Big 3 (or thereabouts) College Results - Class of 2021

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^^ Sorry, hit send too quickly. I’ll send a follow up message for RD, but not the rest of that. Not my style and I don’t know enough about her app overall. I did like her though!

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Anonymous wrote:I interviewed a kid from the "Big 3" for my HYPS alma mater and I'm sad she got deferred. She seemed great!

Did she tell you she got deferred or does the school tell you that?

The school tells me. You can login to your alumni reviewer portal and check on the status of kids you’ve interviewed. They ask you to contact anyone who got in to say congrats; they ask you not to contact anyone who didn’t. Anyways, I just really liked this kid — one of the best two I’ve interviewed in about 10 years — so I was disappointed she ended up deferred. No doubt she’ll get in somewhere great though.

To the interviewer -- if you happen to be the woman who interviewed my daughter, she loved talking to you, too. She is disappointed, but still holding out hope that she'll get better news during the regular decision round. Thank you for rooting for her!

Statistically, I’m sure it’s someone else. But now I’m curious: Can you tell me anything about the interview/your daughter/anything I said during the interview that would allow me to know if it was her?

No Dog in this ...but my vote is the interviewer / alum call the AD and says, " this is the most outstanding kid I have interviewed in 10 years and I am so taken back that she was deferred that I am questioning whether my Alma Mater still holds out the same values and ethos when I was a student.... I am seriously considering no longer donating...

fingers crossed that gets her IN

Alum, do NOT do this, and if anyone affiliated with any private or public school asks you to do this, report their conduct to your admissions contact immediately.

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Anonymous wrote:I interviewed a kid from the "Big 3" for my HYPS alma mater and I'm sad she got deferred. She seemed great!

Did she tell you she got deferred or does the school tell you that?

The school tells me. You can login to your alumni reviewer portal and check on the status of kids you’ve interviewed. They ask you to contact anyone who got in to say congrats; they ask you not to contact anyone who didn’t. Anyways, I just really liked this kid — one of the best two I’ve interviewed in about 10 years — so I was disappointed she ended up deferred. No doubt she’ll get in somewhere great though.

To the interviewer -- if you happen to be the woman who interviewed my daughter, she loved talking to you, too. She is disappointed, but still holding out hope that she'll get better news during the regular decision round. Thank you for rooting for her!

Statistically, I’m sure it’s someone else. But now I’m curious: Can you tell me anything about the interview/your daughter/anything I said during the interview that would allow me to know if it was her?

No Dog in this ...but my vote is the interviewer / alum call the AD and says, " this is the most outstanding kid I have interviewed in 10 years and I am so taken back that she was deferred that I am questioning whether my Alma Mater still holds out the same values and ethos when I was a student.... I am seriously considering no longer donating...

fingers crossed that gets her IN

Alum, do NOT do this, and if anyone affiliated with any private or public school asks you to do this, report their conduct to your admissions contact immediately.

That suggestion simply indicates the poster has no clue what the purpose of the alumni interview is.

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Anonymous wrote:I interviewed a kid from the "Big 3" for my HYPS alma mater and I'm sad she got deferred. She seemed great!

Did she tell you she got deferred or does the school tell you that?

The school tells me. You can login to your alumni reviewer portal and check on the status of kids you’ve interviewed. They ask you to contact anyone who got in to say congrats; they ask you not to contact anyone who didn’t. Anyways, I just really liked this kid — one of the best two I’ve interviewed in about 10 years — so I was disappointed she ended up deferred. No doubt she’ll get in somewhere great though.

To the interviewer -- if you happen to be the woman who interviewed my daughter, she loved talking to you, too. She is disappointed, but still holding out hope that she'll get better news during the regular decision round. Thank you for rooting for her!

Statistically, I’m sure it’s someone else. But now I’m curious: Can you tell me anything about the interview/your daughter/anything I said during the interview that would allow me to know if it was her?

No Dog in this ...but my vote is the interviewer / alum call the AD and says, " this is the most outstanding kid I have interviewed in 10 years and I am so taken back that she was deferred that I am questioning whether my Alma Mater still holds out the same values and ethos when I was a student.... I am seriously considering no longer donating...

fingers crossed that gets her IN

Alum, do NOT do this, and if anyone affiliated with any private or public school asks you to do this, report their conduct to your admissions contact immediately.

What would you be reporting them for violating? Advocacy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many early Harvard admits from GDS this year?

23

Geeze they are really slipping.

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Anonymous wrote:STA sends about 20 percent of its class to Ivies, 20 percent to top ranked SLACS, and about 20 percent of its class to Chicago and Tulane.

The "Big 3" don't tell you how many of those students are recruited athletes, donor families, highly connected or under represented minorities. Take those numbers with a grain of salt.

I think the issue isn't URM, or recruited athletes or donor families, those can come from public too. It is the issue of legacy. I think it is telling how many students get into MIT, if any, as MIT does not use legacy as an element of consideration within their admissions.

Exactly this: Legacy
The low MIT numbers show that.

No, it doesn’t. It’s about culture. STA follows a liberal arts curriculum and is most appealing for boys and parents who value that. This population is not interested in sending their boys to MIT.

In addition, to be competitive at MIT or any of the schools that specialize in STEM, you need a different approach to STEM than is offered by STA.

Our son is very strong in STEM and, as STA parents, we are conscious that he will need to make a choice soon. If he wants to focus on STEM, we’ll need to think about magnet schools.

We are HYP alums who would prefer that our son take the liberal arts route, but friends who are on faculty at prestigious STEM schools have told us he will be at a disadvantage in STEM fields if he attends Harvard or Yale.

Princeton has a respected school of engineering, so that might be a compromise, but if he wants to work in computer science, even Princeton will disadvantage him.

The best Ivy for STEM is Cornell, but Big 3 schools send grads to Stanford, Cal, Georgia Tech, Carnegie Mellon, Harvey Mudd and even to MIT, occasionally.

True, they send more to Dartmouth, Yale, Harvard and def U of Chicago, but I think PP is a bit out of date.

STEM is the future much more so than it was 15- 20 years ago, there are waaay to many Lawyers and these schools change with the times.

Count the SE Asians in each class. That is a good indicator of what the academics are like and how things are trending

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Anonymous wrote:^ NP. I am guessing that the Big 3 kids in your classes were not the ones in the top of the class at their Big 3s, but the W kids were probably at the top of class or closer to it. So you are not comparing the same tier of kids. I have kids who have attended public and Big 3, and am very confident that the top 50% at the Big 3 are at least as strong academically as the top 15-20% at a W school (and we are in a W district).

The top W kids are going to the same schools as the top big 3 kids

Because in BOTH CASES their parents are alumni and they are legacies.

You are comparing a apple to an " organic apple "

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what I know so far from my kids about their friends:
Stanford
Colby
Kansas
UMass Amherst
U Delaware

My own child has not heard from any of her colleges yet.

Update from Saturday from our Big 3 with U of Chicago on Monday:

Yale
Harvard
Duke
Columbia
Dartmouth
Cornell
Saint Andrews

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Anonymous wrote:STA sends about 20 percent of its class to Ivies, 20 percent to top ranked SLACS, and about 20 percent of its class to Chicago and Tulane.

The "Big 3" don't tell you how many of those students are recruited athletes, donor families, highly connected or under represented minorities. Take those numbers with a grain of salt.

I think the issue isn't URM, or recruited athletes or donor families, those can come from public too. It is the issue of legacy. I think it is telling how many students get into MIT, if any, as MIT does not use legacy as an element of consideration within their admissions.

Exactly this: Legacy
The low MIT numbers show that.

No, it doesn’t. It’s about culture. STA follows a liberal arts curriculum and is most appealing for boys and parents who value that. This population is not interested in sending their boys to MIT.

In addition, to be competitive at MIT or any of the schools that specialize in STEM, you need a different approach to STEM than is offered by STA.

Our son is very strong in STEM and, as STA parents, we are conscious that he will need to make a choice soon. If he wants to focus on STEM, we’ll need to think about magnet schools.

We are HYP alums who would prefer that our son take the liberal arts route, but friends who are on faculty at prestigious STEM schools have told us he will be at a disadvantage in STEM fields if he attends Harvard or Yale.

Princeton has a respected school of engineering, so that might be a compromise, but if he wants to work in computer science, even Princeton will disadvantage him.

The best Ivy for STEM is Cornell, but Big 3 schools send grads to Stanford, Cal, Georgia Tech, Carnegie Mellon, Harvey Mudd and even to MIT, occasionally.

True, they send more to Dartmouth, Yale, Harvard and def U of Chicago, but I think PP is a bit out of date.

STEM is the future much more so than it was 15- 20 years ago, there are waaay to many Lawyers and these schools change with the times.

Count the SE Asians in each class. That is a good indicator of what the academics are like and how things are trending

PP, I wasn't speaking for all Big 3s. I was speaking for STA, as the first poster suggested that STA kids only get into Ivies and SLACs because of their legacy status and presented the lack of STA admits to MIT as evidence. Well, you can't get in if you don't apply. STA does send kids to STEM schools, but they are a minority.

Your reference to SE Asians is stereotyping of the worst sort. Most of the SE Asians grads from STA go on to Ivies and SLACs. I'd say you're the one who is out of date.

STEM is so not the future compared to 15-20 years ago. Most of the STEM functions currently done by humans will be outsourced to AI in another 15-20 years. People who can think creatively and solve problems will be the ones employed. Many STEM types will be retraining.

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Anonymous wrote:^ NP. I am guessing that the Big 3 kids in your classes were not the ones in the top of the class at their Big 3s, but the W kids were probably at the top of class or closer to it. So you are not comparing the same tier of kids. I have kids who have attended public and Big 3, and am very confident that the top 50% at the Big 3 are at least as strong academically as the top 15-20% at a W school (and we are in a W district).

The top W kids are going to the same schools as the top big 3 kids

Because in BOTH CASES their parents are alumni and they are legacies.

You are comparing a apple to an " organic apple "

An apple is grown with fertilizer whereas an "organic apple" is grown in natural manure (shit).

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Anonymous wrote:I interviewed a kid from the "Big 3" for my HYPS alma mater and I'm sad she got deferred. She seemed great!

Did she tell you she got deferred or does the school tell you that?

The school tells me. You can login to your alumni reviewer portal and check on the status of kids you’ve interviewed. They ask you to contact anyone who got in to say congrats; they ask you not to contact anyone who didn’t. Anyways, I just really liked this kid — one of the best two I’ve interviewed in about 10 years — so I was disappointed she ended up deferred. No doubt she’ll get in somewhere great though.

To the interviewer -- if you happen to be the woman who interviewed my daughter, she loved talking to you, too. She is disappointed, but still holding out hope that she'll get better news during the regular decision round. Thank you for rooting for her!

Statistically, I’m sure it’s someone else. But now I’m curious: Can you tell me anything about the interview/your daughter/anything I said during the interview that would allow me to know if it was her?

No Dog in this ...but my vote is the interviewer / alum call the AD and says, " this is the most outstanding kid I have interviewed in 10 years and I am so taken back that she was deferred that I am questioning whether my Alma Mater still holds out the same values and ethos when I was a student.... I am seriously considering no longer donating...

fingers crossed that gets her IN

Alum, do NOT do this, and if anyone affiliated with any private or public school asks you to do this, report their conduct to your admissions contact immediately.

PPP clearly has NO understanding of how admissions works. No decent self-respecting alum would have the stupidity to make that kind of threat. I have interviewed many students for two HYP schools. Many outstanding and incredible kids I've interviewed have been flat-out rejected. It's disappointing, but I know that the admissions staff are the only people who have knowledge of the entire applicant pool. They have to make tough decisions to create a class. It's not about the individual student. Their job is tough enough without my making it harder through moronic threats.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what I know so far from my kids about their friends:
Stanford
Colby
Kansas
UMass Amherst
U Delaware

My own child has not heard from any of her colleges yet.

Update from Saturday from our Big 3 with U of Chicago on Monday:

Yale
Harvard
Duke
Columbia
Dartmouth
Cornell
Saint Andrews

I'm not sure whether we are at the same Big 3, but that list reflects what I know about my son's class so far. I'd also add Bowdoin and Tulane to that list.

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Anonymous wrote:I interviewed a kid from the "Big 3" for my HYPS alma mater and I'm sad she got deferred. She seemed great!

Did she tell you she got deferred or does the school tell you that?

The school tells me. You can login to your alumni reviewer portal and check on the status of kids you’ve interviewed. They ask you to contact anyone who got in to say congrats; they ask you not to contact anyone who didn’t. Anyways, I just really liked this kid — one of the best two I’ve interviewed in about 10 years — so I was disappointed she ended up deferred. No doubt she’ll get in somewhere great though.

To the interviewer -- if you happen to be the woman who interviewed my daughter, she loved talking to you, too. She is disappointed, but still holding out hope that she'll get better news during the regular decision round. Thank you for rooting for her!

Statistically, I’m sure it’s someone else. But now I’m curious: Can you tell me anything about the interview/your daughter/anything I said during the interview that would allow me to know if it was her?

No Dog in this ...but my vote is the interviewer / alum call the AD and says, " this is the most outstanding kid I have interviewed in 10 years and I am so taken back that she was deferred that I am questioning whether my Alma Mater still holds out the same values and ethos when I was a student.... I am seriously considering no longer donating...

fingers crossed that gets her IN

Alum, do NOT do this, and if anyone affiliated with any private or public school asks you to do this, report their conduct to your admissions contact immediately.

PPP clearly has NO understanding of how admissions works. No decent self-respecting alum would have the stupidity to make that kind of threat. I have interviewed many students for two HYP schools. Many outstanding and incredible kids I've interviewed have been flat-out rejected. It's disappointing, but I know that the admissions staff are the only people who have knowledge of the entire applicant pool. They have to make tough decisions to create a class. It's not about the individual student. Their job is tough enough without my making it harder through moronic threats.

Further evidence that you “interviews” a) take yourselves far too seriously; b) don’t recognize written sarcasm and attempts at humor when you see them; snd c) actually believe that your little session at Starbucks has any impact whatsoever on whether or not a candidate is admitted.

Don’t you realize that your vaunted Ivy lets you play interviewer to keep you happy and connected, so the $$ keep coming?

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Anonymous wrote:I interviewed a kid from the "Big 3" for my HYPS alma mater and I'm sad she got deferred. She seemed great!

Did she tell you she got deferred or does the school tell you that?

The school tells me. You can login to your alumni reviewer portal and check on the status of kids you’ve interviewed. They ask you to contact anyone who got in to say congrats; they ask you not to contact anyone who didn’t. Anyways, I just really liked this kid — one of the best two I’ve interviewed in about 10 years — so I was disappointed she ended up deferred. No doubt she’ll get in somewhere great though.

To the interviewer -- if you happen to be the woman who interviewed my daughter, she loved talking to you, too. She is disappointed, but still holding out hope that she'll get better news during the regular decision round. Thank you for rooting for her!

Statistically, I’m sure it’s someone else. But now I’m curious: Can you tell me anything about the interview/your daughter/anything I said during the interview that would allow me to know if it was her?

No Dog in this ...but my vote is the interviewer / alum call the AD and says, " this is the most outstanding kid I have interviewed in 10 years and I am so taken back that she was deferred that I am questioning whether my Alma Mater still holds out the same values and ethos when I was a student.... I am seriously considering no longer donating...

fingers crossed that gets her IN

Alum, do NOT do this, and if anyone affiliated with any private or public school asks you to do this, report their conduct to your admissions contact immediately.

PPP clearly has NO understanding of how admissions works. No decent self-respecting alum would have the stupidity to make that kind of threat. I have interviewed many students for two HYP schools. Many outstanding and incredible kids I've interviewed have been flat-out rejected. It's disappointing, but I know that the admissions staff are the only people who have knowledge of the entire applicant pool. They have to make tough decisions to create a class. It's not about the individual student. Their job is tough enough without my making it harder through moronic threats.

Further evidence that you “interviews” a) take yourselves far too seriously; b) don’t recognize written sarcasm and attempts at humor when you see them; snd c) actually believe that your little session at Starbucks has any impact whatsoever on whether or not a candidate is admitted.

Don’t you realize that your vaunted Ivy lets you play interviewer to keep you happy and connected, so the $$ keep coming?

That time you said something stupid and then tried to pass it off as sarcasm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:GDS is probably the strongest STEM school in the area

Holton is the strongest private STEM school in the area