Big 3 (or thereabouts) College Results - Class of 2021

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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of STA parents had Ivy League educations?

While I do not know the answer to your question, I know several ivy graduate STA parents disappointed by their STA graduating child’s college results this DAR this year.. So much for legacy status....

I am highly confident that there are more parents at STA (and NCS, SFS, GDS) who went to Ivy League schools than there are students there who will get in - the Ivies just aren't going to take enough people from these schools for every legacy to get into his/her parents' school.

We are Ivy grads - ugrad and grad school. We no longer donate nor care to have our kids apply. They’re all up to their eyeballs in identity politics and weak majors. And totally agree with the wsj calling them out in never increasing number of seats s. If their mission was to educate as many students as possible why aren’t they trying to expand the number of admits the last 100 years. It’s not like population hasn’t increased. It’s not like the Board of Harvard hasn’t been stewing over that the last 7 years. Either way, hate the Dean, President and the it seems like half the professors want to be politicians.

Totally agreed. Encouraging my kids to go elsewhere. Not impressed at all by Ivy degrees. Yes I have them but your opinion of me should be based on something else.

We are another dual ivy couple. While I do not argue about the unfortunate nature of the ivy teaching culture that results in varied teaching quality that can be bested in other schools, I do not agree with discouraging kids from applying to genuinely warranted high prestige schools. What might be lost in the teaching experience is more than made up in the networking potential of attending a high profile, caliber university. Sure a talented student can excel in any environment, but it’s better to do so in a place where the people you meet as a freshman are likely to be in the C suite as alumni.

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The problem for the 2021 class universally is that a lot of 2020s deferred enrollment until fall 2021. That meant more 2020s got admission offers at top schools and that fewer seats were available to 2021s. This situation is unlikely to persist in 2022.

Several of the Ivies and Stanford took classes similar in size to past years despite deferrals, so not necessarily an issue.

Admission rates down because applications way up.

The number of deferrals from the class of 2020 is a real issue that both increased opportunity for less than qualified candidates in the class of 2020 and limited opportunity for more qualified members of the class of 2021. My kid was accepted into their first choice reach, so it isn’t an issue in our family (and we are grateful) - but many of my child’s very talented, qualified classmates are now looking at attending their 2nd or 3rd choice school. Their frustration is justified. The dynamic will not be the same for next year.

Absolutely. It’s just bizarre to me that people are trying to argue that something that is obviously true isn’t happening.

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Oh dear, having to attend a 2nd or 3rd choice school.

Do you hear yourself?

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All schools had deferrals from class of 2020 - in some Universities, 1/4 of the incoming class decided to hold their spot and begin as a Freshman in fall of 2021

These schools did not increase their class sizes so, yes, hundreds of less spots at each Ivy and other competitive school this year

Bigger impact : with Trump gone the full pay iNternational students are back to bail out the over borrowed Universities that are down by tens of millions in lost revenue from sports and annual giving

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Actually, international students from Asia are very worried about the spread of Asian hate in this country, and parents are concerned about their children's safety in America if they are a minority.

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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of STA parents had Ivy League educations?

While I do not know the answer to your question, I know several ivy graduate STA parents disappointed by their STA graduating child’s college results this DAR this year.. So much for legacy status....

I am highly confident that there are more parents at STA (and NCS, SFS, GDS) who went to Ivy League schools than there are students there who will get in - the Ivies just aren't going to take enough people from these schools for every legacy to get into his/her parents' school.

We are Ivy grads - ugrad and grad school. We no longer donate nor care to have our kids apply. They’re all up to their eyeballs in identity politics and weak majors. And totally agree with the wsj calling them out in never increasing number of seats s. If their mission was to educate as many students as possible why aren’t they trying to expand the number of admits the last 100 years. It’s not like population hasn’t increased. It’s not like the Board of Harvard hasn’t been stewing over that the last 7 years. Either way, hate the Dean, President and the it seems like half the professors want to be politicians.

Totally agreed. Encouraging my kids to go elsewhere. Not impressed at all by Ivy degrees. Yes I have them but your opinion of me should be based on something else.

We are another dual ivy couple. While I do not argue about the unfortunate nature of the ivy teaching culture that results in varied teaching quality that can be bested in other schools, I do not agree with discouraging kids from applying to genuinely warranted high prestige schools. What might be lost in the teaching experience is more than made up in the networking potential of attending a high profile, caliber university. Sure a talented student can excel in any environment, but it’s better to do so in a place where the people you meet as a freshman are likely to be in the C suite as alumni.

And you named your DS "Jack" because it sounds good on the playground as well as in the boardroom.

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SO many excellent students do not go to IVY. SO many. It’s not the end all be all it might have been 25 yrs ago.

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Anonymous wrote:SO many excellent students do not go to IVY. SO many. It’s not the end all be all it might have been 25 yrs ago.

It wasn't the end all be all 25 years ago either.

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We will find out in less than 10 years that the Ivy League for undergrad has lost relevance. It is already evident on Wall Street and Silicon Valley. Big Law DC types seem to be the last to figure this out. I fear much of the Ivy League has become finishing schools or cotillions. Signed Ivy League graduate.

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Anonymous wrote:SO many excellent students do not go to IVY. SO many. It’s not the end all be all it might have been 25 yrs ago.

It wasn't the end all be all 25 years ago either.

Even 25 (and more) years ago, excellent kids ended up at state schools because that is what their parents could afford. One cousin in at Duke, the other in at Harvard, but both graduated from their state school because their parents could not swing Ivy tuition. I have a friend with an Ivy degree and her DH graduated from a top SLAC. A couple of years ago their very smart son was a senior at a school of very smart kids. The mom would not look at any school not in top 20 and son took his cues from her. Kid rejected at his Ivy ED1, scrambled and rejected for his top SLAC ED2, and went into spring break with no idea of where to apply as they had only looked at a narrow list of schools when making college visits. DS now very happy, but would have been better served by more open-minded parents.

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Anonymous wrote:We will find out in less than 10 years that the Ivy League for undergrad has lost relevance. It is already evident on Wall Street and Silicon Valley. Big Law DC types seem to be the last to figure this out. I fear much of the Ivy League has become finishing schools or cotillions. Signed Ivy League graduate.

exactly what do you think it was 50 or 100 years ago?

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Anonymous wrote:We will find out in less than 10 years that the Ivy League for undergrad has lost relevance. It is already evident on Wall Street and Silicon Valley. Big Law DC types seem to be the last to figure this out. I fear much of the Ivy League has become finishing schools or cotillions. Signed Ivy League graduate.

exactly what do you think it was 50 or 100 years ago?

What is replacing it? My elite tech employer continues to be full of Ivy League grads FYI....

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My Ivy League degree allowed me to interview for jobs after a five-year hiatus from the workforce as I spent the time as a stay-at-home mom. The alumni network, and the cache that the degree brings, undoubtedly helped get me an interview.

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Anonymous wrote:My Ivy League degree allowed me to interview for jobs after a five-year hiatus from the workforce as I spent the time as a stay-at-home mom. The alumni network, and the cache that the degree brings, undoubtedly helped get me an interview.

cachet

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Anonymous wrote:My Ivy League degree allowed me to interview for jobs after a five-year hiatus from the workforce as I spent the time as a stay-at-home mom. The alumni network, and the cache that the degree brings, undoubtedly helped get me an interview.

That's a nuance I hadn't thought of. Interesting.