And this is one of the many reasons we are where we are. |
The remedy is not to make things worse by closing Wootton. Use the excess capacity at Crown as holding and remediate the immediate issues at Wootton. How is this unrealistic? Elrich recently denied MCPS’ desire to expand existing facilities, so it seems clear to me that he prefers to remediate existing ones. |
The County only represents MCPS in a very few types of cases. Workers comp cases are one of the cases the County routinely takes on. The rest? They go directly to outside counsel. Procurement, special education, property all go directly to outside counsel charging current hourly rates for attorney time. You are fantasizing if you think the County Council retains outside counsel. That never happens. Outside counsel are retained by the Board of Education. And you are out of your mind if you think the County Council plays any role in approving the MCPS outside lawyers. |
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I think the main point needs to be that we DO NOT HAVE THE STUDENTS to justify two schools. We never did!
Crown was a gift so had to be built. IT only makes sense to use it and change the usage of Wootton until the time comes that the enrollment justifies another high school. |
No, it did not have to be built. I love how everyone thinks they know facts when they don’t. Go look up the deed. It says it can also be used as a public park. If a school truly isn’t needed, why waste millions build it. It could’ve been a great park for community use. |
So you'd agree on option E with added revision to include Wootton on the waitlist? The latter belongs to CIP, which kicks out Wootton several times in the past, and I believe adding Wootton on the waitlist, if this is the final approved boundary plan, will have no legal binding to assure Wootton get fixed after Damascus and MaGruder. |
Exactly. This is a stupid mistake that MCPS traps itself in. MCPS could have returned this gift back to Gaithersburg city without any cost. |
dp.. *at the time* there was a need for the two schools, but with declining enrollment and huge budget cuts, *now* it's not necessary. MCPS has been accused of not pivoting fast enough (makes sense as it is a large school district), but now, they are trying to, and they are still being criticized for it. Either way, MCPS is damned if they do, and damned if they don't. So, they should just choose the option that makes the most financial sense, and that is *now* H. |
If it was a gift, why did it have to be built? Gift can be returned for better use. It should have been used as a holding school instead of continuing to burden Wootton with a poor decision. Do you understand what Wootton residents are being asked to sacrifice? First, their school was closed and students were relocated with a boundary change. Then, within the next decade, the school is overcrowded and the community is split again and forced to move once more due to another boundary change. Why should the same group of residents endure repeated disruption just to cover up MCPS’s mistake? |
MCPS projection for enrollment has been consistently above actual numbers since year 2018, and this discrepancy continues to rise until 2025 when they finally decide to fix it. If they could realize and acknowledge the wrong projection back in 2020 when everyone is trapped in home, they could have avoided this bad decision. |
They can just pivot to crown as holding school. Why make so complicated for others |
It may not be legally binding and it yes, it will mean that Wootton needs to fight to get on the CIP, but it seems Wootton is finally being taken seriously in terms of the condition of the school AND the county is moving in the direction of maintaining existing schools versus building new ones. Crown as a holding school slows down all of this, prevents Wootton from being shut down and allows for additional pivoting down the road. There will be more boundary studies in ten years no matter what option is chosen. People thinking A-D or H "lock it in" are fooling themselves. |
1. This could have all been avoided if they had half a brain cell to use more accurate data. Why use pre covid data? 2. H is by no means the most financial sense. H makes Wootton a holding school, which is less accessible than Crown. Estimates show that to repair/make Wootton Parkway to accommodate that many bussed would be 70 million. Not to mention the cost of bussing everyone to Wootton, which is farther away for Damascus and Magruder and every school that needs a holding school for renovations—that’s not my claim, btw that’s literally what analysis published by Mcps shows. Then you got to bus everyone from Wootton out. 3. You also have to renovate Wootton for it to even be a holding school, which means either way—even under H—Wootton has to be renovated. The people who say Mcps doesn’t have money to fix the Wootton and crown simply don’t get it. Under H, money literally will be sent to fix Wootton. This a non unique cost. Let’s call a spade a spade. H is not about money. The option that saves the most amount of money is E or F. H is politically more attractive. The county gets to open a brand new school and transplant some of the best students in there and say wow look at us, our new school is immediately top ranked. |
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All of this is brought to you by the geniuses who lost $40 million of state money for renovations due to submission error….
But surely these same people are always competent and would never do anything illegal or try to manipulate the system to cover their incompetency right? Source: https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/10/error-causes-montgomery-co-to-lose-40-million-for-school-improvements https://wjla.com/news/local/maryland-montgomery-county-public-schools-mcps-superintendent-reveals-loss-393-million-dollars-state-aid-submission-error-dr-thomas-taylor-capital-budget-fiscal-year-2026-council-education-culture-committee-capital-improvement-program-projects https://bethesdamagazine.com/2024/10/24/mcps-39-3-million-shortfall |
First time seeing this. WOW, no wonder we “don’t” have money. Mcps lost 40 million because they can’t fill out forms right? I always knew they were incompetent but…this is a new low. For the folks who keep saying MCPS has attorneys and surely would not be doing anything that is illegal… 1) they already have been ruled to do many illegal things (see court cases) 2) their ineptitude is….just wow 3) you should know where there are lawsuits like the last SCOTUS case, they hired out third party lawyers. Google those lawyers. Their hourly fee is usually somewhere north of $2,000 per hour. But yea Mcps “doesn’t” have money. Poor poor incompetent fools |