Colleges that reopened and are shutting down

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Hysteric doomers need to just shut up.

[Anonymous]

Some of these colleges are really sketchy with their data.

UIUC is averaging 100 new cases per day, but only showing their low positivity rate in reference to over 200k tests given.

UConn is subtracting numbers from their case count when students who are infected go home. Some students have been quarantined for four weeks so far.

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Anonymous wrote:Hysteric doomers need to just shut up.

How does a college know if a student is hospitalized?

Unless they go straight from the college to the hospital, how would they know? A student that is ill enough to need any sort of care at all must leave the isolation dorms and go home...so then data would rely on the student or a parent calling to inform the college that the student went to the hospital.

Your data is garbage.

[Anonymous]

How about the NCAA student that graduated - he’s 25 that just died of COVID?

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California University of Pennsylvania senior DT Jamain Stephens Jr. died from complications of COVID-19, the school said. The 6-3, 355-pound Stephens was 20. His father, also named Jamain, was a 1st-round draft pick of the Steelers in 1996 & played 5 seasons in the NFL.

A death of a college student, a varsity athlete, no less.

[Anonymous]

The fact that even one student died because colleges made the decision to open to retain their freshmen class and preserve their budget is a shame.

[Anonymous]

Wisconsin on 2 week mandatory quarantine.

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Anonymous wrote:That’s disappointing about Northwestern. Such an expensive institution with a renowned med campus in the city. I would expect more of them too.

Exactly!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hysteric doomers need to just shut up.

How does a college know if a student is hospitalized?

Unless they go straight from the college to the hospital, how would they know? A student that is ill enough to need any sort of care at all must leave the isolation dorms and go home...so then data would rely on the student or a parent calling to inform the college that the student went to the hospital.

Your data is garbage.

+1

Also: Focusing on student hospitalization numbers is just a way for these nutters to say, "See? College students don't get that sick, and that one death, well, it's just one outlier!" That kind of thinking totally ignores the fact that students will carry the virus home to family menbers who will in turn give it to coworkers or others and...the community spread and hospitalizations and fatalities will worsen all over the place. Cases, hospitalizations and even deaths of college students themselves are only the tip of the infection iceberg.

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Anonymous wrote:It is very interesting that some schools are having difficulty with cases while others have had so few. It would be an interesting study of the whys.

I’d guess that the more selective the school the more serious (and intelligent) the students which should translate into superior outcomes. Big state U.....not so much.

DP.

Bit of snobbery and some assumptions showing there, PP. All the selectivity in the world won't help if you have a lot of students who live off-campus and do not practice very rigorous and consistent masking and distancing and generally work hard to keep themselves infection-free.

Even the most intelligent students are still 18-22 or so, and many are going to be book-smart and not necessarily smart about life. Or like a lot of young adults that age, they feel (even if their logical selves say otherwise) that they're invincibly healthy. And even these smart young adults might not be great at assessing their personal risk very well. Even if they can assess risk beautifully on a spreadsheet in some stats class or whatever.

Before you leap back in to crow, "Your kid must be at Big State U! Sour grapes!" -- because I know how the DCUM hive mind works like that -- my kid is at a small private college that currently has excellent control over the virus after most kids have been back on campus for three weeks and some for longer. And I still don't care to make any assumptions about what is happening or what will happen there, despite the fact these are serious, intelligent students who are doing well so far.

Eh, let's wait and see what happens. So far it looks like the big state schools down south and the Indianas and Wisconsins of the world aren't doing particularly well. I don't think it has to do with off campus housing, more about how serious the students are about their studies.

You missed the point, or choose to ignore it. Students can be serious about their studies and still not good at understanding their personal risk or adhering to precautions. You seem to want to prove that the "smart kids" are going to be fine while kids at big state universities are by definition not serious students. Wow, snobbery indeed. I agree that large schools are toast re: Covid, but don't see why you're so invested in the narrative that it's because the kids are not serious as students. It's about huge population size and inability to handle testing, tracing and quarantining. There are serious students even at Big State U. It's like you're hoping the virus will cull out the "non-serious" students....

[Anonymous]

UW-Madison is by far the most selective school in Wisconsin. By far. It has way more COVID cases than any other school in the state. So your theory doesn't hold water in this case...

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I know of at least 2 JMU students and 1 UNC student who were hospitalized. Also, no one knows the long-term effects of this virus.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/09/what-young-healthy-people-have-fear-covid-19/616087/

More frightening than what we’re learning now is what we cannot yet know: the truly long-term—as in, decades-long—implications of this disease for the body. “We know that hepatitis C leads to liver cancer, we know that human papillomavirus leads to cervical cancer, we know that HIV leads to certain cancers,” Howard Forman, a health-policy professor at Yale, told James Hamblin and Katherine Wells of The Atlantic. “We have no idea whether having had this infection means that, 10 years from now, you have an elevated risk of lymphoma.”‪

[Anonymous]

Just remember, the people who died as a result of that wedding in Maine weren’t the ones who actually went to the wedding. It just spread to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just remember, the people who died as a result of that wedding in Maine weren’t the ones who actually went to the wedding. It just spread to them.

Exactly right. I work in the county in Maine most hard hit by Covid right now as a direct result of the Millinocket wedding and we are more than 200 miles away from where the gathering took placce

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https://www.newsday.com/long-island/education/coronavirus-oneonta-isolation-outbreak-1.49073354

SUNY Oneonta student taking about shutdown. Amazing 10 percent of school caught Covid this quick