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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.
I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.
Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.
I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.
I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.
If you had an 18 year old boy he would have heard of him. My college freshman said the killing was all his team talked about at practice yesterday. The team is a mix of conservative and liberal kids and opinions on Kirk ranged from adoration to disgust. He said they had a respectful discussion, which gave me great hope.
I'm struggling with adoration of hate and why people who were the targets of Kirk's hate need to be respectful.
Unlike you, there was no hate demonstrated by Kirk. He was respectful and accepting of all kinds of people. Watch some of his interviews and debates. You may not agree with him, but he was never hateful.
Then why is it so easy to find his hateful quotes?
“Gay people should be stoned to death.”
Verdict: True (in context). Kirk publicly endorsed a biblical call to execute gay people. On his June 2024 podcast, while criticising a children’s YouTuber’s pro-LGBTQ message, Kirk quoted Leviticus: “lay with another man and be stoned to death,” calling it “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters”. In context, he cited the Old Testament punishment for homosexuality approvingly. (Bollinger, 2024). Kirk did add that he was “not calling for it literally now,” but he emphasised that this biblical mandate was “God’s perfect law”, effectively legitimising the sentiment.
“Most people are scared when they see a Black pilot flying a plane.”
Verdict: True (paraphrase). Kirk expressed this racist sentiment on The Charlie Kirk Show (Jan. 23, 2024). “If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified,” he said, implying that a Black pilot likely got the job through affirmative action and thus is less competent. This comment, which Kirk made while discussing race and “diversity hires,” suggests fear or distrust of Black professionals. The Guardian confirms Kirk’s quote and notes it was delivered on his show in early 2024 (Stein & Anguiano, 2025).
“Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband.”
Verdict: True. In August 2025, reacting to pop star Taylor Swift’s engagement, Kirk explicitly urged her to embrace a submissive wife’s role. On his Aug. 26, 2025 podcast, he addressed Swift: “Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.” He argued that marrying NFL player Travis Kelce and having children would “deradicalise” Swift’s liberal views. Kirk literally said, “Submit to your husband, Taylor… you’re not in charge,” encouraging her to abandon feminist independence. (Media Matters Staff, 2025). This provides full context: Kirk believes women (even a superstar) should be dutiful wives under their husbands’ authority.
“No one should be allowed to retire.”
Verdict: Mostly True (close paraphrase).Kirk didn’t use those exact words, but he strongly argued against retirement. On Sept. 19, 2023, he told his radio audience: “I’m not a fan of retirement. I don’t think retirement is biblical.” He challenged “the idea of retirement altogether,” saying older people should keep working, volunteering, or helping family instead of “just watch TV and golf”. He advocated raising the retirement age and implied society wastes seniors’ talents by letting them stop working. Essentially, Kirk’s view was that people should notsimply retire in the traditional sense, which aligns with the statement. (Media Matters Staff, 2023). While he didn’t literally call for a law forbidding retirement, he clearly preached that retirement is undesirable and un-Christian.
“British Colonialism was what ‘made the world decent’.”
Verdict: True. Kirk praised the British Empire in those terms. In a Sept. 9, 2022 episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, he introduced a guest by saying “British colonialism actually made the world decent.” He credited British rule with spreading “separation of powers, habeas corpus, freedom of speech, individual property rights… the dignity of the individual” globally. Kirk asserted that “certain cultures are better than others” and called the British Empire “the most benign global empire ever.” This quote is directly from Kirk’s own broadcast (Media Matters Staff, 2022), and he clearly endorsed the view that British colonialism “civilized” the world.
“The guy who assaulted the Pelosis should be bailed out.”
Verdict: True. Kirk said this on Oct. 31, 2022, referring to the brutal attacker of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband. On his podcast, he asked, “Why is he still in jail? Why has he not been bailed out?”and even urged, “If some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco… wants to be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out.” Kirk speculated the suspect’s bail might be “30 or 40,000 bucks” and encouraged freeing him to “ask him some questions”. Importantly, Kirk did preface that statement by calling the hammer attack “awful” and saying “I’m not qualifying it, I think it’s awful. It’s not right.” However, he immediately contrasted the strict jailing of Pelosi’s attacker with lenient bail policies elsewhere, implying a double standard. The quote is verified by Snopes with an audio clip from Kirk’s show (Ibrahim, 2025). In sum, Kirk did call for a “patriot” to bail out Paul Pelosi’s assailant, even as he acknowledged the crime’s severity.
“Multiple Black politicians ‘stole white people’s spots’.”
Verdict: True (essentially). Kirk did claim that prominent Black public figures attained their positions through affirmative action at the expense of more deserving whites. On July 13, 2023, he ranted that Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, and others were “affirmative action picks.” Kirk said these Black women “do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously,” and “You had to go steal a white person’s slot to… be taken somewhat seriously.”. This quote from The Charlie Kirk Show explicitly uses the phrasing “steal a white person’s slot”. In context, Kirk was gloating that after affirmative action was struck down, these women’s successes could be framed as unearned. The statement in question encapsulates Kirk’s view that multiple Black leaders occupied positions “meant for” whites. So yes, he said essentially that. (Stein & Anguiano, 2025; Common Dreams, 2025).
“MLK Jr was ‘an awful person’.”
Verdict: True. Kirk repeatedly disparaged Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. In December 2023 at Turning Point’s AmericaFest conference, Kirk declared, “MLK was awful. He’s not a good person.” He claimed King “said one good thing he actually didn’t believe” and indicated conservatives should stop holding King in esteem. Earlier, in 2022, he had called King a “civil rights icon” in passing, but by 2023 Kirk pivoted to attacking King’s legacy. Wired magazine first reported Kirk’s quote “We made a hero out of a very flawed man… MLK was awful” from that event. Furthermore, Kirk launched a campaign to “discredit” King, planning a special on King’s birthday to “tell the truth” about him. So, Kirk did call Martin Luther King Jr. an “awful” person (direct quote) and “not…good,” publicly, as documented by multiple sources (Turton, 2024).
“The Great Replacement Theory is reality.”
Verdict: True. Kirk explicitly promoted the Nazi “Great Replacement” conspiracy as fact. He argued that elites are deliberately replacing white Americans via immigration. For example, on Mar. 1, 2024, Kirk said on his show: “The great replacement strategy, which is well underway… is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different.” He frequently warned that Democrats “love it when America becomes less white”. Media Matters notes Kirk was “a promoter of the racist ‘great replacement’ theory,” even accusing a Black congresswoman of trying “to eliminate the white population in this country”. In short, Kirk treated “replacement” not as a fringe theory but as “happening every single day at our southern border.” Thus the statement is accurate – Kirk embraced Great Replacement rhetoric as reality, not mere theory (The Guardian, 2025).
“Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID.”
Verdict: True (as a claim Kirk made, though it’s false medically). Kirk spread this misinformation early in the pandemic. In March 2020, he tweeted that the drug hydroxychloroquine was “100% effective”against COVID-19. He alleged Democratic officials were hiding this “cure.” As a result, Twitter temporarily suspended Kirk’s account for misinformation. News reports confirm that Kirk “said that hydroxychloroquine was ‘100% effective in treating the virus, which it is not’,” leading to a ban in March 2020 (Risen, 2025). In other forums, Kirk touted unproven treatments and accused people like Governor Gretchen Whitmer of suppressing HCQ’s use. There is no doubtKirk claimed hydroxychloroquine cured COVID – a claim rated false by medical experts. (He was one of several Trump allies amplifying that unfounded cure in 2020.)
“Vaccine requirements are ‘medical apartheid’.”
Verdict: True. Kirk did use that phrase to denounce COVID-19 vaccine mandates. In a July 2021 segment on Fox News, and on his own show, he argued that forcing vaccines creates a two-tier society. He stated that making college students get the COVID shot was “medical apartheid”– likening it to segregation by medical status. For instance, on Tucker Carlson Tonight he said: vaccine mandates for students amount to “medical apartheid”(Kirk’s exact words). He frequently urged his followers to resist vaccine rules, and characterised vaccinated vs. unvaccinated policies as akin to apartheid-era discrimination (Wikipedia, 2023; Kirk, 2021). Thus, the quote is accurate: Kirk explicitly called vaccine requirements “a form of medical apartheid.”
“Gun deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd Amendment.”
Verdict: True. Kirk said essentially this, albeit in his own wording. At an April 2023 TPUSA Faith event, Kirk argued that the right to bear arms is worth some level of gun violence. “I think it’s worth having a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights,” he stated. He called this trade-off “a prudent deal” and “rational.” Media Matters captured him saying “it’s worth it to have…some gun deaths…so that we can have the Second Amendment.” In short, Kirk explicitly acknowledged that a number of deaths by guns each year is an acceptable price for maintaining 2A liberties. This matches the statement closely (framed as “acceptable loss” for freedom). (Daily Kos, 2025; The Guardian, 2025)
“Women’s natural place is under their husband’s control.”
Verdict: True (in substance). Kirk has repeatedly asserted that women should submit to male authority in marriage. The clearest example is his message to Taylor Swift in 2025: “Submit to your husband…You’re not in charge.” He explicitly told her to reject feminism and embrace being a submissive wife. More generally, Kirk often invokes biblical gender roles. He has said all women should be homemakers under a husband’s leadership – for instance, praising the “MRS degree” (i.e. women going to college mainly to find a husband) and criticising women who prioritise careers into their 30s. According to The Guardian, Kirk’s stance was literally: “Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.” (Stein & Anguiano, 2025). While he framed it around Taylor Swift, the context makes clear he sees a woman’s proper place as beneath her husband’s authority. Thus, the statement is an accurate summary of Kirk’s openly stated view on women’s “natural” role.
“Parents should prevent their daughters from taking birth control.”
Verdict: Mostly True. Kirk didn’t use those exact words, but he strongly opposes young women using contraception and effectively urges against it. In August 2024, Kirk launched into a tirade blaming the birth control pill for “ruining” women. He claimed hormonal birth control “really screws up female brains” and “creates very angry and bitter young ladies”. He argued that the sexual revolution and readily available contraception made women miserable and unmarriageable. Kirk even suggested that “we told young ladies to sleep around” and that birth control leads them to be “30, single, and physically infertile”, which he called a tragic outcome (comments from his Turning Point Faith event, 2024). While we didn’t find a direct quote “parents must stop daughters from using it,” Kirk’s message is explicitly hostile to birth control for unmarried women. He has encouraged parents to raise daughters to value early marriage and childbearing instead of contraception and career. For example, he lauded mothers who advise daughters not to delay family life. In summary, Kirk has stated that birth control is harmful and implied parents should discourage it. This statement is essentially a paraphrase of his position (Valdes, 2024 via Yahoo News).
“The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a ‘huge mistake’.”
Verdict: True. Kirk explicitly said this, attacking the landmark civil rights law. Speaking at TPUSA’s AmericaFest in Dec. 2023, Kirk prefaced, “I have a very radical view on this… We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s.” This quote is verified by Wiredreporter William Turton, who attended the event and provided audio confirming Kirk’s words (Turton, 2024). Kirk’s rationale was that the Civil Rights Act led to “a permanent DEI bureaucracy” and eroded First Amendment rights. He argued in later shows that the Act “created a beast… turned into an anti-white weapon.” Snopes also fact-checked this and rated it true, noting Kirk confirmed on tape that he called the Civil Rights Act a mistake (Loe, 2025). Therefore, yes – Kirk openly said passing that Act was a “huge mistake.”
“Mamdani winning in NY is a travesty because Muslims did 9/11.”
Verdict: True (actual quote). In 2025, after a Muslim candidate’s election victory in New York City, Kirk made an Islamophobic remark linking it to 9/11. Specifically, when Zohran Mamdani – a Muslim socialist – won a Democratic primary in NYC, Kirk vented on Twitter: “Twenty-four years ago a group of Muslims killed 2,753 people on 9/11… Now a Muslim Socialist is on pace to run New York City.”. This tweet explicitly connects Mamdani’s rise to the 9/11 attacks, implying it’s an insult to the victims. A contemporaneous report from The Independent and 5Pillars (a Muslim news outlet) confirms Kirk’s tweet in July 2025 and quotes it verbatim. Kirk clearly framed Mamdani’s win as ominous, invoking 9/11. So yes, Kirk essentially suggested it’s a travesty that a Muslim could lead in NYC, given what “Muslims” did on 9/11. (5Pillars, 2025).
“Muslims only come to America to destabilise Western civilisation.”
Verdict: True (matches his statements).Kirk repeatedly portrayed Muslim immigration as a hostile invasion. For example, in April 2025 he claimed on his show: “Large dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America.” He argued “Islam is not compatible with Western civilisation.” In one rant, Kirk said it’s “not Islamophobia to notice that Muslims want to import values into the West that seek to destabilise our civilisation.” (This was Kirk’s own post defending his stance.) He also wrote that “Muslims are commanded to take over the government in the land they live.” These quotes substantiate that Kirk cast Muslims in America as a fifth column aiming to undermine society. The statement in question is basically a summary of Kirk’s view that Muslim immigrants don’t come to assimilate but to subvert. Indeed, Kirk directly said Muslims bring “values” to weaken Western civilisation. Thus, this is confirmed – albeit in Kirk’s words about “importing values” and being “incompatible” rather than a literal one-sentence quote. (5Pillars, 2025; Kirk, 2025).
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