Hayfield Football Coach Fired

[FrankWinston]

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax Times journalists have been accurate all along and broke the story.

"Chad Ricardo" from
fox has done a terrible job reporting.

Better than the Washington Post on this one.

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Anonymous wrote:I am just getting up to speed on this issue. My son plays on a team in another region that may be on course to play Hayfield or whomever comes out of this region. I don't have time to read 186 pages, but it seems obvious that a team should not be allowed to flout the recruiting rules and still compete in playoffs. Is that the general consensus on DCUM, or are there genuine arguments to justify what Hayfield did?
Hoping that someone can catch me up on the facts without all the emotion that I am seeing in the last few pages.

The general consensus among reasonable adults is that Hayfield should not be allowed to participate. There are a handful of Hayfield parents--identifiable mostly via their poor grammar and syntax--who disagree.

While I appreciate the description provided, I would add there is an additional group not directly associated with Hayfield that generally feels there is nothing wrong with recruiting and bringing in 20+ transfers to any school and that it has been happening ‘everywhere else’ for decades.

It’s definitely been happening. It’s happened at other schools that are currently in the Virginia playoffs. Rarely does a coach need to bring em all in during the same year though, but thats because the coaches are already at the school.

Again, my point exactly! Haha, and “rarely does a coach need to bring em all in the same year”!! Do you want to rephrase that to “though a coach has never done that many in one year…”?

Won’t say it’s never been done in one year because there is another school that’s undefeated that just got a bunch of transfers this year and that school is also one of the favorites to win their division.

Not going to name the school just yet, but they are also in Northern Virginia. Probably wasn’t as many new football players as Hayfield, but there was a bunch.

Oh please. Prove it. The rosters are public. Show us all the players and where they played last year.

Tons of allegations against other schools in this thread and no one ever has a shred of evidence. Meanwhile everyone can see all the Hayfield transfers from all over the place.

Not gonna name them so you can try to f up some more kids season. I haven’t seen the school in talking about mentioned though.

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Anonymous wrote:I am just getting up to speed on this issue. My son plays on a team in another region that may be on course to play Hayfield or whomever comes out of this region. I don't have time to read 186 pages, but it seems obvious that a team should not be allowed to flout the recruiting rules and still compete in playoffs. Is that the general consensus on DCUM, or are there genuine arguments to justify what Hayfield did?
Hoping that someone can catch me up on the facts without all the emotion that I am seeing in the last few pages.

The general consensus among reasonable adults is that Hayfield should not be allowed to participate. There are a handful of Hayfield parents--identifiable mostly via their poor grammar and syntax--who disagree.

While I appreciate the description provided, I would add there is an additional group not directly associated with Hayfield that generally feels there is nothing wrong with recruiting and bringing in 20+ transfers to any school and that it has been happening ‘everywhere else’ for decades.

It’s definitely been happening. It’s happened at other schools that are currently in the Virginia playoffs. Rarely does a coach need to bring em all in during the same year though, but thats because the coaches are already at the school.

Again, my point exactly! Haha, and “rarely does a coach need to bring em all in the same year”!! Do you want to rephrase that to “though a coach has never done that many in one year…”?

Won’t say it’s never been done in one year because there is another school that’s undefeated that just got a bunch of transfers this year and that school is also one of the favorites to win their division.

Not going to name the school just yet, but they are also in Northern Virginia. Probably wasn’t as many new football players as Hayfield, but there was a bunch.

Oh please. Prove it. The rosters are public. Show us all the players and where they played last year.

Tons of allegations against other schools in this thread and no one ever has a shred of evidence. Meanwhile everyone can see all the Hayfield transfers from all over the place.

Not gonna name them so you can try to f up some more kids season. I haven’t seen the school in talking about mentioned though.

Okay. Cause I know a team, I’m not going to tell you their name, who has never had a transfer and has gone undefeated and won states the last 4 years. But I’m not going to tell you the school. Cause it helps my argument.

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Anonymous wrote:I am just getting up to speed on this issue. My son plays on a team in another region that may be on course to play Hayfield or whomever comes out of this region. I don't have time to read 186 pages, but it seems obvious that a team should not be allowed to flout the recruiting rules and still compete in playoffs. Is that the general consensus on DCUM, or are there genuine arguments to justify what Hayfield did?
Hoping that someone can catch me up on the facts without all the emotion that I am seeing in the last few pages.

The general consensus among reasonable adults is that Hayfield should not be allowed to participate. There are a handful of Hayfield parents--identifiable mostly via their poor grammar and syntax--who disagree.

While I appreciate the description provided, I would add there is an additional group not directly associated with Hayfield that generally feels there is nothing wrong with recruiting and bringing in 20+ transfers to any school and that it has been happening ‘everywhere else’ for decades.

It’s definitely been happening. It’s happened at other schools that are currently in the Virginia playoffs. Rarely does a coach need to bring em all in during the same year though, but thats because the coaches are already at the school.

Again, my point exactly! Haha, and “rarely does a coach need to bring em all in the same year”!! Do you want to rephrase that to “though a coach has never done that many in one year…”?

Won’t say it’s never been done in one year because there is another school that’s undefeated that just got a bunch of transfers this year and that school is also one of the favorites to win their division.

Not going to name the school just yet, but they are also in Northern Virginia. Probably wasn’t as many new football players as Hayfield, but there was a bunch.

Oh please. Prove it. The rosters are public. Show us all the players and where they played last year.

Tons of allegations against other schools in this thread and no one ever has a shred of evidence. Meanwhile everyone can see all the Hayfield transfers from all over the place.

Not gonna name them so you can try to f up some more kids season. I haven’t seen the school in talking about mentioned though.

Washington-Lee or Madison

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Anonymous wrote:I am just getting up to speed on this issue. My son plays on a team in another region that may be on course to play Hayfield or whomever comes out of this region. I don't have time to read 186 pages, but it seems obvious that a team should not be allowed to flout the recruiting rules and still compete in playoffs. Is that the general consensus on DCUM, or are there genuine arguments to justify what Hayfield did?
Hoping that someone can catch me up on the facts without all the emotion that I am seeing in the last few pages.

The general consensus among reasonable adults is that Hayfield should not be allowed to participate. There are a handful of Hayfield parents--identifiable mostly via their poor grammar and syntax--who disagree.

While I appreciate the description provided, I would add there is an additional group not directly associated with Hayfield that generally feels there is nothing wrong with recruiting and bringing in 20+ transfers to any school and that it has been happening ‘everywhere else’ for decades.

It’s definitely been happening. It’s happened at other schools that are currently in the Virginia playoffs. Rarely does a coach need to bring em all in during the same year though, but thats because the coaches are already at the school.

Again, my point exactly! Haha, and “rarely does a coach need to bring em all in the same year”!! Do you want to rephrase that to “though a coach has never done that many in one year…”?

Won’t say it’s never been done in one year because there is another school that’s undefeated that just got a bunch of transfers this year and that school is also one of the favorites to win their division.

Not going to name the school just yet, but they are also in Northern Virginia. Probably wasn’t as many new football players as Hayfield, but there was a bunch.

Oh please. Prove it. The rosters are public. Show us all the players and where they played last year.

Tons of allegations against other schools in this thread and no one ever has a shred of evidence. Meanwhile everyone can see all the Hayfield transfers from all over the place.

Not gonna name them so you can try to f up some more kids season. I haven’t seen the school in talking about mentioned though.

Sounds like BS to me.

[Anonymous]

So when is Reid putting out her next unfaltering support for Hayfield press statement or is she just going to show it on the field by wearing a #Hayfieldby40 tshirt tomorrow might?

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Anonymous wrote:So when is Reid putting out her next unfaltering support for Hayfield press statement or is she just going to show it on the field by wearing a #Hayfieldby40 tshirt tomorrow might?

She does that, my goodness would that really ruffle some feathers. I guess u know she truly standing on what she said. I double dare her too

[Anonymous]

This comment screams OTF

Imagine working this hard for a kids sports trophy- I might die of second-hand embarrassment.

Anonymous wrote:If Hayfield's record was 3-7 (see Robinson Secondary School), nobody would care. There would be no complaints, protests, Gatehouse mobs, press hysteria. But, because they are whipping azz, y'all stay mad.

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Anonymous wrote:I am just getting up to speed on this issue. My son plays on a team in another region that may be on course to play Hayfield or whomever comes out of this region. I don't have time to read 186 pages, but it seems obvious that a team should not be allowed to flout the recruiting rules and still compete in playoffs. Is that the general consensus on DCUM, or are there genuine arguments to justify what Hayfield did?
Hoping that someone can catch me up on the facts without all the emotion that I am seeing in the last few pages.

The general consensus among reasonable adults is that Hayfield should not be allowed to participate. There are a handful of Hayfield parents--identifiable mostly via their poor grammar and syntax--who disagree.

While I appreciate the description provided, I would add there is an additional group not directly associated with Hayfield that generally feels there is nothing wrong with recruiting and bringing in 20+ transfers to any school and that it has been happening ‘everywhere else’ for decades.

GTFOOH

Haha, yeah, it appears they are more associated with the Hayfield head coach and his ‘pop warner league’ he runs in Woodbridge, VA. It sounds like he runs Hayfield like he runs that program and his kids/their families think it should also be allowed in high school sports.

Absolutely. That's where the freshman dressing for Varsity came from. You pay him for his PME training and teams, and he hooks you up with a spot on the Varsity squad.

My conclusion is that it all started with a cup of coffee between the head coach and principal long before Hayfield fired its previous coach. Hayfield coach had figured out how to recruit at Freedom to win state titles and the ‘new’ Hayfield principal wanted that to define him at Hayfield. The athletic director is a dweeb that got caught up in it with balls too small to say no. And here we are almost a year later arguing with people that don’t think transferring in over 20 student athletes in one offseason is breaking the rules.

Look up the “athletic director” (we call them DSA in FCPS) … not a dweeb scared to say no. Quick google of the name will tell you what you're missing

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Anonymous wrote:I am just getting up to speed on this issue. My son plays on a team in another region that may be on course to play Hayfield or whomever comes out of this region. I don't have time to read 186 pages, but it seems obvious that a team should not be allowed to flout the recruiting rules and still compete in playoffs. Is that the general consensus on DCUM, or are there genuine arguments to justify what Hayfield did?
Hoping that someone can catch me up on the facts without all the emotion that I am seeing in the last few pages.

The general consensus among reasonable adults is that Hayfield should not be allowed to participate. There are a handful of Hayfield parents--identifiable mostly via their poor grammar and syntax--who disagree.

While I appreciate the description provided, I would add there is an additional group not directly associated with Hayfield that generally feels there is nothing wrong with recruiting and bringing in 20+ transfers to any school and that it has been happening ‘everywhere else’ for decades.

GTFOOH

Haha, yeah, it appears they are more associated with the Hayfield head coach and his ‘pop warner league’ he runs in Woodbridge, VA. It sounds like he runs Hayfield like he runs that program and his kids/their families think it should also be allowed in high school sports.

Absolutely. That's where the freshman dressing for Varsity came from. You pay him for his PME training and teams, and he hooks you up with a spot on the Varsity squad.

My conclusion is that it all started with a cup of coffee between the head coach and principal long before Hayfield fired its previous coach. Hayfield coach had figured out how to recruit at Freedom to win state titles and the ‘new’ Hayfield principal wanted that to define him at Hayfield. The athletic director is a dweeb that got caught up in it with balls too small to say no. And here we are almost a year later arguing with people that don’t think transferring in over 20 student athletes in one offseason is breaking the rules.

Look up the “athletic director” (we call them DSA in FCPS) … not a dweeb scared to say no. Quick google of the name will tell you what you're missing

Fancy him, do you? I believe he's married.

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Well arent you a witty one. I fancy holding him accountable if it comes to light he participated unethically.

Falls short of a date, dontcha think?

Reading comprehension is a skill- best to master it

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Anonymous wrote:I am just getting up to speed on this issue. My son plays on a team in another region that may be on course to play Hayfield or whomever comes out of this region. I don't have time to read 186 pages, but it seems obvious that a team should not be allowed to flout the recruiting rules and still compete in playoffs. Is that the general consensus on DCUM, or are there genuine arguments to justify what Hayfield did?
Hoping that someone can catch me up on the facts without all the emotion that I am seeing in the last few pages.

The general consensus among reasonable adults is that Hayfield should not be allowed to participate. There are a handful of Hayfield parents--identifiable mostly via their poor grammar and syntax--who disagree.

While I appreciate the description provided, I would add there is an additional group not directly associated with Hayfield that generally feels there is nothing wrong with recruiting and bringing in 20+ transfers to any school and that it has been happening ‘everywhere else’ for decades.

GTFOOH

Haha, yeah, it appears they are more associated with the Hayfield head coach and his ‘pop warner league’ he runs in Woodbridge, VA. It sounds like he runs Hayfield like he runs that program and his kids/their families think it should also be allowed in high school sports.

Absolutely. That's where the freshman dressing for Varsity came from. You pay him for his PME training and teams, and he hooks you up with a spot on the Varsity squad.

My conclusion is that it all started with a cup of coffee between the head coach and principal long before Hayfield fired its previous coach. Hayfield coach had figured out how to recruit at Freedom to win state titles and the ‘new’ Hayfield principal wanted that to define him at Hayfield. The athletic director is a dweeb that got caught up in it with balls too small to say no. And here we are almost a year later arguing with people that don’t think transferring in over 20 student athletes in one offseason is breaking the rules.

Look up the “athletic director” (we call them DSA in FCPS) … not a dweeb scared to say no. Quick google of the name will tell you what you're missing

Fancy him, do you? I believe he's married.

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Anonymous wrote:I am just getting up to speed on this issue. My son plays on a team in another region that may be on course to play Hayfield or whomever comes out of this region. I don't have time to read 186 pages, but it seems obvious that a team should not be allowed to flout the recruiting rules and still compete in playoffs. Is that the general consensus on DCUM, or are there genuine arguments to justify what Hayfield did?
Hoping that someone can catch me up on the facts without all the emotion that I am seeing in the last few pages.

The general consensus among reasonable adults is that Hayfield should not be allowed to participate. There are a handful of Hayfield parents--identifiable mostly via their poor grammar and syntax--who disagree.

While I appreciate the description provided, I would add there is an additional group not directly associated with Hayfield that generally feels there is nothing wrong with recruiting and bringing in 20+ transfers to any school and that it has been happening ‘everywhere else’ for decades.

It’s definitely been happening. It’s happened at other schools that are currently in the Virginia playoffs. Rarely does a coach need to bring em all in during the same year though, but thats because the coaches are already at the school.

Again, my point exactly! Haha, and “rarely does a coach need to bring em all in the same year”!! Do you want to rephrase that to “though a coach has never done that many in one year…”?

Won’t say it’s never been done in one year because there is another school that’s undefeated that just got a bunch of transfers this year and that school is also one of the favorites to win their division.

Not going to name the school just yet, but they are also in Northern Virginia. Probably wasn’t as many new football players as Hayfield, but there was a bunch.

Oh please. Prove it. The rosters are public. Show us all the players and where they played last year.

Tons of allegations against other schools in this thread and no one ever has a shred of evidence. Meanwhile everyone can see all the Hayfield transfers from all over the place.

Not gonna name them so you can try to f up some more kids season. I haven’t seen the school in talking about mentioned though.

Washington-Lee or Madison

I know one of them in-detail. Zero transfers. They have a single D1, played there since a freshman.

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Anonymous wrote:I am just getting up to speed on this issue. My son plays on a team in another region that may be on course to play Hayfield or whomever comes out of this region. I don't have time to read 186 pages, but it seems obvious that a team should not be allowed to flout the recruiting rules and still compete in playoffs. Is that the general consensus on DCUM, or are there genuine arguments to justify what Hayfield did?
Hoping that someone can catch me up on the facts without all the emotion that I am seeing in the last few pages.

The general consensus among reasonable adults is that Hayfield should not be allowed to participate. There are a handful of Hayfield parents--identifiable mostly via their poor grammar and syntax--who disagree.

While I appreciate the description provided, I would add there is an additional group not directly associated with Hayfield that generally feels there is nothing wrong with recruiting and bringing in 20+ transfers to any school and that it has been happening ‘everywhere else’ for decades.

It’s definitely been happening. It’s happened at other schools that are currently in the Virginia playoffs. Rarely does a coach need to bring em all in during the same year though, but thats because the coaches are already at the school.

Again, my point exactly! Haha, and “rarely does a coach need to bring em all in the same year”!! Do you want to rephrase that to “though a coach has never done that many in one year…”?

Won’t say it’s never been done in one year because there is another school that’s undefeated that just got a bunch of transfers this year and that school is also one of the favorites to win their division.

Not going to name the school just yet, but they are also in Northern Virginia. Probably wasn’t as many new football players as Hayfield, but there was a bunch.

Oh please. Prove it. The rosters are public. Show us all the players and where they played last year.

Tons of allegations against other schools in this thread and no one ever has a shred of evidence. Meanwhile everyone can see all the Hayfield transfers from all over the place.

Not gonna name them so you can try to f up some more kids season. I haven’t seen the school in talking about mentioned though.

Washington-Lee or Madison

Is this PP really accusing W&L (Liberty bud, not Lee) and/or Madison of cheating this year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This comment screams OTF

Imagine working this hard for a kids sports trophy- I might die of second-hand embarrassment.

Anonymous wrote:If Hayfield's record was 3-7 (see Robinson Secondary School), nobody would care. There would be no complaints, protests, Gatehouse mobs, press hysteria. But, because they are whipping azz, y'all stay mad.

WTF you all trying to say here? Who is commenting on who??

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Anonymous wrote:I am just getting up to speed on this issue. My son plays on a team in another region that may be on course to play Hayfield or whomever comes out of this region. I don't have time to read 186 pages, but it seems obvious that a team should not be allowed to flout the recruiting rules and still compete in playoffs. Is that the general consensus on DCUM, or are there genuine arguments to justify what Hayfield did?
Hoping that someone can catch me up on the facts without all the emotion that I am seeing in the last few pages.

The general consensus among reasonable adults is that Hayfield should not be allowed to participate. There are a handful of Hayfield parents--identifiable mostly via their poor grammar and syntax--who disagree.

While I appreciate the description provided, I would add there is an additional group not directly associated with Hayfield that generally feels there is nothing wrong with recruiting and bringing in 20+ transfers to any school and that it has been happening ‘everywhere else’ for decades.

It’s definitely been happening. It’s happened at other schools that are currently in the Virginia playoffs. Rarely does a coach need to bring em all in during the same year though, but thats because the coaches are already at the school.

Again, my point exactly! Haha, and “rarely does a coach need to bring em all in the same year”!! Do you want to rephrase that to “though a coach has never done that many in one year…”?

Won’t say it’s never been done in one year because there is another school that’s undefeated that just got a bunch of transfers this year and that school is also one of the favorites to win their division.

Not going to name the school just yet, but they are also in Northern Virginia. Probably wasn’t as many new football players as Hayfield, but there was a bunch.

Oh please. Prove it. The rosters are public. Show us all the players and where they played last year.

Tons of allegations against other schools in this thread and no one ever has a shred of evidence. Meanwhile everyone can see all the Hayfield transfers from all over the place.

Not gonna name them so you can try to f up some more kids season. I haven’t seen the school in talking about mentioned though.

Washington-Lee or Madison

If you are talking about Madison’s baseball team, you can trace almost every kid on that team back to Vienna little league. Nothing like what’s going on at Hayfield.