Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 4

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Anonymous wrote:Dem here. I'm on the fence about whether I hope Kavanaugh isn't confirmed which means Republicans are energized and Dems lose (polls now pointing at this plus Repubs historically vote in higher numbers than Dems in midterms) or he is confirmed, energizing Dems for midterms even though we get stuck with decades of this temperamentally unfit alcoholic abuser on the SCOTUS. Given his behavior he shouldn't but it's d@mned if you do and if you don't.

You will be lucky to have a very qualified justice on SCOTUS.

I stated days ago, after the FBI investigation was started, that there would be nothing in this report that would be a game changer. The only sad thing about the investigation is that it won’t exonerate Kavanaugh. It can’t. When someone brings charges that are 36 years old, had no date or place of the alleged crime, and all the named individuals allegedly there have no knowledge of either the party of the allegations, how can you expect this report to be any game changer? I still cannot believe that people are actually believing the crap that has been alleged.
Think about it - NOTHING has corroborated her story.

Liberals know that. That's why they've pivoted to the fact that he got angry about being accused of a heinous crime as part of a political smear campaign.

And all this focus on high school yearbooks and teen boys' slang terms for farting is ridicluous. Normal people see it.

I agree with both of you. I never imagined we'd see something so wholly absurd as this confirmation process. And the people calling him an "alcoholic" - obviously he is not. He's had SIX prior FBI investigations, and all of them were clean as a whistle. He is a highly respected judge. His behavior as a teenager has nothing to do with his decades of experience on the bench and good works as a citizen. The whole thing is truly disgusting.

This is not true. First, there are witnesses who said they have NEVER been interviewed by the FBI. Their names and relationships were never shared with the FBI to interview them - people like high school and college classmates. Second, there is implication from Sen Sasse and Sen Leahy that there are notes of sexual impropriety in previous background checks.

Please stop spreading lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh has no business being on the SCOTUS. He will be tainted forever and should be impeached as soon as possible.

Should he be removed after impeachment?

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Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh created all this drama himself. Had he behaved honorablely in the past, we wouldn’t be here today.

You're kidding, right? If Feinstein hasn't held on to the letter and then leaked it at the last minute, and steered Ford to the activist liberal lawyer, we wouldn't be here today.

So Senator Fienstein is to blame for Kavanaugh acting like a bufoon in high school and then lying about it last week. Got it.

What happened to personal responsibility, you know, owning that you were a bufoon in high school and telling the truth about it today? Let's blame the lady.

[Anonymous]

DP. Wow. But I guess it's perfectly ok for Kavanaugh's wife, kids, parents, friends, and colleagues to read all kinds of salacious information about his private life and for DCUM loonies, like yourself, to pick it all apart online, for all to see? Just a thought.. idiot, indeed

NP. I haven't read anything about his family. Kavanaugh himself dragged his family into it during the hearing. He mentioned his 10 year old daughter "suggesting" that they pray for "the woman". Sorry, not believable. His wife appears to dutifully support him (likely with her own doubts and confusion). But she is protecting her kids first. Do you actually think that a 10 year old is aware of the specific details? Did dad have a heart to heart with his 10 year old daughter about a woman accusing him of a heinous attempted rape? Did his wife have that conversation with their DD? Highly unlikely! A mother will buffer and protect their children first and foremost, to their death.

Kavanaugh used his daughter in that hearing scenario to portray his "alter boy" profile. Shame on him. He should not have mentioned his family, at all. This in addition to all of the other bullshit coming out of his mouth.

However, this will be a vote based on his past indiscretions during his political career and prior. No witnesses to the assault. The judgement will be based on his character, integrity, and proof or not of perjury, despite plenty of unheard accounts of alleged victims, those that support the unheard and those that drank/lived with him. Serious mistakes on both party sides. Demeaning mockery of Ford by Trump. Senators who might be swayed one way or the other. Americans who will protest the decision, regardless. 'Murcia!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dem here. I'm on the fence about whether I hope Kavanaugh isn't confirmed which means Republicans are energized and Dems lose (polls now pointing at this plus Repubs historically vote in higher numbers than Dems in midterms) or he is confirmed, energizing Dems for midterms even though we get stuck with decades of this temperamentally unfit alcoholic abuser on the SCOTUS. Given his behavior he shouldn't but it's d@mned if you do and if you don't.

You will be lucky to have a very qualified justice on SCOTUS.

I stated days ago, after the FBI investigation was started, that there would be nothing in this report that would be a game changer. The only sad thing about the investigation is that it won’t exonerate Kavanaugh. It can’t. When someone brings charges that are 36 years old, had no date or place of the alleged crime, and all the named individuals allegedly there have no knowledge of either the party of the allegations, how can you expect this report to be any game changer? I still cannot believe that people are actually believing the crap that has been alleged.
Think about it - NOTHING has corroborated her story.

Liberals know that. That's why they've pivoted to the fact that he got angry about being accused of a heinous crime as part of a political smear campaign.

And all this focus on high school yearbooks and teen boys' slang terms for farting is ridicluous. Normal people see it.

I agree with both of you. I never imagined we'd see something so wholly absurd as this confirmation process. And the people calling him an "alcoholic" - obviously he is not. He's had SIX prior FBI investigations, and all of them were clean as a whistle. He is a highly respected judge. His behavior as a teenager has nothing to do with his decades of experience on the bench and good works as a citizen. The whole thing is truly disgusting.

I agree with you that behavior during one's teens may not matter much in the grand scheme. What matters in this case is that he seems to have lied about it while under oath. If he lied about silly minutiae, like what different terms mean in his yearbook, what else might he lie about? It calls one's character in question when they are shown to be liars, per several of his former classmates/roommates.

[Anonymous]

Will we get a sense of what “the 5” are thinking before they actually vote? Do they really not know yet? This seems unnecessarily dramatic to me.

[Anonymous]

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DP. Wow. But I guess it's perfectly ok for Kavanaugh's wife, kids, parents, friends, and colleagues to read all kinds of salacious information about his private life and for DCUM loonies, like yourself, to pick it all apart online, for all to see? Just a thought.. idiot, indeed

NP. I haven't read anything about his family. Kavanaugh himself dragged his family into it during the hearing. He mentioned his 10 year old daughter "suggesting" that they pray for "the woman". Sorry, not believable. His wife appears to dutifully support him (likely with her own doubts and confusion). But she is protecting her kids first. Do you actually think that a 10 year old is aware of the specific details? Did dad have a heart to heart with his 10 year old daughter about a woman accusing him of a heinous attempted rape? Did his wife have that conversation with their DD? Highly unlikely! A mother will buffer and protect their children first and foremost, to their death.

Kavanaugh used his daughter in that hearing scenario to portray his "alter boy" profile. Shame on him. He should not have mentioned his family, at all. This in addition to all of the other bullshit coming out of his mouth.

However, this will be a vote based on his past indiscretions during his political career and prior. No witnesses to the assault. The judgement will be based on his character, integrity, and proof or not of perjury, despite plenty of unheard accounts of alleged victims, those that support the unheard and those that drank/lived with him. Serious mistakes on both party sides. Demeaning mockery of Ford by Trump. Senators who might be swayed one way or the other. Americans who will protest the decision, regardless. 'Murcia!

I'm sure his wife is well aware of how he behaves when under the influence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh created all this drama himself. Had he behaved honorablely in the past, we wouldn’t be here today.

You're kidding, right? If Feinstein hasn't held on to the letter and then leaked it at the last minute, and steered Ford to the activist liberal lawyer, we wouldn't be here today.

So Senator Fienstein is to blame for Kavanaugh acting like a bufoon in high school and then lying about it last week. Got it.

What happened to personal responsibility, you know, owning that you were a bufoon in high school and telling the truth about it today? Let's blame the lady.

I see you moved on from racism to sexism.

I'm a lady myself. That doesn't mean I can't criticize a woman when she orchestrates a smear campaign, designed to destroy someone's reputation because she doesn't agree with his politics. She was so in cahoots with Ford's lawyer, whom whe recommended, that it's a travesty.

And far as personal responsibility, he acknowledged he drank too much in high school. But we are talking about HIGH SCHOOL, FFS. He's been a great judge, a fine legal scholar, and deserving of this confirmation.

And stop worrying about Roe v Wade, which is REALLY what this is all about. It won't be overturned.

[Anonymous]

Question for those familiar with Senate procedure - if the cloture vote passes tomorrow does that mean the game's over on confirmation?

[Anonymous]

The FBI should have questioned the GP football player who lived 4 blocks from Columbia Country Club.

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Anonymous wrote:Her allegation was unsupported.
She was sympathetic in her testimony.
When you read the testimony--especially Mitchell's paper--it is clear that her testimony was seriously flawed, especially compared to her earlier statements. She couldn't remember what she told WAPO two months ago--how can you trust what she says happened 30+ (that is one of the issues) years ago. Particularly, when she initially said her "late teens" and changed it to"15."

If you look at the facts, the only reason anyone believes her is because they want to do so. The Dems mostly came out saying that they "believed her" even before we heard from her.

If this is what the Democrats represent, and, if they get the power, then we are in very serious trouble.

+1

They believe her because, well, they believe her. There has not been a single piece of hard evidence that corroborates her story. There have been a mountain of inconsistencies in her ever changing accounts surrounding this case. 1) Did she coach anyone for polygraph; 2) Did she take a polygraph on the same day of her grandmother's funeral 3) Did she share notes with the Post 4) Did she put in a second door for google interns or herself 5) Did she live in a 500 sq ft studio 6) Was she afraid of flying 7) Did she know who paid for her poly 8) Did she know her lawyers work for free 9) Did she know senate staffers were willing to come to her 10) 4 boys, or 2 boys; late teens, early 1980s, mid 1980s, 1980s, or 1982.

Honestly I don't know why Dr. Ford is not investigated for perjury.

Your nonstop attacking of Dr Ford does not change the fact that Brett Kavanaugh is not the right person for the job.
Sorry if you thought it would help. Or are you just a crazy misogynist fool? Or both perhaps..

Fact: Ford could not put together a comprehensive enough story with enough verifiable fact. She accused a man publicly of attempted rape, which resulted in absolute crucification in the media. He then had to come out and not only defend himself, but protect his family from the fallout. And he did just that. I would say he's not the right man for the job had he NOT come out swinging.

+1,000,000
I was ambivalent until I saw him defend himself. Finally, someone who's not going to back down when wrongly accused.

+2,000,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will we get a sense of what “the 5” are thinking before they actually vote? Do they really not know yet? This seems unnecessarily dramatic to me.

After what happened to Flake being confronted in the elevator by the two women, I would think those who want to vote in favor of Kavanaugh's confirmation will just keep quiet about it to the end and then just cast their vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh created all this drama himself. Had he behaved honorablely in the past, we wouldn’t be here today.

You're kidding, right? If Feinstein hasn't held on to the letter and then leaked it at the last minute, and steered Ford to the activist liberal lawyer, we wouldn't be here today.

So Senator Fienstein is to blame for Kavanaugh acting like a bufoon in high school and then lying about it last week. Got it.

What happened to personal responsibility, you know, owning that you were a bufoon in high school and telling the truth about it today? Let's blame the lady.

I see you moved on from racism to sexism.

I'm a lady myself. That doesn't mean I can't criticize a woman when she orchestrates a smear campaign, designed to destroy someone's reputation because she doesn't agree with his politics. She was so in cahoots with Ford's lawyer, whom whe recommended, that it's a travesty.

And far as personal responsibility, he acknowledged he drank too much in high school. But we are talking about HIGH SCHOOL, FFS. He's been a great judge, a fine legal scholar, and deserving of this confirmation.

And stop worrying about Roe v Wade, which is REALLY what this is all about. It won't be overturned.

Various groups and individuals who initially supported his nomination have pulled support after his testimony. Under pressure, he showed his true colors. He lies, he is deeply partisan, he is disrespectful to members of the Senate that he does not agree with. At this point, he has destroyed his own reputation. If he had nothing to hide, he would have immediately agreed to the FBI investigation. If he had nothing to hide, he would have answered direct questions posed by Senators instead of trying to misdirect with repetitious answers about his academic achievements and where he went to law school. The crying and the anger were understandable in light of the allegations. The rest of his behavior during testimony was not.

Take the blinders off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

DP. Wow. But I guess it's perfectly ok for Kavanaugh's wife, kids, parents, friends, and colleagues to read all kinds of salacious information about his private life and for DCUM loonies, like yourself, to pick it all apart online, for all to see? Just a thought.. idiot, indeed

NP. I haven't read anything about his family. Kavanaugh himself dragged his family into it during the hearing. He mentioned his 10 year old daughter "suggesting" that they pray for "the woman". Sorry, not believable. His wife appears to dutifully support him (likely with her own doubts and confusion). But she is protecting her kids first. Do you actually think that a 10 year old is aware of the specific details? Did dad have a heart to heart with his 10 year old daughter about a woman accusing him of a heinous attempted rape? Did his wife have that conversation with their DD? Highly unlikely! A mother will buffer and protect their children first and foremost, to their death.

Kavanaugh used his daughter in that hearing scenario to portray his "alter boy" profile. Shame on him. He should not have mentioned his family, at all. This in addition to all of the other bullshit coming out of his mouth.

However, this will be a vote based on his past indiscretions during his political career and prior. No witnesses to the assault. The judgement will be based on his character, integrity, and proof or not of perjury, despite plenty of unheard accounts of alleged victims, those that support the unheard and those that drank/lived with him. Serious mistakes on both party sides. Demeaning mockery of Ford by Trump. Senators who might be swayed one way or the other. Americans who will protest the decision, regardless. 'Murcia!

My guess is they told their daughters the woman accusing their dad is “ill.” Hence the need to pray for her. I’m anti-Kavanaugh, but that’s what I would have done in Ashley’s position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh created all this drama himself. Had he behaved honorablely in the past, we wouldn’t be here today.

You're kidding, right? If Feinstein hasn't held on to the letter and then leaked it at the last minute, and steered Ford to the activist liberal lawyer, we wouldn't be here today.

So Senator Fienstein is to blame for Kavanaugh acting like a bufoon in high school and then lying about it last week. Got it.

What happened to personal responsibility, you know, owning that you were a bufoon in high school and telling the truth about it today? Let's blame the lady.

I see you moved on from racism to sexism.

I'm a lady myself. That doesn't mean I can't criticize a woman when she orchestrates a smear campaign, designed to destroy someone's reputation because she doesn't agree with his politics. She was so in cahoots with Ford's lawyer, whom whe recommended, that it's a travesty.

And far as personal responsibility, he acknowledged he drank too much in high school. But we are talking about HIGH SCHOOL, FFS. He's been a great judge, a fine legal scholar, and deserving of this confirmation.

And stop worrying about Roe v Wade, which is REALLY what this is all about. It won't be overturned.

Admit it, you like your judges to be liars. How do you expect a witness in the judicial system to be expected to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth when a supreme court justice isn't held to the same standard?