Colleges that reopened and are shutting down

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Anonymous wrote:Ohio State has 882 cases. They added over 800 new cases in one week. They are holding steady on percent % on campus— but are at almost 10% positive off campus. Double a few days ago.

In response Ohio State has asked their students to take COIVD seriously, mask and social distance. Please. If you don’t mind.


What an innovative request. I’m sure no school has thought of that yet.


NP. Yep. The problem is that these have been "requests" and colleges are "asking" students to follow protocols. It's too late now for most schools, of course, but they should have (and still can) require masks, require distancing, etc. They would have to do the one thing they're scared to do: Enforce. They're scared parents will rebel because the parents will say how they pay big bucks for college and colleges can't tell their supposed "adult" children what to do, but can only ask. Sorry, if my adult college student isn't following the rules I welcome her being called out, and if she won't comply, sent home.


Many of the colleges had the students sign a contract agreeing to certain conditions before returning to campus. Dartmouth’s contract even says they agree to take a vaccine if one is approved by both the FDA and the school.


God, I hope they don't force students to take an untested Trump vaccine.


Agreed! This is being pushed out way too fast.

It’s not a “Trump vaccine” you idiots. It is an Oxford/Astrazeneca vaccine. And they know a lot more about COVID and vaccines than a bunch of rando suburban women on DCUM. But hey, keep hiding in your urban farmhouses and don’t get the vaccine to score stupid political points.


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Anonymous wrote:Greek life puts kids in increased danger. There are HUNDREDS of articles that show that.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430938/

But we should probably get this thread back on tract.


So does alcohol, Tinder, and weed (which is rapidly becoming legal and “normal” everywhere)


So raise your kids with self worth and a strong backbone, and they won’t feel like they need to compromise their safety to win the approval of others. It’s all a choice. Lots of things in this world exist that have both positive and negative aspects. We need to focus on raising our kids right so they head off to college ready to make good decisions no matter what they encounter instead of expecting colleges to protect adults from themselves.
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Anonymous wrote:<<And they know a lot more about COVID and vaccines than a bunch of rando suburban women on DCUM.>>

Guess what? some of those "rando suburban women on DCUM" have PhD's and work at NIH.

Your stereotypes are appalling and I hope you don't have daughters...or sons for that matter.

Oh sure, all of the armchair “scientists” coming out of the woodwork on DCUM? Why don’t you selfish spoiled brats all refuse to get a vaccine if it is approved so that more people become unemployed and homeless and kids can’t go to school just so you can score political points?
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Anonymous wrote:Ohio State has 882 cases. They added over 800 new cases in one week. They are holding steady on percent % on campus— but are at almost 10% positive off campus. Double a few days ago.

In response Ohio State has asked their students to take COIVD seriously, mask and social distance. Please. If you don’t mind.


What an innovative request. I’m sure no school has thought of that yet.


NP. Yep. The problem is that these have been "requests" and colleges are "asking" students to follow protocols. It's too late now for most schools, of course, but they should have (and still can) require masks, require distancing, etc. They would have to do the one thing they're scared to do: Enforce. They're scared parents will rebel because the parents will say how they pay big bucks for college and colleges can't tell their supposed "adult" children what to do, but can only ask. Sorry, if my adult college student isn't following the rules I welcome her being called out, and if she won't comply, sent home.


Many of the colleges had the students sign a contract agreeing to certain conditions before returning to campus. Dartmouth’s contract even says they agree to take a vaccine if one is approved by both the FDA and the school.


God, I hope they don't force students to take an untested Trump vaccine.


Agreed! This is being pushed out way too fast.

It’s not a “Trump vaccine” you idiots. It is an Oxford/Astrazeneca vaccine. And they know a lot more about COVID and vaccines than a bunch of rando suburban women on DCUM. But hey, keep hiding in your urban farmhouses and don’t get the vaccine to score stupid political points.


DP. Your name-calling is immature and your lack of understanding of vaccine trials is showing. Trial data for the Oxford vaccine might be ready to present to regulators before the end of this year. Presenting trial data is not the same thing as having actual vaccines ready to stick into everyone's arms by the end of the year. Yet the administration is making all kinds of noise about a vaccine being "available" -- meaning in their minds, ready for actual use in the population -- very soon. That's not what those actually working on the vaccine are saying. Some of us "randos" know how to read.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-oxford-vaccine-idUSKBN25L0OV
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But if it is approved by people who know what they are talking about, then what exactly would your problem be with it then?


You missed the point entirely. The point is the timing. If you really believe it can and will be approved and ready to roll out to the general public by the end of this year, you are naive or you blindly trust whatever the administration tells you. I have no issue with a vaccine and would take it or have my kid take it if it's gone through the correct approvals. Those approvals include tests that can't be done on a rushed timeline. Certainly not by election day, which was one timeline the administration was trying to toss out there recently.
But I'm betting you're the same repeat PP who keeps coming back with the "you want to score political points by not taking a vaccine" nonsense. And who stereotypes women in our "urban farmhouses," whatever that means. Like another poster above, I hope you do not have children.
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Anonymous wrote:<<And they know a lot more about COVID and vaccines than a bunch of rando suburban women on DCUM.>>

Guess what? some of those "rando suburban women on DCUM" have PhD's and work at NIH.

Your stereotypes are appalling and I hope you don't have daughters...or sons for that matter.

Oh sure, all of the armchair “scientists” coming out of the woodwork on DCUM? Why don’t you selfish spoiled brats all refuse to get a vaccine if it is approved so that more people become unemployed and homeless and kids can’t go to school just so you can score political points?


I am a scientist, who specialises in risk=taking behavior in humans.

And I will take a vaccine as soon as people I respect (who have not been co-opted) assure me it is ready.
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Good is moving virtual through at least Sept 10th. Shelter in place in effect.
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Hood. College not Good
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My daughter is at UW-Madison and I will be SHOCKED if she’s still there by the end of the month. This is the email that just went out to students:
To our UW–Madison community,

With this letter, I am directing all undergraduate students to restrict their movements over the next two weeks in order to reverse the recent rise in COVID-19 cases. Effective at 5 p.m. Monday, Sept. 7, through 5 p.m. Monday, Sept. 21, I’m calling on all undergraduate students to severely limit in-person interaction and restrict their movement to that which is required for essential activities only.

I want to thank the many students who we know are following the public health guidelines and upholding the Badger Pledge by taking steps to prevent the spread of COVID-19: monitoring for symptoms, using face coverings and physical distancing, and limiting gatherings.

But the testing statistics from the last few days have not been good and threaten our ability to continue a semester where campus is open to students.

A growing number of COVID-19 cases have been detected, particularly among students living off-campus, and can be linked to situations where people did not wear face coverings or practice physical distancing. We see this reflected in the data, but it’s also apparent in social media posts and in conversations with students who have tested positive. Unfortunately, too many students have chosen to host or participate in social gatherings that seem to demonstrate a high disregard for the seriousness of this virus and the risk to our entire community.
As you can see in our Dashboard report, the total number of student cases has grown over each of the last five days. The rise in the positive percentage of total tests indicates this increase is not due solely to an increase in testing.
We’ve reached the point where we need to quickly flatten the curve of infection, or we will lose the opportunity to have campus open to students this semester, which we know many students truly want.

While some increase was expected as testing expanded and students returned to campus, the growing number of infected individuals suggests the virus is starting to spread more rapidly.

Given this, I’m directing all undergraduates to severely limit your in-person interactions for the next two weeks, only leaving your residence for the following essential activities:

Participating in academic activities including classes, studying or research; in-person classes will continue and study spaces will remain open; there is no evidence of virus transmission in these activities
Receiving a COVID-19 test or other medical care
Purchasing food
Going to your on- or off-campus job
Engaging in an individual outdoor activity, such as running or walking
Attending a religious observance
The university is taking the following actions to support this two-week effort (this is not an exhaustive list):

All in-person social events are cancelled.
All other student meetings, with the exception of in-person and hybrid classes, should be held online only
All registered student organization (RSO) events will be online only
All RecWell facilities will be closed during this time period
Union dining facilities will be carry-out only
No visitors will be allowed in the residence halls
In particular, I am asking all undergraduates to avoid social gatherings. These are the major cause of the spread we have seen.

Note that these restrictions do not apply to graduate students, faculty or staff members. The good news is that we see very little evidence of infection among these populations. In the few instances where we have seen cases, we do not have evidence that infection occurred through on-campus activities.

During this time, we expect all students and employees will continue to follow the Badger Pledge and Smart Restart campus health protocols, including:

Wear a face covering wherever you go, unless you have an accommodation. While we have had a requirement for face coverings indoors, we are now requiring face coverings outdoors as well unless you are engaging in individual exercise.
Practice physical distancing of 6 feet or greater, on and off campus, inside and outside and even while wearing a face covering
Do not attend gatherings of any type
Respond in timely way to phone calls about contact tracing and be truthful in your responses.
Monitor symptoms via the Health Screen tool
Delay all non-essential travel
As we have shared previously, we will continue to hold students accountable for their actions on and off campus, up to and including emergency suspension. Members of the community can report unsafe behavior.

You might be asking why you should comply with this request. I have heard from many students that they want to be on campus, even though this is necessarily a different and more distanced semester. Our seniors want to complete their year without going home. Our freshmen want a college experience, not a return to their high school days. Only a serious recommitment to public health protocols by our whole community will make this possible. If infections don’t fall, we will need to make more difficult decisions that significantly reduce our ability to have campus open to students.

I recognize that the actions I am requesting of our undergraduate students are significant. This adds another layer of uncertainty to the stress they, and all of us have been feeling. But we must reduce infections among our students to ensure that they stay healthy, and to protect the health of faculty and staff as well as those in our Madison community.

This virus cannot be controlled without each of us modifying our normal behavior. Until there is a vaccine, we must behave in a way that recognizes the threat that it poses.

I thank our students, faculty and staff for their continued hard work and trust. I particularly thank those many, many students whose behavior has been exemplary and hope that more will join them in these next two weeks. Please protect yourself and others. If you have questions, email smartrestart@vc.wisc.edu.

Chancellor Rebecca Blank
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It is very interesting that some schools are having difficulty with cases while others have had so few. It would be an interesting study of the whys.
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Gettysburg is sending all but freshmen home
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Anonymous wrote:Ohio State has 882 cases. They added over 800 new cases in one week. They are holding steady on percent % on campus— but are at almost 10% positive off campus. Double a few days ago.

In response Ohio State has asked their students to take COIVD seriously, mask and social distance. Please. If you don’t mind.


What an innovative request. I’m sure no school has thought of that yet.


NP. Yep. The problem is that these have been "requests" and colleges are "asking" students to follow protocols. It's too late now for most schools, of course, but they should have (and still can) require masks, require distancing, etc. They would have to do the one thing they're scared to do: Enforce. They're scared parents will rebel because the parents will say how they pay big bucks for college and colleges can't tell their supposed "adult" children what to do, but can only ask. Sorry, if my adult college student isn't following the rules I welcome her being called out, and if she won't comply, sent home.


Many of the colleges had the students sign a contract agreeing to certain conditions before returning to campus. Dartmouth’s contract even says they agree to take a vaccine if one is approved by both the FDA and the school.


God, I hope they don't force students to take an untested Trump vaccine.


Agreed! This is being pushed out way too fast.

It’s not a “Trump vaccine” you idiots. It is an Oxford/Astrazeneca vaccine. And they know a lot more about COVID and vaccines than a bunch of rando suburban women on DCUM. But hey, keep hiding in your urban farmhouses and don’t get the vaccine to score stupid political points.


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I'm still mad at Northwestern. They kicked the Freshman and the Sophomores off campus 2 weeks b4 school started. They told the kids to NOT live off campus and to go home.

Well most of the kids I know (my DD is a sophomore) had already made plans to live off campus, signed leases, etc... including my DD.

NU is not reaching out to these off campus kids, getting their addresses, nor offering preventative covid testing. They will only test these kids if they have symptoms or were exposed.

Bites. I expected so much better from NU
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Anonymous wrote:It is very interesting that some schools are having difficulty with cases while others have had so few. It would be an interesting study of the whys.


Why? Three words: Off campus living. It encourages gatherings, from basic day to day contacts to parties. It requires students to get to grocery stores at a minimum since they feed themselves at least some of the time. It puts them outside the bounds of campuses where there might be a shot at peer pressure and administration pressure to stay masked and distanced.

Yes, of course students who live on campus can find ways to gather without masks or distancing there on campus. But being confined to campus with strict policies about precautions can help.

And there's a fourth word: Testing. Lots of it, required, with severe consequences for missing tests, and NOT just for symptomatic students. There has to be a solid plan for what happens with a positive test and there need to be enough spaces for serious quarantine, preferably ON campus.

Large universities and/or colleges and universities with high or even just substantial proportions of off-campus dwellers, combined with inadequate amounts of asymptomatic testing, are probably screwed, unfortunately, unless they have an unusually mature and cohesive student body.
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West Virginia moved all undergraduate classes at the Morgantown campus online until 9/25. Students are being asked to stay where they are, so home if they traveled for the holiday weekend and in town if not.
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That’s disappointing about Northwestern. Such an expensive institution with a renowned med campus in the city. I would expect more of them too.
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