Former Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax - murder/suicide?

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand why people insist on revising history when a tragedy like this takes place.

I've not seen any evidence whatsoever that Justin was an abuser and that Cerina was a domestic violence victim. The only physical violence documented in the divorce records is of Cerina hitting him. There are dozens of examples of him being a shitty human and an alcoholic. But that's not being an abuser and that isn't domestic violence.

Cerina's bestie went on record saying that Cerina was not afraid of him, and that she'd agreed to leave immediately if she ever did feel frightened. She wasn't a victim. All indications are that she was strong and stable as she fought for what she wanted in the divorce.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15744657/justin-fairfax-estranged-wife-shooting.html

Why is it that we have to create these false stories about her being a DV victim in order to make sense of a tragedy like this? The simplest answer is usually the right answer. Access to a handgun when someone is depressed and drinking and undergoing a hotly contested divorce or another of life's most stressful moments leads to disaster.

Weird take. If she wasn’t scared of him she obviously should have been. And the broader point is that no amount of advantage in a divorce is worth your household devolving into a War of the Roses scenario with surveillance cameras and cabinet locks and one spouse locked in a room drunk with a gun. I am NOT blaming her because I also let things go way too far including physically in my divorce. In Cerina’s honor let’s figure out how to enable women to get out ASAP.

If Cerina left taking the kids, Fairfax would have pressed charges for parental abduction. He's was still a lawyer and knew the system. She would have been found guilty and spent a year in jail. It's not like she could afford a decent lawyer.

Not true. If there is no custody order in place, then it is not parental abduction.

The judge granted primary custody to his wife, Cerina Fairfax, with visitation rights for Justin contingent upon passing Breathalyzer tests before and after seeing the children.

Which means that she could leave with kids and live with them separate and apart while divorce is pending. She had primary physical custody.

Fairfax had visitation rights. She had to keep in contact and make the children available. She couldn't deny him access.

Relocating to a rented apartment a 2 miles away does not equal denying access to the children. Many couples share children all the time. But I believe living separately (truly separately, not at the same house) would take an edge off and de-escalate any anger between the couples.

How do you all seem to not understand that the trigger for the murder was him being forced to move out? Like no, moving out was not going to de-escalate that homicidal situation.

I don’t think any of us know. But ending things sooner rather than later and separating households might have turned out better.

...and? WHY are we blaming the victim following the advice if her lawyer and the law.

WHY aren't we changing the law?

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Grotesque victim blaming.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand why people insist on revising history when a tragedy like this takes place.

I've not seen any evidence whatsoever that Justin was an abuser and that Cerina was a domestic violence victim. The only physical violence documented in the divorce records is of Cerina hitting him. There are dozens of examples of him being a shitty human and an alcoholic. But that's not being an abuser and that isn't domestic violence.

Cerina's bestie went on record saying that Cerina was not afraid of him, and that she'd agreed to leave immediately if she ever did feel frightened. She wasn't a victim. All indications are that she was strong and stable as she fought for what she wanted in the divorce.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15744657/justin-fairfax-estranged-wife-shooting.html

Why is it that we have to create these false stories about her being a DV victim in order to make sense of a tragedy like this? The simplest answer is usually the right answer. Access to a handgun when someone is depressed and drinking and undergoing a hotly contested divorce or another of life's most stressful moments leads to disaster.

Weird take. If she wasn’t scared of him she obviously should have been. And the broader point is that no amount of advantage in a divorce is worth your household devolving into a War of the Roses scenario with surveillance cameras and cabinet locks and one spouse locked in a room drunk with a gun. I am NOT blaming her because I also let things go way too far including physically in my divorce. In Cerina’s honor let’s figure out how to enable women to get out ASAP.

If Cerina left taking the kids, Fairfax would have pressed charges for parental abduction. He's was still a lawyer and knew the system. She would have been found guilty and spent a year in jail. It's not like she could afford a decent lawyer.

Not true. If there is no custody order in place, then it is not parental abduction.

The judge granted primary custody to his wife, Cerina Fairfax, with visitation rights for Justin contingent upon passing Breathalyzer tests before and after seeing the children.

Which means that she could leave with kids and live with them separate and apart while divorce is pending. She had primary physical custody.

Fairfax had visitation rights. She had to keep in contact and make the children available. She couldn't deny him access.

Relocating to a rented apartment a 2 miles away does not equal denying access to the children. Many couples share children all the time. But I believe living separately (truly separately, not at the same house) would take an edge off and de-escalate any anger between the couples.

How do you all seem to not understand that the trigger for the murder was him being forced to move out? Like no, moving out was not going to de-escalate that homicidal situation.

How do you not understand that if she moved out from the marital residence, then there would be no court order requiring him to move out. She wanted the house that is why she stayed there. Sometimes you have to give an idiot more money to continue to live happy life after the divorce. She was staying and fighting for 1) house and 2) spousal support that she would be required to pay him. Otherwise, she would have signed property settlement agreement long long time ago.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand why people insist on revising history when a tragedy like this takes place.

I've not seen any evidence whatsoever that Justin was an abuser and that Cerina was a domestic violence victim. The only physical violence documented in the divorce records is of Cerina hitting him. There are dozens of examples of him being a shitty human and an alcoholic. But that's not being an abuser and that isn't domestic violence.

Cerina's bestie went on record saying that Cerina was not afraid of him, and that she'd agreed to leave immediately if she ever did feel frightened. She wasn't a victim. All indications are that she was strong and stable as she fought for what she wanted in the divorce.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15744657/justin-fairfax-estranged-wife-shooting.html

Why is it that we have to create these false stories about her being a DV victim in order to make sense of a tragedy like this? The simplest answer is usually the right answer. Access to a handgun when someone is depressed and drinking and undergoing a hotly contested divorce or another of life's most stressful moments leads to disaster.

Weird take. If she wasn’t scared of him she obviously should have been. And the broader point is that no amount of advantage in a divorce is worth your household devolving into a War of the Roses scenario with surveillance cameras and cabinet locks and one spouse locked in a room drunk with a gun. I am NOT blaming her because I also let things go way too far including physically in my divorce. In Cerina’s honor let’s figure out how to enable women to get out ASAP.

If Cerina left taking the kids, Fairfax would have pressed charges for parental abduction. He's was still a lawyer and knew the system. She would have been found guilty and spent a year in jail. It's not like she could afford a decent lawyer.

Not true. If there is no custody order in place, then it is not parental abduction.

The judge granted primary custody to his wife, Cerina Fairfax, with visitation rights for Justin contingent upon passing Breathalyzer tests before and after seeing the children.

Which means that she could leave with kids and live with them separate and apart while divorce is pending. She had primary physical custody.

Fairfax had visitation rights. She had to keep in contact and make the children available. She couldn't deny him access.

Relocating to a rented apartment a 2 miles away does not equal denying access to the children. Many couples share children all the time. But I believe living separately (truly separately, not at the same house) would take an edge off and de-escalate any anger between the couples.

How do you all seem to not understand that the trigger for the murder was him being forced to move out? Like no, moving out was not going to de-escalate that homicidal situation.

I don’t think any of us know. But ending things sooner rather than later and separating households might have turned out better.

...and? WHY are we blaming the victim following the advice if her lawyer and the law.

WHY aren't we changing the law?

Because sometimes you need to follow a common sense, not the law, in order to survive.

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https://www.wric.com/news/virginia-news/change-could-be-coming-to-virginias-divorce-laws/amp/

RIP Cerina

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand why people insist on revising history when a tragedy like this takes place.

I've not seen any evidence whatsoever that Justin was an abuser and that Cerina was a domestic violence victim. The only physical violence documented in the divorce records is of Cerina hitting him. There are dozens of examples of him being a shitty human and an alcoholic. But that's not being an abuser and that isn't domestic violence.

Cerina's bestie went on record saying that Cerina was not afraid of him, and that she'd agreed to leave immediately if she ever did feel frightened. She wasn't a victim. All indications are that she was strong and stable as she fought for what she wanted in the divorce.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15744657/justin-fairfax-estranged-wife-shooting.html

Why is it that we have to create these false stories about her being a DV victim in order to make sense of a tragedy like this? The simplest answer is usually the right answer. Access to a handgun when someone is depressed and drinking and undergoing a hotly contested divorce or another of life's most stressful moments leads to disaster.

Weird take. If she wasn’t scared of him she obviously should have been. And the broader point is that no amount of advantage in a divorce is worth your household devolving into a War of the Roses scenario with surveillance cameras and cabinet locks and one spouse locked in a room drunk with a gun. I am NOT blaming her because I also let things go way too far including physically in my divorce. In Cerina’s honor let’s figure out how to enable women to get out ASAP.

If Cerina left taking the kids, Fairfax would have pressed charges for parental abduction. He's was still a lawyer and knew the system. She would have been found guilty and spent a year in jail. It's not like she could afford a decent lawyer.

Not true. If there is no custody order in place, then it is not parental abduction.

The judge granted primary custody to his wife, Cerina Fairfax, with visitation rights for Justin contingent upon passing Breathalyzer tests before and after seeing the children.

Which means that she could leave with kids and live with them separate and apart while divorce is pending. She had primary physical custody.

Fairfax had visitation rights. She had to keep in contact and make the children available. She couldn't deny him access.

Relocating to a rented apartment a 2 miles away does not equal denying access to the children. Many couples share children all the time. But I believe living separately (truly separately, not at the same house) would take an edge off and de-escalate any anger between the couples.

How do you all seem to not understand that the trigger for the murder was him being forced to move out? Like no, moving out was not going to de-escalate that homicidal situation.

I don’t think any of us know. But ending things sooner rather than later and separating households might have turned out better.

“Ending things” immediately preceded her murder, so there is no reasonable inference that ending things earlier would have led to a better outcome.

She filed for divorce in 2024. She did not need to wait until the court order him in 2026 to move out of the house, she should have done it as soon as she filed for divorce.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand why people insist on revising history when a tragedy like this takes place.

I've not seen any evidence whatsoever that Justin was an abuser and that Cerina was a domestic violence victim. The only physical violence documented in the divorce records is of Cerina hitting him. There are dozens of examples of him being a shitty human and an alcoholic. But that's not being an abuser and that isn't domestic violence.

Cerina's bestie went on record saying that Cerina was not afraid of him, and that she'd agreed to leave immediately if she ever did feel frightened. She wasn't a victim. All indications are that she was strong and stable as she fought for what she wanted in the divorce.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15744657/justin-fairfax-estranged-wife-shooting.html

Why is it that we have to create these false stories about her being a DV victim in order to make sense of a tragedy like this? The simplest answer is usually the right answer. Access to a handgun when someone is depressed and drinking and undergoing a hotly contested divorce or another of life's most stressful moments leads to disaster.

Weird take. If she wasn’t scared of him she obviously should have been. And the broader point is that no amount of advantage in a divorce is worth your household devolving into a War of the Roses scenario with surveillance cameras and cabinet locks and one spouse locked in a room drunk with a gun. I am NOT blaming her because I also let things go way too far including physically in my divorce. In Cerina’s honor let’s figure out how to enable women to get out ASAP.

If Cerina left taking the kids, Fairfax would have pressed charges for parental abduction. He's was still a lawyer and knew the system. She would have been found guilty and spent a year in jail. It's not like she could afford a decent lawyer.

Not true. If there is no custody order in place, then it is not parental abduction.

The judge granted primary custody to his wife, Cerina Fairfax, with visitation rights for Justin contingent upon passing Breathalyzer tests before and after seeing the children.

Which means that she could leave with kids and live with them separate and apart while divorce is pending. She had primary physical custody.

Fairfax had visitation rights. She had to keep in contact and make the children available. She couldn't deny him access.

Relocating to a rented apartment a 2 miles away does not equal denying access to the children. Many couples share children all the time. But I believe living separately (truly separately, not at the same house) would take an edge off and de-escalate any anger between the couples.

How do you all seem to not understand that the trigger for the murder was him being forced to move out? Like no, moving out was not going to de-escalate that homicidal situation.

I don’t think any of us know. But ending things sooner rather than later and separating households might have turned out better.

...and? WHY are we blaming the victim following the advice if her lawyer and the law.

WHY aren't we changing the law?

Because sometimes you need to follow a common sense, not the law, in order to survive.

Finally someone who thinks. Common sense is eroding in our society. I see it on the roads on a daily basis.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand why people insist on revising history when a tragedy like this takes place.

I've not seen any evidence whatsoever that Justin was an abuser and that Cerina was a domestic violence victim. The only physical violence documented in the divorce records is of Cerina hitting him. There are dozens of examples of him being a shitty human and an alcoholic. But that's not being an abuser and that isn't domestic violence.

Cerina's bestie went on record saying that Cerina was not afraid of him, and that she'd agreed to leave immediately if she ever did feel frightened. She wasn't a victim. All indications are that she was strong and stable as she fought for what she wanted in the divorce.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15744657/justin-fairfax-estranged-wife-shooting.html

Why is it that we have to create these false stories about her being a DV victim in order to make sense of a tragedy like this? The simplest answer is usually the right answer. Access to a handgun when someone is depressed and drinking and undergoing a hotly contested divorce or another of life's most stressful moments leads to disaster.

Weird take. If she wasn’t scared of him she obviously should have been. And the broader point is that no amount of advantage in a divorce is worth your household devolving into a War of the Roses scenario with surveillance cameras and cabinet locks and one spouse locked in a room drunk with a gun. I am NOT blaming her because I also let things go way too far including physically in my divorce. In Cerina’s honor let’s figure out how to enable women to get out ASAP.

If Cerina left taking the kids, Fairfax would have pressed charges for parental abduction. He's was still a lawyer and knew the system. She would have been found guilty and spent a year in jail. It's not like she could afford a decent lawyer.

Not true. If there is no custody order in place, then it is not parental abduction.

The judge granted primary custody to his wife, Cerina Fairfax, with visitation rights for Justin contingent upon passing Breathalyzer tests before and after seeing the children.

Which means that she could leave with kids and live with them separate and apart while divorce is pending. She had primary physical custody.

Fairfax had visitation rights. She had to keep in contact and make the children available. She couldn't deny him access.

Relocating to a rented apartment a 2 miles away does not equal denying access to the children. Many couples share children all the time. But I believe living separately (truly separately, not at the same house) would take an edge off and de-escalate any anger between the couples.

How do you all seem to not understand that the trigger for the murder was him being forced to move out? Like no, moving out was not going to de-escalate that homicidal situation.

I don’t think any of us know. But ending things sooner rather than later and separating households might have turned out better.

...and? WHY are we blaming the victim following the advice if her lawyer and the law.

WHY aren't we changing the law?

Because sometimes you need to follow a common sense, not the law, in order to survive.

ALWAYS the focus on the victim's behavior, not the criminal.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand why people insist on revising history when a tragedy like this takes place.

I've not seen any evidence whatsoever that Justin was an abuser and that Cerina was a domestic violence victim. The only physical violence documented in the divorce records is of Cerina hitting him. There are dozens of examples of him being a shitty human and an alcoholic. But that's not being an abuser and that isn't domestic violence.

Cerina's bestie went on record saying that Cerina was not afraid of him, and that she'd agreed to leave immediately if she ever did feel frightened. She wasn't a victim. All indications are that she was strong and stable as she fought for what she wanted in the divorce.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15744657/justin-fairfax-estranged-wife-shooting.html

Why is it that we have to create these false stories about her being a DV victim in order to make sense of a tragedy like this? The simplest answer is usually the right answer. Access to a handgun when someone is depressed and drinking and undergoing a hotly contested divorce or another of life's most stressful moments leads to disaster.

Weird take. If she wasn’t scared of him she obviously should have been. And the broader point is that no amount of advantage in a divorce is worth your household devolving into a War of the Roses scenario with surveillance cameras and cabinet locks and one spouse locked in a room drunk with a gun. I am NOT blaming her because I also let things go way too far including physically in my divorce. In Cerina’s honor let’s figure out how to enable women to get out ASAP.

If Cerina left taking the kids, Fairfax would have pressed charges for parental abduction. He's was still a lawyer and knew the system. She would have been found guilty and spent a year in jail. It's not like she could afford a decent lawyer.

Not true. If there is no custody order in place, then it is not parental abduction.

The judge granted primary custody to his wife, Cerina Fairfax, with visitation rights for Justin contingent upon passing Breathalyzer tests before and after seeing the children.

Which means that she could leave with kids and live with them separate and apart while divorce is pending. She had primary physical custody.

Fairfax had visitation rights. She had to keep in contact and make the children available. She couldn't deny him access.

Relocating to a rented apartment a 2 miles away does not equal denying access to the children. Many couples share children all the time. But I believe living separately (truly separately, not at the same house) would take an edge off and de-escalate any anger between the couples.

How do you all seem to not understand that the trigger for the murder was him being forced to move out? Like no, moving out was not going to de-escalate that homicidal situation.

How do you not understand that if she moved out from the marital residence, then there would be no court order requiring him to move out. She wanted the house that is why she stayed there. Sometimes you have to give an idiot more money to continue to live happy life after the divorce. She was staying and fighting for 1) house and 2) spousal support that she would be required to pay him. Otherwise, she would have signed property settlement agreement long long time ago.

How do you not understand that there is 50-50 custody absent a court order. She finally won primary custody and he killed her.

Do you have any evidence that she rejected settlement offers from Justin? Or are you just making a bald assumption?

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand why people insist on revising history when a tragedy like this takes place.

I've not seen any evidence whatsoever that Justin was an abuser and that Cerina was a domestic violence victim. The only physical violence documented in the divorce records is of Cerina hitting him. There are dozens of examples of him being a shitty human and an alcoholic. But that's not being an abuser and that isn't domestic violence.

Cerina's bestie went on record saying that Cerina was not afraid of him, and that she'd agreed to leave immediately if she ever did feel frightened. She wasn't a victim. All indications are that she was strong and stable as she fought for what she wanted in the divorce.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15744657/justin-fairfax-estranged-wife-shooting.html

Why is it that we have to create these false stories about her being a DV victim in order to make sense of a tragedy like this? The simplest answer is usually the right answer. Access to a handgun when someone is depressed and drinking and undergoing a hotly contested divorce or another of life's most stressful moments leads to disaster.

Weird take. If she wasn’t scared of him she obviously should have been. And the broader point is that no amount of advantage in a divorce is worth your household devolving into a War of the Roses scenario with surveillance cameras and cabinet locks and one spouse locked in a room drunk with a gun. I am NOT blaming her because I also let things go way too far including physically in my divorce. In Cerina’s honor let’s figure out how to enable women to get out ASAP.

If Cerina left taking the kids, Fairfax would have pressed charges for parental abduction. He's was still a lawyer and knew the system. She would have been found guilty and spent a year in jail. It's not like she could afford a decent lawyer.

Not true. If there is no custody order in place, then it is not parental abduction.

The judge granted primary custody to his wife, Cerina Fairfax, with visitation rights for Justin contingent upon passing Breathalyzer tests before and after seeing the children.

Which means that she could leave with kids and live with them separate and apart while divorce is pending. She had primary physical custody.

Fairfax had visitation rights. She had to keep in contact and make the children available. She couldn't deny him access.

Relocating to a rented apartment a 2 miles away does not equal denying access to the children. Many couples share children all the time. But I believe living separately (truly separately, not at the same house) would take an edge off and de-escalate any anger between the couples.

How do you all seem to not understand that the trigger for the murder was him being forced to move out? Like no, moving out was not going to de-escalate that homicidal situation.

I don’t think any of us know. But ending things sooner rather than later and separating households might have turned out better.

...and? WHY are we blaming the victim following the advice if her lawyer and the law.

WHY aren't we changing the law?

Because sometimes you need to follow a common sense, not the law, in order to survive.

ALWAYS the focus on the victim's behavior, not the criminal.

Yeah, she shouldn't have pissed him off.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand why people insist on revising history when a tragedy like this takes place.

I've not seen any evidence whatsoever that Justin was an abuser and that Cerina was a domestic violence victim. The only physical violence documented in the divorce records is of Cerina hitting him. There are dozens of examples of him being a shitty human and an alcoholic. But that's not being an abuser and that isn't domestic violence.

Cerina's bestie went on record saying that Cerina was not afraid of him, and that she'd agreed to leave immediately if she ever did feel frightened. She wasn't a victim. All indications are that she was strong and stable as she fought for what she wanted in the divorce.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15744657/justin-fairfax-estranged-wife-shooting.html

Why is it that we have to create these false stories about her being a DV victim in order to make sense of a tragedy like this? The simplest answer is usually the right answer. Access to a handgun when someone is depressed and drinking and undergoing a hotly contested divorce or another of life's most stressful moments leads to disaster.

Weird take. If she wasn’t scared of him she obviously should have been. And the broader point is that no amount of advantage in a divorce is worth your household devolving into a War of the Roses scenario with surveillance cameras and cabinet locks and one spouse locked in a room drunk with a gun. I am NOT blaming her because I also let things go way too far including physically in my divorce. In Cerina’s honor let’s figure out how to enable women to get out ASAP.

If Cerina left taking the kids, Fairfax would have pressed charges for parental abduction. He's was still a lawyer and knew the system. She would have been found guilty and spent a year in jail. It's not like she could afford a decent lawyer.

Not true. If there is no custody order in place, then it is not parental abduction.

The judge granted primary custody to his wife, Cerina Fairfax, with visitation rights for Justin contingent upon passing Breathalyzer tests before and after seeing the children.

Which means that she could leave with kids and live with them separate and apart while divorce is pending. She had primary physical custody.

Fairfax had visitation rights. She had to keep in contact and make the children available. She couldn't deny him access.

Relocating to a rented apartment a 2 miles away does not equal denying access to the children. Many couples share children all the time. But I believe living separately (truly separately, not at the same house) would take an edge off and de-escalate any anger between the couples.

How do you all seem to not understand that the trigger for the murder was him being forced to move out? Like no, moving out was not going to de-escalate that homicidal situation.

How do you not understand that if she moved out from the marital residence, then there would be no court order requiring him to move out. She wanted the house that is why she stayed there. Sometimes you have to give an idiot more money to continue to live happy life after the divorce. She was staying and fighting for 1) house and 2) spousal support that she would be required to pay him. Otherwise, she would have signed property settlement agreement long long time ago.

How do you not understand that there is 50-50 custody absent a court order. She finally won primary custody and he killed her.

Do you have any evidence that she rejected settlement offers from Justin? Or are you just making a bald assumption?

I don't think that was the issue. The kids are teens. I think he was just full of anger. I assume he had no income, no job, and no where to live. All his fault. I've no idea if the accusations about sexual assault were true, but even if they were not, he should have moved on with his life. But, he didn't.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand why people insist on revising history when a tragedy like this takes place.

I've not seen any evidence whatsoever that Justin was an abuser and that Cerina was a domestic violence victim. The only physical violence documented in the divorce records is of Cerina hitting him. There are dozens of examples of him being a shitty human and an alcoholic. But that's not being an abuser and that isn't domestic violence.

Cerina's bestie went on record saying that Cerina was not afraid of him, and that she'd agreed to leave immediately if she ever did feel frightened. She wasn't a victim. All indications are that she was strong and stable as she fought for what she wanted in the divorce.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15744657/justin-fairfax-estranged-wife-shooting.html

Why is it that we have to create these false stories about her being a DV victim in order to make sense of a tragedy like this? The simplest answer is usually the right answer. Access to a handgun when someone is depressed and drinking and undergoing a hotly contested divorce or another of life's most stressful moments leads to disaster.

Weird take. If she wasn’t scared of him she obviously should have been. And the broader point is that no amount of advantage in a divorce is worth your household devolving into a War of the Roses scenario with surveillance cameras and cabinet locks and one spouse locked in a room drunk with a gun. I am NOT blaming her because I also let things go way too far including physically in my divorce. In Cerina’s honor let’s figure out how to enable women to get out ASAP.

If Cerina left taking the kids, Fairfax would have pressed charges for parental abduction. He's was still a lawyer and knew the system. She would have been found guilty and spent a year in jail. It's not like she could afford a decent lawyer.

Not true. If there is no custody order in place, then it is not parental abduction.

The judge granted primary custody to his wife, Cerina Fairfax, with visitation rights for Justin contingent upon passing Breathalyzer tests before and after seeing the children.

Which means that she could leave with kids and live with them separate and apart while divorce is pending. She had primary physical custody.

Fairfax had visitation rights. She had to keep in contact and make the children available. She couldn't deny him access.

Relocating to a rented apartment a 2 miles away does not equal denying access to the children. Many couples share children all the time. But I believe living separately (truly separately, not at the same house) would take an edge off and de-escalate any anger between the couples.

How do you all seem to not understand that the trigger for the murder was him being forced to move out? Like no, moving out was not going to de-escalate that homicidal situation.

I don’t think any of us know. But ending things sooner rather than later and separating households might have turned out better.

“Ending things” immediately preceded her murder, so there is no reasonable inference that ending things earlier would have led to a better outcome.

She filed for divorce in 2024. She did not need to wait until the court order him in 2026 to move out of the house, she should have done it as soon as she filed for divorce.

Wrong. She filed in June 2025 with a separation date of June 2024. She filed 1 year and 1 day after the date of separation. The entire process is arduous and lengthy, especially when one party is not cooperative and things are not amicable which was the case with Justin. So 10 months after she filed things were moving along but at a slow rate.

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RIP Cerina

It’s about time someone looked at Virginia’s archaic divorce laws.

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The word on the street is that Justin Fairfax’s funeral was yesterday. I did not attend but spoke with someone whose friend attended. I don’t think Cerina’s funeral has taken place yet.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand why people insist on revising history when a tragedy like this takes place.

I've not seen any evidence whatsoever that Justin was an abuser and that Cerina was a domestic violence victim. The only physical violence documented in the divorce records is of Cerina hitting him. There are dozens of examples of him being a shitty human and an alcoholic. But that's not being an abuser and that isn't domestic violence.

Cerina's bestie went on record saying that Cerina was not afraid of him, and that she'd agreed to leave immediately if she ever did feel frightened. She wasn't a victim. All indications are that she was strong and stable as she fought for what she wanted in the divorce.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15744657/justin-fairfax-estranged-wife-shooting.html

Why is it that we have to create these false stories about her being a DV victim in order to make sense of a tragedy like this? The simplest answer is usually the right answer. Access to a handgun when someone is depressed and drinking and undergoing a hotly contested divorce or another of life's most stressful moments leads to disaster.

Weird take. If she wasn’t scared of him she obviously should have been. And the broader point is that no amount of advantage in a divorce is worth your household devolving into a War of the Roses scenario with surveillance cameras and cabinet locks and one spouse locked in a room drunk with a gun. I am NOT blaming her because I also let things go way too far including physically in my divorce. In Cerina’s honor let’s figure out how to enable women to get out ASAP.

If Cerina left taking the kids, Fairfax would have pressed charges for parental abduction. He's was still a lawyer and knew the system. She would have been found guilty and spent a year in jail. It's not like she could afford a decent lawyer.

Not true. If there is no custody order in place, then it is not parental abduction.

The judge granted primary custody to his wife, Cerina Fairfax, with visitation rights for Justin contingent upon passing Breathalyzer tests before and after seeing the children.

Which means that she could leave with kids and live with them separate and apart while divorce is pending. She had primary physical custody.

Fairfax had visitation rights. She had to keep in contact and make the children available. She couldn't deny him access.

Relocating to a rented apartment a 2 miles away does not equal denying access to the children. Many couples share children all the time. But I believe living separately (truly separately, not at the same house) would take an edge off and de-escalate any anger between the couples.

How do you all seem to not understand that the trigger for the murder was him being forced to move out? Like no, moving out was not going to de-escalate that homicidal situation.

I don’t think any of us know. But ending things sooner rather than later and separating households might have turned out better.

“Ending things” immediately preceded her murder, so there is no reasonable inference that ending things earlier would have led to a better outcome.

She filed for divorce in 2024. She did not need to wait until the court order him in 2026 to move out of the house, she should have done it as soon as she filed for divorce.

Wrong. She filed in June 2025 with a separation date of June 2024. She filed 1 year and 1 day after the date of separation. The entire process is arduous and lengthy, especially when one party is not cooperative and things are not amicable which was the case with Justin. So 10 months after she filed things were moving along but at a slow rate.

I believe they also took longer because of his prominence in Virginia government.

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Anonymous wrote:The word on the street is that Justin Fairfax’s funeral was yesterday. I did not attend but spoke with someone whose friend attended. I don’t think Cerina’s funeral has taken place yet.

I cannot imagine having or attending a funeral for this horrible soul.