ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Peaceful protesting would have been standing on the sidewalk with a sign or chanting. She could have made her point and still would be alive.


Exactly. I found the women’s demeanor bizarre— like they were enjoying themselves and doing this as a lark.


Enjoying yourself is a capital offense now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Peaceful protesting would have been standing on the sidewalk with a sign or chanting. She could have made her point and still would be alive.


Exactly. I found the women’s demeanor bizarre— like they were enjoying themselves and doing this as a lark.


All of your attempts to demonize these women fall flat. Maybe they were trying to diffuse some psycho officers bearing down on them. Too bad the officer is a trigger happy murderer. He belongs in jail. Stop trying to justify this murder with nonsense.
Anonymous
Well, well, well.

What a fascinating article.

“US Border Agents Intentionally Stepped in Front of Moving Vehicles to Justify Shooting at Them

An internal review of the US Border Patrol raises serious questions about the agency’s use-of-force policy.”


https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/us-border-agents-intentionally-stepped-front-moving-vehicles-justify-shooting-them/

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Peaceful protesting would have been standing on the sidewalk with a sign or chanting. She could have made her point and still would be alive.


Exactly. I found the women’s demeanor bizarre— like they were enjoying themselves and doing this as a lark.


Enjoying yourself is a capital offense now.


MAGA are truly twisted and deplorable. Inhuman trolls and ogres who love cruelty and murder of fellow citizens. None of them belong in polite society with the rest of us. They are all crimes waiting to happen. Pent up anger and psychoses.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can somebody who shares the viewpoint and values of the woman and her wife answer this - how were they hoping that the interaction would end?


I'm sure they would have been okay with getting a ticket, maybe having to pay a fine. Maybe spend some time in jail. Those are the normal consequences for civil disobedience, not getting killed.


If the car had stayed in park, that’s probably all that would have happened.


Not with the way the first agent reached inside her door. There was no guarantee of their safety.


But obviously everyone’s safety was not their goal, or they would never have been there at all. How did the women want it to end?


The wife told to look up their address, presumably to come to their house and arrest them. So maybe that's what she had in mind. Not getting shot in the head.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Peaceful protesting would have been standing on the sidewalk with a sign or chanting. She could have made her point and still would be alive.


Exactly. I found the women’s demeanor bizarre— like they were enjoying themselves and doing this as a lark.


Renee was in the car - peaceful protesting by parking. Her wife had a thermos of coffee in her hand and very likely was standing near the sidewalk with the other moms I saw there.

Why are you arguing about this irrelevant point? No matter WHAT the women were doing, they weren't a threat to anyone's safety.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can somebody who shares the viewpoint and values of the woman and her wife answer this - how were they hoping that the interaction would end?


I'm sure they would have been okay with getting a ticket, maybe having to pay a fine. Maybe spend some time in jail. Those are the normal consequences for civil disobedience, not getting killed.


If the car had stayed in park, that’s probably all that would have happened.


Not with the way the first agent reached inside her door. There was no guarantee of their safety.


But obviously everyone’s safety was not their goal, or they would never have been there at all. How did the women want it to end?


No. It was a peaceful protest. No one was the tiniest bit unsafe, until ICE stumbled by.


She hit the officer with her car. Not exactly peaceful.


No. It was a peaceful protest and no violence was planned or carried out.
Even if she did hit the officer, which I doubt, he was in the wrong for walking in front of her car. She was clearly turning her wheels to drive away.
Driving away from the men who were yelling at her and grabbing her car. That wasn't part of the protest.
Stop arguing about this. There was no justification for shooting her.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can somebody who shares the viewpoint and values of the woman and her wife answer this - how were they hoping that the interaction would end?


I'm sure they would have been okay with getting a ticket, maybe having to pay a fine. Maybe spend some time in jail. Those are the normal consequences for civil disobedience, not getting killed.


If the car had stayed in park, that’s probably all that would have happened.


And not taunting ICE and yelling at them. Not my idea of a peaceful protest.


The lesson is that if you hurt precious ma feeling you get executed.

That’s second degree involuntary tmanslaughter, at least


Each to his own. Not everyone desires and appreciates noisy, intrusive protests in their neighborhoods. I work in a school comprised of 80% Hispanic families with respectful, hardworking kids. parents are here legally and mostly live in nearby apts. No one is bothering them.


No one is bothering them. ... yet.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?


Would you tell your son to force his way into a woman's car, and call her a 'f*****g b***h'?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can somebody who shares the viewpoint and values of the woman and her wife answer this - how were they hoping that the interaction would end?


I'm sure they would have been okay with getting a ticket, maybe having to pay a fine. Maybe spend some time in jail. Those are the normal consequences for civil disobedience, not getting killed.


If the car had stayed in park, that’s probably all that would have happened.


And not taunting ICE and yelling at them. Not my idea of a peaceful protest.


The lesson is that if you hurt precious ma feeling you get executed.

That’s second degree involuntary tmanslaughter, at least


The audio of "F*****g B****" is chilling. What a cold voice. He wasn't scared at all, just contemptuous.


What did she want him to call her? She went there with the purpose to provoke and she succeeded. Rest in peace.


That depends. Are you arguing that ICE is a legitimate law enforcement agency? Or are you arguing that they are unregulated thugs?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I noticed that the right has now latched on to the idea that white liberal women are evil and will be the downfall of society. I guess bc white liberal women are the most visible in terms of protesters. But the language is just depressing. Like how dare they speak up and make such a fuss. That along with Latino and black right wing influencers-wanna-be saying the Democratic Party hates people of color and Good should have just behaved. Like yo. Is this real life?


Speaking up is great. I will defend your right to do so. Attempting to block an active police investigation with your car, disobeying lawful commands, and nearly running over an officer is not so great.


It wasn’t a police investigation, it was some ICE vehicles driving down the street and they had plenty of room to get around her vehicle as the whole country saw the agent who eventually killed her did so with his vehicle.

They didn’t give her any lawful commands because they have NO JURISDICTION to be enforcing traffic laws in Minneapolis streets and neither the victim nor the wife are/were undocumented alien targets of ICE.

The ICE officer is mandated by his training and the regulations of his agency to NEVER PUT HIS BODY IN FRONT OF A VEHICLE - but he did just that, and any small danger that created was entirely of his own making and negates any assertion of justified use of force.

Those are the facts and the law as any reasonable law enforcement officer of any political persuasion can attest - such as myself, such as the dozens of current and former LEOs providing the same analysis on various media which I have just provided to you.

You might suckle at the Ministry of Truth’s teat, but you can’t force the rest of us to do so. We trust our eyes and our ears over the lies spewed by the fascist regime.

Have a nice evening, bootlicker.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?


That's not what they were doing.


Here's what they were doing: They were engaging in performance theater, hence the filming of themselves. They were behaving in a way intended to provoke a confrontation. While the death of one of the pair was likely an unintended consequence, it was also the result of foolish choices, self-aggrandizing behavior, and a wanton disregard for the risks they posed to themselves and to others by trying to attract law enforcement attention and then trying to evade it in what can be a deadly weapon when operated recklessly and in contravention of law enforcement instructions. Tragic, but self-inflicted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can somebody who shares the viewpoint and values of the woman and her wife answer this - how were they hoping that the interaction would end?


I'm sure they would have been okay with getting a ticket, maybe having to pay a fine. Maybe spend some time in jail. Those are the normal consequences for civil disobedience, not getting killed.


If the car had stayed in park, that’s probably all that would have happened.


Not with the way the first agent reached inside her door. There was no guarantee of their safety.


But obviously everyone’s safety was not their goal, or they would never have been there at all. How did the women want it to end?


No. It was a peaceful protest. No one was the tiniest bit unsafe, until ICE stumbled by.


She hit the officer with her car. Not exactly peaceful.


No. It was a peaceful protest and no violence was planned or carried out.
Even if she did hit the officer, which I doubt, he was in the wrong for walking in front of her car. She was clearly turning her wheels to drive away.
Driving away from the men who were yelling at her and grabbing her car. That wasn't part of the protest.
Stop arguing about this. There was no justification for shooting her.


They are going to believe what they want, we can’t control that. We have to let go and wait for proper independent investigation to be done and court to decide.
I’ll be buying a whistle to blow if I see ice near my home or anywhere else. And I’ll hide or run. We have all learned - ICE are criminals.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?


Would you tell your son to force his way into a woman's car, and call her a 'f*****g b***h'?


After remember, he called her a f*** b*** after he shot her in the face three times. I think not.

She dropped her kid off at school at 9am and it was around 9:30am when she was shot in her own neighborhood.

It sounds like the DC police messed up by not shooting every single J6 Capitol invader, because a whole bunch of Republicans now don't believe in "don't tread on me" anymore.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just finished reading an article on the ICE agent’s background. He was based in Minneapolis, so not someone unfamiliar with the area or the cultural values.

He was also highly trained, which makes it even more curious that he had such little impulse control and lacked discipline in the field. From the article:

Ross said he has served as a deportation officer based in Minnesota since he joined ICE in 2015. He is assigned to fugitive operations, seeking to arrest “higher value targets” in the ICE region that includes Minneapolis, he testified last month. He said that he was also a team leader with the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force.

“So I develop the targets, create a target package, surveillance, and then develop a plan to execute the arrest warrant,” he said.

Ross said that he was also a firearms instructor, an active shooter instructor, a field intelligence officer and member of the SWAT team. He said that he attended the Border Patrol’s academy in New Mexico, where he learned to speak Spanish.

https://www.wbur.org/news/2026/01/09/johnathan-ross-ice-killing-renee-good-minneapolis-background


And just ruined the rest of his life.
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