Colleges that reopened and are shutting down

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That’s disappointing about Northwestern. Such an expensive institution with a renowned med campus in the city. I would expect more of them too.


They are not 100% on-campus residential
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm still mad at Northwestern. They kicked the Freshman and the Sophomores off campus 2 weeks b4 school started. They told the kids to NOT live off campus and to go home.

Well most of the kids I know (my DD is a sophomore) had already made plans to live off campus, signed leases, etc... including my DD.

NU is not reaching out to these off campus kids, getting their addresses, nor offering preventative covid testing. They will only test these kids if they have symptoms or were exposed.

Bites. I expected so much better from NU


The freshman will survive at home. It sucks to be a sophomore with a lease though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone want their kid to join a fraternity. Really.

You name the health issue (binge drinking, hazing, rape) and they have an outsized problem. This is based upon studies, not my stereotype).

Think about what else your kid is "learning" there.

Looks like someone didn’t get in and is still mad.


I know someone who is in jail because of a hazing crime.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It is very interesting that some schools are having difficulty with cases while others have had so few. It would be an interesting study of the whys.


I’d guess that the more selective the school the more serious (and intelligent) the students which should translate into superior outcomes. Big state U.....not so much.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is very interesting that some schools are having difficulty with cases while others have had so few. It would be an interesting study of the whys.


I’d guess that the more selective the school the more serious (and intelligent) the students which should translate into superior outcomes. Big state U.....not so much.


DP.

Bit of snobbery and some assumptions showing there, PP. All the selectivity in the world won't help if you have a lot of students who live off-campus and do not practice very rigorous and consistent masking and distancing and generally work hard to keep themselves infection-free.

Even the most intelligent students are still 18-22 or so, and many are going to be book-smart and not necessarily smart about life. Or like a lot of young adults that age, they feel (even if their logical selves say otherwise) that they're invincibly healthy. And even these smart young adults might not be great at assessing their personal risk very well. Even if they can assess risk beautifully on a spreadsheet in some stats class or whatever.

Before you leap back in to crow, "Your kid must be at Big State U! Sour grapes!" -- because I know how the DCUM hive mind works like that -- my kid is at a small private college that currently has excellent control over the virus after most kids have been back on campus for three weeks and some for longer. And I still don't care to make any assumptions about what is happening or what will happen there, despite the fact these are serious, intelligent students who are doing well so far.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm still mad at Northwestern. They kicked the Freshman and the Sophomores off campus 2 weeks b4 school started. They told the kids to NOT live off campus and to go home.

Well most of the kids I know (my DD is a sophomore) had already made plans to live off campus, signed leases, etc... including my DD.

NU is not reaching out to these off campus kids, getting their addresses, nor offering preventative covid testing. They will only test these kids if they have symptoms or were exposed.

Bites. I expected so much better from NU


The freshman will survive at home. It sucks to be a sophomore with a lease though.


It sucks worse to be a sophomore stuck at home while everyone else is at college, like my kid.
Anonymous
VT is headed downhill fast.
They are requiring some students to move from one dorm to another because they need more quarantine space.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is very interesting that some schools are having difficulty with cases while others have had so few. It would be an interesting study of the whys.


I’d guess that the more selective the school the more serious (and intelligent) the students which should translate into superior outcomes. Big state U.....not so much.


DP.

Bit of snobbery and some assumptions showing there, PP. All the selectivity in the world won't help if you have a lot of students who live off-campus and do not practice very rigorous and consistent masking and distancing and generally work hard to keep themselves infection-free.

Even the most intelligent students are still 18-22 or so, and many are going to be book-smart and not necessarily smart about life. Or like a lot of young adults that age, they feel (even if their logical selves say otherwise) that they're invincibly healthy. And even these smart young adults might not be great at assessing their personal risk very well. Even if they can assess risk beautifully on a spreadsheet in some stats class or whatever.

Before you leap back in to crow, "Your kid must be at Big State U! Sour grapes!" -- because I know how the DCUM hive mind works like that -- my kid is at a small private college that currently has excellent control over the virus after most kids have been back on campus for three weeks and some for longer. And I still don't care to make any assumptions about what is happening or what will happen there, despite the fact these are serious, intelligent students who are doing well so far.
+1, which is why UVA’s and William &Mary’s statistics are comparatively good.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is very interesting that some schools are having difficulty with cases while others have had so few. It would be an interesting study of the whys.


I’d guess that the more selective the school the more serious (and intelligent) the students which should translate into superior outcomes. Big state U.....not so much.


DP.

Bit of snobbery and some assumptions showing there, PP. All the selectivity in the world won't help if you have a lot of students who live off-campus and do not practice very rigorous and consistent masking and distancing and generally work hard to keep themselves infection-free.

Even the most intelligent students are still 18-22 or so, and many are going to be book-smart and not necessarily smart about life. Or like a lot of young adults that age, they feel (even if their logical selves say otherwise) that they're invincibly healthy. And even these smart young adults might not be great at assessing their personal risk very well. Even if they can assess risk beautifully on a spreadsheet in some stats class or whatever.

Before you leap back in to crow, "Your kid must be at Big State U! Sour grapes!" -- because I know how the DCUM hive mind works like that -- my kid is at a small private college that currently has excellent control over the virus after most kids have been back on campus for three weeks and some for longer. And I still don't care to make any assumptions about what is happening or what will happen there, despite the fact these are serious, intelligent students who are doing well so far.

this, and many of the most selective schools don't even have their students on campus right now. (or only have a small fraction of them.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is very interesting that some schools are having difficulty with cases while others have had so few. It would be an interesting study of the whys.


I’d guess that the more selective the school the more serious (and intelligent) the students which should translate into superior outcomes. Big state U.....not so much.


DP.

Bit of snobbery and some assumptions showing there, PP. All the selectivity in the world won't help if you have a lot of students who live off-campus and do not practice very rigorous and consistent masking and distancing and generally work hard to keep themselves infection-free.

Even the most intelligent students are still 18-22 or so, and many are going to be book-smart and not necessarily smart about life. Or like a lot of young adults that age, they feel (even if their logical selves say otherwise) that they're invincibly healthy. And even these smart young adults might not be great at assessing their personal risk very well. Even if they can assess risk beautifully on a spreadsheet in some stats class or whatever.

Before you leap back in to crow, "Your kid must be at Big State U! Sour grapes!" -- because I know how the DCUM hive mind works like that -- my kid is at a small private college that currently has excellent control over the virus after most kids have been back on campus for three weeks and some for longer. And I still don't care to make any assumptions about what is happening or what will happen there, despite the fact these are serious, intelligent students who are doing well so far.
+1, which is why UVA’s and William &Mary’s statistics are comparatively good.


UVA has had kids on campus of 48 hours. A bit early to crow.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is very interesting that some schools are having difficulty with cases while others have had so few. It would be an interesting study of the whys.


I’d guess that the more selective the school the more serious (and intelligent) the students which should translate into superior outcomes. Big state U.....not so much.


DP.

Bit of snobbery and some assumptions showing there, PP. All the selectivity in the world won't help if you have a lot of students who live off-campus and do not practice very rigorous and consistent masking and distancing and generally work hard to keep themselves infection-free.

Even the most intelligent students are still 18-22 or so, and many are going to be book-smart and not necessarily smart about life. Or like a lot of young adults that age, they feel (even if their logical selves say otherwise) that they're invincibly healthy. And even these smart young adults might not be great at assessing their personal risk very well. Even if they can assess risk beautifully on a spreadsheet in some stats class or whatever.

Before you leap back in to crow, "Your kid must be at Big State U! Sour grapes!" -- because I know how the DCUM hive mind works like that -- my kid is at a small private college that currently has excellent control over the virus after most kids have been back on campus for three weeks and some for longer. And I still don't care to make any assumptions about what is happening or what will happen there, despite the fact these are serious, intelligent students who are doing well so far.


Eh, let's wait and see what happens. So far it looks like the big state schools down south and the Indianas and Wisconsins of the world aren't doing particularly well. I don't think it has to do with off campus housing, more about how serious the students are about their studies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is very interesting that some schools are having difficulty with cases while others have had so few. It would be an interesting study of the whys.


I’d guess that the more selective the school the more serious (and intelligent) the students which should translate into superior outcomes. Big state U.....not so much.


DP.

Bit of snobbery and some assumptions showing there, PP. All the selectivity in the world won't help if you have a lot of students who live off-campus and do not practice very rigorous and consistent masking and distancing and generally work hard to keep themselves infection-free.

Even the most intelligent students are still 18-22 or so, and many are going to be book-smart and not necessarily smart about life. Or like a lot of young adults that age, they feel (even if their logical selves say otherwise) that they're invincibly healthy. And even these smart young adults might not be great at assessing their personal risk very well. Even if they can assess risk beautifully on a spreadsheet in some stats class or whatever.

Before you leap back in to crow, "Your kid must be at Big State U! Sour grapes!" -- because I know how the DCUM hive mind works like that -- my kid is at a small private college that currently has excellent control over the virus after most kids have been back on campus for three weeks and some for longer. And I still don't care to make any assumptions about what is happening or what will happen there, despite the fact these are serious, intelligent students who are doing well so far.
+1, which is why UVA’s and William &Mary’s statistics are comparatively good.


William and Mary kids don’t party, and UVA just moved in this past weekend. Time will tell.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is very interesting that some schools are having difficulty with cases while others have had so few. It would be an interesting study of the whys.


I’d guess that the more selective the school the more serious (and intelligent) the students which should translate into superior outcomes. Big state U.....not so much.


DP.

Bit of snobbery and some assumptions showing there, PP. All the selectivity in the world won't help if you have a lot of students who live off-campus and do not practice very rigorous and consistent masking and distancing and generally work hard to keep themselves infection-free.

Even the most intelligent students are still 18-22 or so, and many are going to be book-smart and not necessarily smart about life. Or like a lot of young adults that age, they feel (even if their logical selves say otherwise) that they're invincibly healthy. And even these smart young adults might not be great at assessing their personal risk very well. Even if they can assess risk beautifully on a spreadsheet in some stats class or whatever.

Before you leap back in to crow, "Your kid must be at Big State U! Sour grapes!" -- because I know how the DCUM hive mind works like that -- my kid is at a small private college that currently has excellent control over the virus after most kids have been back on campus for three weeks and some for longer. And I still don't care to make any assumptions about what is happening or what will happen there, despite the fact these are serious, intelligent students who are doing well so far.


Eh, let's wait and see what happens. So far it looks like the big state schools down south and the Indianas and Wisconsins of the world aren't doing particularly well. I don't think it has to do with off campus housing, more about how serious the students are about their studies.



IU Covid Dashboard
https://fall2020.iu.edu/dashboards/bloomington
IU Bloomington Mitigation Testing from Aug 24 on 16,448 Test results | 905 Positive test results 5.5% positive, Symptomatic testing from August 1 throughout the semester: IU Bloomington | 38.6% Positive 884 Test results | 341 Positive test results

VT
https://ready.vt.edu/dashboard.html
from 8/31 to 9/6 Total Tested 1,791 324 Positive student test results 3 positive faculty
U Wisconsin
https://smartrestart.wisc.edu/dashboard/

https://protect.purdue.edu/dashboard/
from 8/31 to 9/6 Total Tested 6,011 166 Positive student tests results 8 positive faculty



Anonymous
The numbers are misleading when the schools combine mitigation test results and symptomatic test results. It dilutes the positivity % and it's hard to know which schools are doing that.
Anonymous
West Virginia online through Sept 25th

U Michigan grad student strike due to COVID
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