War with Iran Part II

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Top Iranian official says they are not close on any deal and the US is not serious about negotiations.

Even Baghdad Bob here is starting to suspect that something is up.


15 weeks and Trump has said we are close to a deal 38 times.

It’s been more than two months since President Donald Trump announced a ceasefire with Iran, saying at the time that the two sides were close to a deal.

Trump said on social media on April 7 that they were “very far along” but needed two weeks for “the Agreement to be finalized and consummated.” He concluded by saying that “it is an Honor to have this Longterm problem close to resolution.”

There was no resolution, of course. But Trump has nonetheless spent the two months since then continuing to suggest a deal was right around the corner. A lot.
Including the period before the ceasefire, he’s done it at least 38 times. That’s the number of times he’s said directly — in social media posts, public appearances and phone calls with the media — that a deal was nigh or claimed Iran was desperate to cut one

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/09/politics/times-trump-iran-deal-close
Anonymous
He almost gets it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Israel did the same thing to their other ally, the British. The British administration in Palestine was a target of violent Zionist terror gangs throughout the mid 1940s after the British lost everything fighting ww2/hitler . A Broadway play was even used to boost their cause/ support

https://newlinesmag.com/essays/how-broadway-helped-the-zionist-revolt-against-britain/


Wait, now we're supposed to be *in favor* of imperial colonialism?


No. Absolutely not. But let’s not forget why the British went to Palestine in the first place. It was only to give Jews a homeland via the Balfour declaration of 1917. Britain never cared about Palestine until Zionists gave British the idea. The Brit’s already had their Suez Canal. They could easily cross the Red Sea to reach the Indian Ocean/their colonies. They also went from Africa to India via the ocean.

Britain never gave much thought about the Ottoman Empire/Middle East prior to WW1/Zionist lobbying because they didn’t need to. Britain lasted maybe 50 years or less as the primary Zionist sponsor until things moved to France and finally the US in 1967
Anonymous
Total aside, but I have been getting medical care at Walter reed for twenty years while my spouse fought in the last war (wars?). I don't really even know how to sum up what happened post 9/11 because it was many rolling conflicts and fronts and there hasn't really been any kind of summation - a complex and strange conflict. But to land the plane- used to see many, many grievously injured service members there. Then very few. Then the other day I saw a shockingly wounded young person. It could have been this conflict with Iran, it could have been a car accident. Idk, I didn't ask. But it clocked for me how I hadn't seen anyone freshly wounded there in a good amount of time.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Israel did the same thing to their other ally, the British. The British administration in Palestine was a target of violent Zionist terror gangs throughout the mid 1940s after the British lost everything fighting ww2/hitler . A Broadway play was even used to boost their cause/ support

https://newlinesmag.com/essays/how-broadway-helped-the-zionist-revolt-against-britain/


Wait, now we're supposed to be *in favor* of imperial colonialism?


No. Absolutely not. But let’s not forget why the British went to Palestine in the first place. It was only to give Jews a homeland via the Balfour declaration of 1917. Britain never cared about Palestine until Zionists gave British the idea. The Brit’s already had their Suez Canal. They could easily cross the Red Sea to reach the Indian Ocean/their colonies. They also went from Africa to India via the ocean.

Britain never gave much thought about the Ottoman Empire/Middle East prior to WW1/Zionist lobbying because they didn’t need to. Britain lasted maybe 50 years or less as the primary Zionist sponsor until things moved to France and finally the US in 1967


The British were interested in the ME prior to WW1. Some of their interest was a natural extension of their control over the Indian subcontinent.

No need to rewrite history.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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Not going to happen while Israel is in control. After all, Vance was reporting directly to Netanyahu during the previous negotiations in Pakistan.
Anonymous
At this point, there is no getting out of Iran without completel humiliation, unless iran has compassion on a democrat in the white house in 2029.
Anonymous
Getting out without bombing all their military and political government facilities would truly be a bad decision.
Every base, airfield, and ministry other than pedagogy and health, etc. (those that provide services to the poor and sick) should be leveled.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Getting out without bombing all their military and political government facilities would truly be a bad decision.
Every base, airfield, and ministry other than pedagogy and health, etc. (those that provide services to the poor and sick) should be leveled.


So the US goes and bombs the hell out of Iran and then leaves? That's your "good decision" plan? Because Iran will just sit on its hands and do nothing by way of retaliation?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Getting out without bombing all their military and political government facilities would truly be a bad decision.
Every base, airfield, and ministry other than pedagogy and health, etc. (those that provide services to the poor and sick) should be leveled.


Do you know how large Iran is? Its 4x as large as Iraq and we all know how well the US did there
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Getting out without bombing all their military and political government facilities would truly be a bad decision.
Every base, airfield, and ministry other than pedagogy and health, etc. (those that provide services to the poor and sick) should be leveled.


It is not possible. Israel and the US took their best shot and failed. If the US attacks(let’s face it Israel is a paper tiger incapable of doing anything but keeping the war going) Iran destroys 20% of the world’s oil production for 10-15 years. This would mean oil at $200 a barrel and $12 a gallon gas.

If you think Israel has problems now wait till you see the world’s reaction.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Getting out without bombing all their military and political government facilities would truly be a bad decision.
Every base, airfield, and ministry other than pedagogy and health, etc. (those that provide services to the poor and sick) should be leveled.


If that would work, they'd have done it already. They'd have to use so much more of their dwindling material to do so. The US is now officially stuck, with Iran and Israel clearly in charge.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Getting out without bombing all their military and political government facilities would truly be a bad decision.
Every base, airfield, and ministry other than pedagogy and health, etc. (those that provide services to the poor and sick) should be leveled.

Trump says they have been, you don’t believe him?
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