Former Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax - murder/suicide?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really irritated by all the social media posts I'm seeing blaming the rape victims for this as though 1) they weren't actually telling the truth and 2) that somehow explains murder.

+1. The story goes that Justin Fairfax was so despondent over these “false allegations” that he “spiraled into mental illness” and then just had to kill the mother of his children. PUHLEESE. Murder suicide is not about mental illness, it’s about control. If I can’t have it, you can’t either.

Now that the 48 hours is up, let’s just say I had the ick on this guy and I feel vindicated. The way he made it absolutely clear that he felt entitled to the governorship after Northam’s blackface scandal came out as a matter of racial justice, all the while knowing he had multiple and more recent gender violence skeletons in his own closet, just struck me as so cynical and gross. This guy amplified Republican crap, lead the pile on, and went after an objectively decent man who was doing good for Virginians because it served his own ambitions.

Not to excuse what Northam did one bit, but the 80s in the South was a different time. The consensus on blackface being unequivocally bad is a relatively recent cultural development. He was caught flat footed and rightfully paid the price.

But we all knew rape and assault were bad in the 2000s.

Both men saw the end of their political careers, but Northam at least had a legacy of distinguished service to marginalized populations that he could fall back on. Fairfax apparently was a miserable, lying drunk whose own wife installed cameras in her home to protect herself.

It’s not like law firms shy away from aggressive lawyers with checkered pasts - people saw through this guy. All of his charm just hid the fact he was a narcissist who served no one it himself, and when people started to see that, he was cooked. Look at all the “friends” who wanted nothing to do with him after the scandal came out. Everyone suspected it was true.

All of this. He was a cowardly, rapey, murdering piece of sh*t. The mod of this site and other outlets are making up any and every excuse they can come up with because they too are tribal pieces of sh*t that will protect POC and Dems at all cost, even if that includes throwing women to their death.

+1 it’s gross.

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It is gross, but it’s 100% aligned with the current anti-woman bent of the Democrats. Just par for the course at this point.

Say the thugs who repeatedly bend over for a man who raped children and bragged about molesting beauty queens. Hit me again with your maternal deaths. Your bogus Bible literalism.

I’m a Democrat. And nobody said the Republicans were any better. You are just grasping for that immediately because you know it’s true the Democrats have enthusiastically leaned into misogyny. I mean, in this thread of all threads, you are going to reach for your talismanic prayer to Trump? You are proving the point.

What are you even talking about? And yeah right about being a Dem. You GOP thugs are salivating at the thought that it was a black Democrat who annihilated his family this time, and not another white conservative male with an arsenal.

You are a good example of a blue cultist, and why in polling the Democrats as a party remain less popular than the Republicans, even with a president as horrific as Trump.

Look at this thread. Look at it! It is an object lesson in Democratic failure and those of us who cling to some small hope of the Democrats maybe actively trying not to be genuinely awful are in despair. Of course I am a Democrat. I am just one who is profoundly disillusioned by the party, and this thread is a good object lesson in why. And I’m not alone. Outside of the blue cultists, the rest of Democrats are desperately trying to right the ship. People like you just want to sink it.

Absolutely. And true independents like DH and I will end up voting for the next Gary Johnson or whatever because neither party offers anything.

Np and I agree 100%.

The comments by people who proudly claim to be democrats are sickening.

I 100% do not understand the people saying this is an example of problems with Democrats. As soon as the allegations came out about Fairfax, the Dems dropped him like a hot potato. Unlike people on the right who continue to be embraced despite credible allegations. Dems don’t play with that sh-t. Even Franken, whom everyone liked and who was actually good at his job, got dumped.

Do you think it was a complete secret that he was an abusive jerk when the Democrats were initially promoting him? Like this is so, so surprising, goodness me nobody could have known?

It defies credibility. And this is a problem elsewhere in the party too. There were rumors about Swalwell’s behavior towards women for literally years, before he was even a representative. He got taken out by the party apparatus only now because the machine was afraid they’d lose California to the Republican with him on the race.

No, you are not going to convince me the Democrats care at all about the behaviors of their political candidates towards women. The party cares when they need to care, and at no other point.

It’s clear that Fairfax, at one time, was incredibly charming. Many narcissists are. And high end/big money lawyers and prosecutors aren’t known for being docile. Aggression is what people expect and are paying for.

I could see people being taken with him and inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially as a young black man with his pedigree.

But it is clear to me that the right people did not like what they saw when Northam was going through his scandal and were determined that Fairfax did not see the governor’s office. Enough people saw enough truth between the Fairfax in office and the Fairfax accused of sexual assault that the allegations stuck. And it turns out, we were all right. The kind of guy who abuses his wife for years and murders the mother of his children is exactly the kind of guy who doesn’t care about consent.

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This guy was a total criminal scumbag.

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Anonymous wrote:So sad! She was a smart, accomplished woman, and those poor kids will need therapy for life.

Fairfax was such a disgusting opportunist and I found the rape allegations against him very credible ( I remember the WaPo did an in-depth investigation and interviewed one of his victims)

I guess his wife didn’t believe the victim?

Oh chose not to believe for his political career. She could file for divorce back when these allegations came out and before he completely derailed mentally.

Or she did believe, and was trying to be pragmatic about it because she had children, took a vow, and personally had a lot to lose. Narcissists don’t tend to make divorce easy. Especially not ones who still have some degree of power and influence which Fairfax did at the time (he was still making six figures into 2024 apparently).

I mean really - how many of you 50 something SAHM Biglaw wives would leave your spouse if you found out today that there was an allegation that they might not have accepted no for an answer during a drunken night in college? Considering how many people put up with worse on the regular because the alternative is poverty, I’m guessing not many.

I think that’s what the point here is. Divorce should come sooner rather than later when there is serious dysfunction or tension. It can get much worse.

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48 hours is over.


I met Justin Fairfax for the first time in August of 2017, and within 30 seconds of that, I knew he was an a-hole. He was on the way up back then, and you could still feel it. I wouldn’t have pegged him as a murderer, but I’m also not even a little bit surprised. I think the term I’ve heard for people like him is “malignant narcissist” - and it’s highly befitting him.

I feel totally validated.

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Anonymous wrote:Could there be processes that get guns temporarily confiscated during family law proceedings if there has been red flag behaviors like alcoholism and fights? Just getting rid of the easy access might help in situations like this.

Virginia has red flag laws. But someone has to feel comfortable making the report without fear of retaliation. The person responsible for half your kids' tuition and the mortgage - you comfortable reporting on them?

She was a dentist, FFS. Of course she could afford to walk away, rent a small apartment, either cover kids' tuition by herself or put them into public school for a period of divorce. This is really bothers me - according to the article, she knew he purchased the gun in 2022. She knew for at least several months he was heavy drinker. She knew that he does not value human lives. Why was she staying in the same house with him?

She can't force him to leave their jointly owned house. She eventually had to get a court order to force him to leave the house, and he literally murdered her days later.

My guess why she didn't leave -- he has no money. He makes little and spends everything. He would have let the house go into foreclosure and would have been homeless. It's an incredibly uncomfortable and difficult situation.

And while she likely makes good money as a dentist, it sure sounds like he put their family in dire straits financially. She entered into a post-nuptial agreement whereby they separated finances so that she could protect herself, and he didn't hold up any of his end of the bargain, which is why she initiated divorce and separation. I'd guess they drained everything on legal fees and he accumulated massive debts in both of their names.

Try to be less of an a**hole.

People leave their spouses every single day. She could have moved out with an emergency custody order. I know people who got their spouse booted from the house and supervised visitation based on much, much less. I’m not saying this to criticize her but to correct the impression that people are stuck in the marital house with their abuser.

He was planning to kill her since 2022. She was getting shot one way or another. Unless she truly skipped town to a hiding place he couldn’t find or afford to get to.

Then that is what she needed to do. I’m not saying that this would have protected her but I am absolutely appalled at people suggesting women have no recourse.

Agreed. That’s exactly what she needed to do. I was just saying, staying nearby and otherwise keeping her same routine wasn’t going to help. He would’ve showed up somewhere else she frequented. He bought that gun during the divorce to get her.

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Anonymous wrote:Could there be processes that get guns temporarily confiscated during family law proceedings if there has been red flag behaviors like alcoholism and fights? Just getting rid of the easy access might help in situations like this.

Virginia has red flag laws. But someone has to feel comfortable making the report without fear of retaliation. The person responsible for half your kids' tuition and the mortgage - you comfortable reporting on them?

She was a dentist, FFS. Of course she could afford to walk away, rent a small apartment, either cover kids' tuition by herself or put them into public school for a period of divorce. This is really bothers me - according to the article, she knew he purchased the gun in 2022. She knew for at least several months he was heavy drinker. She knew that he does not value human lives. Why was she staying in the same house with him?

She can't force him to leave their jointly owned house. She eventually had to get a court order to force him to leave the house, and he literally murdered her days later.

My guess why she didn't leave -- he has no money. He makes little and spends everything. He would have let the house go into foreclosure and would have been homeless. It's an incredibly uncomfortable and difficult situation.

And while she likely makes good money as a dentist, it sure sounds like he put their family in dire straits financially. She entered into a post-nuptial agreement whereby they separated finances so that she could protect herself, and he didn't hold up any of his end of the bargain, which is why she initiated divorce and separation. I'd guess they drained everything on legal fees and he accumulated massive debts in both of their names.

Try to be less of an a**hole.

People leave their spouses every single day. She could have moved out with an emergency custody order. I know people who got their spouse booted from the house and supervised visitation based on much, much less. I’m not saying this to criticize her but to correct the impression that people are stuck in the marital house with their abuser.

He was planning to kill her since 2022. She was getting shot one way or another. Unless she truly skipped town to a hiding place he couldn’t find or afford to get to.

I think he was planning on killing himself when he fled to that park.

My exact thought when I read that part was they should’ve left him there

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Anonymous wrote:Do all of you people saying “she should have done this or that” really think she or anyone else really saw this coming?

Yes. She saw it coming hence the cameras in the house. She probably thought he was going to be smoother like Scott Peterson about it and wanted to leave evidence.

She must’ve felt helpless like she couldn’t go to anyone with this.

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People leave their spouses every single day. She could have moved out with an emergency custody order. I know people who got their spouse booted from the house and supervised visitation based on much, much less. I’m not saying this to criticize her but to correct the impression that people are stuck in the marital house with their abuser.

The thing is, she DID get him booted from their house. The time period between the decision to leave/divorce/make him leave and the actual leaving is easily the most dangerous for women..whether is an hour or a week. Look up the stats- sadly this fits an all to common pattern.

She should have left. Much sooner. That’s the point.

Please be specific about what you are saying here. Are you saying that she should have left her children with an abusive and violent man? Or are you saying she should have taken the children without permission and left (e.g. kidnapping, which is a felony)?

Since you seem to think you know better than her what she should have done, be more specific here. Exactly what should she have done with her kids. Spell it out, please.

You commit the felony and leave the country or face the felony court case and dismiss all the men from the jury

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Anonymous wrote:Could there be processes that get guns temporarily confiscated during family law proceedings if there has been red flag behaviors like alcoholism and fights? Just getting rid of the easy access might help in situations like this.

Virginia has red flag laws. But someone has to feel comfortable making the report without fear of retaliation. The person responsible for half your kids' tuition and the mortgage - you comfortable reporting on them?

She was a dentist, FFS. Of course she could afford to walk away, rent a small apartment, either cover kids' tuition by herself or put them into public school for a period of divorce. This is really bothers me - according to the article, she knew he purchased the gun in 2022. She knew for at least several months he was heavy drinker. She knew that he does not value human lives. Why was she staying in the same house with him?

She can't force him to leave their jointly owned house. She eventually had to get a court order to force him to leave the house, and he literally murdered her days later.

My guess why she didn't leave -- he has no money. He makes little and spends everything. He would have let the house go into foreclosure and would have been homeless. It's an incredibly uncomfortable and difficult situation.

And while she likely makes good money as a dentist, it sure sounds like he put their family in dire straits financially. She entered into a post-nuptial agreement whereby they separated finances so that she could protect herself, and he didn't hold up any of his end of the bargain, which is why she initiated divorce and separation. I'd guess they drained everything on legal fees and he accumulated massive debts in both of their names.

Try to be less of an a**hole.

People leave their spouses every single day. She could have moved out with an emergency custody order. I know people who got their spouse booted from the house and supervised visitation based on much, much less. I’m not saying this to criticize her but to correct the impression that people are stuck in the marital house with their abuser.

He was planning to kill her since 2022. She was getting shot one way or another. Unless she truly skipped town to a hiding place he couldn’t find or afford to get to.

Then that is what she needed to do. I’m not saying that this would have protected her but I am absolutely appalled at people suggesting women have no recourse.

Agreed. That’s exactly what she needed to do. I was just saying, staying nearby and otherwise keeping her same routine wasn’t going to help. He would’ve showed up somewhere else she frequented. He bought that gun during the divorce to get her.

Apparently, what she needed to do was kill him first. That is the only way she would have been guaranteed safety, because as we’ve seen before, abusers go to the end of the earth when they want to find their victims. But we know how the law treats women who fight back against their abusers, particularly black women.

Dr. Fairfax is not the least bit culpable in her own murder. Please please please stop saying things that impute some level of guilt to her. Because that’s what you’re doing. Justin murdered his wife. End of story.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really irritated by all the social media posts I'm seeing blaming the rape victims for this as though 1) they weren't actually telling the truth and 2) that somehow explains murder.

+1. The story goes that Justin Fairfax was so despondent over these “false allegations” that he “spiraled into mental illness” and then just had to kill the mother of his children. PUHLEESE. Murder suicide is not about mental illness, it’s about control. If I can’t have it, you can’t either.

Now that the 48 hours is up, let’s just say I had the ick on this guy and I feel vindicated. The way he made it absolutely clear that he felt entitled to the governorship after Northam’s blackface scandal came out as a matter of racial justice, all the while knowing he had multiple and more recent gender violence skeletons in his own closet, just struck me as so cynical and gross. This guy amplified Republican crap, lead the pile on, and went after an objectively decent man who was doing good for Virginians because it served his own ambitions.

Not to excuse what Northam did one bit, but the 80s in the South was a different time. The consensus on blackface being unequivocally bad is a relatively recent cultural development. He was caught flat footed and rightfully paid the price.

But we all knew rape and assault were bad in the 2000s.

Both men saw the end of their political careers, but Northam at least had a legacy of distinguished service to marginalized populations that he could fall back on. Fairfax apparently was a miserable, lying drunk whose own wife installed cameras in her home to protect herself.

It’s not like law firms shy away from aggressive lawyers with checkered pasts - people saw through this guy. All of his charm just hid the fact he was a narcissist who served no one it himself, and when people started to see that, he was cooked. Look at all the “friends” who wanted nothing to do with him after the scandal came out. Everyone suspected it was true.

All of this. He was a cowardly, rapey, murdering piece of sh*t. The mod of this site and other outlets are making up any and every excuse they can come up with because they too are tribal pieces of sh*t that will protect POC and Dems at all cost, even if that includes throwing women to their death.

+1 it’s gross.

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It is gross, but it’s 100% aligned with the current anti-woman bent of the Democrats. Just par for the course at this point.

Say the thugs who repeatedly bend over for a man who raped children and bragged about molesting beauty queens. Hit me again with your maternal deaths. Your bogus Bible literalism.

There’s zero credible evidence Trump raped children. There are multiple accusations that Trump walked through a dressing room at a beauty pageant.

I don’t even know what the line about maternal deaths means, it’s so inappropriate to bring Trump up when an innocent woman has been murdered and her children are now without their mother. Can you discuss any topic without bringing up Trump? I seriously doubt some of you can. It’s disturbing, please try to focus and please stop bringing your personal obsession with Trump into every topic.

Because I’d think people who bow down before Epstein’s bestie like beta simps wouldn’t be calling Democrats (who have largely come out against Fairfax, btw) of being anti-woman, while putting in Stone Age superstition into law that actually kills women.

Kinda late for that now dontcha think?

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There are some real ogres on this thread.

Mrs. Fairfax is the victim. She likely was trying to do what was best for the kids. So sad.

Remember, at one time she loved him--maybe, she still did. Just proves that if a smart, educated woman cannot figure this out, how can those with fewer advantages?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really irritated by all the social media posts I'm seeing blaming the rape victims for this as though 1) they weren't actually telling the truth and 2) that somehow explains murder.

+1. The story goes that Justin Fairfax was so despondent over these “false allegations” that he “spiraled into mental illness” and then just had to kill the mother of his children. PUHLEESE. Murder suicide is not about mental illness, it’s about control. If I can’t have it, you can’t either.

Now that the 48 hours is up, let’s just say I had the ick on this guy and I feel vindicated. The way he made it absolutely clear that he felt entitled to the governorship after Northam’s blackface scandal came out as a matter of racial justice, all the while knowing he had multiple and more recent gender violence skeletons in his own closet, just struck me as so cynical and gross. This guy amplified Republican crap, lead the pile on, and went after an objectively decent man who was doing good for Virginians because it served his own ambitions.

Not to excuse what Northam did one bit, but the 80s in the South was a different time. The consensus on blackface being unequivocally bad is a relatively recent cultural development. He was caught flat footed and rightfully paid the price.

But we all knew rape and assault were bad in the 2000s.

Both men saw the end of their political careers, but Northam at least had a legacy of distinguished service to marginalized populations that he could fall back on. Fairfax apparently was a miserable, lying drunk whose own wife installed cameras in her home to protect herself.

It’s not like law firms shy away from aggressive lawyers with checkered pasts - people saw through this guy. All of his charm just hid the fact he was a narcissist who served no one it himself, and when people started to see that, he was cooked. Look at all the “friends” who wanted nothing to do with him after the scandal came out. Everyone suspected it was true.

All of this. He was a cowardly, rapey, murdering piece of sh*t. The mod of this site and other outlets are making up any and every excuse they can come up with because they too are tribal pieces of sh*t that will protect POC and Dems at all cost, even if that includes throwing women to their death.

+1 it’s gross.

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It is gross, but it’s 100% aligned with the current anti-woman bent of the Democrats. Just par for the course at this point.

Say the thugs who repeatedly bend over for a man who raped children and bragged about molesting beauty queens. Hit me again with your maternal deaths. Your bogus Bible literalism.

I’m a Democrat. And nobody said the Republicans were any better. You are just grasping for that immediately because you know it’s true the Democrats have enthusiastically leaned into misogyny. I mean, in this thread of all threads, you are going to reach for your talismanic prayer to Trump? You are proving the point.

What are you even talking about? And yeah right about being a Dem. You GOP thugs are salivating at the thought that it was a black Democrat who annihilated his family this time, and not another white conservative male with an arsenal.

And violently anti gun. Don’t forget that. We won’t

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The WaPo article about Justin Fairfax’s downward spiral is horrifying. His poor wife. I hope Eric Swalwell’s wife remains safe.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what Fairfax childhood was like? He seemed like he just was totally incapable of dealing with any set back—-if he wasn’t on a rocket ship to success, he was just going to spiral into animosity and aggression. Another person might have picked up and found a low profile way to at least put bread on the table but clearly he couldn’t stoop to that. I’m just wondering what kind of a background he came from (before Duke).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Fairfax

He graduated from DeMatha where he was Class President.

I suspect the alcoholism contributed to his spiral. Alcohol is a known depressant.

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Anonymous wrote:There are some real ogres on this thread.

Mrs. Fairfax is the victim. She likely was trying to do what was best for the kids. So sad.

Remember, at one time she loved him--maybe, she still did. Just proves that if a smart, educated woman cannot figure this out, how can those with fewer advantages?

Yes we know she was the victim. That is totally clear. And maybe this was the inevitable outcome no matter what she did. But I think it is really important for women to know that bad situations can get worse and nothing is worth staying with a spiraling or unstable man. Do what you can to get out even if it means living in a small apartment, your kids switching schools, whatever. Call a lawyer with DV experience and figure it out.

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Anonymous wrote:The WaPo article about Justin Fairfax’s downward spiral is horrifying. His poor wife. I hope Eric Swalwell’s wife remains safe.

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