I am talking to a lot of Democrats who want Trump to succeed.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m disappointed.
It seems like Trump is already walking back all of his promises.
He’s not actually going to deport illegals.
He’s not going to lower grocery prices.
He isn’t even going to pardon all the J6 patriots.


None of this is surprising, there are many more promises that will be fulfiled as long as he isn't filibustered.


Like what?
He’s now waffling on stopping support for Ukraine.
What are we getting here?
So far he only seems focused on revenge.
That doesn’t help the people.


Feds will be back to office, uneeded positions elimiated. A good start.


Feds back to office?!? Great! So now my tax dollars are going to pay $$$$ rent for feds to work downtown?! How is that bringing down the deficit? How is that eliminating waste?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m disappointed.
It seems like Trump is already walking back all of his promises.
He’s not actually going to deport illegals.
He’s not going to lower grocery prices.
He isn’t even going to pardon all the J6 patriots.


You are surprised a known serial liar lied? You're surprised a nepo baby billionaire who has never cared about anyone but himself doesn't care about his constituents or campaign promises?

"Don't call us morons, that's why we voted for Trump!" Scream morons who can't stop doing moronic things.

So here is how this shakes out:
MAGA voters
A) will never hear about the facts of Trump’s second term from their hermetically sealed
Conservative echo chamber. Fox News never covers it and in fact, Fox News will never mention immigration at all, and all of the Maga voters will believe it’s been solved.
B) the republicans will continue to malign the very institutions they now control as wasteful, dysfunctional, and corrupt. They will continue to be nihilistic turds for ( in most cases ) political gain and in other cases for ideological zealotry. And MAGA voters will continue to slide further down the toilet away from a belief in democracy. There is no expertise or competence. We as a country can’t conceive of doing big things. American exceptionalism is dead. And they will keep voting officials that tell them that. And then proving it. Rinse repeat.
C) we become a fully pay to play kleptocracy. And the masses buy Trump perfume and never notice the they got nothing.

Happy Holidays!


Thanks for your benighted analysis

Merry Christmas

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m disappointed.
It seems like Trump is already walking back all of his promises.
He’s not actually going to deport illegals.
He’s not going to lower grocery prices.
He isn’t even going to pardon all the J6 patriots.


You are surprised a known serial liar lied? You're surprised a nepo baby billionaire who has never cared about anyone but himself doesn't care about his constituents or campaign promises?

"Don't call us morons, that's why we voted for Trump!" Scream morons who can't stop doing moronic things.

So here is how this shakes out:
MAGA voters
A) will never hear about the facts of Trump’s second term from their hermetically sealed
Conservative echo chamber. Fox News never covers it and in fact, Fox News will never mention immigration at all, and all of the Maga voters will believe it’s been solved.
B) the republicans will continue to malign the very institutions they now control as wasteful, dysfunctional, and corrupt. They will continue to be nihilistic turds for ( in most cases ) political gain and in other cases for ideological zealotry. And MAGA voters will continue to slide further down the toilet away from a belief in democracy. There is no expertise or competence. We as a country can’t conceive of doing big things. American exceptionalism is dead. And they will keep voting officials that tell them that. And then proving it. Rinse repeat.
C) we become a fully pay to play kleptocracy. And the masses buy Trump perfume and never notice the they got nothing.

Happy Holidays!


I think one of the reasons that the left is so out of touch is that they use a framework of the right that existed 10 years ago. Their insistence that Fox News is the main source of information is a great example of this. Republicans left cable News behind a long time ago. So much, that if you answer that you get your News from cable, pollsters immediately identify you as being on the left.

The person here saying they are upset that Trump won't deport people, etc isn't on the right. I'm on the right, and I had never even HEARD the claim that Trump would free J6 prisoners until AFTER the election, when a Democratic relative brought it up. It wasn't a campaign promise. It was words that were, per usual, taken out of context and bandied about in the leftosphere to scare people. That person is most definitely a troll because no one on the right is really tracking this. And it would be a controversial point, because they shouldn't be given carte blanch pardons.

Similar for the border. The left breathlessly told everyone that Trump would not only deport illegals, but also all black people. I mean, what the...? That's just crazy. He only promised to aggressively attempt to remove illegals, starting with the most dangerous ones (violent criminals).

The economy? Yeah, that remains to be seen.




“Fox News” is short had for right wing media. Don’t be so pedantic.
Anonymous
*shorthand
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m disappointed.
It seems like Trump is already walking back all of his promises.
He’s not actually going to deport illegals.
He’s not going to lower grocery prices.
He isn’t even going to pardon all the J6 patriots.


You are surprised a known serial liar lied? You're surprised a nepo baby billionaire who has never cared about anyone but himself doesn't care about his constituents or campaign promises?

"Don't call us morons, that's why we voted for Trump!" Scream morons who can't stop doing moronic things.


"Now you have to pay attention to us, and treat us like we're important!" As if that old saw hadn't run out years ago. All the hand-holding in the world doesn't keep them from tanking the country, so those cries make no difference anymore.

If you want people to treat you with respect, eventually you have to do something worthy of respect. You can't be propped up by other people forever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes.
And we can start on December 20. If the democrats don’t get everything they want for the CR, then they should not help Johnson pass it.

The democrats need to stop being patsies. No more compromise. The democrats tried that with the lankford bill and it was a disaster.


Dems should do zero to help Johnson unless it benefits Democrats. Let the GOP shut down the government. It's going to be a turbulent ride so fasten your seat belts!

And that’s how Democrats roll. Glad we’ll soon have a President who’ll work to benefit ALL Americans.




I needed a good laugh this morning.


A rising tide floats all boats. Versus singling out specific people (minorities) to help.


So why for hundreds of years only white men have been singled out and the rest of our boats have holes in them?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

I think one of the reasons that the left is so out of touch is that they use a framework of the right that existed 10 years ago. Their insistence that Fox News is the main source of information is a great example of this. Republicans left cable News behind a long time ago. So much, that if you answer that you get your News from cable, pollsters immediately identify you as being on the left.

The person here saying they are upset that Trump won't deport people, etc isn't on the right. I'm on the right, and I had never even HEARD the claim that Trump would free J6 prisoners until AFTER the election, when a Democratic relative brought it up. It wasn't a campaign promise. It was words that were, per usual, taken out of context and bandied about in the leftosphere to scare people. That person is most definitely a troll because no one on the right is really tracking this. And it would be a controversial point, because they shouldn't be given carte blanch pardons.

Similar for the border. The left breathlessly told everyone that Trump would not only deport illegals, but also all black people. I mean, what the...? That's just crazy. He only promised to aggressively attempt to remove illegals, starting with the most dangerous ones (violent criminals).

The economy? Yeah, that remains to be seen.





Then you were not paying attention. Trump said this several times, during campaign speeches etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m disappointed.
It seems like Trump is already walking back all of his promises.
He’s not actually going to deport illegals.
He’s not going to lower grocery prices.
He isn’t even going to pardon all the J6 patriots.


You are surprised a known serial liar lied? You're surprised a nepo baby billionaire who has never cared about anyone but himself doesn't care about his constituents or campaign promises?

"Don't call us morons, that's why we voted for Trump!" Scream morons who can't stop doing moronic things.

So here is how this shakes out:
MAGA voters
A) will never hear about the facts of Trump’s second term from their hermetically sealed
Conservative echo chamber. Fox News never covers it and in fact, Fox News will never mention immigration at all, and all of the Maga voters will believe it’s been solved.
B) the republicans will continue to malign the very institutions they now control as wasteful, dysfunctional, and corrupt. They will continue to be nihilistic turds for ( in most cases ) political gain and in other cases for ideological zealotry. And MAGA voters will continue to slide further down the toilet away from a belief in democracy. There is no expertise or competence. We as a country can’t conceive of doing big things. American exceptionalism is dead. And they will keep voting officials that tell them that. And then proving it. Rinse repeat.
C) we become a fully pay to play kleptocracy. And the masses buy Trump perfume and never notice the they got nothing.

Happy Holidays!


I think one of the reasons that the left is so out of touch is that they use a framework of the right that existed 10 years ago. Their insistence that Fox News is the main source of information is a great example of this. Republicans left cable News behind a long time ago. So much, that if you answer that you get your News from cable, pollsters immediately identify you as being on the left.

The person here saying they are upset that Trump won't deport people, etc isn't on the right. I'm on the right, and I had never even HEARD the claim that Trump would free J6 prisoners until AFTER the election, when a Democratic relative brought it up. It wasn't a campaign promise. It was words that were, per usual, taken out of context and bandied about in the leftosphere to scare people. That person is most definitely a troll because no one on the right is really tracking this. And it would be a controversial point, because they shouldn't be given carte blanch pardons.

Similar for the border. The left breathlessly told everyone that Trump would not only deport illegals, but also all black people. I mean, what the...? That's just crazy. He only promised to aggressively attempt to remove illegals, starting with the most dangerous ones (violent criminals).

The economy? Yeah, that remains to be seen.




IME this is very generation dependent.

Never heard this. Can you be more specific where the "left" was "breathlessly" telling "everyone" this? There was really no need to embelish any of the ridiculous things coing out of his mouth.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I think one of the reasons that the left is so out of touch is that they use a framework of the right that existed 10 years ago. Their insistence that Fox News is the main source of information is a great example of this. Republicans left cable News behind a long time ago. So much, that if you answer that you get your News from cable, pollsters immediately identify you as being on the left.

The person here saying they are upset that Trump won't deport people, etc isn't on the right. I'm on the right, and I had never even HEARD the claim that Trump would free J6 prisoners until AFTER the election, when a Democratic relative brought it up. It wasn't a campaign promise. It was words that were, per usual, taken out of context and bandied about in the leftosphere to scare people. That person is most definitely a troll because no one on the right is really tracking this. And it would be a controversial point, because they shouldn't be given carte blanch pardons.

Similar for the border. The left breathlessly told everyone that Trump would not only deport illegals, but also all black people. I mean, what the...? That's just crazy. He only promised to aggressively attempt to remove illegals, starting with the most dangerous ones (violent criminals).

The economy? Yeah, that remains to be seen.





Then you were not paying attention. Trump said this several times, during campaign speeches etc.


Nope. I am a certified, incurable conservatard that listens to an average of 1.5 hours of right wing analysis per day. This was definitely not something that the right wing was tracking. I'll let you in on a secret. We don't think about J6 anymore. At all. So if Trump made this a cornerstone, we'd be like, okay this is what you're focused on right now, in the midst of a border crisis, a faltering economy, and a troubled security environment across the globe? It wouldn't have resonated. That poster is not right wing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I think one of the reasons that the left is so out of touch is that they use a framework of the right that existed 10 years ago. Their insistence that Fox News is the main source of information is a great example of this. Republicans left cable News behind a long time ago. So much, that if you answer that you get your News from cable, pollsters immediately identify you as being on the left.

The person here saying they are upset that Trump won't deport people, etc isn't on the right. I'm on the right, and I had never even HEARD the claim that Trump would free J6 prisoners until AFTER the election, when a Democratic relative brought it up. It wasn't a campaign promise. It was words that were, per usual, taken out of context and bandied about in the leftosphere to scare people. That person is most definitely a troll because no one on the right is really tracking this. And it would be a controversial point, because they shouldn't be given carte blanch pardons.

Similar for the border. The left breathlessly told everyone that Trump would not only deport illegals, but also all black people. I mean, what the...? That's just crazy. He only promised to aggressively attempt to remove illegals, starting with the most dangerous ones (violent criminals).

The economy? Yeah, that remains to be seen.





Then you were not paying attention. Trump said this several times, during campaign speeches etc.

Zero evidence, thanks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m disappointed.
It seems like Trump is already walking back all of his promises.
He’s not actually going to deport illegals.
He’s not going to lower grocery prices.
He isn’t even going to pardon all the J6 patriots.


You are surprised a known serial liar lied? You're surprised a nepo baby billionaire who has never cared about anyone but himself doesn't care about his constituents or campaign promises?

"Don't call us morons, that's why we voted for Trump!" Scream morons who can't stop doing moronic things.

So here is how this shakes out:
MAGA voters
A) will never hear about the facts of Trump’s second term from their hermetically sealed
Conservative echo chamber. Fox News never covers it and in fact, Fox News will never mention immigration at all, and all of the Maga voters will believe it’s been solved.
B) the republicans will continue to malign the very institutions they now control as wasteful, dysfunctional, and corrupt. They will continue to be nihilistic turds for ( in most cases ) political gain and in other cases for ideological zealotry. And MAGA voters will continue to slide further down the toilet away from a belief in democracy. There is no expertise or competence. We as a country can’t conceive of doing big things. American exceptionalism is dead. And they will keep voting officials that tell them that. And then proving it. Rinse repeat.
C) we become a fully pay to play kleptocracy. And the masses buy Trump perfume and never notice the they got nothing.

Happy Holidays!


I think one of the reasons that the left is so out of touch is that they use a framework of the right that existed 10 years ago. Their insistence that Fox News is the main source of information is a great example of this. Republicans left cable News behind a long time ago. So much, that if you answer that you get your News from cable, pollsters immediately identify you as being on the left.

The person here saying they are upset that Trump won't deport people, etc isn't on the right. I'm on the right, and I had never even HEARD the claim that Trump would free J6 prisoners until AFTER the election, when a Democratic relative brought it up. It wasn't a campaign promise. It was words that were, per usual, taken out of context and bandied about in the leftosphere to scare people. That person is most definitely a troll because no one on the right is really tracking this. And it would be a controversial point, because they shouldn't be given carte blanch pardons.

Similar for the border. The left breathlessly told everyone that Trump would not only deport illegals, but also all black people. I mean, what the...? That's just crazy. He only promised to aggressively attempt to remove illegals, starting with the most dangerous ones (violent criminals).

The economy? Yeah, that remains to be seen.




IME this is very generation dependent.

Never heard this. Can you be more specific where the "left" was "breathlessly" telling "everyone" this? There was really no need to embelish any of the ridiculous things coing out of his mouth.


Listen to the Q&A portion of Kamala Harris being interviewed on The Breakfast Club. Not only was this being talked about by leftists, Kamala never set it straight. She was asked outright about Trump wanting to deport black people and she did her, "mmm hmmm" to confirm its veracity. She never said, he's not going to deport black people, you lunatics-- the correct response. Also, around the same time, there was a thread about it here. At the time I responded with a breakdown of how implausible that is even logistically, to deport like 80M people in total.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m disappointed.
It seems like Trump is already walking back all of his promises.
He’s not actually going to deport illegals.
He’s not going to lower grocery prices.
He isn’t even going to pardon all the J6 patriots.


You are surprised a known serial liar lied? You're surprised a nepo baby billionaire who has never cared about anyone but himself doesn't care about his constituents or campaign promises?

"Don't call us morons, that's why we voted for Trump!" Scream morons who can't stop doing moronic things.

So here is how this shakes out:
MAGA voters
A) will never hear about the facts of Trump’s second term from their hermetically sealed
Conservative echo chamber. Fox News never covers it and in fact, Fox News will never mention immigration at all, and all of the Maga voters will believe it’s been solved.
B) the republicans will continue to malign the very institutions they now control as wasteful, dysfunctional, and corrupt. They will continue to be nihilistic turds for ( in most cases ) political gain and in other cases for ideological zealotry. And MAGA voters will continue to slide further down the toilet away from a belief in democracy. There is no expertise or competence. We as a country can’t conceive of doing big things. American exceptionalism is dead. And they will keep voting officials that tell them that. And then proving it. Rinse repeat.
C) we become a fully pay to play kleptocracy. And the masses buy Trump perfume and never notice the they got nothing.

Happy Holidays!


I think one of the reasons that the left is so out of touch is that they use a framework of the right that existed 10 years ago. Their insistence that Fox News is the main source of information is a great example of this. Republicans left cable News behind a long time ago. So much, that if you answer that you get your News from cable, pollsters immediately identify you as being on the left.

The person here saying they are upset that Trump won't deport people, etc isn't on the right. I'm on the right, and I had never even HEARD the claim that Trump would free J6 prisoners until AFTER the election, when a Democratic relative brought it up. It wasn't a campaign promise. It was words that were, per usual, taken out of context and bandied about in the leftosphere to scare people. That person is most definitely a troll because no one on the right is really tracking this. And it would be a controversial point, because they shouldn't be given carte blanch pardons.

Similar for the border. The left breathlessly told everyone that Trump would not only deport illegals, but also all black people. I mean, what the...? That's just crazy. He only promised to aggressively attempt to remove illegals, starting with the most dangerous ones (violent criminals).

The economy? Yeah, that remains to be seen.




IME this is very generation dependent.

Never heard this. Can you be more specific where the "left" was "breathlessly" telling "everyone" this? There was really no need to embelish any of the ridiculous things coing out of his mouth.


Here's the thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1237827.page

Right from the jump, the leftists are like "he's trying to make America WHITE!" Um, no, he's trying to remove the flood of illegals, which isn't a novel concept. The US has deported illegals for a long time. It's only recently that the left has promoted a view that citizenship and visitation rules aren't enforceable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m disappointed.
It seems like Trump is already walking back all of his promises.
He’s not actually going to deport illegals.
He’s not going to lower grocery prices.
He isn’t even going to pardon all the J6 patriots.


You are surprised a known serial liar lied? You're surprised a nepo baby billionaire who has never cared about anyone but himself doesn't care about his constituents or campaign promises?

"Don't call us morons, that's why we voted for Trump!" Scream morons who can't stop doing moronic things.

So here is how this shakes out:
MAGA voters
A) will never hear about the facts of Trump’s second term from their hermetically sealed
Conservative echo chamber. Fox News never covers it and in fact, Fox News will never mention immigration at all, and all of the Maga voters will believe it’s been solved.
B) the republicans will continue to malign the very institutions they now control as wasteful, dysfunctional, and corrupt. They will continue to be nihilistic turds for ( in most cases ) political gain and in other cases for ideological zealotry. And MAGA voters will continue to slide further down the toilet away from a belief in democracy. There is no expertise or competence. We as a country can’t conceive of doing big things. American exceptionalism is dead. And they will keep voting officials that tell them that. And then proving it. Rinse repeat.
C) we become a fully pay to play kleptocracy. And the masses buy Trump perfume and never notice the they got nothing.

Happy Holidays!


I think one of the reasons that the left is so out of touch is that they use a framework of the right that existed 10 years ago. Their insistence that Fox News is the main source of information is a great example of this. Republicans left cable News behind a long time ago. So much, that if you answer that you get your News from cable, pollsters immediately identify you as being on the left.

The person here saying they are upset that Trump won't deport people, etc isn't on the right. I'm on the right, and I had never even HEARD the claim that Trump would free J6 prisoners until AFTER the election, when a Democratic relative brought it up. It wasn't a campaign promise. It was words that were, per usual, taken out of context and bandied about in the leftosphere to scare people. That person is most definitely a troll because no one on the right is really tracking this. And it would be a controversial point, because they shouldn't be given carte blanch pardons.

Similar for the border. The left breathlessly told everyone that Trump would not only deport illegals, but also all black people. I mean, what the...? That's just crazy. He only promised to aggressively attempt to remove illegals, starting with the most dangerous ones (violent criminals).

The economy? Yeah, that remains to be seen.




“Fox News” is short had for right wing media. Don’t be so pedantic.


It's sad and wild that MAGAs like my parents now actually think Fox News is too left wing and "fake news" instead they get their "news" from even more dishonest fake news channels like NewsMax. And my father-in-law gets his RWNJ "news" from weirdos on Youtube.

Talk about sliding farther and farther down the rabbit hole, farther and farther from reality...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m disappointed.
It seems like Trump is already walking back all of his promises.
He’s not actually going to deport illegals.
He’s not going to lower grocery prices.
He isn’t even going to pardon all the J6 patriots.


You are surprised a known serial liar lied? You're surprised a nepo baby billionaire who has never cared about anyone but himself doesn't care about his constituents or campaign promises?

"Don't call us morons, that's why we voted for Trump!" Scream morons who can't stop doing moronic things.

So here is how this shakes out:
MAGA voters
A) will never hear about the facts of Trump’s second term from their hermetically sealed
Conservative echo chamber. Fox News never covers it and in fact, Fox News will never mention immigration at all, and all of the Maga voters will believe it’s been solved.
B) the republicans will continue to malign the very institutions they now control as wasteful, dysfunctional, and corrupt. They will continue to be nihilistic turds for ( in most cases ) political gain and in other cases for ideological zealotry. And MAGA voters will continue to slide further down the toilet away from a belief in democracy. There is no expertise or competence. We as a country can’t conceive of doing big things. American exceptionalism is dead. And they will keep voting officials that tell them that. And then proving it. Rinse repeat.
C) we become a fully pay to play kleptocracy. And the masses buy Trump perfume and never notice the they got nothing.

Happy Holidays!


I think one of the reasons that the left is so out of touch is that they use a framework of the right that existed 10 years ago. Their insistence that Fox News is the main source of information is a great example of this. Republicans left cable News behind a long time ago. So much, that if you answer that you get your News from cable, pollsters immediately identify you as being on the left.

The person here saying they are upset that Trump won't deport people, etc isn't on the right. I'm on the right, and I had never even HEARD the claim that Trump would free J6 prisoners until AFTER the election, when a Democratic relative brought it up. It wasn't a campaign promise. It was words that were, per usual, taken out of context and bandied about in the leftosphere to scare people. That person is most definitely a troll because no one on the right is really tracking this. And it would be a controversial point, because they shouldn't be given carte blanch pardons.

Similar for the border. The left breathlessly told everyone that Trump would not only deport illegals, but also all black people. I mean, what the...? That's just crazy. He only promised to aggressively attempt to remove illegals, starting with the most dangerous ones (violent criminals).

The economy? Yeah, that remains to be seen.




“Fox News” is short had for right wing media. Don’t be so pedantic.


It's sad and wild that MAGAs like my parents now actually think Fox News is too left wing and "fake news" instead they get their "news" from even more dishonest fake news channels like NewsMax. And my father-in-law gets his RWNJ "news" from weirdos on Youtube.

Talk about sliding farther and farther down the rabbit hole, farther and farther from reality...[/quote

All we need is real leader and legitimate POTUS to step up and that will eventually help to draw people out of their current political bubbles. The garbage we've had in The White House since Obama left has caused otherwise decent and intelligent people to go bonkers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m disappointed.
It seems like Trump is already walking back all of his promises.
He’s not actually going to deport illegals.
He’s not going to lower grocery prices.
He isn’t even going to pardon all the J6 patriots.


You are surprised a known serial liar lied? You're surprised a nepo baby billionaire who has never cared about anyone but himself doesn't care about his constituents or campaign promises?

"Don't call us morons, that's why we voted for Trump!" Scream morons who can't stop doing moronic things.

So here is how this shakes out:
MAGA voters
A) will never hear about the facts of Trump’s second term from their hermetically sealed
Conservative echo chamber. Fox News never covers it and in fact, Fox News will never mention immigration at all, and all of the Maga voters will believe it’s been solved.
B) the republicans will continue to malign the very institutions they now control as wasteful, dysfunctional, and corrupt. They will continue to be nihilistic turds for ( in most cases ) political gain and in other cases for ideological zealotry. And MAGA voters will continue to slide further down the toilet away from a belief in democracy. There is no expertise or competence. We as a country can’t conceive of doing big things. American exceptionalism is dead. And they will keep voting officials that tell them that. And then proving it. Rinse repeat.
C) we become a fully pay to play kleptocracy. And the masses buy Trump perfume and never notice the they got nothing.

Happy Holidays!


I think one of the reasons that the left is so out of touch is that they use a framework of the right that existed 10 years ago. Their insistence that Fox News is the main source of information is a great example of this. Republicans left cable News behind a long time ago. So much, that if you answer that you get your News from cable, pollsters immediately identify you as being on the left.

The person here saying they are upset that Trump won't deport people, etc isn't on the right. I'm on the right, and I had never even HEARD the claim that Trump would free J6 prisoners until AFTER the election, when a Democratic relative brought it up. It wasn't a campaign promise. It was words that were, per usual, taken out of context and bandied about in the leftosphere to scare people. That person is most definitely a troll because no one on the right is really tracking this. And it would be a controversial point, because they shouldn't be given carte blanch pardons.

Similar for the border. The left breathlessly told everyone that Trump would not only deport illegals, but also all black people. I mean, what the...? That's just crazy. He only promised to aggressively attempt to remove illegals, starting with the most dangerous ones (violent criminals).

The economy? Yeah, that remains to be seen.




“Fox News” is short had for right wing media. Don’t be so pedantic.


It's sad and wild that MAGAs like my parents now actually think Fox News is too left wing and "fake news" instead they get their "news" from even more dishonest fake news channels like NewsMax. And my father-in-law gets his RWNJ "news" from weirdos on Youtube.

Talk about sliding farther and farther down the rabbit hole, farther and farther from reality...


Fox is fairly moderate. But the bigger issue is, it's very shallow. No deep dives on issues, no historical context, no legal analysis. It's fine for headline news. But if you're looking for long form, in depth coverage, it's not there. BTW, the right hasn't moved to YouTube, a left wing platform. This is what I mean! You guys literally have no idea where people get their news or what they are hearing.
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