own son. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I’m guessing you’ll be one of those confused women someday who doesn’t understand why your son spends most of his holidays with his in-laws. Enjoy!

NP. You sound insane.

Also NP.People write the wildest fan fiction on here to work out their inner fears and demons.

Yeah, it’s super wild that a son might grow up and not be close to his miserly mother who thinks he’s an entitled glutton for eating more food than she does during one of the biggest growth periods of his life.

That’s not what she said. She said she ensures there are portions left for other family members. We do the same so we can use the leftovers for another meal. The kid can snack on something else.

LOL. She also said she absolutely refuses to cook MORE of the food her whole family wants to eat MORE of, but instead weirdly tapes off tiny portions of leftovers.

Like I said, she’s incompetent.

DP who hasn’t posted in this thread for many days. I really don’t see your perspective here. The pp — who to my understanding is not the OP — came up with a system that works for her family and for her kid. It actually seems like a pretty good system to me (and I am so totally NOT an almond mom — I happen to think op has big issues).

Her excuses are dumb. Sorry. She should have left off the BS about how she can only cook chicken or pasta (or whatever) in one pot and therefore she would have to do TWICE the number of dishes (the horror!) if she cooked more food whenever she cooks if she didn’t want anyone to point out that she sounds almost as ridiculous as OP.

+1 I mean obviously 2 containers of the WF pasta salad was enough for the family when her son was 12. Now that he’s 13, she needs to buy 3 containers so all family members have the amount suited to their hunger. She’s making this about the perception that her son is eating more than his “fair share.” But he is hungrier and has higher caloric needs than other members of the family. The solution isn’t for him to eat 6 different other small things to get full. The solution is to buy or make more food so that he can have an adequate portion of the item to achieve satiety. The shaming and controlling and expecting that everything you cook will be portioned out into equal identical portions for different family members is not helpful or appropriate for handling this situation. This isn’t like he ate all the homemade chocolate chip cookies leaving none for his siblings.

Separately, that pasta salad is a main dish in my opinion, not a side dish. I perceive it more like Mac n cheese (although not hot) than macaroni salad.

There is a whole lot of unwhole foods in that salad:

Ingredients: Smoked Mozzarella Salad Dressing (Dressing [Canola Oil, Water, Brown Rice Syrup, Modified Food Starch, Pea Protein Isolate, White Distilled Vinegar, Sea Salt, Mustard Flour, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Xanthan Gum, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, White Pepper], White Wine Vinegar [Aged White Wine Vinegar. Contains Sulfites], Minced Garlic in Water [Garlic, Water, Citric Acid], Cayenne Pepper, Salt, Black Pepper), Cooked Penne Rigate (Water, Enriched Semolina Flour [Durum Wheat Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid], Canola Oil, Wheat Gluten, Eggs, Agar, Carrageenan, Locust Bean Gum, Xanthan Gum), Smoked Mozzarella (Pasteurized Cultured Cow's Milk, Salt, Enzymes, and Smoke [Liquid]), Roasted Red Pepper (Red Sweet Pepper, Water, Sea Salt, Citric Acid), Parmesan Cheese (Pasteurized Part Skim Milk, Cheese Culture, Salt, Enzymes, Flow Agent: Less Than 2% Microcellulose Crystalline To Prevent Caking), Spinach, Parsley.

The kid would be much better off filling up on homemade snacks IMHO.

Which ingredient do you object to?

Canola oil is pure junk; trans fats, inflammation, clogs arteries, cellulite, makes you fat. It's used because it's dirt cheap. Why can't these greedy companies use olive oil and charge, what, $1 more per pound? Everything in the WF deli and bakery is now full of canola or palm oil. So much for being a "healthy" grocery store, it's like the entire global economy wants everyone sick and obese.

LOL at thinking there’s some difference between olive oil and rapeseed oil.

I’ve never heard of rapeseed oil.

It's forced down your gullet, whether you want it or not.

1. False
2. Seriously, explain (physiologically) the health benefits of olive oil and contrast with the health drawbacks of canola (rapeseed) oil.

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Anonymous wrote:We started marking food in the fridge with tape when our teenage son needs to leave it alone. If it has tape on it, he can only take one small serving. A year in and so far, this is working.

This is so bizarre. Just buy more food.

I guess to you it is bizarre! He can have anything else in the fridge, but if we have leftovers of a meal I cooked that everyone loves, he gets one share of that and everyone else gets a share too. There is plenty of other stuff and he knows how to cook meals as well. It is working for us- he learns he can’t just take all of everyone’s favorite foods and should be aware others want it too. He is also able to eat when he is hungry, just not other people’s food they are also looking forward to.

We have plenty of food, but no I’m not doubling up on cooking meals and doing twice the dishes (some things only fit in certain pots/dishes) so he gets to eat whatever he wants.

Jesus Christ. Just make more food when you make these amazing meals you doofus. Your doubling up on dishes excuse as to why you refuse to cook bigger portions is extremely lame and doesn’t make sense. (Cook the food in a bigger pot maybe?) Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Hahaha are you really writing here to tell me how to cook food?
Sorry everyone- thought we had a solution that works for us and might work for others. Clearly that isn’t you PP! Congrats on telling me off!

I mean, you’re either incompetent or you resent your own son. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I’m guessing you’ll be one of those confused women someday who doesn’t understand why your son spends most of his holidays with his in-laws. Enjoy!

NP. You sound insane.

Also NP.People write the wildest fan fiction on here to work out their inner fears and demons.

Yeah, it’s super wild that a son might grow up and not be close to his miserly mother who thinks he’s an entitled glutton for eating more food than she does during one of the biggest growth periods of his life.

That’s not what she said. She said she ensures there are portions left for other family members. We do the same so we can use the leftovers for another meal. The kid can snack on something else.

LOL. She also said she absolutely refuses to cook MORE of the food her whole family wants to eat MORE of, but instead weirdly tapes off tiny portions of leftovers.

Like I said, she’s incompetent.

DP who hasn’t posted in this thread for many days. I really don’t see your perspective here. The pp — who to my understanding is not the OP — came up with a system that works for her family and for her kid. It actually seems like a pretty good system to me (and I am so totally NOT an almond mom — I happen to think op has big issues).

Her excuses are dumb. Sorry. She should have left off the BS about how she can only cook chicken or pasta (or whatever) in one pot and therefore she would have to do TWICE the number of dishes (the horror!) if she cooked more food whenever she cooks if she didn’t want anyone to point out that she sounds almost as ridiculous as OP.

+1 I mean obviously 2 containers of the WF pasta salad was enough for the family when her son was 12. Now that he’s 13, she needs to buy 3 containers so all family members have the amount suited to their hunger. She’s making this about the perception that her son is eating more than his “fair share.” But he is hungrier and has higher caloric needs than other members of the family. The solution isn’t for him to eat 6 different other small things to get full. The solution is to buy or make more food so that he can have an adequate portion of the item to achieve satiety. The shaming and controlling and expecting that everything you cook will be portioned out into equal identical portions for different family members is not helpful or appropriate for handling this situation. This isn’t like he ate all the homemade chocolate chip cookies leaving none for his siblings.

Separately, that pasta salad is a main dish in my opinion, not a side dish. I perceive it more like Mac n cheese (although not hot) than macaroni salad.

There is a whole lot of unwhole foods in that salad:

Ingredients: Smoked Mozzarella Salad Dressing (Dressing [Canola Oil, Water, Brown Rice Syrup, Modified Food Starch, Pea Protein Isolate, White Distilled Vinegar, Sea Salt, Mustard Flour, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Xanthan Gum, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, White Pepper], White Wine Vinegar [Aged White Wine Vinegar. Contains Sulfites], Minced Garlic in Water [Garlic, Water, Citric Acid], Cayenne Pepper, Salt, Black Pepper), Cooked Penne Rigate (Water, Enriched Semolina Flour [Durum Wheat Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid], Canola Oil, Wheat Gluten, Eggs, Agar, Carrageenan, Locust Bean Gum, Xanthan Gum), Smoked Mozzarella (Pasteurized Cultured Cow's Milk, Salt, Enzymes, and Smoke [Liquid]), Roasted Red Pepper (Red Sweet Pepper, Water, Sea Salt, Citric Acid), Parmesan Cheese (Pasteurized Part Skim Milk, Cheese Culture, Salt, Enzymes, Flow Agent: Less Than 2% Microcellulose Crystalline To Prevent Caking), Spinach, Parsley.

The kid would be much better off filling up on homemade snacks IMHO.

Which ingredient do you object to?

Canola oil is pure junk; trans fats, inflammation, clogs arteries, cellulite, makes you fat. It's used because it's dirt cheap. Why can't these greedy companies use olive oil and charge, what, $1 more per pound? Everything in the WF deli and bakery is now full of canola or palm oil. So much for being a "healthy" grocery store, it's like the entire global economy wants everyone sick and obese.

LOL at thinking there’s some difference between olive oil and rapeseed oil.

I’ve never heard of rapeseed oil.

It's forced down your gullet, whether you want it or not.

1. False
2. Seriously, explain (physiologically) the health benefits of olive oil and contrast with the health drawbacks of canola (rapeseed) oil.

Dp. Here you go. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/canola-vs-olive-oil

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Anonymous wrote:We started marking food in the fridge with tape when our teenage son needs to leave it alone. If it has tape on it, he can only take one small serving. A year in and so far, this is working.

This is so bizarre. Just buy more food.

I guess to you it is bizarre! He can have anything else in the fridge, but if we have leftovers of a meal I cooked that everyone loves, he gets one share of that and everyone else gets a share too. There is plenty of other stuff and he knows how to cook meals as well. It is working for us- he learns he can’t just take all of everyone’s favorite foods and should be aware others want it too. He is also able to eat when he is hungry, just not other people’s food they are also looking forward to.

We have plenty of food, but no I’m not doubling up on cooking meals and doing twice the dishes (some things only fit in certain pots/dishes) so he gets to eat whatever he wants.

Jesus Christ. Just make more food when you make these amazing meals you doofus. Your doubling up on dishes excuse as to why you refuse to cook bigger portions is extremely lame and doesn’t make sense. (Cook the food in a bigger pot maybe?) Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Hahaha are you really writing here to tell me how to cook food?
Sorry everyone- thought we had a solution that works for us and might work for others. Clearly that isn’t you PP! Congrats on telling me off!

I mean, you’re either incompetent or you resent your own son. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I’m guessing you’ll be one of those confused women someday who doesn’t understand why your son spends most of his holidays with his in-laws. Enjoy!

NP. You sound insane.

Also NP.People write the wildest fan fiction on here to work out their inner fears and demons.

Yeah, it’s super wild that a son might grow up and not be close to his miserly mother who thinks he’s an entitled glutton for eating more food than she does during one of the biggest growth periods of his life.

That’s not what she said. She said she ensures there are portions left for other family members. We do the same so we can use the leftovers for another meal. The kid can snack on something else.

LOL. She also said she absolutely refuses to cook MORE of the food her whole family wants to eat MORE of, but instead weirdly tapes off tiny portions of leftovers.

Like I said, she’s incompetent.

DP who hasn’t posted in this thread for many days. I really don’t see your perspective here. The pp — who to my understanding is not the OP — came up with a system that works for her family and for her kid. It actually seems like a pretty good system to me (and I am so totally NOT an almond mom — I happen to think op has big issues).

Her excuses are dumb. Sorry. She should have left off the BS about how she can only cook chicken or pasta (or whatever) in one pot and therefore she would have to do TWICE the number of dishes (the horror!) if she cooked more food whenever she cooks if she didn’t want anyone to point out that she sounds almost as ridiculous as OP.

+1 I mean obviously 2 containers of the WF pasta salad was enough for the family when her son was 12. Now that he’s 13, she needs to buy 3 containers so all family members have the amount suited to their hunger. She’s making this about the perception that her son is eating more than his “fair share.” But he is hungrier and has higher caloric needs than other members of the family. The solution isn’t for him to eat 6 different other small things to get full. The solution is to buy or make more food so that he can have an adequate portion of the item to achieve satiety. The shaming and controlling and expecting that everything you cook will be portioned out into equal identical portions for different family members is not helpful or appropriate for handling this situation. This isn’t like he ate all the homemade chocolate chip cookies leaving none for his siblings.

Separately, that pasta salad is a main dish in my opinion, not a side dish. I perceive it more like Mac n cheese (although not hot) than macaroni salad.

There is a whole lot of unwhole foods in that salad:

Ingredients: Smoked Mozzarella Salad Dressing (Dressing [Canola Oil, Water, Brown Rice Syrup, Modified Food Starch, Pea Protein Isolate, White Distilled Vinegar, Sea Salt, Mustard Flour, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Xanthan Gum, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, White Pepper], White Wine Vinegar [Aged White Wine Vinegar. Contains Sulfites], Minced Garlic in Water [Garlic, Water, Citric Acid], Cayenne Pepper, Salt, Black Pepper), Cooked Penne Rigate (Water, Enriched Semolina Flour [Durum Wheat Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid], Canola Oil, Wheat Gluten, Eggs, Agar, Carrageenan, Locust Bean Gum, Xanthan Gum), Smoked Mozzarella (Pasteurized Cultured Cow's Milk, Salt, Enzymes, and Smoke [Liquid]), Roasted Red Pepper (Red Sweet Pepper, Water, Sea Salt, Citric Acid), Parmesan Cheese (Pasteurized Part Skim Milk, Cheese Culture, Salt, Enzymes, Flow Agent: Less Than 2% Microcellulose Crystalline To Prevent Caking), Spinach, Parsley.

The kid would be much better off filling up on homemade snacks IMHO.

Which ingredient do you object to?

Canola oil is pure junk; trans fats, inflammation, clogs arteries, cellulite, makes you fat. It's used because it's dirt cheap. Why can't these greedy companies use olive oil and charge, what, $1 more per pound? Everything in the WF deli and bakery is now full of canola or palm oil. So much for being a "healthy" grocery store, it's like the entire global economy wants everyone sick and obese.

LOL at thinking there’s some difference between olive oil and rapeseed oil.

I’ve never heard of rapeseed oil.

It's forced down your gullet, whether you want it or not.

1. False
2. Seriously, explain (physiologically) the health benefits of olive oil and contrast with the health drawbacks of canola (rapeseed) oil.

Dp. Here you go. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/canola-vs-olive-oil

That article didn’t answer the question. The studies cited aren’t actually comparisons of olive vs canola oil for example, but rather “people who eat olive oil are healthier than people who don’t!” (Mediterranean diet, anyone?) and “people who consume the most canola oil are less healthy than people who consume the least!” (Canola is frequently the oil of choice for deep drying, which the article even mentions…)

Now I am actually not saying that one is more or less healthy/unhealthy than the other, but the real takeaway is that the American public is scientifically illiterate and you posting that article as some sort of “proof” for the PP’s hysteria about canola oil is Exhibit A.

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Also, PP cited trans fats, aka partially hydrogenated oils, which are created by adding hydrogen to liquid oils to make them solid at room temperature. The canola oil used in the pasta salad isn’t a trans fat.