NCAP going downhill?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would not go so far as to say that they treat any of the kids as garbage, but this is certainly not “in the best interest of NCAP athlete development” as was stated in the email to GP families. Quite the opposite. Phil and Jeremy care deeply about the swimmers that they have been coaching, some of them for several years. Dan S doesn’t even know they exist.

Change is often hard. It can also be for the better even when that doesn't appear to be the case initially. People who are upset have choices, the most obvious being move on or get over your feelings and give Dan S a chance to prove himself.

You can't "move on" without losing the already-paid deposit for next season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would not go so far as to say that they treat any of the kids as garbage, but this is certainly not “in the best interest of NCAP athlete development” as was stated in the email to GP families. Quite the opposite. Phil and Jeremy care deeply about the swimmers that they have been coaching, some of them for several years. Dan S doesn’t even know they exist.

Change is often hard. It can also be for the better even when that doesn't appear to be the case initially. People who are upset have choices, the most obvious being move on or get over your feelings and give Dan S a chance to prove himself.

You can't "move on" without losing the already-paid deposit for next season.

Given you can get your deposit back if they once schedules come out and they don’t work, I’m sure you can ask for your 500.00 back and get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue with GP has never been the coaches, it has everything to do with the clients. The order of things is upside down and the results, drivel, and stupidity reflect this in and beyond the pool. What a shame. Oh and don’t forget, this is a business.

It’s a chicken or egg question. Yes, the parents are crazy, but BG basically encourages the craziness (or, at least, plays into it). It was a mostly normal place until about 2016/2017. Then you had total lunatic families come to swim at GP so that their kids could swim for BG (or could some day).

PP speaks the truth

[Anonymous]

something is off here

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would not go so far as to say that they treat any of the kids as garbage, but this is certainly not “in the best interest of NCAP athlete development” as was stated in the email to GP families. Quite the opposite. Phil and Jeremy care deeply about the swimmers that they have been coaching, some of them for several years. Dan S doesn’t even know they exist.

I’m just a looky loo from another site, but did they explain how the transition from Bruce to Dan is going to work and who is coaching what group this upcoming season? This whole thing just seems so odd.

Yes- sort of.

Bruce - “not retiring at this time” (but no other details)

Dan - G2/S2
Julie - B1

No other changes. So at some still unknown point Dan presumably moves to G1 and they will again be needing new coaches for G2 and S2.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:something is off here

No doubt. It makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Read the email that went to Prep and heard from a parent that Jeremy and Phil were *fired* and their salaries combined to hire this guy from Bucknell.

It's crazy (to me anyway) that this guy would take this job- NCap is so awful in so many ways.

Hope Phil's kids join our team! Would love to have them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would not go so far as to say that they treat any of the kids as garbage, but this is certainly not “in the best interest of NCAP athlete development” as was stated in the email to GP families. Quite the opposite. Phil and Jeremy care deeply about the swimmers that they have been coaching, some of them for several years. Dan S doesn’t even know they exist.

I’m just a looky loo from another site, but did they explain how the transition from Bruce to Dan is going to work and who is coaching what group this upcoming season? This whole thing just seems so odd.

Yes- sort of.

Bruce - “not retiring at this time” (but no other details)

Dan - G2/S2
Julie - B1

No other changes. So at some still unknown point Dan presumably moves to G1 and they will again be needing new coaches for G2 and S2.

So a D1 coach left his college gig to coach the HS kids not fast enough to be in Gold 1 and the MS kids not fast enough to be in Silver 1? That makes absolutely no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would not go so far as to say that they treat any of the kids as garbage, but this is certainly not “in the best interest of NCAP athlete development” as was stated in the email to GP families. Quite the opposite. Phil and Jeremy care deeply about the swimmers that they have been coaching, some of them for several years. Dan S doesn’t even know they exist.

I’m just a looky loo from another site, but did they explain how the transition from Bruce to Dan is going to work and who is coaching what group this upcoming season? This whole thing just seems so odd.

Yes- sort of.

Bruce - “not retiring at this time” (but no other details)

Dan - G2/S2
Julie - B1

No other changes. So at some still unknown point Dan presumably moves to G1 and they will again be needing new coaches for G2 and S2.

So a D1 coach left his college gig to coach the HS kids not fast enough to be in Gold 1 and the MS kids not fast enough to be in Silver 1? That makes absolutely no sense.

This certainly reads like this dude was going to get fired and so he quit and joined NCAP to preserve the narrative.

[Anonymous]

This is just another lesson: If you get to close to the sun, you will get burnt.

[Anonymous]

Maybe the HC at the site did not like one of the coaches favoring his own children?

[Anonymous]

He doesn’t even coach his own children, please tell us the scenario where he favored them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the HC at the site did not like one of the coaches favoring his own children?

Why would, and how could you say such a thing? This could never have been an issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the HC at the site did not like one of the coaches favoring his own children?

You’re literally making things up. He didn’t coach his kids.

[Anonymous]

While this was handled incredibly poorly and some very good people were cut, that is not the fault of this new guy. That is poor management and poor planning. The
Dan guy might be great. I feel bad that he is walking into such a mess, but that is on the main office and the deciding coaches at GP.