What can American women learn from foreign women?

[Anonymous]

European men aren't as judgey as american men so European women can dress scandalous and not be condemned for it..

Eastern European women dress very sexy to attract rich men.
Many hookup sites are based in Europe to lure foreigners in.
European women are more open about sex and don't shave or bathe often same applies to European men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Foreign born woman here. American women are miles ahead in most aspects.

Only thing i can think of is being more feminine and focusing more on their appearance.

Foreign-born here as well. In what way? I don't think of myself as ahead or better than American women but I don't see how American women are "miles ahead" either.

The English language probably. I worked with smart ambitious foreigners but they'd want me to write emails for them sometimes or dictate and had trouble being understood.

Go to a local Chic fil a with Latino managers. Guarantee the person taking your order is the only 1 who can speak good english.

[Anonymous]

Of course European women do more to appease men - no objecting, no strong opinions, go with the flow, be feminine and sexy. They live in societies where a woman’s wellbeing is based upon the support of a man.

Women in America are as educated and make as much money as men. Women in America are not like foreign women bc they don’t have to be like them. American women can pay their own way and don’t need to rely on their looks and feminine demeanor to survive.

These posts are exhausting. If foreign women are so great then go find one. As it turns out, the large majority of American men marry American women. So instead of wishing American women would change, how about embracing them for who they are and the strengths they bring to a relationship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:American women talk SO LOUD! Please stop talking SO LOUD!

I agree. I am Canadian, and the Americans talk the loudest at conferences.

Yep, I'm European and I can tell in an airport passport check line which one has the Americans. They also take so much space.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:European men aren't as judgey as american men so European women can dress scandalous and not be condemned for it..

Eastern European women dress very sexy to attract rich men.
Many hookup sites are based in Europe to lure foreigners in.
European women are more open about sex and don't shave or bathe often same applies to European men.

That post makes me horny

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What can we learn? That lower cost education, universal healthcare, paid maternity/ paternity leave, lack of high fructose corn syrup in everything, and decent public transportation all conspire to make foreign women much more feminine and sexier.

+1,000

And worker protections, shorter workweeks and longer vacations make them more relaxed and provide the time to care for themselves.

I'm also adding that the birth rate has been decreasing for a very long time, so a lot of us inherited assets, including paid housing, from family. I'm seeing a lot of divorces and affairs in my group, because why not. A lot of America women are miserable and put up with so much because divorce means financial ruin. We have a more relaxed lifestyle and more resources imo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course European women do more to appease men - no objecting, no strong opinions, go with the flow, be feminine and sexy. They live in societies where a woman’s wellbeing is based upon the support of a man.

Women in America are as educated and make as much money as men. Women in America are not like foreign women bc they don’t have to be like them. American women can pay their own way and don’t need to rely on their looks and feminine demeanor to survive.

These posts are exhausting. If foreign women are so great then go find one. As it turns out, the large majority of American men marry American women. So instead of wishing American women would change, how about embracing them for who they are and the strengths they bring to a relationship.

What you wrote is untrue. In former USSR women were socially, sexually and economically emancipated at least 30 years earlier than in the US. 4 generations of my female predecessors were working full time, were either equal earners or breadwinners in their families, and had nannies. At the same time my grandmother taught me to cook and to tailor dresses. It’s just a culture to be feminine out there, and maintain gender roles. Average education level was also higher (and free) than in the US. You are comparing average American women to highly educated women who moved to DC area from abroad (on scholarship, thanks to parental money etc). These are apples vs oranges. An average American born woman who lives in dmv has totally different (and often lower social level upbringing). Professional American men in dmv are hunting for successful foreign born women for a reason. It’s a way for them to “upgrade” to a higher social level partner- both in looks, demeanor and education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What can we learn? That lower cost education, universal healthcare, paid maternity/ paternity leave, lack of high fructose corn syrup in everything, and decent public transportation all conspire to make foreign women much more feminine and sexier.

+1,000

And worker protections, shorter workweeks and longer vacations make them more relaxed and provide the time to care for themselves.

I'm also adding that the birth rate has been decreasing for a very long time, so a lot of us inherited assets, including paid housing, from family. I'm seeing a lot of divorces and affairs in my group, because why not. A lot of America women are miserable and put up with so much because divorce means financial ruin. We have a more relaxed lifestyle and more resources imo.

Exactly - “nuclear” family was extremely common in former USSR. One child and done! This allowed women re-enter workforce sooner, maintain her youthful body, and retire in their 40s as usually that only child is born before shes 25. In the US the church traditions to have 3 and more kids are still very strong

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course European women do more to appease men - no objecting, no strong opinions, go with the flow, be feminine and sexy. They live in societies where a woman’s wellbeing is based upon the support of a man.

Women in America are as educated and make as much money as men. Women in America are not like foreign women bc they don’t have to be like them. American women can pay their own way and don’t need to rely on their looks and feminine demeanor to survive.

These posts are exhausting. If foreign women are so great then go find one. As it turns out, the large majority of American men marry American women. So instead of wishing American women would change, how about embracing them for who they are and the strengths they bring to a relationship.

What you wrote is untrue. In former USSR women were socially, sexually and economically emancipated at least 30 years earlier than in the US. 4 generations of my female predecessors were working full time, were either equal earners or breadwinners in their families, and had nannies. At the same time my grandmother taught me to cook and to tailor dresses. It’s just a culture to be feminine out there, and maintain gender roles. Average education level was also higher (and free) than in the US. You are comparing average American women to highly educated women who moved to DC area from abroad (on scholarship, thanks to parental money etc). These are apples vs oranges. An average American born woman who lives in dmv has totally different (and often lower social level upbringing). Professional American men in dmv are hunting for successful foreign born women for a reason. It’s a way for them to “upgrade” to a higher social level partner- both in looks, demeanor and education.

Insofar as this happens— and statistically it’s at vanishingly small levels—it’s because they’re not successful with successful American women. Typically because the kind of person who does this is already divorced, given the wide majority of successful American men are married to highly educated American women. Northern/Western European women aren’t trampling down the doors for American women’s rejects.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course European women do more to appease men - no objecting, no strong opinions, go with the flow, be feminine and sexy. They live in societies where a woman’s wellbeing is based upon the support of a man.

Women in America are as educated and make as much money as men. Women in America are not like foreign women bc they don’t have to be like them. American women can pay their own way and don’t need to rely on their looks and feminine demeanor to survive.

These posts are exhausting. If foreign women are so great then go find one. As it turns out, the large majority of American men marry American women. So instead of wishing American women would change, how about embracing them for who they are and the strengths they bring to a relationship.

What you wrote is untrue. In former USSR women were socially, sexually and economically emancipated at least 30 years earlier than in the US. 4 generations of my female predecessors were working full time, were either equal earners or breadwinners in their families, and had nannies. At the same time my grandmother taught me to cook and to tailor dresses. It’s just a culture to be feminine out there, and maintain gender roles. Average education level was also higher (and free) than in the US. You are comparing average American women to highly educated women who moved to DC area from abroad (on scholarship, thanks to parental money etc). These are apples vs oranges. An average American born woman who lives in dmv has totally different (and often lower social level upbringing). Professional American men in dmv are hunting for successful foreign born women for a reason. It’s a way for them to “upgrade” to a higher social level partner- both in looks, demeanor and education.

Insofar as this happens— and statistically it’s at vanishingly small levels—it’s because they’re not successful with successful American women. Typically because the kind of person who does this is already divorced, given the wide majority of successful American men are married to highly educated American women. Northern/Western European women aren’t trampling down the doors for American women’s rejects.

NP. What makes you think guys seeking foreign women are being rejected by American women? If given the choice, very few American men would choose American women over foreign women. Most Americans don't speak a foreign language and don't have the resources or income to live in another country. The problem is that unless you live in a foreign country, it's a logistical nightmare to date someone from another country. And your options for dating a foreign born woman if you live in the US is very limited.

[Anonymous]

Nothing! I say this as a foreign woman lol
Be glad you are American, you have it easier than women in my homeland who have to cater to men to stay relevant and sometimes to survive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course European women do more to appease men - no objecting, no strong opinions, go with the flow, be feminine and sexy. They live in societies where a woman’s wellbeing is based upon the support of a man.

Women in America are as educated and make as much money as men. Women in America are not like foreign women bc they don’t have to be like them. American women can pay their own way and don’t need to rely on their looks and feminine demeanor to survive.

These posts are exhausting. If foreign women are so great then go find one. As it turns out, the large majority of American men marry American women. So instead of wishing American women would change, how about embracing them for who they are and the strengths they bring to a relationship.

What you wrote is untrue. In former USSR women were socially, sexually and economically emancipated at least 30 years earlier than in the US. 4 generations of my female predecessors were working full time, were either equal earners or breadwinners in their families, and had nannies. At the same time my grandmother taught me to cook and to tailor dresses. It’s just a culture to be feminine out there, and maintain gender roles. Average education level was also higher (and free) than in the US. You are comparing average American women to highly educated women who moved to DC area from abroad (on scholarship, thanks to parental money etc). These are apples vs oranges. An average American born woman who lives in dmv has totally different (and often lower social level upbringing). Professional American men in dmv are hunting for successful foreign born women for a reason. It’s a way for them to “upgrade” to a higher social level partner- both in looks, demeanor and education.

Maybe you’re part of the Moscow (or whatever city) elite but don’t kid yourself that women in rural ex-USSR are any more emancipated than their US counterparts.

I agree about women just being allowed to be women in all of Europe while competing while in the US, there’s a very complex expectation of never being allowed to be nurturing or “soft” while in the same moment being told that skirts are better than pant suits. It’s a bit exhausting.

[Anonymous]

Generalizing is inherently rough justice.

I dated a lot of foreign women, and married one.

I wanted a Catholic, a women who took pride in her appearance, wasn’t angry about gender roles, and intelligent. Career didn’t matter to me either way for her- there are advantages to a career and no career. But good formal education was a requirement.

In truth I met a number of really nice American women that met most of these criteria but never a catholic one that did. Of course they exist! Just the way it worked out.

At the extreme end of the spectrum is the so-called passport bro, and they are their own type of guy looking to arbitrate for a higher status.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course European women do more to appease men - no objecting, no strong opinions, go with the flow, be feminine and sexy. They live in societies where a woman’s wellbeing is based upon the support of a man.

Women in America are as educated and make as much money as men. Women in America are not like foreign women bc they don’t have to be like them. American women can pay their own way and don’t need to rely on their looks and feminine demeanor to survive.

These posts are exhausting. If foreign women are so great then go find one. As it turns out, the large majority of American men marry American women. So instead of wishing American women would change, how about embracing them for who they are and the strengths they bring to a relationship.

What you wrote is untrue. In former USSR women were socially, sexually and economically emancipated at least 30 years earlier than in the US. 4 generations of my female predecessors were working full time, were either equal earners or breadwinners in their families, and had nannies. At the same time my grandmother taught me to cook and to tailor dresses. It’s just a culture to be feminine out there, and maintain gender roles. Average education level was also higher (and free) than in the US. You are comparing average American women to highly educated women who moved to DC area from abroad (on scholarship, thanks to parental money etc). These are apples vs oranges. An average American born woman who lives in dmv has totally different (and often lower social level upbringing). Professional American men in dmv are hunting for successful foreign born women for a reason. It’s a way for them to “upgrade” to a higher social level partner- both in looks, demeanor and education.

Maybe you’re part of the Moscow (or whatever city) elite but don’t kid yourself that women in rural ex-USSR are any more emancipated than their US counterparts.

I agree about women just being allowed to be women in all of Europe while competing while in the US, there’s a very complex expectation of never being allowed to be nurturing or “soft” while in the same moment being told that skirts are better than pant suits. It’s a bit exhausting.

I’m describing far more remote locations across Russia and Ukraine than Moscow, and dating back into 1930s. Small farmers, military, teachers etc. Yes, social and educational level of mentioned family improved drastically 1930s-2000s. But all women had worked at par with men. It was pre- and after WW2, are you kidding? Women pulled a lot of weight including financial. There was no SAHM thing in USSR. It became a norm for American women to work relatively recently.

[Anonymous]

Ladies the men who share the more offensive views in this thread are not people you’d want to be with. I see these men in the wild and feel sorry for the women they’ve managed to rope in regardless of nationality.