Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are we speaking about Navy besides the prospect of its attendance island moving to the new high school.

Part of Franklin Farm east of the Fairfax County Parkway is zoned for it, with the rest zoned for Crossfield.

That section feeds to Oakton High School

West of the parkway is the Chantilly feeding part of Franklin Farm, zoned for Oak Hill.

Many parents in Franklin Farm want it unified under the new high school, but I understand Fox Mill wants to move too.

On the website, it says it will house 2000+ students, with Option C calling to move 2,142 students, not accounting the 20 in discovery square.

After interior modifictions are done, 6 feeder elementary schools may serve the High School.

Most of you are not listening to that.

And plus, if they don't have room for that many students, the South Lakes part of Crossfield, already zoned for Hughes and South Lakes, may still remain that way unless a work around is completed inside the building, and parking spots are added.

Yes, this is a good question - WHY are Navy families so concerned about this? It's really bizarre.

Maybe, it is the Navy Island? Pretty sure if Crossfield goes to the new school, it will, as well.

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Re: Oak Hill and transportation - in one of the meetings they said if you are in boundary (my neighborhood is in boundary in all scenarios so I was paying attention to this) then you can choose your base school and they will provide transportation but you must commit to that base school for 4 years. Who knows if they reverse that next week.

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Anonymous wrote:Fyi- at the Chantilly meeting tonight, Reid basically said none of these scenarios were vetted, are not actual scenarios, and they were basically just therr to give people some ideas. They are working on a more serious 5th scenario currently.

Someone on the other thread said that Reid was "bamboozled" by a group at the meeting. Does she actually express an opinion? Seems kind of foolish on her part.

That was me. I forgot the exact phrasing but a lot of time was spent discussing it as they had two people speak at different times. Sbe seemed very sympathetic to them and by the end of it all, she said it was unlikely that neighborhood would be moved in the final scenario.

Which neighborhood was it? Crossfield or the Navy cut out?

The navy cutout should be moved. They say they want community, but all of that neighborhood should go to the same elementary and high school. Should be crossfield and Western. It is the most logical and much shorter commute to school. Makes no sense for Oakton, it's not anywhere near and their reason is illogical.

Believe me there are people in the Navy cutout who would be fine with this, but the loud voices against it are trying to claim they represent everyone.

Someone on the other thread suggested calling school board members (especially those sympathetic to those of us with long bus rides - McDaniel and Frisch - and telling them you don't feel comfortable speaking out because you don't want to be bullied by the vocal families that are active in the school, but you and many of your neighbors (if this is true) strongly feel like you should go to Western.

+1

Also, it helps if you tell why--not just that it is closer, but why it is important to you for it to be closer.

I understand people with older children feeling that way--but, I think, for many reasons, that the Western High school is a much better option.
When you have kids in high school, you want them to be involved in activities. And, there is not always a late bus. Getting to Oakton any time of day is a challenge to pick up kids, etc.

+1. I'll add that they are lucky they didn't get redistricted to South Lakes. Imagine the uproar.

What a crass comment.

Ok it's the crass truth then.

+1 It's a crass and sad truth. SLHS parent here with friends all over the county. They would lose their minds. They can't handle the black, Hispanic, and middle eastern kids that make that school population more diverse than the white and Asian that Oakton or the Western High School would have.

Slakes parent here. That’s one of the things we love about South Lakes. My kids are exposed to so many different types of cultures and socioeconomic levels. It’s given them an awareness to check their privilege and become compassionate citizens. They know not everyone lives in quarter-acre SFH like Fox Mill Woods or Franklin Farm. YMMV but I’m so grateful for the Slakes community.

SLHS loves diversity and loves SLHS community.

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And plus, if they don't have room for that many students, the South Lakes part of Crossfield, already zoned for Hughes and South Lakes, may still remain that way unless a work around is completed inside the building, and parking spots are added.

Pretty sure the plan is to keep those Fox Mill Woods (Crossfield) kids at Hughes/South Lakes.
In 2008 redistricting. Fox Mill Woods parents requested to be assigned to South Lakes. (Not all Fox Mill Woods parents, but several.) They consider themselves Reston and wanted the Reston school.
Initially, Stu Gibson (Hunter Mill SB at that time) wanted ALL Reston kids--to include Armstrong and Aldrin--to be at South Lakes.

Armstrong and Aldrin would have resulted in South Lakes becoming a 2800+ student high school in this day.

But I do agree with trying to align zip codes.

Note I agree, and don’t stand for.

I think the "plan" as I recall--which was designed by SL PTA moms--was to get Aldrin and Armstrong rather than Fox Mill and Floris, but I'm not positive. Their solution to Herndon being depleted by Aldrin and Armstrong was to send McNair (I don't remember if Coates was built yet.)
This was a doozy of a boundary study. Stu and South Lakes PTA totally ran the show. The PTA even had the plans on their website until it was discovered by Fairfax Underground.

Well clearly nothing has changed since then.

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And plus, if they don't have room for that many students, the South Lakes part of Crossfield, already zoned for Hughes and South Lakes, may still remain that way unless a work around is completed inside the building, and parking spots are added.

Pretty sure the plan is to keep those Fox Mill Woods (Crossfield) kids at Hughes/South Lakes.
In 2008 redistricting. Fox Mill Woods parents requested to be assigned to South Lakes. (Not all Fox Mill Woods parents, but several.) They consider themselves Reston and wanted the Reston school.
Initially, Stu Gibson (Hunter Mill SB at that time) wanted ALL Reston kids--to include Armstrong and Aldrin--to be at South Lakes.

Armstrong and Aldrin would have resulted in South Lakes becoming a 2800+ student high school in this day.

But I do agree with trying to align zip codes.

Note I agree, and don’t stand for.

I think the "plan" as I recall--which was designed by SL PTA moms--was to get Aldrin and Armstrong rather than Fox Mill and Floris, but I'm not positive. Their solution to Herndon being depleted by Aldrin and Armstrong was to send McNair (I don't remember if Coates was built yet.)
This was a doozy of a boundary study. Stu and South Lakes PTA totally ran the show. The PTA even had the plans on their website until it was discovered by Fairfax Underground.

The South Lakes boundary adjustments were approved in February 2008. Coates (then referred to as "Coppermine") was just starting construction and not part of that boundary study. It was part of a separate boundary study commenced in the fall of 2008. Floris, Herndon, Hutchison, McNair, and Oak Hill Elementary Schools were the schools within the scope of that boundary study. The boundaries were established in February 2009 by a unanimous School Board vote. Coates opened in the fall of 2009.

The February 2009 changes: (1) reassigned students from McNair to Herndon, Hutchison, and Coates; (2) reassigned students from Floris to Oak Hill and Coates; and (3) reassigned AAP students within Coates, Floris and McNair from the Oak Hill AAP center to McNair.

The February 2008 South Lakes boundary was highly controversial; the fall 2008 Coppermine study was not.

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And plus, if they don't have room for that many students, the South Lakes part of Crossfield, already zoned for Hughes and South Lakes, may still remain that way unless a work around is completed inside the building, and parking spots are added.

Pretty sure the plan is to keep those Fox Mill Woods (Crossfield) kids at Hughes/South Lakes.
In 2008 redistricting. Fox Mill Woods parents requested to be assigned to South Lakes. (Not all Fox Mill Woods parents, but several.) They consider themselves Reston and wanted the Reston school.
Initially, Stu Gibson (Hunter Mill SB at that time) wanted ALL Reston kids--to include Armstrong and Aldrin--to be at South Lakes.

Armstrong and Aldrin would have resulted in South Lakes becoming a 2800+ student high school in this day.

But I do agree with trying to align zip codes.

Note I agree, and don’t stand for.

I think the "plan" as I recall--which was designed by SL PTA moms--was to get Aldrin and Armstrong rather than Fox Mill and Floris, but I'm not positive. Their solution to Herndon being depleted by Aldrin and Armstrong was to send McNair (I don't remember if Coates was built yet.)
This was a doozy of a boundary study. Stu and South Lakes PTA totally ran the show. The PTA even had the plans on their website until it was discovered by Fairfax Underground.

Well clearly nothing has changed since then.

That's not quite true... While the boundaries have stayed the same, during the redistricting, Herndon HS PTA moms wanted nothing to do with SL. Rather than Reston Schools for Reston Students, they insisted on keeping the Astronauts at Herndon for Herndon's "Perfect Demographics"... Well... Herndon's demographics aren't quite so perfect anymore, so the Astronauts pupil place to South Lakes "for IB"...

[Anonymous]

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And plus, if they don't have room for that many students, the South Lakes part of Crossfield, already zoned for Hughes and South Lakes, may still remain that way unless a work around is completed inside the building, and parking spots are added.

Pretty sure the plan is to keep those Fox Mill Woods (Crossfield) kids at Hughes/South Lakes.
In 2008 redistricting. Fox Mill Woods parents requested to be assigned to South Lakes. (Not all Fox Mill Woods parents, but several.) They consider themselves Reston and wanted the Reston school.
Initially, Stu Gibson (Hunter Mill SB at that time) wanted ALL Reston kids--to include Armstrong and Aldrin--to be at South Lakes.

Armstrong and Aldrin would have resulted in South Lakes becoming a 2800+ student high school in this day.

But I do agree with trying to align zip codes.

Note I agree, and don’t stand for.

I think the "plan" as I recall--which was designed by SL PTA moms--was to get Aldrin and Armstrong rather than Fox Mill and Floris, but I'm not positive. Their solution to Herndon being depleted by Aldrin and Armstrong was to send McNair (I don't remember if Coates was built yet.)
This was a doozy of a boundary study. Stu and South Lakes PTA totally ran the show. The PTA even had the plans on their website until it was discovered by Fairfax Underground.

The South Lakes boundary adjustments were approved in February 2008. Coates (then referred to as "Coppermine") was just starting construction and not part of that boundary study. It was part of a separate boundary study commenced in the fall of 2008. Floris, Herndon, Hutchison, McNair, and Oak Hill Elementary Schools were the schools within the scope of that boundary study. The boundaries were established in February 2009 by a unanimous School Board vote. Coates opened in the fall of 2009.

The February 2009 changes: (1) reassigned students from McNair to Herndon, Hutchison, and Coates; (2) reassigned students from Floris to Oak Hill and Coates; and (3) reassigned AAP students within Coates, Floris and McNair from the Oak Hill AAP center to McNair.

The February 2008 South Lakes boundary was highly controversial; the fall 2008 Coppermine study was not.

Floris wasn't thrilled about the AAP reassignment but had an out. Floris had one of the earliest LLIV classes in FCPS and a number of Floris County-select AAP kids were already staying rather than attending Oak Hill.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And plus, if they don't have room for that many students, the South Lakes part of Crossfield, already zoned for Hughes and South Lakes, may still remain that way unless a work around is completed inside the building, and parking spots are added.

Pretty sure the plan is to keep those Fox Mill Woods (Crossfield) kids at Hughes/South Lakes.
In 2008 redistricting. Fox Mill Woods parents requested to be assigned to South Lakes. (Not all Fox Mill Woods parents, but several.) They consider themselves Reston and wanted the Reston school.
Initially, Stu Gibson (Hunter Mill SB at that time) wanted ALL Reston kids--to include Armstrong and Aldrin--to be at South Lakes.

Armstrong and Aldrin would have resulted in South Lakes becoming a 2800+ student high school in this day.

But I do agree with trying to align zip codes.

Note I agree, and don’t stand for.

I think the "plan" as I recall--which was designed by SL PTA moms--was to get Aldrin and Armstrong rather than Fox Mill and Floris, but I'm not positive. Their solution to Herndon being depleted by Aldrin and Armstrong was to send McNair (I don't remember if Coates was built yet.)
This was a doozy of a boundary study. Stu and South Lakes PTA totally ran the show. The PTA even had the plans on their website until it was discovered by Fairfax Underground.

Well clearly nothing has changed since then.

That's not quite true... While the boundaries have stayed the same, during the redistricting, Herndon HS PTA moms wanted nothing to do with SL. Rather than Reston Schools for Reston Students, they insisted on keeping the Astronauts at Herndon for Herndon's "Perfect Demographics"... Well... Herndon's demographics aren't quite so perfect anymore, so the Astronauts pupil place to South Lakes "for IB"...

Oh, I thought there were literal astronauts and not the elementary schools named for 2

[Anonymous]

Merry Christmas, y’all!

I can't believe we still have six more months to fight about the boundary.

[Anonymous]

Let me point something out that I have noticed.

We have been looking at the maps wrong, but also, FCPS has not been providing clear figures as to who moves where.

Starting with the fact that 362 students from Centreville High School move to Westfield.

Another something from Chantilly moves to Westfield, don’t know the amount though.

Then, another number of students from the Oak Hill Area, possibly 300-400 something, but less than that of the move from the Crossfield to Oakton move, which is 436 in all options except Option D.

Option B moves 370 students from South Lakes to Western, with option C moving 408 out of South Lakes to the new Western.

Based on the maps, the most amount of students move out of Westfield to Western where between 940 and 1005 students move.

Options A and B move the 65 students from discovery to Westfield, but option C does not.

At the bottom where it says the number of students moving to Western High School, I don’t know whether that is produced from the sum of out column or the sum of the net column in the boundary options chart.

The maps are clearer than the numbers, and in typical rezoning schemes for the opening of a new school, close to exact estimate numbers are given saying what moves to the new school, and then who moves to existing schools.

If they said 362 Centreville to Westfield, X Westfield to Western, X Chantilly to Western, X Chantilly to Westfield, the maps would have been easier to interpret.

FCPS most likely made these maps unclear to interpret because Michelle Reid is holding onto hope she can get her Aerospace Academy, when capacity relief is desperately needed at Chantilly, Centreville, Westfield will need it in the future, possibly Oakton, and possibly South Lakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let me point something out that I have noticed.

We have been looking at the maps wrong, but also, FCPS has not been providing clear figures as to who moves where.

Starting with the fact that 362 students from Centreville High School move to Westfield.

Another something from Chantilly moves to Westfield, don’t know the amount though.

Then, another number of students from the Oak Hill Area, possibly 300-400 something, but less than that of the move from the Crossfield to Oakton move, which is 436 in all options except Option D.

Option B moves 370 students from South Lakes to Western, with option C moving 408 out of South Lakes to the new Western.

Based on the maps, the most amount of students move out of Westfield to Western where between 940 and 1005 students move.

Options A and B move the 65 students from discovery to Westfield, but option C does not.

At the bottom where it says the number of students moving to Western High School, I don’t know whether that is produced from the sum of out column or the sum of the net column in the boundary options chart.

The maps are clearer than the numbers, and in typical rezoning schemes for the opening of a new school, close to exact estimate numbers are given saying what moves to the new school, and then who moves to existing schools.

If they said 362 Centreville to Westfield, X Westfield to Western, X Chantilly to Western, X Chantilly to Westfield, the maps would have been easier to interpret.

FCPS most likely made these maps unclear to interpret because Michelle Reid is holding onto hope she can get her Aerospace Academy, when capacity relief is desperately needed at Chantilly, Centreville, Westfield will need it in the future, possibly Oakton, and possibly South Lakes.

Sounds like it was just you who was looking at the maps wrong.

But, yes, they could be clearer. The other maps prepared during the county-wide review were just as bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let me point something out that I have noticed.

We have been looking at the maps wrong, but also, FCPS has not been providing clear figures as to who moves where.

Starting with the fact that 362 students from Centreville High School move to Westfield.

Another something from Chantilly moves to Westfield, don’t know the amount though.

Then, another number of students from the Oak Hill Area, possibly 300-400 something, but less than that of the move from the Crossfield to Oakton move, which is 436 in all options except Option D.

Option B moves 370 students from South Lakes to Western, with option C moving 408 out of South Lakes to the new Western.

Based on the maps, the most amount of students move out of Westfield to Western where between 940 and 1005 students move.

Options A and B move the 65 students from discovery to Westfield, but option C does not.

At the bottom where it says the number of students moving to Western High School, I don’t know whether that is produced from the sum of out column or the sum of the net column in the boundary options chart.

The maps are clearer than the numbers, and in typical rezoning schemes for the opening of a new school, close to exact estimate numbers are given saying what moves to the new school, and then who moves to existing schools.

If they said 362 Centreville to Westfield, X Westfield to Western, X Chantilly to Western, X Chantilly to Westfield, the maps would have been easier to interpret.

FCPS most likely made these maps unclear to interpret because Michelle Reid is holding onto hope she can get her Aerospace Academy, when capacity relief is desperately needed at Chantilly, Centreville, Westfield will need it in the future, possibly Oakton, and possibly South Lakes.

Sounds like it was just you who was looking at the maps wrong.

But, yes, they could be clearer. The other maps prepared during the county-wide review were just as bad.

PP made such a valid point though.

How dare you insult them before validating their point Tina Burnette.

[Anonymous]

How many kids are opting in?

I heard many Centreville families are interested in Western high.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How many kids are opting in?

I heard many Centreville families are interested in Western high.

Then they’ll be driving their kids there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many kids are opting in?

I heard many Centreville families are interested in Western high.

Then they’ll be driving their kids there.

Of course, they are aware of it.

But Western High is perceived as better than Westfield and Centreville. Many Asian families in the Centreville area and it appears they favor a technology focused education.