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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:BTW the posts suggesting that the housekeeper tipped off someone /MS-13 are despicable and ridiculous.


she could have. but it doesn't appear that way now? why are you so self-righteous? the housekeeper had lots of opportunity and made many conflicting statements. she was an obvious suspect to people looking for FACTS. i would guess now she probably wasn't involved. but this isn't over yet. try to stick with the facts and don't be a racist.


That's what we were trying to tell the folks who were posting her home address and suggesting that her fingernails were proof that she was living beyond her means.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Who cares what color or race the person was. The only fact you need to know is that a human did this to another human. Crazy doesnt discriminate


+1

I think people like to point fingers to comfort themselves, but also distance themselves in a way that makes them feel better about not sharing anything in common with psychopaths, and to try and explain the unexplainable. But psychopaths exist in every racial, religious, ethnic, and SEC demographic. They ARE like you and I in many ways. But also unlike you and I in many ways.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:BTW the posts suggesting that the housekeeper tipped off someone /MS-13 are despicable and ridiculous.


she could have. but it doesn't appear that way now? why are you so self-righteous? the housekeeper had lots of opportunity and made many conflicting statements. she was an obvious suspect to people looking for FACTS. i would guess now she probably wasn't involved. but this isn't over yet. try to stick with the facts and don't be a racist.

Who is being a racist? The person saying it is ridiculous to assume the housekeeper is ms-13 just because she is from central america?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTOP just reported that suspect worked for one of SS's companies.




Why on earth wouls SS hire a person with a rap sheet? Maybe the perp used a different name?


his company is very large and has a large number of employees. Wint was likely a very low level guy, I guess SS did not hire him personally or even knew him.

on a side note http://www.americanironworks.com/missionStatement.aspx
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:With regards to how you should act when confronted by violent criminal...what DO you do in home invasion?
Are there cases where people HAVE survived after complying with invaders demands?
So not victim blaming just wondering what I would do?
So awful to consider.



I too would like to know this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTOP just reported that suspect worked for one of SS's companies.




Why on earth wouls SS hire a person with a rap sheet? Maybe the perp used a different name?


Maybe he didn't run a background check. Maybe he ran it but didn't care. Maybe he was not in charge of hiring. Who knows why people do what they do.


Would you rather they never hire felons and create an even bigger societal problem?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So why then, if this is so random,
Is Lanier & the DC police dept not warning people to be vigilant?
That peeves me...we don't know if he acted alone or not.


They are not warning people to be vigilant because you are not at any increased risk due to this crime. While this was a horrifying, terrifying crime, we are not experiencing a wave of violent hostage crimes. Whether it's completely random crime of opportunity, or the family in question was somehow targeted, it's a freakish event that we see the likes of only a few times in our lifetimes.

Of course the police are urging the public to come forward with any evidence and to be on the lookout for the suspect, which is entirely appropriate.


Why no danger, dont these people usually hide in someone else's basement till the manhunt dies down, thereby holding more hostages and committing more crimes?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTOP just reported that suspect worked for one of SS's companies.




Why on earth wouls SS hire a person with a rap sheet? Maybe the perp used a different name?


Maybe he didn't run a background check. Maybe he ran it but didn't care. Maybe he was not in charge of hiring. Who knows why people do what they do.


Would you rather they never hire felons and create an even bigger societal problem?

Wow, just wow. If it would have prevented their them and their housekeeper from being murdered, yes. He is a small business owner, not the federal government.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crap. Signed, NYC Mom


Seriously?


Over reports that Wint is now in the NYC area? Yes, crap. was I supposed to roll,out the welcome wagon?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:With regards to how you should act when confronted by violent criminal...what DO you do in home invasion?
Are there cases where people HAVE survived after complying with invaders demands?
So not victim blaming just wondering what I would do?
So awful to consider.



I too would like to know this.


You do what they tell you.

It's up to the individual to what level s/he wants to go with home security. You could have silent panic buttons installed in your home but you would need to get to one of them before you were tied up or whatever they do to disable you. You could keep non-firearm weapons in your home kept in various spots (away from kids obviously) such as mace, tasers, etc. You have to be able to do something before they take control and you are at their mercy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTOP just reported that suspect worked for one of SS's companies.




Why on earth wouls SS hire a person with a rap sheet? Maybe the perp used a different name?


his company is very large and has a large number of employees. Wint was likely a very low level guy, I guess SS did not hire him personally or even knew him.

on a side note http://www.americanironworks.com/missionStatement.aspx


Does anyone think the suspect's mother's business site (earlier in the thread) mimics this site, noted above? The suspect's mother's business site is horribly vague, leading me to believe she just wanted access to people with money, and that she deems people with money "stupid". Supposedly successful people achieved their status by being stupid? That's a new one.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Crap. Signed, NYC Mom


I wish some of you would tone it down a bit and get a grip. Your odds of being his next victim among the millions of people in NYC are minute.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crap. Signed, NYC Mom


Seriously?


Over reports that Wint is now in the NYC area? Yes, crap. was I supposed to roll,out the welcome wagon?


Just don't invite him in for pizza. Too soon?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NW mom here getting obsessed with reading about this story- horrified and sad for those two girls especially who have lost their family - I wonder if there is anything we can do for the girls, any outpouring of support from the community? (maybe that is too intrusive for them and weird to get letters of support from strangers....) I can't imagine how upside down their lives have been turned and my heart goes out to them.... thinking of what happened to their brother (let alone the rest of the family) makes me cry it is so sad.....

On other note, anyone thinking of implementing a "safe word" for their family to trigger a warning if this happens... ( I know it is rare chance, and hopefully a freakish isolated incidence) but maybe a safe word system could help warn people over the phone/text???


I can't speak for them but I don't see why a letter of support would be interpreted as anything but kind and thoughtful.

As far as the bigger picture of how to support, I would think a renewed emphasis on crime prevention, both security as well as addressing underlying causes such as drug and alcohol abuse, unemployment, felony convictions, education, etc.

As far as a safe word: I think every family should have a plan of action, including safety words, if this unthinkable act were to happen to them.


My younger sister is friends with Katerina. They are getting tons of support from friends and family on Facebook, and I think that is what really matters. Support from strangers might seem invasive to them, especially as one of the girls has been very vocal on Facebook about invasion of privacy by certain media sources here.
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