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Anonymous wrote:I had wondered about the big picture of H (and M) trashing his family and the long term prospect of the BRF. Here's an article that touches on that:

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3784176-the-trouble-with-harry-and-meghan/

Assigning them responsibility for UK national security is a bit much, don't you think? They're well on their way to becoming C-list celebrities. Who really cares abut any of this drivel, beyond the mild entertainment offered by salacious petty gossip.

+1 In fact Britain might be more secure as a true democracy, rather than bowing and curtsying to a bunch of mediocre inbred German descendants.

+2 Referring to Charles's figurehead-only-role as military head is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If H wanted a family, why not embrace M's? Oh wait, she's on the outs (or paying them). How is this different?

As far as leaks, M was leaking so much she couldn't hold water. But no one else can leak? GMAF

These two deserve what they get.

Well it does seem he might be close to her mom?

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Anonymous wrote:I had wondered about the big picture of H (and M) trashing his family and the long term prospect of the BRF. Here's an article that touches on that:

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3784176-the-trouble-with-harry-and-meghan/

Assigning them responsibility for UK national security is a bit much, don't you think? They're well on their way to becoming C-list celebrities. Who really cares abut any of this drivel, beyond the mild entertainment offered by salacious petty gossip.

+1 In fact Britain might be more secure as a true democracy, rather than bowing and curtsying to a bunch of mediocre inbred German descendants.

+2 Referring to Charles's figurehead-only-role as military head is ridiculous.

Which is more ridiculous, having Trump as Commander-in-Chief or Biden?

Neither. Y'all are being ridiculous. We have a head of state. The UK has a head of state. These are important, respected roles.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I won’t be reading it, listening to his wife’s podcast, or watching their curated reality show/documentary. I have no respect for someone who is selling out their family to be wealthy and famous.

So what's funny is that Harry is complaining that he has been sold out his entire life. To protect his brother. And he took it. But he drew the line once his wife and future child was involved and were being throw to the wolves (the press).

What is most fascinating to me is that William can't seem to see how his children will suffer this same fate if he doesn't work to change things from the inside. Does he want Charlotte and Louis to be fed to the wolves to protect George? Because that will happen. And it will tear them apart the exact same way.

We can only hope William will manage it better than Charles did. He does seem genuinely closer to his kids, which offers some hope.

Except we're getting a preview of how he'll manage it with how he is handling the Harry situation. It's not looking good.

Which is really why these "by birth monarchies" are RIDICULOUS. Even if I can't look away from all of it.

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Anonymous wrote:I had wondered about the big picture of H (and M) trashing his family and the long term prospect of the BRF. Here's an article that touches on that:

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3784176-the-trouble-with-harry-and-meghan/

Assigning them responsibility for UK national security is a bit much, don't you think? They're well on their way to becoming C-list celebrities. Who really cares abut any of this drivel, beyond the mild entertainment offered by salacious petty gossip.

+1 In fact Britain might be more secure as a true democracy, rather than bowing and curtsying to a bunch of mediocre inbred German descendants.

+2 Referring to Charles's figurehead-only-role as military head is ridiculous.

Which is more ridiculous, having Trump as Commander-in-Chief or Biden?

Neither. Y'all are being ridiculous. We have a head of state. The UK has a head of state. These are important, respected roles.

You don't seem the grasp the fundamental difference between the two. The British monarch doesn't make any military decisions; that role has been officially remanded to the Prime Minister and Defence Office. He is kept informed but has no real authority beyond approving military appointments at a certain rank.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If H wanted a family, why not embrace M's? Oh wait, she's on the outs (or paying them). How is this different?

As far as leaks, M was leaking so much she couldn't hold water. But no one else can leak? GMAF

These two deserve what they get.

it may be a long time coming, but eventually, her mom will die and they'll find out how alone they've made themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:The account of the altercation, frankly, paints Harry in a light that's too precious to sympathize with. I mean William's not much better but at least his vices are easy to understand.

But Harry? The broken necklace? the broken dog bowl? (what's it made of, crystal? what type of dog bowl breaks when a man falls on top of it?) The shards cutting his delicate skin? The therapist on speed dial?

It's all a bit much.

It’s insane. It doesn’t hold water with how fights happen.

At least he admits that Will came back and apologized. Siblings fight. So
What. The fact he is airing this simply for money is beyond the pale. Beyond.

Why would Will and Kate ever ever trust them again. Harry will just sell the stories again when he needs money or attention.

Where does he go from here? Nowhere. And good riddance.

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Anonymous wrote:If H wanted a family, why not embrace M's? Oh wait, she's on the outs (or paying them). How is this different?

As far as leaks, M was leaking so much she couldn't hold water. But no one else can leak? GMAF

These two deserve what they get.

it may be a long time coming, but eventually, her mom will die and they'll find out how alone they've made themselves.

They won't be together at that point.

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Anonymous wrote:I had wondered about the big picture of H (and M) trashing his family and the long term prospect of the BRF. Here's an article that touches on that:

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3784176-the-trouble-with-harry-and-meghan/

Assigning them responsibility for UK national security is a bit much, don't you think? They're well on their way to becoming C-list celebrities. Who really cares abut any of this drivel, beyond the mild entertainment offered by salacious petty gossip.

+1 In fact Britain might be more secure as a true democracy, rather than bowing and curtsying to a bunch of mediocre inbred German descendants.

+2 Referring to Charles's figurehead-only-role as military head is ridiculous.

Which is more ridiculous, having Trump as Commander-in-Chief or Biden?

Neither. Y'all are being ridiculous. We have a head of state. The UK has a head of state. These are important, respected roles.

You don't seem the grasp the fundamental difference between the two. The British monarch doesn't make any military decisions; that role has been officially remanded to the Prime Minister and Defence Office. He is kept informed but has no real authority beyond approving military appointments at a certain rank.

+1 The King has his role due to the accident of his birth. While is fundamentally unmeritocratic and undemocratic in this new millennia. Kind of backwards if you will.

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Anonymous wrote:I had wondered about the big picture of H (and M) trashing his family and the long term prospect of the BRF. Here's an article that touches on that:

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3784176-the-trouble-with-harry-and-meghan/

Assigning them responsibility for UK national security is a bit much, don't you think? They're well on their way to becoming C-list celebrities. Who really cares abut any of this drivel, beyond the mild entertainment offered by salacious petty gossip.

+1 In fact Britain might be more secure as a true democracy, rather than bowing and curtsying to a bunch of mediocre inbred German descendants.

+2 Referring to Charles's figurehead-only-role as military head is ridiculous.

Which is more ridiculous, having Trump as Commander-in-Chief or Biden?

Neither. Y'all are being ridiculous. We have a head of state. The UK has a head of state. These are important, respected roles.

You don't seem the grasp the fundamental difference between the two. The British monarch doesn't make any military decisions; that role has been officially remanded to the Prime Minister and Defence Office. He is kept informed but has no real authority beyond approving military appointments at a certain rank.

Yes, we have combined some roles whereas other countries have separated them. Different countries do things differently. But not wrong, just because they don't do it the way we do.

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Anonymous wrote:The account of the altercation, frankly, paints Harry in a light that's too precious to sympathize with. I mean William's not much better but at least his vices are easy to understand.

But Harry? The broken necklace? the broken dog bowl? (what's it made of, crystal? what type of dog bowl breaks when a man falls on top of it?) The shards cutting his delicate skin? The therapist on speed dial?

It's all a bit much.

It’s insane. It doesn’t hold water with how fights happen.

At least he admits that Will came back and apologized. Siblings fight. So
What. The fact he is airing this simply for money is beyond the pale. Beyond.

Why would Will and Kate ever ever trust them again. Harry will just sell the stories again when he needs money or attention.



Where does he go from here? Nowhere. And good riddance.

He attacked his brother but hey he came back and apologized and it is fine. Siblings fight when they are 10, not as adults.
Why would he trust Kate and Will? They never had his back and hate his wife.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If H wanted a family, why not embrace M's? Oh wait, she's on the outs (or paying them). How is this different?

As far as leaks, M was leaking so much she couldn't hold water. But no one else can leak? GMAF

These two deserve what they get.

it may be a long time coming, but eventually, her mom will die and they'll find out how alone they've made themselves.

They won't be together at that point.

Unless it really is true love, would be hard for any relationship to withstand the pressure the media, together with their poor choices, have placed on them. Especially if or when the money runs out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If H wanted a family, why not embrace M's? Oh wait, she's on the outs (or paying them). How is this different?

As far as leaks, M was leaking so much she couldn't hold water. But no one else can leak? GMAF

These two deserve what they get.

it may be a long time coming, but eventually, her mom will die and they'll find out how alone they've made themselves.

They won't be together at that point.

Hoping for it, aren't you?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had wondered about the big picture of H (and M) trashing his family and the long term prospect of the BRF. Here's an article that touches on that:

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3784176-the-trouble-with-harry-and-meghan/

Assigning them responsibility for UK national security is a bit much, don't you think? They're well on their way to becoming C-list celebrities. Who really cares abut any of this drivel, beyond the mild entertainment offered by salacious petty gossip.

+1 In fact Britain might be more secure as a true democracy, rather than bowing and curtsying to a bunch of mediocre inbred German descendants.

+2 Referring to Charles's figurehead-only-role as military head is ridiculous.

Which is more ridiculous, having Trump as Commander-in-Chief or Biden?

Neither. Y'all are being ridiculous. We have a head of state. The UK has a head of state. These are important, respected roles.

You don't seem the grasp the fundamental difference between the two. The British monarch doesn't make any military decisions; that role has been officially remanded to the Prime Minister and Defence Office. He is kept informed but has no real authority beyond approving military appointments at a certain rank.

+1 The King has his role due to the accident of his birth. While is fundamentally unmeritocratic and undemocratic in this new millennia. Kind of backwards if you will.

Having continuity rather than a new head of state every 4 or 8 years is not a worse way of doing things. Stability in these unstable times is important.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602551/Prince-Harrys-book-William-pointed-finger-Meghan-called-rude.html
I hope Spare is clearer than this DailyMail article. Meghan makes a comment about hormones that sets Kate off at the bridal salon, but then somehow (at a different point in time?) William shows up and waves a finger in her face and that makes Meghan cry?

The way I read this is that there was a confrontation after the bridal salon exchange.

Man if someone I barely knew told me I had "baby brain" I would be LIVID. Is anyone else seeing this as William defending his wife?

Yeah, but I thought there was crying during the bridal salon exchange, so I guess I'm just not understanding the sequence. Anyway, I can see how some people would get pissed at that kind of offhand remark being made, especially Kate with her tough pregnancies. But many many many others would just laugh it off.

yeah. i joke about mommy brain and baby brain with my friends (who are also mothers). it's definitely not up there with the worst things you could say to an in-law.

Not the worst thing. But it can be used as an insult. And getting a finger wag in response seems appropriate.

Not a great relationship among in-laws. But not the worst. Or at least not then - now it is. SMH

How could the money and revenge possibly have been worth the end of your relationship with your only brother? I don't care how much you resented being "the spare," it is simply not worth it.

What did Harry actually want of William? To change their birth order? In every aspect of life (like it or not), there is a hierarchy.

I think he wanted his family/the institution to protect him in the same way William was protected. It's an understandable desire, if not realistic.

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He literally says in the 60 minutes clip “I want a family, not an institution.”

What do people not get about this?? Makes perfect sense. It’s never a good idea to so clearly treat one sibling better than the other. And don’t give me any Bs about this being the royal family. It doesn’t matter, they don’t “have” to do things that way.

Only one person can inherit. That's a fact of life. Life that has dealt Harry rather a good hand. Older brother is being raised to lead, younger to support him.

He could have had his family if he played by the rules.

This book virtually guarantees he'd never be welcome back.

Harry didn’t want to inherit. He just didn’t want the family to leak negative stories about his wife to the press in order to shield themselves from other stories (like keeping Andrew around). William clearly did this through Jason Knauf. Knauf admitted it in a deposition.

+1

I don’t get why so many people on here ignore Harry’s basic complaint about this. Or the fact that it was his own father and brother doing this to him. What a betrayal. How would you feel if your brother trashed your new wife to the entire world?!

On more everyday level, how would you feel if your sibling spread a negative rumor about your spouse around to your extended social circle? You would say, “oh that’s fine, she’s two years older than me so whatever she wants” ??

My problem is I don’t believe Harry or Meghan because they lie. Her lies were substantiated in court. You’re misrepresenting Knauf’s deposition as well.

I feel sorry for them. They are fighting the monarchy, they cannot win.