Unvaxxed child in Texas just died of the measles

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.


Yes, there is information. They died from measles, a wholly preventable disease.


Preexisting conditions?

Let's pretend the child had diabetes. What is your next step, after obtaining that information? I'm genuinely confused about why you need this information.


I'm not the anti-vax PP you were responding to but I came to this thread to figure out why I'm seeing people online talk about this child who died.

They seem to be saying the child who died of measles, actually was hospitalized with RSV AND Pneumonia as well and then picked up measles in the hospital.

I've seen that two places now. But they won't cite their source of that information. I came here to see if anyone was also saying that? But apparently not.

Anyhow - that's what is going around the anti-vax, measles isn't that big a deal TikTok world - the child had "pre existing conditions" of RSV and Pneumonio, and then acquired measles while in the hospital. So they didn't die "of measles".

Even *if* that information were true (again - no source for it) -- STILL -- they would have died of the measles. Because a sick child in the hospital should not be getting measles - which could kill him in his weakened state. That's exactly why you vaccinate your kids - so if they are sick with other things, vaccine preventable diseases don't kill them.


This is what people don’t seem to understand.
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Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.


Yes, there is information. They died from measles, a wholly preventable disease.


Preexisting conditions?

Let's pretend the child had diabetes. What is your next step, after obtaining that information? I'm genuinely confused about why you need this information.


I'm not the anti-vax PP you were responding to but I came to this thread to figure out why I'm seeing people online talk about this child who died.

They seem to be saying the child who died of measles, actually was hospitalized with RSV AND Pneumonia as well and then picked up measles in the hospital.

I've seen that two places now. But they won't cite their source of that information. I came here to see if anyone was also saying that? But apparently not.

Anyhow - that's what is going around the anti-vax, measles isn't that big a deal TikTok world - the child had "pre existing conditions" of RSV and Pneumonio, and then acquired measles while in the hospital. So they didn't die "of measles".

Even *if* that information were true (again - no source for it) -- STILL -- they would have died of the measles. Because a sick child in the hospital should not be getting measles - which could kill him in his weakened state. That's exactly why you vaccinate your kids - so if they are sick with other things, vaccine preventable diseases don't kill them.


This is what people don’t seem to understand.


What you don't understand is that pneumonia is deadly in and of its own. In fact it's very dangerous for you to not understand it because vaccination against respiratory viruses isn't going to guarantee protection from bacterial pneumonia that can kill you. You should always get an xray after you feel like you cannot get better fast enough from a bad respiratory virus case and not count on it to go away on its own. Antibiotics are effective and save lives if diagnosed early enough. Most people dying from flu die from pneumonia that gets too advanced. it's likely RSV that's created this complication . RSV vaccine is not mandatory.

Anyway, vast majority of kids are vaccinated, mine too and I am not worried. I am still trying to find out why all of you are so worried given that I am pretty sure your kids are vaccinated?
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The situation must be very bad since RFK, Jr is saying something needs to be done.

I am assuming it's far worse than we know.

SXSW, a major conference is supposed to happen in Austin. Thousands of people will be flying there. Measles is highly contagious. These people will be in airplanes with other people, and so on.

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.


Yes, there is information. They died from measles, a wholly preventable disease.


Preexisting conditions?

Let's pretend the child had diabetes. What is your next step, after obtaining that information? I'm genuinely confused about why you need this information.


I'm not the anti-vax PP you were responding to but I came to this thread to figure out why I'm seeing people online talk about this child who died.

They seem to be saying the child who died of measles, actually was hospitalized with RSV AND Pneumonia as well and then picked up measles in the hospital.

I've seen that two places now. But they won't cite their source of that information. I came here to see if anyone was also saying that? But apparently not.

Anyhow - that's what is going around the anti-vax, measles isn't that big a deal TikTok world - the child had "pre existing conditions" of RSV and Pneumonio, and then acquired measles while in the hospital. So they didn't die "of measles".

Even *if* that information were true (again - no source for it) -- STILL -- they would have died of the measles. Because a sick child in the hospital should not be getting measles - which could kill him in his weakened state. That's exactly why you vaccinate your kids - so if they are sick with other things, vaccine preventable diseases don't kill them.


This is what people don’t seem to understand.


What you don't understand is that pneumonia is deadly in and of its own. In fact it's very dangerous for you to not understand it because vaccination against respiratory viruses isn't going to guarantee protection from bacterial pneumonia that can kill you. You should always get an xray after you feel like you cannot get better fast enough from a bad respiratory virus case and not count on it to go away on its own. Antibiotics are effective and save lives if diagnosed early enough. Most people dying from flu die from pneumonia that gets too advanced. it's likely RSV that's created this complication . RSV vaccine is not mandatory.

Anyway, vast majority of kids are vaccinated, mine too and I am not worried. I am still trying to find out why all of you are so worried given that I am pretty sure your kids are vaccinated?

Most vaccinated are nervous because they actually really don't believe what they say. They are terrified the things they put their trust in will fail them. They argue not to convince unvaccinated but themselves.
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Anonymous wrote:The situation must be very bad since RFK, Jr is saying something needs to be done.

I am assuming it's far worse than we know.

SXSW, a major conference is supposed to happen in Austin. Thousands of people will be flying there. Measles is highly contagious. These people will be in airplanes with other people, and so on.



The month long Houston Rodeo started this week which attracts thousands of visitors every day. It shutdown during COVID after becoming a super spreader event.
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Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.


Yes, there is information. They died from measles, a wholly preventable disease.


Preexisting conditions?

Let's pretend the child had diabetes. What is your next step, after obtaining that information? I'm genuinely confused about why you need this information.


I'm not the anti-vax PP you were responding to but I came to this thread to figure out why I'm seeing people online talk about this child who died.

They seem to be saying the child who died of measles, actually was hospitalized with RSV AND Pneumonia as well and then picked up measles in the hospital.

I've seen that two places now. But they won't cite their source of that information. I came here to see if anyone was also saying that? But apparently not.

Anyhow - that's what is going around the anti-vax, measles isn't that big a deal TikTok world - the child had "pre existing conditions" of RSV and Pneumonio, and then acquired measles while in the hospital. So they didn't die "of measles".

Even *if* that information were true (again - no source for it) -- STILL -- they would have died of the measles. Because a sick child in the hospital should not be getting measles - which could kill him in his weakened state. That's exactly why you vaccinate your kids - so if they are sick with other things, vaccine preventable diseases don't kill them.


This is what people don’t seem to understand.


What you don't understand is that pneumonia is deadly in and of its own. In fact it's very dangerous for you to not understand it because vaccination against respiratory viruses isn't going to guarantee protection from bacterial pneumonia that can kill you. You should always get an xray after you feel like you cannot get better fast enough from a bad respiratory virus case and not count on it to go away on its own. Antibiotics are effective and save lives if diagnosed early enough. Most people dying from flu die from pneumonia that gets too advanced. it's likely RSV that's created this complication . RSV vaccine is not mandatory.

Anyway, vast majority of kids are vaccinated, mine too and I am not worried. I am still trying to find out why all of you are so worried given that I am pretty sure your kids are vaccinated?

Most vaccinated are nervous because they actually really don't believe what they say. They are terrified the things they put their trust in will fail them. They argue not to convince unvaccinated but themselves.


It's natural to be nervous about an outbreak, but I'm not going to be the one weeping bedside at the hospital because my family is vaccinated. Good luck to you antivaxxers.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.


Yes, there is information. They died from measles, a wholly preventable disease.


Preexisting conditions?

Let's pretend the child had diabetes. What is your next step, after obtaining that information? I'm genuinely confused about why you need this information.


I'm not the anti-vax PP you were responding to but I came to this thread to figure out why I'm seeing people online talk about this child who died.

They seem to be saying the child who died of measles, actually was hospitalized with RSV AND Pneumonia as well and then picked up measles in the hospital.

I've seen that two places now. But they won't cite their source of that information. I came here to see if anyone was also saying that? But apparently not.

Anyhow - that's what is going around the anti-vax, measles isn't that big a deal TikTok world - the child had "pre existing conditions" of RSV and Pneumonio, and then acquired measles while in the hospital. So they didn't die "of measles".

Even *if* that information were true (again - no source for it) -- STILL -- they would have died of the measles. Because a sick child in the hospital should not be getting measles - which could kill him in his weakened state. That's exactly why you vaccinate your kids - so if they are sick with other things, vaccine preventable diseases don't kill them.


This is what people don’t seem to understand.


What you don't understand is that pneumonia is deadly in and of its own. In fact it's very dangerous for you to not understand it because vaccination against respiratory viruses isn't going to guarantee protection from bacterial pneumonia that can kill you. You should always get an xray after you feel like you cannot get better fast enough from a bad respiratory virus case and not count on it to go away on its own. Antibiotics are effective and save lives if diagnosed early enough. Most people dying from flu die from pneumonia that gets too advanced. it's likely RSV that's created this complication . RSV vaccine is not mandatory.

Anyway, vast majority of kids are vaccinated, mine too and I am not worried. I am still trying to find out why all of you are so worried given that I am pretty sure your kids are vaccinated?


Healthcare worker here - a couple reasons to be concerned about generally declining vaccination rates and increasing measles outbreaks:

-Kids under age one cannot be vaccinated. So the more measles bounces around in the community, the more it puts innocent babies at risk even for parents who DO choose to vaccinate
-Immunocompromised are more susceptible - people who are on steroids, other types of immunosuppressants, chemotherapy, etc. It's more than you might think
-Measles, in particular, is literally the most contagious disease known of. It is airborne, lingers in the air to infect others for up to hours after the infected person leaves the room. So for the above groups, that puts them at risk not just from being in close contact from someone, but literally for just going to a grocery store where one infected person visited an hour prior.

I am not worried for my own kids because they are old enough to have been vaccinated. But friends who may be susceptible - i.e. a friend who has lupus and takes immunosuppressing medications; or a friend who is having a baby soon? Yes, in general, declining MMR rates and increasing outbreaks are concerning for them.

The extreme contagiousness of measles specifically is why when RFK Jr says that MMR vaccines are a "personal decision" - he is full of sh*t.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.


Yes, there is information. They died from measles, a wholly preventable disease.


Preexisting conditions?

Let's pretend the child had diabetes. What is your next step, after obtaining that information? I'm genuinely confused about why you need this information.


I'm not the anti-vax PP you were responding to but I came to this thread to figure out why I'm seeing people online talk about this child who died.

They seem to be saying the child who died of measles, actually was hospitalized with RSV AND Pneumonia as well and then picked up measles in the hospital.

I've seen that two places now. But they won't cite their source of that information. I came here to see if anyone was also saying that? But apparently not.

Anyhow - that's what is going around the anti-vax, measles isn't that big a deal TikTok world - the child had "pre existing conditions" of RSV and Pneumonio, and then acquired measles while in the hospital. So they didn't die "of measles".

Even *if* that information were true (again - no source for it) -- STILL -- they would have died of the measles. Because a sick child in the hospital should not be getting measles - which could kill him in his weakened state. That's exactly why you vaccinate your kids - so if they are sick with other things, vaccine preventable diseases don't kill them.


This is what people don’t seem to understand.


What you don't understand is that pneumonia is deadly in and of its own. In fact it's very dangerous for you to not understand it because vaccination against respiratory viruses isn't going to guarantee protection from bacterial pneumonia that can kill you. You should always get an xray after you feel like you cannot get better fast enough from a bad respiratory virus case and not count on it to go away on its own. Antibiotics are effective and save lives if diagnosed early enough. Most people dying from flu die from pneumonia that gets too advanced. it's likely RSV that's created this complication . RSV vaccine is not mandatory.

Anyway, vast majority of kids are vaccinated, mine too and I am not worried. I am still trying to find out why all of you are so worried given that I am pretty sure your kids are vaccinated?

Some of our kids are babies who can’t get vaccinated yet, genius.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The situation must be very bad since RFK, Jr is saying something needs to be done.

I am assuming it's far worse than we know.

SXSW, a major conference is supposed to happen in Austin. Thousands of people will be flying there. Measles is highly contagious. These people will be in airplanes with other people, and so on.



What a wonderful spreading event -- take measles all around the US!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.


Yes, there is information. They died from measles, a wholly preventable disease.


Preexisting conditions?

Let's pretend the child had diabetes. What is your next step, after obtaining that information? I'm genuinely confused about why you need this information.


I'm not the anti-vax PP you were responding to but I came to this thread to figure out why I'm seeing people online talk about this child who died.

They seem to be saying the child who died of measles, actually was hospitalized with RSV AND Pneumonia as well and then picked up measles in the hospital.

I've seen that two places now. But they won't cite their source of that information. I came here to see if anyone was also saying that? But apparently not.

Anyhow - that's what is going around the anti-vax, measles isn't that big a deal TikTok world - the child had "pre existing conditions" of RSV and Pneumonio, and then acquired measles while in the hospital. So they didn't die "of measles".

Even *if* that information were true (again - no source for it) -- STILL -- they would have died of the measles. Because a sick child in the hospital should not be getting measles - which could kill him in his weakened state. That's exactly why you vaccinate your kids - so if they are sick with other things, vaccine preventable diseases don't kill them.


This is what people don’t seem to understand.


What you don't understand is that pneumonia is deadly in and of its own. In fact it's very dangerous for you to not understand it because vaccination against respiratory viruses isn't going to guarantee protection from bacterial pneumonia that can kill you. You should always get an xray after you feel like you cannot get better fast enough from a bad respiratory virus case and not count on it to go away on its own. Antibiotics are effective and save lives if diagnosed early enough. Most people dying from flu die from pneumonia that gets too advanced. it's likely RSV that's created this complication . RSV vaccine is not mandatory.

Anyway, vast majority of kids are vaccinated, mine too and I am not worried. I am still trying to find out why all of you are so worried given that I am pretty sure your kids are vaccinated?

Herd immunity is a real thing. Children aren’t vaccinated until they’re 12-15 months old. Those of us who can’t get a vaccine or booster rely on herd immunity. Vaccines aren’t 100%. Herd immunity also relies on low disease prevalence.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.


Yes, there is information. They died from measles, a wholly preventable disease.


Preexisting conditions?

Let's pretend the child had diabetes. What is your next step, after obtaining that information? I'm genuinely confused about why you need this information.


I'm not the anti-vax PP you were responding to but I came to this thread to figure out why I'm seeing people online talk about this child who died.

They seem to be saying the child who died of measles, actually was hospitalized with RSV AND Pneumonia as well and then picked up measles in the hospital.

I've seen that two places now. But they won't cite their source of that information. I came here to see if anyone was also saying that? But apparently not.

Anyhow - that's what is going around the anti-vax, measles isn't that big a deal TikTok world - the child had "pre existing conditions" of RSV and Pneumonio, and then acquired measles while in the hospital. So they didn't die "of measles".

Even *if* that information were true (again - no source for it) -- STILL -- they would have died of the measles. Because a sick child in the hospital should not be getting measles - which could kill him in his weakened state. That's exactly why you vaccinate your kids - so if they are sick with other things, vaccine preventable diseases don't kill them.


This is what people don’t seem to understand.


What you don't understand is that pneumonia is deadly in and of its own. In fact it's very dangerous for you to not understand it because vaccination against respiratory viruses isn't going to guarantee protection from bacterial pneumonia that can kill you. You should always get an xray after you feel like you cannot get better fast enough from a bad respiratory virus case and not count on it to go away on its own. Antibiotics are effective and save lives if diagnosed early enough. Most people dying from flu die from pneumonia that gets too advanced. it's likely RSV that's created this complication . RSV vaccine is not mandatory.

Anyway, vast majority of kids are vaccinated, mine too and I am not worried. I am still trying to find out why all of you are so worried given that I am pretty sure your kids are vaccinated?


Healthcare worker here - a couple reasons to be concerned about generally declining vaccination rates and increasing measles outbreaks:

-Kids under age one cannot be vaccinated. So the more measles bounces around in the community, the more it puts innocent babies at risk even for parents who DO choose to vaccinate
-Immunocompromised are more susceptible - people who are on steroids, other types of immunosuppressants, chemotherapy, etc. It's more than you might think
-Measles, in particular, is literally the most contagious disease known of. It is airborne, lingers in the air to infect others for up to hours after the infected person leaves the room. So for the above groups, that puts them at risk not just from being in close contact from someone, but literally for just going to a grocery store where one infected person visited an hour prior.

I am not worried for my own kids because they are old enough to have been vaccinated. But friends who may be susceptible - i.e. a friend who has lupus and takes immunosuppressing medications; or a friend who is having a baby soon? Yes, in general, declining MMR rates and increasing outbreaks are concerning for them.

The extreme contagiousness of measles specifically is why when RFK Jr says that MMR vaccines are a "personal decision" - he is full of sh*t.

Thank you for this!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.


Yes, there is information. They died from measles, a wholly preventable disease.


Preexisting conditions?

Let's pretend the child had diabetes. What is your next step, after obtaining that information? I'm genuinely confused about why you need this information.


I'm not the anti-vax PP you were responding to but I came to this thread to figure out why I'm seeing people online talk about this child who died.

They seem to be saying the child who died of measles, actually was hospitalized with RSV AND Pneumonia as well and then picked up measles in the hospital.

I've seen that two places now. But they won't cite their source of that information. I came here to see if anyone was also saying that? But apparently not.

Anyhow - that's what is going around the anti-vax, measles isn't that big a deal TikTok world - the child had "pre existing conditions" of RSV and Pneumonio, and then acquired measles while in the hospital. So they didn't die "of measles".

Even *if* that information were true (again - no source for it) -- STILL -- they would have died of the measles. Because a sick child in the hospital should not be getting measles - which could kill him in his weakened state. That's exactly why you vaccinate your kids - so if they are sick with other things, vaccine preventable diseases don't kill them.


This is what people don’t seem to understand.


What you don't understand is that pneumonia is deadly in and of its own. In fact it's very dangerous for you to not understand it because vaccination against respiratory viruses isn't going to guarantee protection from bacterial pneumonia that can kill you. You should always get an xray after you feel like you cannot get better fast enough from a bad respiratory virus case and not count on it to go away on its own. Antibiotics are effective and save lives if diagnosed early enough. Most people dying from flu die from pneumonia that gets too advanced. it's likely RSV that's created this complication . RSV vaccine is not mandatory.

Anyway, vast majority of kids are vaccinated, mine too and I am not worried. I am still trying to find out why all of you are so worried given that I am pretty sure your kids are vaccinated?

Most vaccinated are nervous because they actually really don't believe what they say. They are terrified the things they put their trust in will fail them. They argue not to convince unvaccinated but themselves.


It's natural to be nervous about an outbreak, but I'm not going to be the one weeping bedside at the hospital because my family is vaccinated. Good luck to you antivaxxers.


Antivaxxers aren't the ones freaking out about this, they don't care if you weep for them, they made their choice. None of you can explain why you are in panic mode over this while your kids are fully vaccinated. Mine are and I am not worried, please tell me why I should be. Or are you just venting your anger because of something else not related to this specific situation? e.g. politics.
Anonymous
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/health/measles-montgomery-county-pennsylvania-unvaccinated-child/4122726/

Measles case confirmed in Philadelphia. Child waited at pediatrician's office for 3 hours. Measles droplets can stay in the air for two hours after a person with an infection is the room.

Too bad people thing wearing a mask is worse than getting a potentially deadly or crippling disease.
Anonymous
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/what-to-know-about-measles-and-vaccines

Information about measles from Johns Hopkins

Is measles dangerous?

Yes. Here in the U.S., about 1 in 5 unvaccinated people will require hospitalization from measles. In 2024, that rate was even higher—about 40% of people with measles were hospitalized. Measles can also lead to more severe issues, including pneumonia, encephalitis, brain damage, and pregnancy complications. Complications of measles can occur in anyone, including in healthy children and adults.

Scientists have found that measles wipes out the body’s memory of bacteria and viruses. This weakens your immune system, making you more likely to get sick from other diseases. This effect can last for years."

Another thing to consider: if you or your child has recently had COVID, your immune system may be weaker than normal.
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