UVA EA Stats

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Anonymous wrote:I can also say that Legacy means nothing at UVA. We support the school for the wonderful experience that my wife and I had (we met there 25 years ago) and have gladly supported them not because we were trying to buy admissions for our children. If my kid wasn’t competitive OOS state with 1560SAT and 3.91 UGPA then they can say goodbye to our support in the future

OOS legacy applicants are reviewed with the in state pool. That’s a pretty big bump. In state legacies don’t get as much of a bump.

I don’t think OOS legacies are considered any more with the In-state pool. I believe
AO Greg Roberts changed that policy quietly about a year sbd a half ago and I learned that here and was surprised. I can’t find that link now. I’m not a member of the UVA legacy fact page so can’t access. Perhaps a UVA member can look it up for us.

According to a meeting I attended, OOS were never considered as in the instate pool. They are aware that people say this but they say it’s a myth. The legacy admit rate is higher but they also say that the stats of legacy students who are accepted are higher than non legacies.

[Anonymous]

Dean J said legacy was never “in state.” It was how they explained the advantage, but people got mad because it didn’t apply to tuition.

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Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

Your tax dollars have funded lots of great schools, too, and I have no doubt he’ll get into one of those.

And very few of your tax dollars are going to UVA anyway. That’s the price they paid for more autonomy from the state.

UVA gets more per in state undergraduate students than most of the state schools.

I don’t think that’s correct. Virginia is pretty notorious for cutting higher ed spending over time.

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PP here. I didn’t realize they meant that other Virginia colleges. I was thinking they were saying Virginia spends more per student than other states.

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Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

The beauty of the Virginia system is that SCHEV provides a wealth of statistics so you shoujd have known that deferral was likely. If the 75th percentile of ENROLLED students last year had a 1520 and a 4.53 and the median of enrolled students has a 4.4, why did you think you had a lock on admission? These are enrolled figures. The stats for accepted students are even higher since some extraordinary students (wealthier than us) pick and Ivy or SLACs over UVA. If you aren’t familiar with SCHEV blame your high school counselor. The information is all out there -for all public and privates in the Commonwealth. UVA is no longer a safety for anyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can also say that Legacy means nothing at UVA. We support the school for the wonderful experience that my wife and I had (we met there 25 years ago) and have gladly supported them not because we were trying to buy admissions for our children. If my kid wasn’t competitive OOS state with 1560SAT and 3.91 UGPA then they can say goodbye to our support in the future

OOS legacy applicants are reviewed with the in state pool. That’s a pretty big bump. In state legacies don’t get as much of a bump.

I don’t think OOS legacies are considered any more with the In-state pool. I believe
AO Greg Roberts changed that policy quietly about a year sbd a half ago and I learned that here and was surprised. I can’t find that link now. I’m not a member of the UVA legacy fact page so can’t access. Perhaps a UVA member can look it up for us.

According to a meeting I attended, OOS were never considered as in the instate pool. They are aware that people say this but they say it’s a myth. The legacy admit rate is higher but they also say that the stats of legacy students who are accepted are higher than non legacies.

Thank you. I’m f you go back to old College Confidential posts (2009) Dean J definitely says considered with the “in-state pool” but that’s beside the point. Thank you. SonOOS legacy is “just considered”. That’s useful info

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. I didn’t realize they meant that other Virginia colleges. I was thinking they were saying Virginia spends more per student than other states. [/quote


Well it certainly doesn’t at UVA. UVA gets only 6% of its budget from the Commonwealth. Otherwise, it is now self-sustaining

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

The beauty of the Virginia system is that SCHEV provides a wealth of statistics so you shoujd have known that deferral was likely. If the 75th percentile of ENROLLED students last year had a 1520 and a 4.53 and the median of enrolled students has a 4.4, why did you think you had a lock on admission? These are enrolled figures. The stats for accepted students are even higher since some extraordinary students (wealthier than us) pick and Ivy or SLACs over UVA. If you aren’t familiar with SCHEV blame your high school counselor. The information is all out there -for all public and privates in the Commonwealth. UVA is no longer a safety for anyone.

I'm not the one you're responding to but we were surprised by the deferral because of what naviance showed for dc's HS. I would think that Naviance is a much more accurate gage than SCHEV since they're constantly saying you are compared to students in your own HS.

[Anonymous]

deferred in state 35 act, 95 wgpa (private uses 100 pt scale), 1 ap test no ap classes bc private doesn't offer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

Your tax dollars have funded lots of great schools, too, and I have no doubt he’ll get into one of those.

And very few of your tax dollars are going to UVA anyway. That’s the price they paid for more autonomy from the state.

UVA gets more per in state undergraduate students than most of the state schools.

No, it wanted more freedom so spun itself off a decade ago. It now receives only 6 percent of operating budget from the legislature. This is discussed in UVA’s wiki page. At the same time it did this, UVA put so much effort into successfully building its endowment (with alumni dollars) that the state later tried to get it back. Lol

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Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

The beauty of the Virginia system is that SCHEV provides a wealth of statistics so you shoujd have known that deferral was likely. If the 75th percentile of ENROLLED students last year had a 1520 and a 4.53 and the median of enrolled students has a 4.4, why did you think you had a lock on admission? These are enrolled figures. The stats for accepted students are even higher since some extraordinary students (wealthier than us) pick and Ivy or SLACs over UVA. If you aren’t familiar with SCHEV blame your high school counselor. The information is all out there -for all public and privates in the Commonwealth. UVA is no longer a safety for anyone.

I'm not the one you're responding to but we were surprised by the deferral because of what naviance showed for dc's HS. I would think that Naviance is a much more accurate gage than SCHEV since they're constantly saying you are compared to students in your own HS.

Naviance is a useful tool but it is always out-of-date and relies only upon self-reported info. Even if three years out of date (my understanding), which Naviance is - (and doesn’t it also use combined scores? Not year-by-year?) -being even a year out of date is critical during the COViD years when TO came into being and the entire system went crazy. Schools were inundated with TO applications they would not have otherwise received. Admissions offices had to adjust to a new normal level of increased applications snd less info by which to make a decision. Also, parents slammed hard financially in March 2020 suddenly started looking at publics whereas before COViD they could have afforded private. So the numbers of applications kept jumping at UVA and W&M (also Virginia tech). It doesn’t help that these AOs are being told to enroll URM and First-generations no matter what the cost. If you are a black legacy you have a 4x chance of getting into UVA. Yes, that’s google able.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

The beauty of the Virginia system is that SCHEV provides a wealth of statistics so you shoujd have known that deferral was likely. If the 75th percentile of ENROLLED students last year had a 1520 and a 4.53 and the median of enrolled students has a 4.4, why did you think you had a lock on admission? These are enrolled figures. The stats for accepted students are even higher since some extraordinary students (wealthier than us) pick and Ivy or SLACs over UVA. If you aren’t familiar with SCHEV blame your high school counselor. The information is all out there -for all public and privates in the Commonwealth. UVA is no longer a safety for anyone.

I'm not the one you're responding to but we were surprised by the deferral because of what naviance showed for dc's HS. I would think that Naviance is a much more accurate gage than SCHEV since they're constantly saying you are compared to students in your own HS.

The accuracy of naviance is dependent upon how many years of data it includes. Unless your school only goes back two or three years (I think most schools go back 5 years), it will overstate chance of admission at most schools, not just UVA.

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DS in, in state, 4.3 weighted. 3.9 UW. FCPS. TO. 9 APs
EC- 2 varsity sports all 4 years. Club sports.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can also say that Legacy means nothing at UVA. We support the school for the wonderful experience that my wife and I had (we met there 25 years ago) and have gladly supported them not because we were trying to buy admissions for our children. If my kid wasn’t competitive OOS state with 1560SAT and 3.91 UGPA then they can say goodbye to our support in the future

OOS legacy applicants are reviewed with the in state pool. That’s a pretty big bump. In state legacies don’t get as much of a bump.

I don’t think OOS legacies are considered any more with the In-state pool. I believe
AO Greg Roberts changed that policy quietly about a year sbd a half ago and I learned that here and was surprised. I can’t find that link now. I’m not a member of the UVA legacy fact page so can’t access. Perhaps a UVA member can look it up for us.

According to a meeting I attended, OOS were never considered as in the instate pool. They are aware that people say this but they say it’s a myth. The legacy admit rate is higher but they also say that the stats of legacy students who are accepted are higher than non legacies.

Thank you. I’m f you go back to old College Confidential posts (2009) Dean J definitely says considered with the “in-state pool” but that’s beside the point. Thank you. SonOOS legacy is “just considered”. That’s useful info

I’m on College Confidential and searched. All I found was her saying out of state legacies aren’t considered in-state.

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Anonymous wrote:DS in, in state, 4.3 weighted. 3.9 UW. FCPS. TO. 9 APs
EC- 2 varsity sports all 4 years. Club sports.

UVA has very specific prompts. I really think they read them and pay attention more than other schools.