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OK, I am smart, accomplished, great resume, 15 years experience in management. But I went to a state school and no grad school. I am applying to jobs in DC and LA. I am so frustrated because despite tons of connections and great DC experience, I cannot get any interviews in DC. Meanwhile from cold resumes I have gotten 3 interviews in LA. My friends with less impressive backgrounds, fewer years work experience but an Ivy League degree get every interview they send a resume in for. It makes me sick!
Anyone else hate DC for being so Ivy obsessed? Are you amused by how moronic some of these "brilliant" Ivy League types can be, and how they get all the good jobs anyway. And then proceed to hire only their ivy league buddies? I think it's one of the worst things about this town. |
| Yep. I got tired of it. Some state schools are nothing to sneeze at: Michigan, Berkeley, UCLA but they don't hold the cache of an ivy. |
| I don't think it's only DC but in highly competitive markets with loads of candidates to pick from. Kind of reminds me of internet companies that front as nonconformist rule breakers only to be run by conservative people from the same select schools. Such is life. There will always be the have and the have nots because the haves can't have without the have nots. |
| LA is a competitive market. I think it is an east coast thing. Fact of the matter is more folks from the east coast have Ivy League connections, this is where the schools are, this is where the legacies are, and this is largely where the alum are working. |
| People here are uglier so they have to rely on Ivies to get them to the next level. |
Yeah, I tend to agree with that, though over the past 10 years, it has improved. Though I think that evolution relies on the newer transplants from the other coast. |
Probably so. If you're good looking, you'll be noticed and taken care of. If you're fugly you need to take care of yourself. Don't a lot of beautiful people move to Miami or LA? |
Yes, I'm sure we've all heard the quote that "DC is the Hollywood of the Ugly...." I'm from NY and I'm always shocked by the Ivy thing down here. In DC, people have been out of school for decades and they still talk about their colleges when they meet new people. In NY, it's more about what you've done with yourself (made millions, look fantastic, have a wonderful family, and give a lot of money to charity). |
I think a lot of people in Miami & LA get "work done." While people in LA are more attractive, they're personalities are a bit more plastic-y, fake, superficial. So there is a trade-off. Even 20 years ago, there was a lot of cosmetic surgery among the regular people (not celebrities). I can't imagine now. I bet there's a lot of cosmetic surgery for kids too. Men got in on the act and got implants (pectorals, calves). It's a vain culture, LA is. Hated it. |
| I guess people swim in different circles, because I don't even know any Ivy people. I meet all kinds of interesting people in this city, from corporate types to artists to community activists to the people that make my sandwiches. I lived in OC and met many interesting people there too, but agree - lots of implants, bleach, botox and exotic cars galore. |
| Wow. The jealousy expressed here is pretty raw. Maybe it's not your lack of anIvy League degree. Maybe it's YOU. |
| OP, I couldn't agree more. I went to a top small liberal arts school but am constantly amazed by all the falling all over themselves that people do for Ivy Leaguers. I used to work for a company here in DC that only recruits from certain schools (I got in through a back door connection) - the ivies, Duke and Stanford. There many other companies that do the same. I once went to a job fair and the lady at the table of the company I was interested in was speaking to someone so she told me and another woman to leave our resumes and come back. When I came back I saw the other woman's resume on the desk, she had much less relevant experience, but her Harvard education was circled. Nothing on my resume was. My sense of the ivies, based on many people I know who went to them, is that the hardest part is getting in. Based on that, it's a farce to judge someone based on how they did in high school! |
| There is a valid and practical reason for prefering to hire from the Ivy League and other top schools. I agree, the jealousy on this post is ridiculously apparent. |
ha. spoken like a true Ivy Leaguer. |
Are you referring to Ocean City or Orange County? |