FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Anonymous wrote:I'll have to admit, I'm kind of surprised to hear that people in last nights boundary meeting were also against significant boundary changes. I wasn't able to attend, so this is all hearsay......but maybe those schools (Lewis) are better than they're made out to be if those families want to stay?
Be curious to hear from any Lewis parents on here.

Sorry but I’d find it hard to believe that many Lewis parents were at that meeting. I can’t think of a single negative, other than potentially the loss of IB, as to why parents in this pyramid would be against adjustments. We don’t show up at the meetings because - why would we step into the Lion’s den?

How about to be involved and advocate for the best education for you kids?

Yeah, that's an incredibly odd take. Why step into the lion's den? well.....I'd do everything within my power for my kids. To each their own, I guess.

I'm not sure I would speak out about how awful my kid's school is in a room full of involved parents and administrators.

Well, I feel like there would be a diplomatic way of doing so using facts - test scores, availability of programs, number of clubs/social activities, etc. You don't have to get nasty with people or administrators, can simply share concerns related to those topics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll have to admit, I'm kind of surprised to hear that people in last nights boundary meeting were also against significant boundary changes. I wasn't able to attend, so this is all hearsay......but maybe those schools (Lewis) are better than they're made out to be if those families want to stay?
Be curious to hear from any Lewis parents on here.

Sorry but I’d find it hard to believe that many Lewis parents were at that meeting. I can’t think of a single negative, other than potentially the loss of IB, as to why parents in this pyramid would be against adjustments. We don’t show up at the meetings because - why would we step into the Lion’s den?

How about to be involved and advocate for the best education for you kids?

Yeah, that's an incredibly odd take. Why step into the lion's den? well.....I'd do everything within my power for my kids. To each their own, I guess.

I didn’t say that we don’t advocate for our kids. I said there is no appetite for showing up to these meetings to advocate for the review process, which are full of people trying to maintain status quo. No thanks. Those meetings are really for the complainers anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll have to admit, I'm kind of surprised to hear that people in last nights boundary meeting were also against significant boundary changes. I wasn't able to attend, so this is all hearsay......but maybe those schools (Lewis) are better than they're made out to be if those families want to stay?
Be curious to hear from any Lewis parents on here.

Sorry but I’d find it hard to believe that many Lewis parents were at that meeting. I can’t think of a single negative, other than potentially the loss of IB, as to why parents in this pyramid would be against adjustments. We don’t show up at the meetings because - why would we step into the Lion’s den?

How about to be involved and advocate for the best education for you kids?

Yeah, that's an incredibly odd take. Why step into the lion's den? well.....I'd do everything within my power for my kids. To each their own, I guess.

I'm not sure I would speak out about how awful my kid's school is in a room full of involved parents and administrators.

Well, I feel like there would be a diplomatic way of doing so using facts - test scores, availability of programs, number of clubs/social activities, etc. You don't have to get nasty with people or administrators, can simply share concerns related to those topics.

Test scores of other kids should not affect your own kids scores. So, the idea is to make the school look better?
Availability of programs: All schools cannot offer all programs. Even the very large schools do not offer all languages, for example.
Clubs/social activities: schools can offer those anywhere. That falls on staff.

Sounds like you think that the purpose of redrawing boundaries. is to make affluent students/parents improve schools that have poorer social/economic status. This is not likely to help struggling students. It just covers up the problems

Here is an idea: Teach the kids where they are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll have to admit, I'm kind of surprised to hear that people in last nights boundary meeting were also against significant boundary changes. I wasn't able to attend, so this is all hearsay......but maybe those schools (Lewis) are better than they're made out to be if those families want to stay?
Be curious to hear from any Lewis parents on here.

Sorry but I’d find it hard to believe that many Lewis parents were at that meeting. I can’t think of a single negative, other than potentially the loss of IB, as to why parents in this pyramid would be against adjustments. We don’t show up at the meetings because - why would we step into the Lion’s den?

How about to be involved and advocate for the best education for you kids?

Yeah, that's an incredibly odd take. Why step into the lion's den? well.....I'd do everything within my power for my kids. To each their own, I guess.

I'm not sure I would speak out about how awful my kid's school is in a room full of involved parents and administrators.

Well, I feel like there would be a diplomatic way of doing so using facts - test scores, availability of programs, number of clubs/social activities, etc. You don't have to get nasty with people or administrators, can simply share concerns related to those topics.

Hi administrators, great school, it's just that the kids are failing standardized tests and there clubs that you offer are a joke

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll have to admit, I'm kind of surprised to hear that people in last nights boundary meeting were also against significant boundary changes. I wasn't able to attend, so this is all hearsay......but maybe those schools (Lewis) are better than they're made out to be if those families want to stay?
Be curious to hear from any Lewis parents on here.

Sorry but I’d find it hard to believe that many Lewis parents were at that meeting. I can’t think of a single negative, other than potentially the loss of IB, as to why parents in this pyramid would be against adjustments. We don’t show up at the meetings because - why would we step into the Lion’s den?

How about to be involved and advocate for the best education for you kids?

Yeah, that's an incredibly odd take. Why step into the lion's den? well.....I'd do everything within my power for my kids. To each their own, I guess.

I'm not sure I would speak out about how awful my kid's school is in a room full of involved parents and administrators.

Well, I feel like there would be a diplomatic way of doing so using facts - test scores, availability of programs, number of clubs/social activities, etc. You don't have to get nasty with people or administrators, can simply share concerns related to those topics.

Test scores of other kids should not affect your own kids scores. So, the idea is to make the school look better?
Availability of programs: All schools cannot offer all programs. Even the very large schools do not offer all languages, for example.
Clubs/social activities: schools can offer those anywhere. That falls on staff.

Sounds like you think that the purpose of redrawing boundaries. is to make affluent students/parents improve schools that have poorer social/economic status. This is not likely to help struggling students. It just covers up the problems

Here is an idea: Teach the kids where they are.

Students aren't a monolith. There are kids who should be taught at a higher level stuck in small failing schools. At least the larger schools have to ability to offer sufficient programing for all levels

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll have to admit, I'm kind of surprised to hear that people in last nights boundary meeting were also against significant boundary changes. I wasn't able to attend, so this is all hearsay......but maybe those schools (Lewis) are better than they're made out to be if those families want to stay?
Be curious to hear from any Lewis parents on here.

Sorry but I’d find it hard to believe that many Lewis parents were at that meeting. I can’t think of a single negative, other than potentially the loss of IB, as to why parents in this pyramid would be against adjustments. We don’t show up at the meetings because - why would we step into the Lion’s den?

How about to be involved and advocate for the best education for you kids?

Yeah, that's an incredibly odd take. Why step into the lion's den? well.....I'd do everything within my power for my kids. To each their own, I guess.

I'm not sure I would speak out about how awful my kid's school is in a room full of involved parents and administrators.

Well, I feel like there would be a diplomatic way of doing so using facts - test scores, availability of programs, number of clubs/social activities, etc. You don't have to get nasty with people or administrators, can simply share concerns related to those topics.

Test scores of other kids should not affect your own kids scores. So, the idea is to make the school look better?
Availability of programs: All schools cannot offer all programs. Even the very large schools do not offer all languages, for example.
Clubs/social activities: schools can offer those anywhere. That falls on staff.

Sounds like you think that the purpose of redrawing boundaries. is to make affluent students/parents improve schools that have poorer social/economic status. This is not likely to help struggling students. It just covers up the problems

Here is an idea: Teach the kids where they are.

Students aren't a monolith. There are kids who should be taught at a higher level stuck in small failing schools. At least the larger schools have to ability to offer sufficient programing for all levels

So, you want to move kids out of the neighborhood school in order to improve a neighboring school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll have to admit, I'm kind of surprised to hear that people in last nights boundary meeting were also against significant boundary changes. I wasn't able to attend, so this is all hearsay......but maybe those schools (Lewis) are better than they're made out to be if those families want to stay?
Be curious to hear from any Lewis parents on here.

Sorry but I’d find it hard to believe that many Lewis parents were at that meeting. I can’t think of a single negative, other than potentially the loss of IB, as to why parents in this pyramid would be against adjustments. We don’t show up at the meetings because - why would we step into the Lion’s den?

How about to be involved and advocate for the best education for you kids?

Yeah, that's an incredibly odd take. Why step into the lion's den? well.....I'd do everything within my power for my kids. To each their own, I guess.

I'm not sure I would speak out about how awful my kid's school is in a room full of involved parents and administrators.

Well, I feel like there would be a diplomatic way of doing so using facts - test scores, availability of programs, number of clubs/social activities, etc. You don't have to get nasty with people or administrators, can simply share concerns related to those topics.

Test scores of other kids should not affect your own kids scores. So, the idea is to make the school look better?
Availability of programs: All schools cannot offer all programs. Even the very large schools do not offer all languages, for example.
Clubs/social activities: schools can offer those anywhere. That falls on staff.

Sounds like you think that the purpose of redrawing boundaries. is to make affluent students/parents improve schools that have poorer social/economic status. This is not likely to help struggling students. It just covers up the problems

Here is an idea: Teach the kids where they are.

Students aren't a monolith. There are kids who should be taught at a higher level stuck in small failing schools. At least the larger schools have to ability to offer sufficient programing for all levels

So, you want to move kids out of the neighborhood school in order to improve a neighboring school?

Maybe. What's your ideas?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll have to admit, I'm kind of surprised to hear that people in last nights boundary meeting were also against significant boundary changes. I wasn't able to attend, so this is all hearsay......but maybe those schools (Lewis) are better than they're made out to be if those families want to stay?
Be curious to hear from any Lewis parents on here.

Lewis parent here, and I was at the meeting at Annandale. I would prefer not to have my children zoned out of Lewis, thank you very much.

Most of the Lewis parents went to the Mount Vernon meeting. I think you'll find that there are many, many parents who are very happy with the school and do not want to be rezoned.

Do you wish to see any changes at Lewis? AP - IB? Foreign Languages? AAP at Key? Other? Because even if they don't change the boundaries significantly this might be the best time to press the School Board for changes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll have to admit, I'm kind of surprised to hear that people in last nights boundary meeting were also against significant boundary changes. I wasn't able to attend, so this is all hearsay......but maybe those schools (Lewis) are better than they're made out to be if those families want to stay?
Be curious to hear from any Lewis parents on here.

Lewis parent here, and I was at the meeting at Annandale. I would prefer not to have my children zoned out of Lewis, thank you very much.

Most of the Lewis parents went to the Mount Vernon meeting. I think you'll find that there are many, many parents who are very happy with the school and do not want to be rezoned.

Do you wish to see any changes at Lewis? AP - IB? Foreign Languages? AAP at Key? Other? Because even if they don't change the boundaries significantly this might be the best time to press the School Board for changes.

1600 is a decent sized school. Even at a very large school, all kid cannot get into all programs. Sure, you have more choices, but if the choice is full, you don't get in.
You are never going to make all schools the same. If that is the goal of FCPS, why do they offer IB at some schools and AP at others?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll have to admit, I'm kind of surprised to hear that people in last nights boundary meeting were also against significant boundary changes. I wasn't able to attend, so this is all hearsay......but maybe those schools (Lewis) are better than they're made out to be if those families want to stay?
Be curious to hear from any Lewis parents on here.

Lewis parent here, and I was at the meeting at Annandale. I would prefer not to have my children zoned out of Lewis, thank you very much.

Most of the Lewis parents went to the Mount Vernon meeting. I think you'll find that there are many, many parents who are very happy with the school and do not want to be rezoned.

Do you wish to see any changes at Lewis? AP - IB? Foreign Languages? AAP at Key? Other? Because even if they don't change the boundaries significantly this might be the best time to press the School Board for changes.

1600 is a decent sized school. Even at a very large school, all kid cannot get into all programs. Sure, you have more choices, but if the choice is full, you don't get in.
You are never going to make all schools the same. If that is the goal of FCPS, why do they offer IB at some schools and AP at others?

Do you think the kid who takes algebra in 7th (pretty normal in FCPS) will have the same opportunities as a senior when they get to Lewis that they would at Marshall?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll have to admit, I'm kind of surprised to hear that people in last nights boundary meeting were also against significant boundary changes. I wasn't able to attend, so this is all hearsay......but maybe those schools (Lewis) are better than they're made out to be if those families want to stay?
Be curious to hear from any Lewis parents on here.

Lewis parent here, and I was at the meeting at Annandale. I would prefer not to have my children zoned out of Lewis, thank you very much.

Most of the Lewis parents went to the Mount Vernon meeting. I think you'll find that there are many, many parents who are very happy with the school and do not want to be rezoned.

Do you wish to see any changes at Lewis? AP - IB? Foreign Languages? AAP at Key? Other? Because even if they don't change the boundaries significantly this might be the best time to press the School Board for changes.

1600 is a decent sized school. Even at a very large school, all kid cannot get into all programs. Sure, you have more choices, but if the choice is full, you don't get in.
You are never going to make all schools the same. If that is the goal of FCPS, why do they offer IB at some schools and AP at others?

It started with a misguided idea that IB would bring students into Mount Vernon back in the mid-90s. It did not work and really had the opposite effect.

I was asking the Lewis parent (could be you) if they wanted to see any changes to Lewis or the Lewis pyramid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll have to admit, I'm kind of surprised to hear that people in last nights boundary meeting were also against significant boundary changes. I wasn't able to attend, so this is all hearsay......but maybe those schools (Lewis) are better than they're made out to be if those families want to stay?
Be curious to hear from any Lewis parents on here.

Lewis parent here, and I was at the meeting at Annandale. I would prefer not to have my children zoned out of Lewis, thank you very much.

Most of the Lewis parents went to the Mount Vernon meeting. I think you'll find that there are many, many parents who are very happy with the school and do not want to be rezoned.

Do you wish to see any changes at Lewis? AP - IB? Foreign Languages? AAP at Key? Other? Because even if they don't change the boundaries significantly this might be the best time to press the School Board for changes.

1600 is a decent sized school. Even at a very large school, all kid cannot get into all programs. Sure, you have more choices, but if the choice is full, you don't get in.
You are never going to make all schools the same. If that is the goal of FCPS, why do they offer IB at some schools and AP at others?

Do you think the kid who takes algebra in 7th (pretty normal in FCPS) will have the same opportunities as a senior when they get to Lewis that they would at Marshall?

They would if Lewis dumped IB and added AP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll have to admit, I'm kind of surprised to hear that people in last nights boundary meeting were also against significant boundary changes. I wasn't able to attend, so this is all hearsay......but maybe those schools (Lewis) are better than they're made out to be if those families want to stay?
Be curious to hear from any Lewis parents on here.

Lewis parent here, and I was at the meeting at Annandale. I would prefer not to have my children zoned out of Lewis, thank you very much.

Most of the Lewis parents went to the Mount Vernon meeting. I think you'll find that there are many, many parents who are very happy with the school and do not want to be rezoned.

Do you wish to see any changes at Lewis? AP - IB? Foreign Languages? AAP at Key? Other? Because even if they don't change the boundaries significantly this might be the best time to press the School Board for changes.

1600 is a decent sized school. Even at a very large school, all kid cannot get into all programs. Sure, you have more choices, but if the choice is full, you don't get in.
You are never going to make all schools the same. If that is the goal of FCPS, why do they offer IB at some schools and AP at others?

Do you think the kid who takes algebra in 7th (pretty normal in FCPS) will have the same opportunities as a senior when they get to Lewis that they would at Marshall?

They would if Lewis dumped IB and added AP.

Marshall has IB

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll have to admit, I'm kind of surprised to hear that people in last nights boundary meeting were also against significant boundary changes. I wasn't able to attend, so this is all hearsay......but maybe those schools (Lewis) are better than they're made out to be if those families want to stay?
Be curious to hear from any Lewis parents on here.

Lewis parent here, and I was at the meeting at Annandale. I would prefer not to have my children zoned out of Lewis, thank you very much.

Most of the Lewis parents went to the Mount Vernon meeting. I think you'll find that there are many, many parents who are very happy with the school and do not want to be rezoned.

Do you wish to see any changes at Lewis? AP - IB? Foreign Languages? AAP at Key? Other? Because even if they don't change the boundaries significantly this might be the best time to press the School Board for changes.

1600 is a decent sized school. Even at a very large school, all kid cannot get into all programs. Sure, you have more choices, but if the choice is full, you don't get in.
You are never going to make all schools the same. If that is the goal of FCPS, why do they offer IB at some schools and AP at others?

Do you think the kid who takes algebra in 7th (pretty normal in FCPS) will have the same opportunities as a senior when they get to Lewis that they would at Marshall?

They would if Lewis dumped IB and added AP.

Marshall has IB

Then, why wouldn't they have the same opportunity? Does Lewis not offer the high level math? If so, get rid of IB.

[Anonymous]

This entire almost 200 page thread can be summed up with one of two (or both) statements:

"Oh no, I am racist!" or "Oh no, my home value!"

Can we lock it now?