Chastised for not tipping on a to go order

[Anonymous]

I went to a self serve sandwich shop, where they are pre packed and you pay up front. Not only did pre arranged tips of 15, 20 and 25% come up but the only other option was other. I had to press other, then enter 0, and then pay. Literally the worker did nothing but press a button corresponding to the sandwich I bought.

It seems like over the last year these tip suggestions have spread everywhere. Even some fast food have them now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I went to a self serve sandwich shop, where they are pre packed and you pay up front. Not only did pre arranged tips of 15, 20 and 25% come up but the only other option was other. I had to press other, then enter 0, and then pay. Literally the worker did nothing but press a button corresponding to the sandwich I bought.

It seems like over the last year these tip suggestions have spread everywhere. Even some fast food have them now.

I think Target, Walmart, and grocery stores may be next in this trend.

[Anonymous]

If you pay in cash, you can avoid the suggested tip on the screen. I have been without a credit card while waiting on a new one after fraudulent activity, and I'll round up to the nearest $5 or $10 on takeout. No uncomfortable exchanges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in the NYC area where minimum wage is 15 dollars an hour. I do not tip for takeout, and that was not a thing when I was growing up (I’m in my thirties.) tipping is out of control. I tip for services where I am waited on- like sit down meals at restaurants, haircuts, curbside check in at the airport, etc.

You are misinformed.

Combining Cash Wages and Tips
New York State law allows employers in all industries other than building service to satisfy the minimum wage by combining a “cash wage” paid by the employer with a credit or allowance for tips that the employee receives from customers. For example, the minimum wage for food service workers in New York City is $15.00 per hour. Their employers can satisfy the minimum wage by combining a cash wage of at least $10.00 with a tip allowance of no more than $5.00 per hour.

Food Service Workers have a minimum hourly wage with a maximum hourly tip credit as
follows:
(1) New York City for
(i) Large Employers of eleven or more employees
$7.50 Cash Wage, $3.50 Credit, $11.00 Total on and after December 31, 2016;
$8.65 Cash Wage, $4.35 Credit, $13.00 Total on and after December 31, 2017;
$10.00 Cash Wage, $5.00 Credit, $15.00 Total on and after December 31, 2018;
(ii) Small Employers of ten or fewer employees
$7.50 Cash Wage, $3.00 Credit, $10.50 Total on and after December 31, 2016;
$8.00 Cash Wage, $4.00 Credit, $12.00 Total on and after December 31, 2017;
$9.00 Cash Wage, $4.50 Credit, $13.50 Total on and after December 31, 2018;
$10.00 Cash Wage, $5.00 Credit, $15.00 Total on and after December 31, 2019;

https://dol.ny.gov/minimum-wage-tipped-workers#

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Either an entitled waitress or one that's on the spectrum with rigid rules.

I would have responded in the same way, OP.

OP initiated the sequence of events with her cheapness and entitled attitude.

Scroll up a bit. The restaurant owner disagrees with you. A tip on takeout is appreciated, but not expected, and certainly not demanded.

I don't have to scroll up to know how to treat workers with kindness.

Well the staff at this restaurant didn’t treat OP with kindness, so maybe you still have some life lessons to learn.

No, the worker didn't respond with kindness. Most of us don't get that kind of response from restaurant employees because we treat them with kindness and respect and show our appreciation by tipping them for their service. You have an opportunity to do better in the coming new year!😊👍

Uhhh, no. No one is entitled to tips. And if you demand a tip, you are rude and should be fired. People like you are encouraging this ridiculous, entitled behavior. Congrats.

No one is entitled to a tip. And you can continue to act like a cheap jerk.

Tipping has nothing to do with being kind or being a jerk. You are paying for the quality of service. In this instance there was no service.

Oh, I thought someone prepared a to go order for the OP. Maybe she got her order from a vending machine?

Guess the OP should tip the cook, the dishwasher, the rest of the kitchen staff too since they all contributed to the making the food?

Not to worry. I doubt the OP wouldn't even consider giving a dime to any of them.

Nor would the majority of people.

Nor should they, because they’re getting paid the amount they agreed to work for. This overtipping nonsense feels creepily paternalistic. Some of you feel so pleased with yourselves for tossing a few bucks at people you deem lesser than you. It’s more about you than them, and that’s exactly what these stupid iPad point-of-sale systems are capitalizing on.

We've all noted your tiresome efforts to rationalize your cheapness.

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Either an entitled waitress or one that's on the spectrum with rigid rules.

I would have responded in the same way, OP.

OP initiated the sequence of events with her cheapness and entitled attitude.

Scroll up a bit. The restaurant owner disagrees with you. A tip on takeout is appreciated, but not expected, and certainly not demanded.

I don't have to scroll up to know how to treat workers with kindness.

Well the staff at this restaurant didn’t treat OP with kindness, so maybe you still have some life lessons to learn.

No, the worker didn't respond with kindness. Most of us don't get that kind of response from restaurant employees because we treat them with kindness and respect and show our appreciation by tipping them for their service. You have an opportunity to do better in the coming new year!😊👍

Uhhh, no. No one is entitled to tips. And if you demand a tip, you are rude and should be fired. People like you are encouraging this ridiculous, entitled behavior. Congrats.

No one is entitled to a tip. And you can continue to act like a cheap jerk.

Tipping has nothing to do with being kind or being a jerk. You are paying for the quality of service. In this instance there was no service.

Oh, I thought someone prepared a to go order for the OP. Maybe she got her order from a vending machine?

Guess the OP should tip the cook, the dishwasher, the rest of the kitchen staff too since they all contributed to the making the food?

Not to worry. I doubt the OP wouldn't even consider giving a dime to any of them.

Nor would the majority of people.

Nor should they, because they’re getting paid the amount they agreed to work for. This overtipping nonsense feels creepily paternalistic. Some of you feel so pleased with yourselves for tossing a few bucks at people you deem lesser than you. It’s more about you than them, and that’s exactly what these stupid iPad point-of-sale systems are capitalizing on.

We've all noted your tiresome efforts to rationalize your cheapness.

I don’t care. I worked in restaurants for years, both back of the house and front, tipped and untipped. I feel pretty good about my thoughts on this matter.

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Either an entitled waitress or one that's on the spectrum with rigid rules.

I would have responded in the same way, OP.

OP initiated the sequence of events with her cheapness and entitled attitude.

Scroll up a bit. The restaurant owner disagrees with you. A tip on takeout is appreciated, but not expected, and certainly not demanded.

I don't have to scroll up to know how to treat workers with kindness.

Well the staff at this restaurant didn’t treat OP with kindness, so maybe you still have some life lessons to learn.

No, the worker didn't respond with kindness. Most of us don't get that kind of response from restaurant employees because we treat them with kindness and respect and show our appreciation by tipping them for their service. You have an opportunity to do better in the coming new year!😊👍

Uhhh, no. No one is entitled to tips. And if you demand a tip, you are rude and should be fired. People like you are encouraging this ridiculous, entitled behavior. Congrats.

No one is entitled to a tip. And you can continue to act like a cheap jerk.

Tipping has nothing to do with being kind or being a jerk. You are paying for the quality of service. In this instance there was no service.

Oh, I thought someone prepared a to go order for the OP. Maybe she got her order from a vending machine?

Guess the OP should tip the cook, the dishwasher, the rest of the kitchen staff too since they all contributed to the making the food?

Not to worry. I doubt the OP wouldn't even consider giving a dime to any of them.

Nor would the majority of people.

Nor should they, because they’re getting paid the amount they agreed to work for. This overtipping nonsense feels creepily paternalistic. Some of you feel so pleased with yourselves for tossing a few bucks at people you deem lesser than you. It’s more about you than them, and that’s exactly what these stupid iPad point-of-sale systems are capitalizing on.

This! This! This! The only relevant comment to the whole discussion!

[Anonymous]

Just tip when you feel like it. No big deal

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Anonymous wrote:
Either an entitled waitress or one that's on the spectrum with rigid rules.

I would have responded in the same way, OP.

OP initiated the sequence of events with her cheapness and entitled attitude.

Scroll up a bit. The restaurant owner disagrees with you. A tip on takeout is appreciated, but not expected, and certainly not demanded.

I don't have to scroll up to know how to treat workers with kindness.

Well the staff at this restaurant didn’t treat OP with kindness, so maybe you still have some life lessons to learn.

No, the worker didn't respond with kindness. Most of us don't get that kind of response from restaurant employees because we treat them with kindness and respect and show our appreciation by tipping them for their service. You have an opportunity to do better in the coming new year!😊👍

Uhhh, no. No one is entitled to tips. And if you demand a tip, you are rude and should be fired. People like you are encouraging this ridiculous, entitled behavior. Congrats.

No one is entitled to a tip. And you can continue to act like a cheap jerk.

Tipping has nothing to do with being kind or being a jerk. You are paying for the quality of service. In this instance there was no service.

Oh, I thought someone prepared a to go order for the OP. Maybe she got her order from a vending machine?

Guess the OP should tip the cook, the dishwasher, the rest of the kitchen staff too since they all contributed to the making the food?

Not to worry. I doubt the OP wouldn't even consider giving a dime to any of them.

Nor would the majority of people.

Nor should they, because they’re getting paid the amount they agreed to work for. This overtipping nonsense feels creepily paternalistic. Some of you feel so pleased with yourselves for tossing a few bucks at people you deem lesser than you. It’s more about you than them, and that’s exactly what these stupid iPad point-of-sale systems are capitalizing on.

We've all noted your tiresome efforts to rationalize your cheapness.

Hit too close to home, did it?

[Anonymous]

I look at it as making someone’s day just a little bit better.

We were on a road trip once and other than a hole in the wall deli, the only place to eat was Pizza Hut. Our server was unbelievably kind and great at her job. DH went to the bathroom and overheard her talking to someone in the kitchen about some bad life stuff with kid. DH left her $500 tip and thank you for the great service note. We left before she came back to the table. As w were pulling out, we could see her burst into tears through the window. Never know how much $5, $50 or $500 can change someone’s life. If I can get $50 in carry out on Friday night $55-60 isn’t a stretch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I look at it as making someone’s day just a little bit better.

We were on a road trip once and other than a hole in the wall deli, the only place to eat was Pizza Hut. Our server was unbelievably kind and great at her job. DH went to the bathroom and overheard her talking to someone in the kitchen about some bad life stuff with kid. DH left her $500 tip and thank you for the great service note. We left before she came back to the table. As w were pulling out, we could see her burst into tears through the window. Never know how much $5, $50 or $500 can change someone’s life. If I can get $50 in carry out on Friday night $55-60 isn’t a stretch.

Great story and I agree. It amazes me how self absorbed a lot of these anti-tippers are, as if a few bucks they keep in their wallet or bank account is so much more important than contributing to the barely living wage many servers and counter workers get. Thankfully I know for a fact that aside from these DCUM anti threads most people tip appropriately and are not so selfish and cheap.

[Anonymous]

Not to go, but we had Chinese food delivered last night. We live about 2 miles from the restaurant and gave the driver a $10 tip. He pulled out the printed receipt with suggested tip amounts and insisted we needed to tip $21 "due to the cost of gas" (to drive 4 miles?!). The tipping culture is out of hand. I do not believe that tipping on a delivery should be the same percentage as tipping for service received at a sit-down restaurant. We won't order again from this restaurant.

[Anonymous]

Tipping is discretionary. You SHOULD always tip for table service and bar service. Tips for servers and bartenders are how they make their living. But take-out is totally optional in my opinion. I feel like it was something that started with COVID when servers were trying to make ends meet and has just gotten totally out of control. Servers and bartenders make tipped employee wages. Hostesses and counter-service employees make minimum wage. I will often tip $2-3 for take-out but I will not leave 15-25% for someone who didn't give me the same level of service as a server would for the same amount. That's just stupid on my part. If I want to pay 20% more, I'll sit down and let someone else take care of the work. Handing me a bag is not worth 20% of the bill. It's just not.

But it is NEVER ok to tell a customer that they need to tip you. I have worked in at least 6 different restaurants ranging from national chains to mom and pop to fine dining. Every single one of them would have fired me on the spot if I did that.

[Anonymous]

In a restaurant what positions are minimum wage hourly vs server pay?

Busboys, cooks, hostess, dishwashers?

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Anonymous wrote:I look at it as making someone’s day just a little bit better.

We were on a road trip once and other than a hole in the wall deli, the only place to eat was Pizza Hut. Our server was unbelievably kind and great at her job. DH went to the bathroom and overheard her talking to someone in the kitchen about some bad life stuff with kid. DH left her $500 tip and thank you for the great service note. We left before she came back to the table. As w were pulling out, we could see her burst into tears through the window. Never know how much $5, $50 or $500 can change someone’s life. If I can get $50 in carry out on Friday night $55-60 isn’t a stretch.

Great story and I agree. It amazes me how self absorbed a lot of these anti-tippers are, as if a few bucks they keep in their wallet or bank account is so much more important than contributing to the barely living wage many servers and counter workers get. Thankfully I know for a fact that aside from these DCUM anti threads most people tip appropriately and are not so selfish and cheap.

+1 Agree!