Boycott/ Divest and Pull your College App from All States which violate Our Daughters' Civil Rights

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the posters in this thread have shown the hypocrisy of the Left Wing Nut Jobs on this issue. You pro abortion lot say you are “pro choice”, yet should your son or daughter make a choice what to do with their body i.e. their mind and attend ANY university in the nation, you won’t support their choice in all cases. You will withhold funds or what ever other CONTROL you can hold over their body if their CHOICE goes against yours.

Oh the irony!

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And I'm pro-choice!

Sure you are. I don't know any girl who would want to attend a university in a state that denies them the freedom to have control of their life just as a man does. My 9th grader and all her friends have already said that. And the hypocrisy of it all is what kills me. This isn't about babies that the Republicans want to protect. It's not really about that because if it were, they would be fighting for stricter gun laws. This is primarily about controlling women and judging them based on their "sinful" actions. I grew up with super religious Christian parents and their biggest fear has always been one of us having sex before marriage. They call themselves"pro- life" but what they really want is to deter unmarried women from having sex. Nothing to do with saving life.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.

Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…

What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.

These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters

Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?

DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.

So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?

Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.

“It was cool for me to go to Bama for my top-notch medical education, but post-Dobbs nobody can or should go to Bama for their top-notch education.”

Whatever.

Go look at the teeny tiny map that shows the few states who still have abortion rights. Are you really suggesting everyone limits ourselves that way?

Did you see that Wisconsin is regressing? It’s not just the south.

Ah. Do you always confuse "can or should" with "want to?"

Actually, I’m underscoring the judgmental aspect of the post. It was totes cool for them to go to Bama (precisely because of the high quality education/specialized renowned program), but now it’s a terrible choice because the world will judge them. Never mind the highly specialized program; just stick to New England lest anyone judge you…with their bias based on abortion.

No, I didn't say "it's a terrible choice."

Get this through your apparently thick skull: I said that even fewer people seem to be willing to make that choice. I'm just pointing that out.

Also, "Oh, well."

Go read the dcum college thread. Applications at Auburn were off the hook this year. Kids with 4.0s were rejected.

The uptick in applications to southern schools is real. Those schools aren’t hurting for applications. Kids from northern and coastal states are heading south in droves. Google it, or go check out the dcum college forum.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, some National Merit Scholars do, for free, just like they do @ ‘Bama. Great Honors program. They do have some strong undergraduate majors.

FSU also has an exceptional business and taxation program in their law school.

Do you know how few National Merit finalists there are and that it’s about 5k? The very top colleges all have need based only scholarships. There is very little merit aid in the good schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the posters in this thread have shown the hypocrisy of the Left Wing Nut Jobs on this issue. You pro abortion lot say you are “pro choice”, yet should your son or daughter make a choice what to do with their body i.e. their mind and attend ANY university in the nation, you won’t support their choice in all cases. You will withhold funds or what ever other CONTROL you can hold over their body if their CHOICE goes against yours.

Oh the irony!

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And I'm pro-choice!

Sure you are. I don't know any girl who would want to attend a university in a state that denies them the freedom to have control of their life just as a man does. My 9th grader and all her friends have already said that. And the hypocrisy of it all is what kills me. This isn't about babies that the Republicans want to protect. It's not really about that because if it were, they would be fighting for stricter gun laws. This is primarily about controlling women and judging them based on their "sinful" actions. I grew up with super religious Christian parents and their biggest fear has always been one of us having sex before marriage. They call themselves"pro- life" but what they really want is to deter unmarried women from having sex. Nothing to do with saving life.

Not really interested in your life story. I stated I was pro-choice, and I am. However, this issue has *correctly* been handed back to the states so that all voters can make their positions known. It should have been done long ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.

Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…

What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.

These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters

Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?

DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.

So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?

Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.

“It was cool for me to go to Bama for my top-notch medical education, but post-Dobbs nobody can or should go to Bama for their top-notch education.”

Whatever.

Go look at the teeny tiny map that shows the few states who still have abortion rights. Are you really suggesting everyone limits ourselves that way?

Did you see that Wisconsin is regressing? It’s not just the south.

Ah. Do you always confuse "can or should" with "want to?"

Actually, I’m underscoring the judgmental aspect of the post. It was totes cool for them to go to Bama (precisely because of the high quality education/specialized renowned program), but now it’s a terrible choice because the world will judge them. Never mind the highly specialized program; just stick to New England lest anyone judge you…with their bias based on abortion.

No, I didn't say "it's a terrible choice."

Get this through your apparently thick skull: I said that even fewer people seem to be willing to make that choice. I'm just pointing that out.

Also, "Oh, well."

Go read the dcum college thread. Applications at Auburn were off the hook this year. Kids with 4.0s were rejected.

The uptick in applications to southern schools is real. Those schools aren’t hurting for applications. Kids from northern and coastal states are heading south in droves. Google it, or go check out the dcum college forum.

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Such wishful thinking, that somehow all these great southern schools will be lacking applicants.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.

Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…

What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.

These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters

Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?

DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.

So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?

Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.

This. States like Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina and Georgia have been pushing "the new south" since the 1980's.

All.Gone.Now.

I’m not so sure.

So many kids from the east coast/north are going to SEC schools and others in the south. They know it’s not a liberal bubble, but they certainly don’t equate the school with the state’s laws. They plan to be there for 4 years. Even colleges in the south have embraced diversity, equity, and inclusion; campuses are more liberal than the state Capitol.

That was last year. I do think it’s going to be different now.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the posters in this thread have shown the hypocrisy of the Left Wing Nut Jobs on this issue. You pro abortion lot say you are “pro choice”, yet should your son or daughter make a choice what to do with their body i.e. their mind and attend ANY university in the nation, you won’t support their choice in all cases. You will withhold funds or what ever other CONTROL you can hold over their body if their CHOICE goes against yours.

Oh the irony!

+100
And I'm pro-choice!

Sure you are. I don't know any girl who would want to attend a university in a state that denies them the freedom to have control of their life just as a man does. My 9th grader and all her friends have already said that. And the hypocrisy of it all is what kills me. This isn't about babies that the Republicans want to protect. It's not really about that because if it were, they would be fighting for stricter gun laws. This is primarily about controlling women and judging them based on their "sinful" actions. I grew up with super religious Christian parents and their biggest fear has always been one of us having sex before marriage. They call themselves"pro- life" but what they really want is to deter unmarried women from having sex. Nothing to do with saving life.

5+ states only had 1 abortion clinic in the entire state before this decision. Tons of girls presumably opted to go to schools in those states. Perhaps they didn’t realize how limited their options were?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.

Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…

What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.

These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters

Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?

DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.

So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?

Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.

“It was cool for me to go to Bama for my top-notch medical education, but post-Dobbs nobody can or should go to Bama for their top-notch education.”

Whatever.

Go look at the teeny tiny map that shows the few states who still have abortion rights. Are you really suggesting everyone limits ourselves that way?

Did you see that Wisconsin is regressing? It’s not just the south.

Ah. Do you always confuse "can or should" with "want to?"

Actually, I’m underscoring the judgmental aspect of the post. It was totes cool for them to go to Bama (precisely because of the high quality education/specialized renowned program), but now it’s a terrible choice because the world will judge them. Never mind the highly specialized program; just stick to New England lest anyone judge you…with their bias based on abortion.

No, I didn't say "it's a terrible choice."

Get this through your apparently thick skull: I said that even fewer people seem to be willing to make that choice. I'm just pointing that out.

Also, "Oh, well."

Go read the dcum college thread. Applications at Auburn were off the hook this year. Kids with 4.0s were rejected.

The uptick in applications to southern schools is real. Those schools aren’t hurting for applications. Kids from northern and coastal states are heading south in droves. Google it, or go check out the dcum college forum.

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Such wishful thinking, that somehow all these great southern schools will be lacking applicants.

They won’t be lacking applicants. They will be lacking blue state and liberal applicants. This will most definitely lower their ranking for years. As a Duke graduate, I can promise you that the brilliant kids who go on to graduate programs were all generally from the north.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.

Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…

What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.

These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters

Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?

DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.

So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?

Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.

“It was cool for me to go to Bama for my top-notch medical education, but post-Dobbs nobody can or should go to Bama for their top-notch education.”

Whatever.

Go look at the teeny tiny map that shows the few states who still have abortion rights. Are you really suggesting everyone limits ourselves that way?

Did you see that Wisconsin is regressing? It’s not just the south.

Ah. Do you always confuse "can or should" with "want to?"

Actually, I’m underscoring the judgmental aspect of the post. It was totes cool for them to go to Bama (precisely because of the high quality education/specialized renowned program), but now it’s a terrible choice because the world will judge them. Never mind the highly specialized program; just stick to New England lest anyone judge you…with their bias based on abortion.

No, I didn't say "it's a terrible choice."

Get this through your apparently thick skull: I said that even fewer people seem to be willing to make that choice. I'm just pointing that out.

Also, "Oh, well."

Go read the dcum college thread. Applications at Auburn were off the hook this year. Kids with 4.0s were rejected.

The uptick in applications to southern schools is real. Those schools aren’t hurting for applications. Kids from northern and coastal states are heading south in droves. Google it, or go check out the dcum college forum.

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Such wishful thinking, that somehow all these great southern schools will be lacking applicants.

They won’t be lacking applicants. They will be lacking blue state and liberal applicants. This will most definitely lower their ranking for years. As a Duke graduate, I can promise you that the brilliant kids who go on to graduate programs were all generally from the north.

And those brilliant kids from the north will continue to go to Duke. Go read the dcum college thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.

Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…

What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.

These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters

Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?

DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.

So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?

Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.

“It was cool for me to go to Bama for my top-notch medical education, but post-Dobbs nobody can or should go to Bama for their top-notch education.”

Whatever.

Go look at the teeny tiny map that shows the few states who still have abortion rights. Are you really suggesting everyone limits ourselves that way?

Did you see that Wisconsin is regressing? It’s not just the south.

Ah. Do you always confuse "can or should" with "want to?"

Actually, I’m underscoring the judgmental aspect of the post. It was totes cool for them to go to Bama (precisely because of the high quality education/specialized renowned program), but now it’s a terrible choice because the world will judge them. Never mind the highly specialized program; just stick to New England lest anyone judge you…with their bias based on abortion.

No, I didn't say "it's a terrible choice."

Get this through your apparently thick skull: I said that even fewer people seem to be willing to make that choice. I'm just pointing that out.

Also, "Oh, well."

Go read the dcum college thread. Applications at Auburn were off the hook this year. Kids with 4.0s were rejected.

The uptick in applications to southern schools is real. Those schools aren’t hurting for applications. Kids from northern and coastal states are heading south in droves. Google it, or go check out the dcum college forum.

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Such wishful thinking, that somehow all these great southern schools will be lacking applicants.

It’s not wishful thinking. It’s the invisible hand of the market. Ridiculous to think the numbers for applications this year would be in any way affected by a rogue decision that came out two days ago. And it probably will take a year or so for the numbers to drop as the horror stories come out. Fifty years is a long time and the muscle memory of what it means to lack comprehensive women’s health care has atrophied. But it will have an affect and I can’t believe it will be positive.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.

Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…

What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.

These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters

Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?

DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.

So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?

Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.

This. States like Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina and Georgia have been pushing "the new south" since the 1980's.

All.Gone.Now.

I’m not so sure.

So many kids from the east coast/north are going to SEC schools and others in the south. They know it’s not a liberal bubble, but they certainly don’t equate the school with the state’s laws. They plan to be there for 4 years. Even colleges in the south have embraced diversity, equity, and inclusion; campuses are more liberal than the state Capitol.

That was last year. I do think it’s going to be different now.

Why?

Auburn is in AL.

AL has always had backwards laws from the crazies who control the state legislature. Nonetheless, plenty of northerners (including liberals) continue to go to school there. They go for the education. The campuses are diverse and moderate.

I doubt any kids make college choices based on abortion. After all, college kids have money to travel.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.

Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…

What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.

These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters

Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?

DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.

So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?

Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.

“It was cool for me to go to Bama for my top-notch medical education, but post-Dobbs nobody can or should go to Bama for their top-notch education.”

Whatever.

Go look at the teeny tiny map that shows the few states who still have abortion rights. Are you really suggesting everyone limits ourselves that way?

Did you see that Wisconsin is regressing? It’s not just the south.

Ah. Do you always confuse "can or should" with "want to?"

Actually, I’m underscoring the judgmental aspect of the post. It was totes cool for them to go to Bama (precisely because of the high quality education/specialized renowned program), but now it’s a terrible choice because the world will judge them. Never mind the highly specialized program; just stick to New England lest anyone judge you…with their bias based on abortion.

No, I didn't say "it's a terrible choice."

Get this through your apparently thick skull: I said that even fewer people seem to be willing to make that choice. I'm just pointing that out.

Also, "Oh, well."

Go read the dcum college thread. Applications at Auburn were off the hook this year. Kids with 4.0s were rejected.

The uptick in applications to southern schools is real. Those schools aren’t hurting for applications. Kids from northern and coastal states are heading south in droves. Google it, or go check out the dcum college forum.

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Such wishful thinking, that somehow all these great southern schools will be lacking applicants.

They won’t be lacking applicants. They will be lacking blue state and liberal applicants. This will most definitely lower their ranking for years. As a Duke graduate, I can promise you that the brilliant kids who go on to graduate programs were all generally from the north.

And those brilliant kids from the north will continue to go to Duke. Go read the dcum college thread.

I don’t think so, PP. And as a retired college administrator I can guarantee you that there were emergency meetings at all the schools in the country - those fearing a loss of out of state students and those anticipating an influx of out of state students.

Duke is freaking out.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, some National Merit Scholars do, for free, just like they do @ ‘Bama. Great Honors program. They do have some strong undergraduate majors.

FSU also has an exceptional business and taxation program in their law school.

Do you know how few National Merit finalists there are and that it’s about 5k? The very top colleges all have need based only scholarships. There is very little merit aid in the good schools.

WTH are you getting 5K??? Those are full-rides, doll. Oh, right, your kid didn’t get one so you wouldn’t know that.
These very smart and financially savvy kids will go to “very top” grad and professional schools (frequently fully-funded too!) after succeeding in FREE undergrad.

https://admissions.fsu.edu/first-year/scholarships/

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.

Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…

What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.

These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters

Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?

DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.

So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?

Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.

“It was cool for me to go to Bama for my top-notch medical education, but post-Dobbs nobody can or should go to Bama for their top-notch education.”

Whatever.

Go look at the teeny tiny map that shows the few states who still have abortion rights. Are you really suggesting everyone limits ourselves that way?

Did you see that Wisconsin is regressing? It’s not just the south.

Ah. Do you always confuse "can or should" with "want to?"

Actually, I’m underscoring the judgmental aspect of the post. It was totes cool for them to go to Bama (precisely because of the high quality education/specialized renowned program), but now it’s a terrible choice because the world will judge them. Never mind the highly specialized program; just stick to New England lest anyone judge you…with their bias based on abortion.

No, I didn't say "it's a terrible choice."

Get this through your apparently thick skull: I said that even fewer people seem to be willing to make that choice. I'm just pointing that out.

Also, "Oh, well."

Go read the dcum college thread. Applications at Auburn were off the hook this year. Kids with 4.0s were rejected.

The uptick in applications to southern schools is real. Those schools aren’t hurting for applications. Kids from northern and coastal states are heading south in droves. Google it, or go check out the dcum college forum.

+1
Such wishful thinking, that somehow all these great southern schools will be lacking applicants.

They won’t be lacking applicants. They will be lacking blue state and liberal applicants. This will most definitely lower their ranking for years. As a Duke graduate, I can promise you that the brilliant kids who go on to graduate programs were all generally from the north.

And those brilliant kids from the north will continue to go to Duke. Go read the dcum college thread.

I don’t think so, PP. And as a retired college administrator I can guarantee you that there were emergency meetings at all the schools in the country - those fearing a loss of out of state students and those anticipating an influx of out of state students.

Duke is freaking out.

You weren’t there as you are retired.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the posters in this thread have shown the hypocrisy of the Left Wing Nut Jobs on this issue. You pro abortion lot say you are “pro choice”, yet should your son or daughter make a choice what to do with their body i.e. their mind and attend ANY university in the nation, you won’t support their choice in all cases. You will withhold funds or what ever other CONTROL you can hold over their body if their CHOICE goes against yours.

Oh the irony!

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And I'm pro-choice!

-100. Ridiculous.

It’s a health risk to be at colleges in some of those states. An ectopic pregnancy could result in death. No thanks.