UVA EA Stats

[Anonymous]

Something no one has mentioned— as restrictive early action numbers go up, so does applications to schools like UVA, UNC and UMich, since applicants are permitted to apply early action only to public universities. To many of these students, the public schools are back ups, which could drive yield down at the state schools. Deferred students and waitlists provide a hedge for the schools.

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Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

The beauty of the Virginia system is that SCHEV provides a wealth of statistics so you shoujd have known that deferral was likely. If the 75th percentile of ENROLLED students last year had a 1520 and a 4.53 and the median of enrolled students has a 4.4, why did you think you had a lock on admission? These are enrolled figures. The stats for accepted students are even higher since some extraordinary students (wealthier than us) pick and Ivy or SLACs over UVA. If you aren’t familiar with SCHEV blame your high school counselor. The information is all out there -for all public and privates in the Commonwealth. UVA is no longer a safety for anyone.

I'm not the one you're responding to but we were surprised by the deferral because of what naviance showed for dc's HS. I would think that Naviance is a much more accurate gage than SCHEV since they're constantly saying you are compared to students in your own HS.

Naviance is a useful tool but it is always out-of-date and relies only upon self-reported info. Even if three years out of date (my understanding), which Naviance is - (and doesn’t it also use combined scores? Not year-by-year?) -being even a year out of date is critical during the COViD years when TO came into being and the entire system went crazy. Schools were inundated with TO applications they would not have otherwise received. Admissions offices had to adjust to a new normal level of increased applications snd less info by which to make a decision. Also, parents slammed hard financially in March 2020 suddenly started looking at publics whereas before COViD they could have afforded private. So the numbers of applications kept jumping at UVA and W&M (also Virginia tech). It doesn’t help that these AOs are being told to enroll URM and First-generations no matter what the cost. If you are a black legacy you have a 4x chance of getting into UVA. Yes, that’s google able.

Do you hear yourself? The cost? What, homogeny? Of course, no URM or 1st Gen could possibly be as good a student. The must automatically be less qualified/intelligent.

[Anonymous]

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uv...egular-decision-admission.html

I totally agree. They deferred 5500 kids yesterday - plus more in December. And they will ultimately accept likely fewer than 100 of these? It's bordering on unethical.

[Anonymous]

Gotta love the people who don’t even see the problem with writing that the URMs and first gen kids aren't qualified.

Think about how much you helped your kid through all this and imagine how much more together the first gen kids gave to be since the don’t have that help.

[Anonymous]

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Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uv...egular-decision-admission.html

I totally agree. They deferred 5500 kids yesterday - plus more in December. And they will ultimately accept likely fewer than 100 of these? It's bordering on unethical.

Careful questioning UVA. I had the "audacity" to question the deferral process and was suddenly labeled a UVA hater.

[Anonymous]

Correct. Dean J’s blog makes it clear that they know, by school, what makes a top applicant. They are also pretty clear that grades and rigor are far more important than SATs. I know DCUM is obsessed with high SATs, but I get the impression UVA is not.

I have appreciated Dean J's transparency throughout this process, but am more questioning after the EA results of kids I know from the same school. The determinative factors were definitely not grades and rigor, which Dean J has emphasized many times.

[Anonymous]

My VA resident DC applied RD to UVA. I wonder how many (if any) seats are left for RD.

[Anonymous]

This is a very valid point! Thanks for bringing this up!

Anonymous wrote:Something no one has mentioned— as restrictive early action numbers go up, so does applications to schools like UVA, UNC and UMich, since applicants are permitted to apply early action only to public universities. To many of these students, the public schools are back ups, which could drive yield down at the state schools. Deferred students and waitlists provide a hedge for the schools.

[Anonymous]

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Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uv...egular-decision-admission.html

I totally agree. They deferred 5500 kids yesterday - plus more in December. And they will ultimately accept likely fewer than 100 of these? It's bordering on unethical.

Careful questioning UVA. I had the "audacity" to question the deferral process and was suddenly labeled a UVA hater.

I don’t know why deferrals are surprising to you, widespread deferrals have been the main story of this admissions cycle. UVA has been much more judicis and transparent about their use of them than other schools. Perhaps UVA is among the more selective of the schools your child applied to, so this is your first experience with it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uv...egular-decision-admission.html

I totally agree. They deferred 5500 kids yesterday - plus more in December. And they will ultimately accept likely fewer than 100 of these? It's bordering on unethical.

Careful questioning UVA. I had the "audacity" to question the deferral process and was suddenly labeled a UVA hater.

I don’t know why deferrals are surprising to you, widespread deferrals have been the main story of this admissions cycle. UVA has been much more judicis and transparent about their use of them than other schools. Perhaps UVA is among the more selective of the schools your child applied to, so this is your first experience with it.

It's not. 3rd this cycle. Thank you for your concern.

[Anonymous]

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Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uv...egular-decision-admission.html

I totally agree. They deferred 5500 kids yesterday - plus more in December. And they will ultimately accept likely fewer than 100 of these? It's bordering on unethical.

Is it unethical that Georgetown only admits or defers during EA? What about Harvard, when a vast majority of kids are deferred during EA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DS in, in state, 4.3 weighted. 3.9 UW. FCPS. TO. 9 APs
EC- 2 varsity sports all 4 years. Club sports.

Test scores?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gotta love the people who don’t even see the problem with writing that the URMs and first gen kids aren't qualified.

Think about how much you helped your kid through all this and imagine how much more together the first gen kids gave to be since the don’t have that help.

Why wouldn’t their parents be able to help them? The info is very easy to find.

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Anonymous wrote:DS in, in state, 4.3 weighted. 3.9 UW. FCPS. TO. 9 APs
EC- 2 varsity sports all 4 years. Club sports.

Test scores?

TO-->Test Optional

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected OOS. 1550, 4.71 WGPA, IB Diploma with 9 APs
Definitely a disappointment.

Wow. I’m so sorry

I'm sorry, too. Incredible stats - and I'm sure a terrific kid as well. That doesn't just happen without amazing parents. If you have apps still out, good news is probably just around the corner. Best of luck with the rest of your applications!

In case your kid is feeling a little down...worth a read: https://raisingamericans.substack.com/p/deferred-or-rejected-by-a-dream-school