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Anonymous
This is true but all of the MLSN p2p players/parents I know also know this. Except for maybe at the U13 level, they all know the deal. They are doing it to help make a D1 or high level D2 college roster spot available. That's it. That's why my own kid does it. No one inside the program is being fooled... And the argument from some that MLSN is just for creating some sort of pro pathway and they don't care about college or anything else is a fool. Why would they expand to P2P clubs? Why would they create MLSN2? It is literally just a youth league like any other youth league out there. The only difference is that there are a few (very few) legitimate academies at the very top. |
Anonymous
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Is there anyone sane on this thread? I posted that Arlington hinted about this earlier this week and no one responded. Here is more information from Arlington:
https://arlingtonsoccer.com/programs/travel/age-group-transition |
Anonymous
Hinted at what? What you posted has been known for months. |
Anonymous
Nothing to see here that's why. ECNL was always going SY no doubt, so is GA. this forum has only two main topics left: does ECNL allow grade exceptions, highly unlikely. Do Mar-July Dads of MLSN kids have their world come crashing down, or do they man up and realize there are pros to being on the bottom of the age cutoff as well. sure, it may slightly reduce your already microscopic chances of a scholarship, but they will be stronger players overall. |
Anonymous
Hold up, hold up, you are forgetting my boy the August Redact who believes that August players will not be allowed to play with their age groups (for reasons). This alone is 20+ pages of discussion for some reason. There is also some talk of whether their will be changes allowed in the spring (unlikely) and general talk around what the clubs will do (if anything) to prepare for 26/27. Finally, there are a few people who haven't seen that GA confirmed and keep arguing about that for some reason. |
Anonymous
I'll also add that some are worried that their kid get will get dropped so they argue that the trapped older kids are terrible at soccer and older teams will not change players because it will be distributive to team spirit. Worth at least 5-6 more pages. |
Anonymous
| I think we've got someone commenting to themselves again. |
Anonymous
I didnt say MLS Next players and parents dont care about playing in college. You added that because you're crazy and have an irrational hate for anything MLS. What I said was playing in college is a by product that occurs if playing professionally doesn't work out. Which is the same thing that happens with foreign Academy washouts. You dont understand this because ECNLs only goal is playing in college and its all you can comprehend. |
Anonymous
What are you talking about? My kid plays MLSN, I like the platform better than any other for boys. You were saying that parents were being deluded by MLSN thinking their kids were going to go pro. I was arguing that that is not the case. Maybe for people looking from the outside in it is, but for anyone actually involved in P2P MLSN, we all know the deal. College ball is the priority/goal. |
Anonymous
That argument though (while I think it is bunk) at least has some legs as you note. This was the big argument I heard (mainly on the girls side) the last time we did an age group shift. There was a lot of drama (again, mainly on the girls side) about needing to keep successful teams together, etc. At the club I was at, we did even keep together two of our best girls teams (everyone else changed) and they played up. It was a disaster of a season and we lost the best players from both of those teams. This was at a medium (think NPL or ECRL) sized club. |
Anonymous
| Good for Arlington to provide that site. Haven't had any communications from our club regarding the change. |
Anonymous
So pretending to be a MLS parent now? MLS Next even the non Homegrown or Academy players want to play professionally first and college second. Also almost all players will get some opportunities at the Academy level. Which might catch someone's eye. Which again is what everyone is looking for. You don't understand any of this because theres no equivalent in ECNL. |
Anonymous
Ok man. If that makes you feel better. Maybe that is true where you are but the handful of P2P MLSN1 clubs near me, 99% of the players (above U13) know they are not going pro. Everyone talks about college and college commitments. Everyone is busy putting together highlight videos and emailing college coaches. Everyone is trying to get college coaches to watch them at the events (Flex, etc.). |
Anonymous
Put yourself in a college coaches position. You have roster decisions to make and winning translates into keeping your job. Who would you pick first? MLS Next Homegrown/Academy players, Foreign Anademy players, or random league like ECNL players? With the first two options the clubs have already sifted through the players separating talent out. With leagues like ECNL theres a lot of duds but you might find an occasional jem. The problem is the amount of time it will take to identify jems. On top of all that what happens is the coaches and DOCs from Homegrown and Academy teams develop relationships with top college coaches because theyre a one stop shop for talent. This is where regular MLS Next players who are occasionally playing with Academy or above teams might get referred to XYZ college coach. Lather rinse repeat and now you know what makes MLS different. Oh and btw all the regular MLS players are reaching out to college coaches and doing all the same things to get recruited that ECNL and other parents are doing. To put things in ECNL terms that you'll understand Homegrown and Academy docs and coaches view all MLS players as part of the pool that could potentially play professionally. However They also know which players on their teams and in the larger pool that could play in college. It would be like if there was a single ECNL doc that represented all the teams to college coaches for each regional league. |
Anonymous
Ugh...it's Mr. Ugh again, continuing his passive aggressive campaign for MLSN to stay BY because they are the most special, and so very different from all the alphabet leagues. We get that your July kid will now be disadvantaged, but it's not the end of the world. Lashing out at every criticism of MLSN, as if it's hate speech, only magnifies the desperation and fear that quite evident in your posts. |