Pritzker urges Texas Gov. Greg Abbott to stop migrant dropoffs amid winter storm: ‘I plead with you for mercy’

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Anonymous wrote:We can afford to help people.

come to Sterling Middle school in Virginia and report back

the schools are overwhelmed. it negatively impacts existing US children.

but then again you Democrats behind gated communities dont care

no Virginia politician has EVER gone to Sterling Middle school or similar impacted schools. none

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I was driving past Sterling Middle School the other day at dismissal and felt as if I was in a border town.

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Please do not post anything using the vile, racist term "illegals."
Human beings are not illegal.
These are immigrants, most of whom have crossed the border legally. Some may have crossed without documentation, but that does not make these human beings "illegal."
Have you ever gotten a parking ticket? Overstaying your parking is illegal -- are you an "illegal" because of your illegal action?

DP. I suggest you find another thread if the phrase "illegal immigrant" or "illegal alien" (the official term used by the federal gov't) triggers you so. Go scold elsewhere. Let the adults talk.

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a Democrat, the reaction of blue cities and Democrats to these dropoffs has swayed me to the Republican side on immigration. Why should Texas and other states on the frontlines deal alone with the burden of undocumented immigrants and the effects of failed national immigration policy? It’s perfectly fair to share the burden. Let Chicago, NYC, and other blue cities deal with it just as they expected El Paso, Laredo, and Brownsville to deal with it.

Another liberal here who is the daughter and wife of immigrants, and is typically pro-immigration - and I totally agree with you. This is a huge problem and we can't underestimate the burden this puts on border states like Texas. However, Abbott would get a lot more support if he coordinated and tried to cooperate with blue cities and states to take migrants in. "Hey, I have three busloads that have family in Chicago and want to go there, will there be support waiting for them if they leave on Thursday?" Then, if Pritzker says no, we can't handle them, everyone will see him as the hypocrate he is.

I'm a Chicago native who lived for several years in Texas. Perhaps I'm naive to think that states should be working together here since the Feds seem to be doing nothing about this problem. Blue states and cities should absolutely be stepping up to the plate here.

Why do you put the immigration problem and policy failures on the feet of Democrats when Republicans - in the majority in the house and nearly in the Senate - have done NOTHING to meaningfully address reform? Even basic things like requiring e-verify for employers …. Republicans could easily make this happen but they don’t. So you’re going to have to explain to me what Republican are doing to solve the problem and why you are blaming Democrats as a default.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow this is the same governor who a little over two years ago declared Illinois to be the most welcoming state to immigrants! This is the official Illinois press release from then;

Gov. Pritzker Signs Legislation Further Establishing Illinois as the Most Welcoming State in the Nation
Press Release - Monday, August 02, 2021

Issues Executive Order Establishing the Welcoming Illinois Office

Four New Bills Further Expand Protections for Immigrant and Refugee Communities

AURORA - Governor JB Pritzker today signed HB 121, SB 667, SB 1596 and SB 2665 into law, legislation expanding protections for immigrant and refugee communities and further establishing Illinois as the most welcoming state in the nation. The new laws strengthen the TRUST Act and make Illinois the second state in the nation to require local officials to end partnerships with ICE, address hate crimes against immigrant communities, expand workplace protections for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients, and create the Illinois Immigration Impact Task Force to ensure state programs and policies best serve immigrant residents.

Illinois is still a welcoming state, but it doesn't want migrants from Latin America to come to freezing Chicago in the winter where they could die because they don't have warm clothing, and Chicago doesn't have warm places for them to sleep.

There are plenty of pro-illegal immigrant nonprofits that could be clothing these illegal immigrants. Take it up with them. Or Biden. In the meantime, this will continue until new border legislation has been passed.
DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow this is the same governor who a little over two years ago declared Illinois to be the most welcoming state to immigrants! This is the official Illinois press release from then;

Gov. Pritzker Signs Legislation Further Establishing Illinois as the Most Welcoming State in the Nation
Press Release - Monday, August 02, 2021

Issues Executive Order Establishing the Welcoming Illinois Office

Four New Bills Further Expand Protections for Immigrant and Refugee Communities

AURORA - Governor JB Pritzker today signed HB 121, SB 667, SB 1596 and SB 2665 into law, legislation expanding protections for immigrant and refugee communities and further establishing Illinois as the most welcoming state in the nation. The new laws strengthen the TRUST Act and make Illinois the second state in the nation to require local officials to end partnerships with ICE, address hate crimes against immigrant communities, expand workplace protections for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients, and create the Illinois Immigration Impact Task Force to ensure state programs and policies best serve immigrant residents.

Illinois is still a welcoming state, but it doesn't want migrants from Latin America to come to freezing Chicago in the winter where they could die because they don't have warm clothing, and Chicago doesn't have warm places for them to sleep.

Where do the good people of Illinois think the migrants should go? Just stay in Texas and southern states?

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Out of sight, out of mind - anywhere but in their backyard. Which is why this is so effective. Finally, Democrats are waking up to reality on the border.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are sociopaths. They don't care. They don't care if people freeze, starve, or whatever. And, the cruelty isn't by accident, it's by design.

What’s stopping the people living in the sanctuary city of Chicago from housing these people? Why don’t the good democrats take them in to stop them from freezing to death?

What is Chicago supposed to do, pick up a stick along a roadside and wave it around Harry Potter style while yelling "Habitatum ex nihilo" expecting housing to magically appear out of nowhere?

That’s what Texas is expected to do.

It’s amazing that you don’t realize that.

No state or city can deal with the numbers of people flooding the border. Texas is showing people what has been happening there for years.

Wait until the hospitals, ERs, and schools of Chicago feel the full impact. It’s devastating. I lived in South Texas for 4 years and relocated for work recently. My family still lives there. It’s becoming worse by the day.

It is amazing that you don't realize that if it is wrong and a hardship to have no control over people "flooding" the state, it is EQUALLY IF NOT MORE wrong to intentionally do that to another state. It is as though people never learned that two wrongs don't make a right...

You really do think it's ok for the border states to have to CONTINUE shouldering this enormous burden on their own, don't you? Of course you do.
DP

I do not think they should have to continue shouldering this enormous burden.

I think there is a better way to share that burden than dumping people.

In other words, we agree on the problem. We do not agree on the solution.

Correct. I think the solution is securing the border to stop the masses of illegal immigrants from entering the U.S. Apparently, the only way to get the attention of Democrats is to literally bring the crisis to them and make it even a fraction as uncomfortable as it is in Texas. Perhaps then, Democrats will see their way clear to actually DOING something about it.

Simple people (you) want simple solutions to complex problems (immigration).

This problem (too many immigrants at the US Southern Border) has so many causes, including US sanctions that have devastated governments in Latin America. When people are starving or facing certain death in their country, they will do ANYTHING to survive.
The US needs to address the problem at its root: South and Central America, from whence these migrants come. If the US worked a little harder to address economic problems in the countries like Venezuela where many of the migrants at the US border originate, the migrant problem would lessen. Further, the GOP needs to stop blocking immigration reform. There are thousands of jobs in the US currently filled by immigrants without documentation, and many more low-paid jobs go unfilled because employers can't find Americans to take them. The US needs to allow more workers into this country to work legally. It needs to provide a path to citizenship to children who came here without documentation through no fault of their own. It needs to completely change the immigration laws, hire more judges and create more immigration courts, and streamline the immigration process, which is as convoluted and crazy as the tax code, even moreso.
Shutting the border is an impossible task. You can't close a gigantic border, nor can you "build a wall" which is the dumbest idea ever, but it appeals to the suckers who want simple solutions to complex problems.
There is much more to be done to address the immigration problem, but letting starving, desperate migrants build up at the southern border won't solve the problem. Many things must be done, starting with updating the immigration laws to reflect the realities of 2024, and sending economic aid to South and Central American countries whose people are starving.

Talk about simpleminded. At this point, you've got to be a troll. Sure, let's flush billions MORE dollars down the toilet by giving it to corrupt governments who have no intention of using the aid to help their people - as we've done for decades. Nope. That's got to be the dumbest suggestion yet. What is needed is what Republicans are pushing for - new, strict border LEGISLATION. Not more money - laws. No one is interested in the moronic musings of a bleeding heart LWNJ (who has no intention of housing any of these illegal immigrants in her home to begin with).

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Anonymous wrote:Wow this is the same governor who a little over two years ago declared Illinois to be the most welcoming state to immigrants! This is the official Illinois press release from then;

Gov. Pritzker Signs Legislation Further Establishing Illinois as the Most Welcoming State in the Nation
Press Release - Monday, August 02, 2021

Issues Executive Order Establishing the Welcoming Illinois Office

Four New Bills Further Expand Protections for Immigrant and Refugee Communities

AURORA - Governor JB Pritzker today signed HB 121, SB 667, SB 1596 and SB 2665 into law, legislation expanding protections for immigrant and refugee communities and further establishing Illinois as the most welcoming state in the nation. The new laws strengthen the TRUST Act and make Illinois the second state in the nation to require local officials to end partnerships with ICE, address hate crimes against immigrant communities, expand workplace protections for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients, and create the Illinois Immigration Impact Task Force to ensure state programs and policies best serve immigrant residents.

Illinois is still a welcoming state, but it doesn't want migrants from Latin America to come to freezing Chicago in the winter where they could die because they don't have warm clothing, and Chicago doesn't have warm places for them to sleep.

Texas has many, many more migrants and it is FREEEZING tonight in Texas. Thousands are crossing EVERY DAY in Texas. Where is Texas supposed to put them? The low tonight on the border at Laredo, Texas is 24 degrees! The low in Eagle Pass Texas is 22 degrees. The low in Houston is 23 degrees. The low in Dallas is 16 degrees! How do you not understand it can freeze in Texas too!

These people are beyond help. I've never seen such utter simpletons in my life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are sociopaths. They don't care. They don't care if people freeze, starve, or whatever. And, the cruelty isn't by accident, it's by design.

LOL! you'd turn your back on a fellow American in a heartbeat I bet ya.

Don't project your own sociopathic behavior on others.

I bet you aren't posting from an area overwhelmed with immigrants who are here illegally.

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a Democrat, the reaction of blue cities and Democrats to these dropoffs has swayed me to the Republican side on immigration. Why should Texas and other states on the frontlines deal alone with the burden of undocumented immigrants and the effects of failed national immigration policy? It’s perfectly fair to share the burden. Let Chicago, NYC, and other blue cities deal with it just as they expected El Paso, Laredo, and Brownsville to deal with it.

Another liberal here who is the daughter and wife of immigrants, and is typically pro-immigration - and I totally agree with you. This is a huge problem and we can't underestimate the burden this puts on border states like Texas. However, Abbott would get a lot more support if he coordinated and tried to cooperate with blue cities and states to take migrants in. "Hey, I have three busloads that have family in Chicago and want to go there, will there be support waiting for them if they leave on Thursday?" Then, if Pritzker says no, we can't handle them, everyone will see him as the hypocrate he is.

I'm a Chicago native who lived for several years in Texas. Perhaps I'm naive to think that states should be working together here since the Feds seem to be doing nothing about this problem. Blue states and cities should absolutely be stepping up to the plate here.

Why do you put the immigration problem and policy failures on the feet of Democrats when Republicans - in the majority in the house and nearly in the Senate - have done NOTHING to meaningfully address reform? Even basic things like requiring e-verify for employers …. Republicans could easily make this happen but they don’t. So you’re going to have to explain to me what Republican are doing to solve the problem and why you are blaming Democrats as a default.

You do realize requiring e-Verify is a big part of HR-2, right? Try educating yourself. Democrats are the ones holding up this bill.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/118/hr2/summary

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Anonymous wrote:Another point: Why WOULDN'T they come? They arrive in America, and they're met with the welcome mat. You may not be pleased to see them arrive, but nevertheless they are getting the royal treatment.

They're given free food, medical care, clothing, shelter once it's arranged, and so on.

These illegal aliens are given more than what Americans are getting from their government. Tax payers themselves, the children and grandchildren of tax paying Americans, they don't have free food, free medical care, free clothing, or free shelter. They're working two and three jobs just to pay for their food, clothing and shelter. They're doing without medical care because they can't afford it.

No, they aren't given free everything. But it's people like you who keep suggesting that, which is then used as a way to keep encouraging more to come.

DP. What world are you living in? Serious question. Because if you were actually living in the U.S., you'd know that they are indeed given free everything - free shelter, free medical care, free food, free education. Why are you lying?

No, they aren't. Undocumented migrants pay their own rents, pay for their own food, and get billed for medical treatment. And EVERYONE gets free public school, you aren't expected to pay for that, either. But a big chunk of school funding comes out of local property taxes, which undocumented migrants pay via their rents, because any landlord with a clue bakes that into the cost buildup for setting the rent and pays it out of rental income. Note also that undocumented migrants are not eligible for any federal benefits. The only place where taxpayers end up on the hook is with people with asylum-seeker status, which is different from being an illegal alien. We have to house and feed them because the law says so. Republican HR 2 doesn't actually change that. And we can't just send them back because the law says we can't until they have a hearing to determine whether they can be deported or whether they are adjudicated as asylees. And there is a massive backlog because Republicans won't agree to add more judges and officials to speed up the hearings. HR 2 doesn't address that either. So what world are you living in, that you are completely oblivious to so many facts of law and reality?

Really?

This is in Denver.......

Denver Health — the city’s hospital safety net — saw $10 million in additional "uncompensated care" in the last year, which the health system attributed to the tens of thousands of medical visits from immigrant patients from South and Central America.

The rise in costs coincides with — and health officials attribute to — the unprecedented number of immigrants, who have crossed America's border illegally and arrived in Denver.

“Overall, these patients don’t have medical insurance,” said Dr. Taylor McCormick, associate director of Pediatrics Emergency Medicine at Denver Health. “Denver Health is eating the cost for many of these visits.”

Many of these new patients have underlining medical conditions or have run out of or no longer have prescriptions, McCormick said. A large number also suffer from diarrhea, rashes and skin conditions, as well as injuries associated with the nearly 3,000-mile arduous journey from Venezuela to the United States.

As of noon Tuesday, Denver had welcomed 37,571 immigrants.

Early in the humanitarian crisis, city officials decided to take on the cost of temporarily providing food and shelter as well as transportation for those seeking to put down roots elsewhere.

The city has been reimbursed roughly $14.1 million of the $38 million in associated expenses, meaning Denver taxpayers are picking up most of the tab.

Denver Mayor Mike Johnston has already asked department heads to find 10%-to-15% in savings to brace what is expected to be a $180 million cost this year, if the crush of new arrivals does not abate.

In the discussions about the need for work permits and additional funding to support these newly arriving immigrants, scant attention has been paid to their health care needs, some have said.

In 2022, Denver Health saw $125 million in "uncompensated care." Last year, it ballooned to $135 million. In 2020, the price of uncompensated care stood at $60 million.

Federico estimated that the bulk of the $10 million difference in uncompensated care between 2022 and 2023 was related to the influx of new immigrants using the health system.

The surge in new immigrant patients from South and Central America equates to roughly 8,000 people and 20,000 visits, Federico said.

https://denvergazette.com/news/new-immigrants-pose-difficult-dilemma-as-denver-health-sees-thousands-of-unpaid-medical-visits/article_93bbba78-b4b0-11ee-83bf-93150c61a814.html

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a Democrat, the reaction of blue cities and Democrats to these dropoffs has swayed me to the Republican side on immigration. Why should Texas and other states on the frontlines deal alone with the burden of undocumented immigrants and the effects of failed national immigration policy? It’s perfectly fair to share the burden. Let Chicago, NYC, and other blue cities deal with it just as they expected El Paso, Laredo, and Brownsville to deal with it.

Another liberal here who is the daughter and wife of immigrants, and is typically pro-immigration - and I totally agree with you. This is a huge problem and we can't underestimate the burden this puts on border states like Texas. However, Abbott would get a lot more support if he coordinated and tried to cooperate with blue cities and states to take migrants in. "Hey, I have three busloads that have family in Chicago and want to go there, will there be support waiting for them if they leave on Thursday?" Then, if Pritzker says no, we can't handle them, everyone will see him as the hypocrate he is.

I'm a Chicago native who lived for several years in Texas. Perhaps I'm naive to think that states should be working together here since the Feds seem to be doing nothing about this problem. Blue states and cities should absolutely be stepping up to the plate here.

Why do you put the immigration problem and policy failures on the feet of Democrats when Republicans - in the majority in the house and nearly in the Senate - have done NOTHING to meaningfully address reform? Even basic things like requiring e-verify for employers …. Republicans could easily make this happen but they don’t. So you’re going to have to explain to me what Republican are doing to solve the problem and why you are blaming Democrats as a default.

You do realize requiring e-Verify is a big part of HR-2, right? Try educating yourself. Democrats are the ones holding up this bill.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/118/hr2/summary

E-verify can be required at the state level. Florida tried it and saw labor costs skyrocket. No other conservative state has followed suit

[Anonymous]

Bumbling stumbling dementia Joe has caused this crisis. As for Abbot he is rightfully dropping them off at sanctuary cities and states. TX isn’t a sanctuary state so dropping them off is a viable solution.

Unfortunately the Bumblung, Stumbkibg Biden regime won’t close off the borders until the issue is fixed. They should close down the borders until they come up with a viable solution to the Biden illegal alien crisis by only allowing in this with legitimate asylum cases and only if they make it to a correct port of entry

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Anonymous wrote:Wow this is the same governor who a little over two years ago declared Illinois to be the most welcoming state to immigrants! This is the official Illinois press release from then;

Gov. Pritzker Signs Legislation Further Establishing Illinois as the Most Welcoming State in the Nation
Press Release - Monday, August 02, 2021

Issues Executive Order Establishing the Welcoming Illinois Office

Four New Bills Further Expand Protections for Immigrant and Refugee Communities

AURORA - Governor JB Pritzker today signed HB 121, SB 667, SB 1596 and SB 2665 into law, legislation expanding protections for immigrant and refugee communities and further establishing Illinois as the most welcoming state in the nation. The new laws strengthen the TRUST Act and make Illinois the second state in the nation to require local officials to end partnerships with ICE, address hate crimes against immigrant communities, expand workplace protections for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients, and create the Illinois Immigration Impact Task Force to ensure state programs and policies best serve immigrant residents.

Illinois is still a welcoming state, but it doesn't want migrants from Latin America to come to freezing Chicago in the winter where they could die because they don't have warm clothing, and Chicago doesn't have warm places for them to sleep.

Where do the good people of Illinois think the migrants should go? Just stay in Texas and southern states?

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Out of sight, out of mind - anywhere but in their backyard. Which is why this is so effective. Finally, Democrats are waking up to reality on the border.

Surely the good people of the sanctuary cities that have sanctuary policies will take them and give them shelter. It won’t be long before they will be forcing the citizens to house them. One place cancelled school to house illegal aliens

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow this is the same governor who a little over two years ago declared Illinois to be the most welcoming state to immigrants! This is the official Illinois press release from then;

Gov. Pritzker Signs Legislation Further Establishing Illinois as the Most Welcoming State in the Nation
Press Release - Monday, August 02, 2021

Issues Executive Order Establishing the Welcoming Illinois Office

Four New Bills Further Expand Protections for Immigrant and Refugee Communities

AURORA - Governor JB Pritzker today signed HB 121, SB 667, SB 1596 and SB 2665 into law, legislation expanding protections for immigrant and refugee communities and further establishing Illinois as the most welcoming state in the nation. The new laws strengthen the TRUST Act and make Illinois the second state in the nation to require local officials to end partnerships with ICE, address hate crimes against immigrant communities, expand workplace protections for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients, and create the Illinois Immigration Impact Task Force to ensure state programs and policies best serve immigrant residents.

Illinois is still a welcoming state, but it doesn't want migrants from Latin America to come to freezing Chicago in the winter where they could die because they don't have warm clothing, and Chicago doesn't have warm places for them to sleep.

Where do the good people of Illinois think the migrants should go? Just stay in Texas and southern states?

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Out of sight, out of mind - anywhere but in their backyard. Which is why this is so effective. Finally, Democrats are waking up to reality on the border.

Surely the good people of the sanctuary cities that have sanctuary policies will take them and give them shelter. It won’t be long before they will be forcing the citizens to house them. One place cancelled school to house illegal aliens

Post a link on that

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow this is the same governor who a little over two years ago declared Illinois to be the most welcoming state to immigrants! This is the official Illinois press release from then;

Gov. Pritzker Signs Legislation Further Establishing Illinois as the Most Welcoming State in the Nation
Press Release - Monday, August 02, 2021

Issues Executive Order Establishing the Welcoming Illinois Office

Four New Bills Further Expand Protections for Immigrant and Refugee Communities

AURORA - Governor JB Pritzker today signed HB 121, SB 667, SB 1596 and SB 2665 into law, legislation expanding protections for immigrant and refugee communities and further establishing Illinois as the most welcoming state in the nation. The new laws strengthen the TRUST Act and make Illinois the second state in the nation to require local officials to end partnerships with ICE, address hate crimes against immigrant communities, expand workplace protections for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients, and create the Illinois Immigration Impact Task Force to ensure state programs and policies best serve immigrant residents.

Illinois is still a welcoming state, but it doesn't want migrants from Latin America to come to freezing Chicago in the winter where they could die because they don't have warm clothing, and Chicago doesn't have warm places for them to sleep.

Where do the good people of Illinois think the migrants should go? Just stay in Texas and southern states?

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Out of sight, out of mind - anywhere but in their backyard. Which is why this is so effective. Finally, Democrats are waking up to reality on the border.

Surely the good people of the sanctuary cities that have sanctuary policies will take them and give them shelter. It won’t be long before they will be forcing the citizens to house them. One place cancelled school to house illegal aliens

Post a link on that

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna133236

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/new-york-school-faces-backlash-for-housing-migrants-theyll-come-for-homes-next-elon-musk-101704859534639-amp.html