What do people think of Einstein?

[Anonymous]

Discussions about all the issues at all the schools:

https://www.mymcmedia.org/i-feel-sick-mcps-officials-express-disgust-about-sexual-assault-harassment-and-racism-allegations/

[Anonymous]

BCC:

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/b-cc-blair-high-students-accused-of-rape-are-suspended-while-cases-pending/

Whitman and BCC - racism:

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/instagram-accounts-detail-bethesda-students-experiences-with-racism/

Whitman incident:

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/whitman-high-students-alumni-urge-school-to-expel-students-for-racial-vandalism/

Whitman Incident:

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2019/09/student-attacks-another-with-a-frying-pan-at-a-bethesda-high-school/

Whitman Incident:

https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/local/maryland/maryland-racist-graffiti-on-walt-whitman-campus/65-3f250223-e582-4de1-a5c2-99b03e5fab87

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/two-incidents-involving-racial-slurs-at-walt-whitman-high-school/29625/

Whitman again:

https://silverchips.mbhs.edu/content/whitman-students-charged-as-adults-in-sexual-assault-case-19819/

Churchill:

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2004/sep/14/three-arrested-in-potomac-rape/

Churchill crazy man:

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/news/videos-of-confrontation-on-churchill-high-track-go-viral/

Churchill - not good:

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2019/09/abc7-3-charged-including-clarksburg-hs.html

More -

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/anti-semitic-incidents-under-investigation-in-two-md-schools/2017/03/09/c8bab440-04fe-11e7-ad5b-d22680e18d10_story.html

More -

https://wjla.com/news/local/students-allegedly-caught-exchanging-n-word-passes-at-md-school

Wootton:

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/former-assistant-coach-at-wootton-high-school-charged-with-sex-abuse-of-2-students/2443576/

Churchill stabbing:

https://wjla.com/news/crime/police-stabbing-reported-at-winston-churchill-high-school-in-md

This is why we need more security guards and things like metal detectors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Opinions of Einstein parents are just as biased as any other. If you want objective views, do your own research. It’s not hard.

Oh yeah, because the opinions of racist people on DCUM who trash any school with a lot of minorities and poor kids, and make snap judgements after looking at raw test scores without filtering for student demographics first are totally more accurate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can tell you that the market considers it one of the worst schools in MoCo and house trade for huge discounts (as much as 50%) compared to comparable houses often just blocks away in different school zones.

Now if that is based on outdated reputations I can’t tell you but typically the market is smarter than individuals.

Since when are real estate agents school experts?

[Anonymous]

Oh don't get me started - especially on greatschools.org and how they punished a bunch of non-W schools for their "equity" measurements, which couldn't even apply to W schools in the first place because of the lack of economic diversity.

Check out niche.com, an alternative ratings site, which gives only slightly lower grades to east county schools than west county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh don't get me started - especially on greatschools.org and how they punished a bunch of non-W schools for their "equity" measurements, which couldn't even apply to W schools in the first place because of the lack of economic diversity.

Check out niche.com, an alternative ratings site, which gives only slightly lower grades to east county schools than west county.

Go to Maryland Report Card and look at the test scores and percentage of kids that attend college while filtering for different demographics. When you compare students by race and income, the W schools are actually not the cream of the crop, not even close. They need to change the way they rate schools so that it is reflective of this and not just a way of telling which school has more poor or white students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Our son attends a W school and we hadn't heard about any of this. Can you give us some examples?

If you haven’t heard of the racist incidents at W schools, you’re not paying attention. I’m not even from Montgomery County at all and I’ve heard of numerous racist incidents at Whitman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh don't get me started - especially on greatschools.org and how they punished a bunch of non-W schools for their "equity" measurements, which couldn't even apply to W schools in the first place because of the lack of economic diversity.

Check out niche.com, an alternative ratings site, which gives only slightly lower grades to east county schools than west county.

Go to Maryland Report Card and look at the test scores and percentage of kids that attend college while filtering for different demographics. When you compare students by race and income, the W schools are actually not the cream of the crop, not even close. They need to change the way they rate schools so that it is reflective of this and not just a way of telling which school has more poor or white students.

+100

It's just like (sort of like? reminded me of how?) how the SAT actually measures parental income

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh don't get me started - especially on greatschools.org and how they punished a bunch of non-W schools for their "equity" measurements, which couldn't even apply to W schools in the first place because of the lack of economic diversity.

Check out niche.com, an alternative ratings site, which gives only slightly lower grades to east county schools than west county.

Go to Maryland Report Card and look at the test scores and percentage of kids that attend college while filtering for different demographics. When you compare students by race and income, the W schools are actually not the cream of the crop, not even close. They need to change the way they rate schools so that it is reflective of this and not just a way of telling which school has more poor or white students.

You have different populations of rich and poor. Many of the "poor" kids parents didn't go to college and don't understand the process or many other things given they may be 1st generation and live in a very different world. That doesn't make those kids less smart because their English isn't good enough to take regular standardized tests or maybe they didn't get an ES education in their home country. But, we get it. You define good by race, money, and other characteristics. Its ok but don't bash schools you have no direct knowledge of.

Many of us in the Einstein cluster do very well financially but we don't need big showy houses and live within our means. Rather than pressuring our kids to get merit aid or other financial aid for college, we can comfortably pay because we spent 1/2-1/3 of the money you spent on your house on the same income. We truly value our kids future by setting them up for success without loans or other barriers starting out their adult lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Oh don't get me started - especially on greatschools.org and how they punished a bunch of non-W schools for their "equity" measurements, which couldn't even apply to W schools in the first place because of the lack of economic diversity.

Check out niche.com, an alternative ratings site, which gives only slightly lower grades to east county schools than west county.

Go to Maryland Report Card and look at the test scores and percentage of kids that attend college while filtering for different demographics. When you compare students by race and income, the W schools are actually not the cream of the crop, not even close. They need to change the way they rate schools so that it is reflective of this and not just a way of telling which school has more poor or white students.

+100

It's just like (sort of like? reminded me of how?) how the SAT actually measures parental income

That's a gross exaggeration. Yes, income can help in that someone can afford a prep class or tutor. But, at the end of the day, the kid has to learn the material. Plenty of poor kids know the material and plenty of rich ones don't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh don't get me started - especially on greatschools.org and how they punished a bunch of non-W schools for their "equity" measurements, which couldn't even apply to W schools in the first place because of the lack of economic diversity.

Check out niche.com, an alternative ratings site, which gives only slightly lower grades to east county schools than west county.

Go to Maryland Report Card and look at the test scores and percentage of kids that attend college while filtering for different demographics. When you compare students by race and income, the W schools are actually not the cream of the crop, not even close. They need to change the way they rate schools so that it is reflective of this and not just a way of telling which school has more poor or white students.

You have different populations of rich and poor. Many of the "poor" kids parents didn't go to college and don't understand the process or many other things given they may be 1st generation and live in a very different world. That doesn't make those kids less smart because their English isn't good enough to take regular standardized tests or maybe they didn't get an ES education in their home country. But, we get it. You define good by race, money, and other characteristics. Its ok but don't bash schools you have no direct knowledge of.

Many of us in the Einstein cluster do very well financially but we don't need big showy houses and live within our means. Rather than pressuring our kids to get merit aid or other financial aid for college, we can comfortably pay because we spent 1/2-1/3 of the money you spent on your house on the same income. We truly value our kids future by setting them up for success without loans or other barriers starting out their adult lives.

If you think most people at W schools live in big, showy houses, you clearly haven't spent much time there. Now, some of the shi!t shacks people live in can be relatively expensive, but they ain't showy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Oh don't get me started - especially on greatschools.org and how they punished a bunch of non-W schools for their "equity" measurements, which couldn't even apply to W schools in the first place because of the lack of economic diversity.

Check out niche.com, an alternative ratings site, which gives only slightly lower grades to east county schools than west county.

Go to Maryland Report Card and look at the test scores and percentage of kids that attend college while filtering for different demographics. When you compare students by race and income, the W schools are actually not the cream of the crop, not even close. They need to change the way they rate schools so that it is reflective of this and not just a way of telling which school has more poor or white students.

You have different populations of rich and poor. Many of the "poor" kids parents didn't go to college and don't understand the process or many other things given they may be 1st generation and live in a very different world. That doesn't make those kids less smart because their English isn't good enough to take regular standardized tests or maybe they didn't get an ES education in their home country. But, we get it. You define good by race, money, and other characteristics. Its ok but don't bash schools you have no direct knowledge of.

Many of us in the Einstein cluster do very well financially but we don't need big showy houses and live within our means. Rather than pressuring our kids to get merit aid or other financial aid for college, we can comfortably pay because we spent 1/2-1/3 of the money you spent on your house on the same income. We truly value our kids future by setting them up for success without loans or other barriers starting out their adult lives.

If you think most people at W schools live in big, showy houses, you clearly haven't spent much time there. Now, some of the shi!t shacks people live in can be relatively expensive, but they ain't showy.

Point is you are paying $1 million for your sh@t shack and we are paying $500K for ours and have that extra money for college and grad school while you are begging for merit scholarships and feeling stressed in paying for college.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh don't get me started - especially on greatschools.org and how they punished a bunch of non-W schools for their "equity" measurements, which couldn't even apply to W schools in the first place because of the lack of economic diversity.

Check out niche.com, an alternative ratings site, which gives only slightly lower grades to east county schools than west county.

Go to Maryland Report Card and look at the test scores and percentage of kids that attend college while filtering for different demographics. When you compare students by race and income, the W schools are actually not the cream of the crop, not even close. They need to change the way they rate schools so that it is reflective of this and not just a way of telling which school has more poor or white students.

You have different populations of rich and poor. Many of the "poor" kids parents didn't go to college and don't understand the process or many other things given they may be 1st generation and live in a very different world. That doesn't make those kids less smart because their English isn't good enough to take regular standardized tests or maybe they didn't get an ES education in their home country. But, we get it. You define good by race, money, and other characteristics. Its ok but don't bash schools you have no direct knowledge of.

Many of us in the Einstein cluster do very well financially but we don't need big showy houses and live within our means. Rather than pressuring our kids to get merit aid or other financial aid for college, we can comfortably pay because we spent 1/2-1/3 of the money you spent on your house on the same income. We truly value our kids future by setting them up for success without loans or other barriers starting out their adult lives.

If you think most people at W schools live in big, showy houses, you clearly haven't spent much time there. Now, some of the shi!t shacks people live in can be relatively expensive, but they ain't showy.

Point is you are paying $1 million for your sh@t shack and we are paying $500K for ours and have that extra money for college and grad school while you are begging for merit scholarships and feeling stressed in paying for college.

Well that is a different point than your unfounded claim that people "need big showy houses." In addition to other problems with your logic, you also ignore that the added money spent on housing generally is recouped when the house is sold, meaning such a family likely would also be able to help their kids starting out.

[Anonymous]

I'm really sorry to hear about the PP whose 9th grader is not happy with the online classes and teachers. I am the parent of a recent grad. I highly recommend that your child sign up for as many AP classes as possible in the future. The previous principal eliminated on-level chemistry; so Honors Chemistry is now for all. I don't know if other on-level classes were also eliminated. None of this was announced; you have to ask a lot of questions to figure it out. Anyway, my DC loved all of their AP teachers and many of the others. It really helps to chat up the other parents to find out who the really great teachers are. When your child gets his schedule, if he has some of the teachers without a great reputation, try to come up with a reason to switch. You have to come up with a better reason than "I don't like this teacher."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Oh don't get me started - especially on greatschools.org and how they punished a bunch of non-W schools for their "equity" measurements, which couldn't even apply to W schools in the first place because of the lack of economic diversity.

Check out niche.com, an alternative ratings site, which gives only slightly lower grades to east county schools than west county.

Go to Maryland Report Card and look at the test scores and percentage of kids that attend college while filtering for different demographics. When you compare students by race and income, the W schools are actually not the cream of the crop, not even close. They need to change the way they rate schools so that it is reflective of this and not just a way of telling which school has more poor or white students.

You have different populations of rich and poor. Many of the "poor" kids parents didn't go to college and don't understand the process or many other things given they may be 1st generation and live in a very different world. That doesn't make those kids less smart because their English isn't good enough to take regular standardized tests or maybe they didn't get an ES education in their home country. But, we get it. You define good by race, money, and other characteristics. Its ok but don't bash schools you have no direct knowledge of.

Many of us in the Einstein cluster do very well financially but we don't need big showy houses and live within our means. Rather than pressuring our kids to get merit aid or other financial aid for college, we can comfortably pay because we spent 1/2-1/3 of the money you spent on your house on the same income. We truly value our kids future by setting them up for success without loans or other barriers starting out their adult lives.

If you think most people at W schools live in big, showy houses, you clearly haven't spent much time there. Now, some of the shi!t shacks people live in can be relatively expensive, but they ain't showy.

Point is you are paying $1 million for your sh@t shack and we are paying $500K for ours and have that extra money for college and grad school while you are begging for merit scholarships and feeling stressed in paying for college.

Well that is a different point than your unfounded claim that people "need big showy houses." In addition to other problems with your logic, you also ignore that the added money spent on housing generally is recouped when the house is sold, meaning such a family likely would also be able to help their kids starting out.

People are so competitive! We are zoned for Einstein, don’t have a fancy house at all, and both parents have grad degrees and professional jobs. I’m perfectly happy with the idea of my kids going to Einstein. I went to a “W” type school in the place I lived growing up, and TBH, I’m not sure it’s that great to grow up and go to school in a privilege bubble. The kids will be all right!