ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a fun topic.

My daughter had private training tonight
He’s ECNL club director in California for a big club. He mentioned big changes are going to be announced in about 6 months.

I tried to ask said he wasn’t allowed to say anything specific right now.

Who’s got the best guess?

Word on the street is Clubs will be MLSN/GA or ECNL affiliated. No longer can have both.

USYS is shopping around for a potential partner with MLSN/GA or be merged and absorbed by US Club soccer and they will continue to build out their platform.

Someone said earlier USYS with ECNL. Seems like as good a start as any.

No they said Norcal (league) is trying to align with ECNL and it's not going well.

Is it just me or does it seem like 1 maybe 2 harpies commenting all the time who irrationally hate MLS Next.

Just you.

I agree that there seems to be a lot of irrational hate (or is it jealousy?) for MLSN in this thread.

So there's at least two people that feel this way

Just you.

Come on, just tell us. Which MLS Next club either cut your son or wont offer them a roster spot. Your posts ooze with "a woman scorned" jealousy and a need for revenge.

Can you cite an example of irrational hate?

Discuss anything even partially related to playing down and harpie will bring up biobanding. Which would be ok if they understood why biobanding isnt a good thing for players. Its almost like all they understand is ECNL or leagues structured like them and theyre trying to apply it to MLSN.

So you feel that an attack on biobanding is an attack on MLSN? And this bothers you how?

No, Im not a big fan of biobanding either. Mostly because I think RAE is dumb. What gets annoying is the "but MLS Next has Biobanding" comments. We all know that MLS Next has biobanding you dont need to bring it up every 5 minutes. If you're going to continue bringing it up at least try to understand that MLS is setup for identifying talent to play professionally. Scores dont matter (that much). In this kind of environment it actually hurts players chances at playing professionally if they bioband.

I see. Is MLSN more setup to create pros or to seem to be creating pros?

Yes, when MLS bailed out boys/mens DA they did it to create an amateur to pro pathway. Honestly they dont care about anything else. College commitments are a by product. Once you understand this biobanding makes some sense.

If all they care about is creating pros, you’d think they’d be better at it

Which league in the US is better at producing pro players than MLSN?

I get that you like to flap your tongue and are filled with venom but come on.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a fun topic.

My daughter had private training tonight
He’s ECNL club director in California for a big club. He mentioned big changes are going to be announced in about 6 months.

I tried to ask said he wasn’t allowed to say anything specific right now.

Who’s got the best guess?

Word on the street is Clubs will be MLSN/GA or ECNL affiliated. No longer can have both.

USYS is shopping around for a potential partner with MLSN/GA or be merged and absorbed by US Club soccer and they will continue to build out their platform.

Someone said earlier USYS with ECNL. Seems like as good a start as any.

No they said Norcal (league) is trying to align with ECNL and it's not going well.

Is it just me or does it seem like 1 maybe 2 harpies commenting all the time who irrationally hate MLS Next.

Just you.

I agree that there seems to be a lot of irrational hate (or is it jealousy?) for MLSN in this thread.

So there's at least two people that feel this way

Just you.

Come on, just tell us. Which MLS Next club either cut your son or wont offer them a roster spot. Your posts ooze with "a woman scorned" jealousy and a need for revenge.

Can you cite an example of irrational hate?

Discuss anything even partially related to playing down and harpie will bring up biobanding. Which would be ok if they understood why biobanding isnt a good thing for players. Its almost like all they understand is ECNL or leagues structured like them and theyre trying to apply it to MLSN.

So you feel that an attack on biobanding is an attack on MLSN? And this bothers you how?

No, Im not a big fan of biobanding either. Mostly because I think RAE is dumb. What gets annoying is the "but MLS Next has Biobanding" comments. We all know that MLS Next has biobanding you dont need to bring it up every 5 minutes. If you're going to continue bringing it up at least try to understand that MLS is setup for identifying talent to play professionally. Scores dont matter (that much). In this kind of environment it actually hurts players chances at playing professionally if they bioband.

I see. Is MLSN more setup to create pros or to seem to be creating pros?

Yes, when MLS bailed out boys/mens DA they did it to create an amateur to pro pathway. Honestly they dont care about anything else. College commitments are a by product. Once you understand this biobanding makes some sense.

If all they care about is creating pros, you’d think they’d be better at it

Which league in the US is better at producing pro players than MLSN?

I get that you like to flap your tongue and are filled with venom but come on.

So sensitive are we… even an Mlsn nut hugger like yourself has to admit that it’s dead last compared to all other countries. Its primary, embedded pipeline is a pyramid scheme requiring parents to spend 10-15k per year in fees and travel. That won’t get you the best players. We know this, but MLS doesn’t seem to care despite decades of the best professionals worldwide telling the US what is wrong with our system. Heck even Jurgen just said it the other day, Dempsey too.

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Lots of MLSN talk on an ECNL thread. Why don’t you people nut up and start your own thread. Because you are clearly on the wrong thread and only the two of you care about this. You can talk about your academy kids nonexistent chance of making pro elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of MLSN talk on an ECNL thread. Why don’t you people nut up and start your own thread. Because you are clearly on the wrong thread and only the two of you care about this. You can talk about your academy kids nonexistent chance of making pro elsewhere.

The chance for any P2P MLSN player to go pro is 0%. It is a marketing scam that many parents fall for. Any special rule to mimic pro-environment, trying to make those p2p MLSN look legit is fake.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of MLSN talk on an ECNL thread. Why don’t you people nut up and start your own thread. Because you are clearly on the wrong thread and only the two of you care about this. You can talk about your academy kids nonexistent chance of making pro elsewhere.

The chance for any P2P MLSN player to go pro is 0%. It is a marketing scam that many parents fall for. Any special rule to mimic pro-environment, trying to make those p2p MLSN look legit is fake.

+100, but they will argue on this board for hundreds of pages in the fake illusion. It would be better to create another thread where only the disillusioned can argue where we don’t see the embarrassment. But they won’t because they have no shame.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of MLSN talk on an ECNL thread. Why don’t you people nut up and start your own thread. Because you are clearly on the wrong thread and only the two of you care about this. You can talk about your academy kids nonexistent chance of making pro elsewhere.

The chance for any P2P MLSN player to go pro is 0%. It is a marketing scam that many parents fall for. Any special rule to mimic pro-environment, trying to make those p2p MLSN look legit is fake.

This is true but all of the MLSN p2p players/parents I know also know this. Except for maybe at the U13 level, they all know the deal. They are doing it to help make a D1 or high level D2 college roster spot available. That's it. That's why my own kid does it. No one inside the program is being fooled...

And the argument from some that MLSN is just for creating some sort of pro pathway and they don't care about college or anything else is a fool. Why would they expand to P2P clubs? Why would they create MLSN2? It is literally just a youth league like any other youth league out there. The only difference is that there are a few (very few) legitimate academies at the very top.

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Is there anyone sane on this thread? I posted that Arlington hinted about this earlier this week and no one responded. Here is more information from Arlington:

https://arlingtonsoccer.com/programs/travel/age-group-transition

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Anonymous wrote:Is there anyone sane on this thread? I posted that Arlington hinted about this earlier this week and no one responded. Here is more information from Arlington:

https://arlingtonsoccer.com/programs/travel/age-group-transition

Hinted at what? What you posted has been known for months.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there anyone sane on this thread? I posted that Arlington hinted about this earlier this week and no one responded. Here is more information from Arlington:

https://arlingtonsoccer.com/programs/travel/age-group-transition

Nothing to see here that's why. ECNL was always going SY no doubt, so is GA. this forum has only two main topics left: does ECNL allow grade exceptions, highly unlikely. Do Mar-July Dads of MLSN kids have their world come crashing down, or do they man up and realize there are pros to being on the bottom of the age cutoff as well. sure, it may slightly reduce your already microscopic chances of a scholarship, but they will be stronger players overall.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there anyone sane on this thread? I posted that Arlington hinted about this earlier this week and no one responded. Here is more information from Arlington:

https://arlingtonsoccer.com/programs/travel/age-group-transition

Nothing to see here that's why. ECNL was always going SY no doubt, so is GA. this forum has only two main topics left: does ECNL allow grade exceptions, highly unlikely. Do Mar-July Dads of MLSN kids have their world come crashing down, or do they man up and realize there are pros to being on the bottom of the age cutoff as well. sure, it may slightly reduce your already microscopic chances of a scholarship, but they will be stronger players overall.

Hold up, hold up, you are forgetting my boy the August Redact who believes that August players will not be allowed to play with their age groups (for reasons). This alone is 20+ pages of discussion for some reason.

There is also some talk of whether their will be changes allowed in the spring (unlikely) and general talk around what the clubs will do (if anything) to prepare for 26/27.

Finally, there are a few people who haven't seen that GA confirmed and keep arguing about that for some reason.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there anyone sane on this thread? I posted that Arlington hinted about this earlier this week and no one responded. Here is more information from Arlington:

https://arlingtonsoccer.com/programs/travel/age-group-transition

Nothing to see here that's why. ECNL was always going SY no doubt, so is GA. this forum has only two main topics left: does ECNL allow grade exceptions, highly unlikely. Do Mar-July Dads of MLSN kids have their world come crashing down, or do they man up and realize there are pros to being on the bottom of the age cutoff as well. sure, it may slightly reduce your already microscopic chances of a scholarship, but they will be stronger players overall.

Hold up, hold up, you are forgetting my boy the August Redact who believes that August players will not be allowed to play with their age groups (for reasons). This alone is 20+ pages of discussion for some reason.

There is also some talk of whether their will be changes allowed in the spring (unlikely) and general talk around what the clubs will do (if anything) to prepare for 26/27.

Finally, there are a few people who haven't seen that GA confirmed and keep arguing about that for some reason.

I'll also add that some are worried that their kid get will get dropped so they argue that the trapped older kids are terrible at soccer and older teams will not change players because it will be distributive to team spirit. Worth at least 5-6 more pages.

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I think we've got someone commenting to themselves again.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of MLSN talk on an ECNL thread. Why don’t you people nut up and start your own thread. Because you are clearly on the wrong thread and only the two of you care about this. You can talk about your academy kids nonexistent chance of making pro elsewhere.

The chance for any P2P MLSN player to go pro is 0%. It is a marketing scam that many parents fall for. Any special rule to mimic pro-environment, trying to make those p2p MLSN look legit is fake.

This is true but all of the MLSN p2p players/parents I know also know this. Except for maybe at the U13 level, they all know the deal. They are doing it to help make a D1 or high level D2 college roster spot available. That's it. That's why my own kid does it. No one inside the program is being fooled...

And the argument from some that MLSN is just for creating some sort of pro pathway and they don't care about college or anything else is a fool. Why would they expand to P2P clubs? Why would they create MLSN2? It is literally just a youth league like any other youth league out there. The only difference is that there are a few (very few) legitimate academies at the very top.

I didnt say MLS Next players and parents dont care about playing in college. You added that because you're crazy and have an irrational hate for anything MLS. What I said was playing in college is a by product that occurs if playing professionally doesn't work out. Which is the same thing that happens with foreign Academy washouts. You dont understand this because ECNLs only goal is playing in college and its all you can comprehend.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of MLSN talk on an ECNL thread. Why don’t you people nut up and start your own thread. Because you are clearly on the wrong thread and only the two of you care about this. You can talk about your academy kids nonexistent chance of making pro elsewhere.

The chance for any P2P MLSN player to go pro is 0%. It is a marketing scam that many parents fall for. Any special rule to mimic pro-environment, trying to make those p2p MLSN look legit is fake.

This is true but all of the MLSN p2p players/parents I know also know this. Except for maybe at the U13 level, they all know the deal. They are doing it to help make a D1 or high level D2 college roster spot available. That's it. That's why my own kid does it. No one inside the program is being fooled...

And the argument from some that MLSN is just for creating some sort of pro pathway and they don't care about college or anything else is a fool. Why would they expand to P2P clubs? Why would they create MLSN2? It is literally just a youth league like any other youth league out there. The only difference is that there are a few (very few) legitimate academies at the very top.

I didnt say MLS Next players and parents dont care about playing in college. You added that because you're crazy and have an irrational hate for anything MLS. What I said was playing in college is a by product that occurs if playing professionally doesn't work out. Which is the same thing that happens with foreign Academy washouts. You dont understand this because ECNLs only goal is playing in college and its all you can comprehend.

What are you talking about? My kid plays MLSN, I like the platform better than any other for boys. You were saying that parents were being deluded by MLSN thinking their kids were going to go pro. I was arguing that that is not the case. Maybe for people looking from the outside in it is, but for anyone actually involved in P2P MLSN, we all know the deal. College ball is the priority/goal.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there anyone sane on this thread? I posted that Arlington hinted about this earlier this week and no one responded. Here is more information from Arlington:

https://arlingtonsoccer.com/programs/travel/age-group-transition

Nothing to see here that's why. ECNL was always going SY no doubt, so is GA. this forum has only two main topics left: does ECNL allow grade exceptions, highly unlikely. Do Mar-July Dads of MLSN kids have their world come crashing down, or do they man up and realize there are pros to being on the bottom of the age cutoff as well. sure, it may slightly reduce your already microscopic chances of a scholarship, but they will be stronger players overall.

Hold up, hold up, you are forgetting my boy the August Redact who believes that August players will not be allowed to play with their age groups (for reasons). This alone is 20+ pages of discussion for some reason.

There is also some talk of whether their will be changes allowed in the spring (unlikely) and general talk around what the clubs will do (if anything) to prepare for 26/27.

Finally, there are a few people who haven't seen that GA confirmed and keep arguing about that for some reason.

I'll also add that some are worried that their kid get will get dropped so they argue that the trapped older kids are terrible at soccer and older teams will not change players because it will be distributive to team spirit. Worth at least 5-6 more pages.

That argument though (while I think it is bunk) at least has some legs as you note. This was the big argument I heard (mainly on the girls side) the last time we did an age group shift. There was a lot of drama (again, mainly on the girls side) about needing to keep successful teams together, etc. At the club I was at, we did even keep together two of our best girls teams (everyone else changed) and they played up. It was a disaster of a season and we lost the best players from both of those teams. This was at a medium (think NPL or ECRL) sized club.