CNN Special - Moms who voted for Biden explain why they voted for a Republican(Youngkin) in Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:The irony that they blame the teachers and the teachers union but then want MORE from the teachers to catch their kids up. And then put in someone who wants to cut taxes but "invest" in Education mmmk.

"Youngkin has sourced much of his fiscal agenda from Stephen Moore, a writer and TV commentator who advised former President Donald Trump on his signature tax legislation, the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Moore, a proponent of supply-side economics, also helped shape a set of deep tax cuts that former Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback implemented in 2013, promising a host of benefits for the state's economy. The cuts quickly devastated Kansas' budget, and the legislature overturned them in 2017."

Stop needing so much from the school system and expecting teachers to do all of the heavy lifting. Kids are only in their care for max 8 hours. There are 16 other hours in the day. If you want more help for your kids you need to vote for community based programs. The school can be a place that they are implemented but teaching staff are NOT the answer. Just like cops are not the answer to crisis calls for mental health. Those should be mainly supported by community based grassroots programs that have staff available and trained including SW and Psychiatrists. Cops need to focus on crime. Being mentally ill is not a crime.

"School isn't childcare" is a failing platform.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The irony that they blame the teachers and the teachers union but then want MORE from the teachers to catch their kids up. And then put in someone who wants to cut taxes but "invest" in Education mmmk.

"Youngkin has sourced much of his fiscal agenda from Stephen Moore, a writer and TV commentator who advised former President Donald Trump on his signature tax legislation, the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Moore, a proponent of supply-side economics, also helped shape a set of deep tax cuts that former Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback implemented in 2013, promising a host of benefits for the state's economy. The cuts quickly devastated Kansas' budget, and the legislature overturned them in 2017."

The guy behind the Kansas tax cuts? That's scary.

And the cognitive dissonance is insane.

They want the governor to micromanage school districts and implement MORE regulations but... also don't want mandates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m blonde and voted for Biden and Youngkin. I would’ve voted for trump if he’d just said get the vaccine. I blame him for this crap lasting as long as it has. Voted for Youngkin because I believe in capitalism. He was ceo if Carlyle. I was very close to voting for mcsuliffe, but didn’t because I don’t want schools closed again. I’m also pro life.

Trump is the reason we have the vaccine in such a short time.

He also said get the vaccine and still says get the vaccine.

Uh no. The first effective vaccine was Pfizer, which did not take part in operation warp speed.

The whole world wanted a vaccine, it wasn’t rocket science to invest in it.

If he has used that war act to make N95 rather than ventilators, I might give him some credit. But all GOP focus on is treatments (horse meds, monoclonal, ventilators) and are unwilling to do anything to control the spread of virus because “freedom”.

This is not true about Pfizer and it is the new way democrats try to take credit away from the previous administration. Other drug companies had some of the R&D paid for via Operation Warp Speed. Pfizer took a different approach but it was still part of Operation Warp Speed. Pfizer's approach was an initial guaranteed sale of the vaccine to the government of 100 Million doses for 1.95 Billion dollars. And up to an addition lock on up to 500 million doses. This was announce in July of 2020. Look it up. So stop with the lie that Pfizer wasn't supported by the U.S. Government. Enough.

[Anonymous]

These women are lying about why they voted for Youngkin.
They are little Karens whose hysteria led to the school closings they are now supposedly upset about.
Notice how they complain about Obama's coming in and saying CRT is fake. Why does this bother them if they were voting based on school closings?
What happened is they don't want to be called racist for opposing CRT in schools, and don't want to be like those Trumpys they loathe, so they latched onto the safe explanation of they voted Youngkin because of school closings.
It is similar to how some people in 2016 said they were voting for Trump because they like his kids.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that they don’t have a diverse group says volumes. I have Black, Latina, even an Afghani American friend who all voted for Y. It’s not that hard to find.

Who doesn’t have a diverse group?

CNN

CNN has an agenda, through and through. They want everyone to think it’s White women who support Republicans. It’s their narrative. They don’t want to talk about the plethora of women of other races (me included) who are turned off by the ridiculous rhetoric of the current Democratic Party.

THIS. Could they be any more obvious? There are SO MANY POC who voted for Youngkin. And the posters who claim a vote for Youngkin is a vote against "equality" just sound like morons. Not one person has been able to cough up any examples of Youngkin being "against equality." It is utterly absurd to even suggest it.

CNN has become so obviously biased that it can no longer be considered journalism, but rather: leftist propaganda.

So much of the media has become leftist propaganda, unfortunately. I know the right-wingers have Fox, but the media as a whole, definitely leans very far left.

I truly wish there were some less bias sources, but for now, so just read the news from both sides and assume the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Yup. I read AP News and Reuters. Plus, supplement with BBC, WSJ. I also listen a variety of podcasts but those aren't "news" - Freakonomics, NPR - planet money, here & now (which I find very balanced).

I don't watch TV news except for election/disaster coverage. Very rarely.

The international news media is also sometimes a good option. Also has issues, but sometimes you can get info there that is not available in any of the US MSM sources.

The problem is that lots of people (especially older Americans) see CNN as a reputable news source.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The irony that they blame the teachers and the teachers union but then want MORE from the teachers to catch their kids up. And then put in someone who wants to cut taxes but "invest" in Education mmmk.

"Youngkin has sourced much of his fiscal agenda from Stephen Moore, a writer and TV commentator who advised former President Donald Trump on his signature tax legislation, the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Moore, a proponent of supply-side economics, also helped shape a set of deep tax cuts that former Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback implemented in 2013, promising a host of benefits for the state's economy. The cuts quickly devastated Kansas' budget, and the legislature overturned them in 2017."

Stop needing so much from the school system and expecting teachers to do all of the heavy lifting. Kids are only in their care for max 8 hours. There are 16 other hours in the day. If you want more help for your kids you need to vote for community based programs. The school can be a place that they are implemented but teaching staff are NOT the answer. Just like cops are not the answer to crisis calls for mental health. Those should be mainly supported by community based grassroots programs that have staff available and trained including SW and Psychiatrists. Cops need to focus on crime. Being mentally ill is not a crime.

"School isn't childcare" is a failing platform.

It ISNT. It cant be childcare AND education. Teachers are hired to instruct/teach not care for like infants who need everything done for them. They are not your kids therapists, mentors, social problem solvers, testing coordinator, bodyguard, lunch lady. By care I meant " in school".

Teachers should not be the catch all for all of society's issues with rearing children. Let them focus on EDUCATING your children and then have aides, etc. to do the other parts of their care.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that they don’t have a diverse group says volumes. I have Black, Latina, even an Afghani American friend who all voted for Y. It’s not that hard to find.

Who doesn’t have a diverse group?

CNN

CNN has an agenda, through and through. They want everyone to think it’s White women who support Republicans. It’s their narrative. They don’t want to talk about the plethora of women of other races (me included) who are turned off by the ridiculous rhetoric of the current Democratic Party.

THIS. Could they be any more obvious? There are SO MANY POC who voted for Youngkin. And the posters who claim a vote for Youngkin is a vote against "equality" just sound like morons. Not one person has been able to cough up any examples of Youngkin being "against equality." It is utterly absurd to even suggest it.

CNN has become so obviously biased that it can no longer be considered journalism, but rather: leftist propaganda.

So much of the media has become leftist propaganda, unfortunately. I know the right-wingers have Fox, but the media as a whole, definitely leans very far left.

I truly wish there were some less bias sources, but for now, so just read the news from both sides and assume the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Yup. I read AP News and Reuters. Plus, supplement with BBC, WSJ. I also listen a variety of podcasts but those aren't "news" - Freakonomics, NPR - planet money, here & now (which I find very balanced).

I don't watch TV news except for election/disaster coverage. Very rarely.

The international news media is also sometimes a good option. Also has issues, but sometimes you can get info there that is not available in any of the US MSM sources.

The problem is that lots of people (especially older Americans) see CNN as a reputable news source.

Out of the older Americans I know who watch a lot of TV news, most of them are glued to FoxNews.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The irony that they blame the teachers and the teachers union but then want MORE from the teachers to catch their kids up. And then put in someone who wants to cut taxes but "invest" in Education mmmk.

"Youngkin has sourced much of his fiscal agenda from Stephen Moore, a writer and TV commentator who advised former President Donald Trump on his signature tax legislation, the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Moore, a proponent of supply-side economics, also helped shape a set of deep tax cuts that former Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback implemented in 2013, promising a host of benefits for the state's economy. The cuts quickly devastated Kansas' budget, and the legislature overturned them in 2017."

Stop needing so much from the school system and expecting teachers to do all of the heavy lifting. Kids are only in their care for max 8 hours. There are 16 other hours in the day. If you want more help for your kids you need to vote for community based programs. The school can be a place that they are implemented but teaching staff are NOT the answer. Just like cops are not the answer to crisis calls for mental health. Those should be mainly supported by community based grassroots programs that have staff available and trained including SW and Psychiatrists. Cops need to focus on crime. Being mentally ill is not a crime.

"School isn't childcare" is a failing platform.

It ISNT. It cant be childcare AND education. Teachers are hired to instruct/teach not care for like infants who need everything done for them. They are not your kids therapists, mentors, social problem solvers, testing coordinator, bodyguard, lunch lady. By care I meant " in school".

Teachers should not be the catch all for all of society's issues with rearing children. Let them focus on EDUCATING your children and then have aides, etc. to do the other parts of their care.

You guys are arguing different points, I think. Yeah, probably schools need more resources for the various roles we put teachers in. However, the "school isn't childcare" tirade was used to suggest that teachers could deliver education via Zoom (and that in-person school was unnecessary for education).

So yeah, probably schools need more and varied resources that allow teachers to focus on education, and perhaps there need to be resources outside of school to help kids with various needs, but kids and families also need in-person school for education and so that parents can work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The irony that they blame the teachers and the teachers union but then want MORE from the teachers to catch their kids up. And then put in someone who wants to cut taxes but "invest" in Education mmmk.

"Youngkin has sourced much of his fiscal agenda from Stephen Moore, a writer and TV commentator who advised former President Donald Trump on his signature tax legislation, the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Moore, a proponent of supply-side economics, also helped shape a set of deep tax cuts that former Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback implemented in 2013, promising a host of benefits for the state's economy. The cuts quickly devastated Kansas' budget, and the legislature overturned them in 2017."

Stop needing so much from the school system and expecting teachers to do all of the heavy lifting. Kids are only in their care for max 8 hours. There are 16 other hours in the day. If you want more help for your kids you need to vote for community based programs. The school can be a place that they are implemented but teaching staff are NOT the answer. Just like cops are not the answer to crisis calls for mental health. Those should be mainly supported by community based grassroots programs that have staff available and trained including SW and Psychiatrists. Cops need to focus on crime. Being mentally ill is not a crime.

"School isn't childcare" is a failing platform.

It ISNT. It cant be childcare AND education. Teachers are hired to instruct/teach not care for like infants who need everything done for them. They are not your kids therapists, mentors, social problem solvers, testing coordinator, bodyguard, lunch lady. By care I meant " in school".

Teachers should not be the catch all for all of society's issues with rearing children. Let them focus on EDUCATING your children and then have aides, etc. to do the other parts of their care.

You guys are arguing different points, I think. Yeah, probably schools need more resources for the various roles we put teachers in. However, the "school isn't childcare" tirade was used to suggest that teachers could deliver education via Zoom (and that in-person school was unnecessary for education).

So yeah, probably schools need more and varied resources that allow teachers to focus on education, and perhaps there need to be resources outside of school to help kids with various needs, but kids and families also need in-person school for education and so that parents can work.

+1 to the bolded. This whole idea that teachers are miracle workers but also can't educate *while simultaneously providing oversight* for children is laughable. Decoupling education from care is particularly difficult for elementary-aged kids. You're trying to tell me that Kindergarten teachers aren't integrating the two? Please. No one's arguing that teachers need to "do everything" for kids, we just, you know, wanted them to provide age- and developmentally-appropriate instruction, which we know needs to happen in person.

Also, anyone who insisted on bleating "kids are resilient" last year to rationalize indefinite remote instruction has no business claiming to care about kids' mental health. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:The irony that they blame the teachers and the teachers union but then want MORE from the teachers to catch their kids up. And then put in someone who wants to cut taxes but "invest" in Education mmmk.

"Youngkin has sourced much of his fiscal agenda from Stephen Moore, a writer and TV commentator who advised former President Donald Trump on his signature tax legislation, the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Moore, a proponent of supply-side economics, also helped shape a set of deep tax cuts that former Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback implemented in 2013, promising a host of benefits for the state's economy. The cuts quickly devastated Kansas' budget, and the legislature overturned them in 2017."

The guy behind the Kansas tax cuts? That's scary.

And the cognitive dissonance is insane.

They want the governor to micromanage school districts and implement MORE regulations but... also don't want mandates.

McAuliffe was going to micromanage school boundaries and local zoning.

If Youngkin merely sets powers back to February 2020 it’s a win for local parental freedom influence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The irony that they blame the teachers and the teachers union but then want MORE from the teachers to catch their kids up. And then put in someone who wants to cut taxes but "invest" in Education mmmk.

"Youngkin has sourced much of his fiscal agenda from Stephen Moore, a writer and TV commentator who advised former President Donald Trump on his signature tax legislation, the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Moore, a proponent of supply-side economics, also helped shape a set of deep tax cuts that former Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback implemented in 2013, promising a host of benefits for the state's economy. The cuts quickly devastated Kansas' budget, and the legislature overturned them in 2017."

The guy behind the Kansas tax cuts? That's scary.

And the cognitive dissonance is insane.

They want the governor to micromanage school districts and implement MORE regulations but... also don't want mandates.

McAuliffe was going to micromanage school boundaries and local zoning.

If Youngkin merely sets powers back to February 2020 it’s a win for local parental freedom influence.

+1. I’m a parent who voted for Youngkin with this thought. I’m not expecting miracles. I just know that under McAuliffe schools would continue to deteriorate into mediocrity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The irony that they blame the teachers and the teachers union but then want MORE from the teachers to catch their kids up. And then put in someone who wants to cut taxes but "invest" in Education mmmk.

"Youngkin has sourced much of his fiscal agenda from Stephen Moore, a writer and TV commentator who advised former President Donald Trump on his signature tax legislation, the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Moore, a proponent of supply-side economics, also helped shape a set of deep tax cuts that former Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback implemented in 2013, promising a host of benefits for the state's economy. The cuts quickly devastated Kansas' budget, and the legislature overturned them in 2017."

The guy behind the Kansas tax cuts? That's scary.

And the cognitive dissonance is insane.

They want the governor to micromanage school districts and implement MORE regulations but... also don't want mandates.

McAuliffe was going to micromanage school boundaries and local zoning.

If Youngkin merely sets powers back to February 2020 it’s a win for local parental freedom influence.

So you don't want Youngkin to micromanage? Make up your mind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The irony that they blame the teachers and the teachers union but then want MORE from the teachers to catch their kids up. And then put in someone who wants to cut taxes but "invest" in Education mmmk.

"Youngkin has sourced much of his fiscal agenda from Stephen Moore, a writer and TV commentator who advised former President Donald Trump on his signature tax legislation, the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Moore, a proponent of supply-side economics, also helped shape a set of deep tax cuts that former Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback implemented in 2013, promising a host of benefits for the state's economy. The cuts quickly devastated Kansas' budget, and the legislature overturned them in 2017."

The guy behind the Kansas tax cuts? That's scary.

And the cognitive dissonance is insane.

They want the governor to micromanage school districts and implement MORE regulations but... also don't want mandates.

McAuliffe was going to micromanage school boundaries and local zoning.

If Youngkin merely sets powers back to February 2020 it’s a win for local parental freedom influence.

So you don't want Youngkin to micromanage? Make up your mind.

You don’t get it do you? We voted for Youngkin because he is for parents, not the government, leading the schools

[Anonymous]

Dem strategists need to get it together. Telling a bunch of Biden voters that they are now racist 12 months later because they voted for the guy who said he’d listen to them isn’t a winning message.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please summarize? If not school then what

It is school, just not the CRT stuff or vaccine or mask mandates. They’re angry that schools stayed closed for as long as they did and that the Democrats seemed dismissive of parents’ concerns about the resulting disruption and learning loss. I certainly understand their concerns but they do come off a bit self centered… like all that matters is them and their family, not the healthcare workers or teachers or the medically vulnerable. I think Democrats’ biggest mistake wasn’t necessarily closing schools, but for not showing more concern about the fallout now. Terry couldn’t even manage to fake it. He just didn’t connect with suburban women as much as he needed to.

School closures are going to come back to haunt Democrats across the country.