What do people think of Einstein?

[Anonymous]

I know the topic at hand is Einstein, but we are at WJ, and our family, and my children's friends families are not off to Matha's Vinyard or Europe every year (unless to spend time with family of origin, because despite what you have heard we are a very diverse school).

The image everyone has of every other school is incredibly skewed by stereotypes of race, socio-economics, etc.

[Anonymous]

All I know is too many Einstein parents are dropping their kids too late to arrive at school on time. I got trapped in the new traffic circle at Newport Mill Rd and Denfeld at 7:42am (class starts at 7:45am) on Thursday morning because of the very long line of cars trying to do drop offs at Einstein 1/4 mile down the road from the circle.

Leave for school earlier or let you kids out further away and let them walk up to the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What people don’t talk about here is that kids at Einstein are likely just as smart as those in W schools but it doesn’t show. They are often moving more often, do not have resources other kids have and are not surrounded by peers who are “going places” and who could challenge and inspire them. It’s not to say some Einstein students aren’t succeeding but many students are not feeling a sense that there is a ton of hope.

Who your kid surrounds themselves with is very important. If they don’t see tons of kids going off to highly competitive colleges, they won’t have that expectation for themselves.

I’ve noticed even the smarter kids at Einstein go to no name colleges. It’s just a different environment.

What are you talking about? My kids are in the same exact sports, camps, summer programs and music programs as the W kids. Only difference is the size of the college fund. Many of us have equal or higher incomes than you but we choose this area as we don't want our kids surrounded by people like you.

My no name college spouse is doing far better than my ivy league sibling (for college and graduate school).

DP and also, if PP thinks that going to name brand colleges is largely about being smart, I’ve got a bridge to sell them. If who your kids surround themselves with matters, it’s mostly because of connections, not because of intellect.

As for the DCC being a different environment than at W schools: yes, it is, and many of us here prefer it that way. I have zero interest in my children being surrounded by self-absorbed privilege and thinking that’s normal. I went to a W school myself and then learned better once I got out in the real world. So, yes, I want better for my kids, and I won’t find it at Whitman.

+1 same

Don't fool yourself into thinking Whitman is a private-like experience. It's a public school for rich kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid is in 8th in DCC and so we'll do the whole choice program. I've heard folks' impression of the other schools, but not much about Einstein. What do people like and not like about it?
Please only from parents who actually have experience or have friends with kids there. I see a lot of faulty assumptions about the down county schools in general, so I'd really like to hear what people who REALLY know it think.
Thanks.

It was fantastic. Our kids loved it and both went on to top-tier colleges.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What people don’t talk about here is that kids at Einstein are likely just as smart as those in W schools but it doesn’t show. They are often moving more often, do not have resources other kids have and are not surrounded by peers who are “going places” and who could challenge and inspire them. It’s not to say some Einstein students aren’t succeeding but many students are not feeling a sense that there is a ton of hope.

Who your kid surrounds themselves with is very important. If they don’t see tons of kids going off to highly competitive colleges, they won’t have that expectation for themselves.

I’ve noticed even the smarter kids at Einstein go to no name colleges. It’s just a different environment.

What are you talking about? My kids are in the same exact sports, camps, summer programs and music programs as the W kids. Only difference is the size of the college fund. Many of us have equal or higher incomes than you but we choose this area as we don't want our kids surrounded by people like you.

My no name college spouse is doing far better than my ivy league sibling (for college and graduate school).

DP and also, if PP thinks that going to name brand colleges is largely about being smart, I’ve got a bridge to sell them. If who your kids surround themselves with matters, it’s mostly because of connections, not because of intellect.

As for the DCC being a different environment than at W schools: yes, it is, and many of us here prefer it that way. I have zero interest in my children being surrounded by self-absorbed privilege and thinking that’s normal. I went to a W school myself and then learned better once I got out in the real world. So, yes, I want better for my kids, and I won’t find it at Whitman.

+1 same

Don't fool yourself into thinking Whitman is a private-like experience. It's a public school for rich kids.

For rich families or over extended families to cheap to pay for private. They want bragging rights to think Whitman is that special. Many of the kids I knew who went there were no happier there than any other school.

Colleges will only take so many kids from each high school. So, with wealthier parents, they get tutors are are generally "smarter" so your child may have a better chance at colleges at a school like Einstein over Whitman. (and a better college fund)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What people don’t talk about here is that kids at Einstein are likely just as smart as those in W schools but it doesn’t show. They are often moving more often, do not have resources other kids have and are not surrounded by peers who are “going places” and who could challenge and inspire them. It’s not to say some Einstein students aren’t succeeding but many students are not feeling a sense that there is a ton of hope.

Who your kid surrounds themselves with is very important. If they don’t see tons of kids going off to highly competitive colleges, they won’t have that expectation for themselves.

I’ve noticed even the smarter kids at Einstein go to no name colleges. It’s just a different environment.

What are you talking about? My kids are in the same exact sports, camps, summer programs and music programs as the W kids. Only difference is the size of the college fund. Many of us have equal or higher incomes than you but we choose this area as we don't want our kids surrounded by people like you.

My no name college spouse is doing far better than my ivy league sibling (for college and graduate school).

DP and also, if PP thinks that going to name brand colleges is largely about being smart, I’ve got a bridge to sell them. If
who your kids surround themselves with matters, it’s mostly because of connections, not because of intellect.

As for the DCC being a different environment than at W schools: yes, it is, and many of us here prefer it that way. I have zero interest in my children being surrounded by self-absorbed privilege and thinking that’s normal. I went to a W school myself and then learned better once I got out in the real world. So, yes, I want better for my kids, and I won’t find it at Whitman.

+1 same

Don't fool yourself into thinking Whitman is a private-like experience. It's a public school for rich kids.

For rich families or over extended families to cheap to pay for private. They want bragging rights to think Whitman is that special. Many of the kids I knew who went there were no happier there than any other school.

Colleges will only take so many kids from each high school. So, with wealthier parents, they get tutors are are generally "smarter" so your child may have a better chance at colleges at a school like Einstein over Whitman. (and a better college fund)

Whitman parents for the most part aren’t worried about their kids getting into colleges, they just don’t want their kids going to school with the kids that go to Einstein. End of conversation.

Einstein parents are worried about their kids getting into college and rationalizing it that way because 1) it helps them feel better about their ability to provide while only making it so high up the ladder (it’s what’s best for my kids anyway right??) & 2)they know how precarious it is for the mediocre middle and if they don’t make a decent college, they will qualify for the same outcome as the “other” half of Einstein’s kids get which isn’t very good. Say what you want but almost no one who doesn’t have a melt down post Whitman ends up like most of Einstein does on an avg day. Maybe it isn’t the school but the economic safety net those kids enjoy but who wants to go swimming with a bunch of kids who don’t know how to swim? Well maybe Einstein parents, oh wait they don’t, they just make their kids.

[Anonymous]

W aren’t better schools, they are better peer groups that enjoy better resources while consistently producing better outcomes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:W aren’t better schools, they are better peer groups that enjoy better resources while consistently producing better outcomes

I teach at a W and firmly believe this is NOT a peer group I want for my children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W aren’t better schools, they are better peer groups that enjoy better resources while consistently producing better outcomes

I teach at a W and firmly believe this is NOT a peer group I want for my children.

The big diff between a W and a less affluent school is one might 4 sections of AP English while the other has 3.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What people don’t talk about here is that kids at Einstein are likely just as smart as those in W schools but it doesn’t show. They are often moving more often, do not have resources other kids have and are not surrounded by peers who are “going places” and who could challenge and inspire them. It’s not to say some Einstein students aren’t succeeding but many students are not feeling a sense that there is a ton of hope.

Who your kid surrounds themselves with is very important. If they don’t see tons of kids going off to highly competitive colleges, they won’t have that expectation for themselves.

I’ve noticed even the smarter kids at Einstein go to no name colleges. It’s just a different environment.

What are you talking about? My kids are in the same exact sports, camps, summer programs and music programs as the W kids. Only difference is the size of the college fund. Many of us have equal or higher incomes than you but we choose this area as we don't want our kids surrounded by people like you.

My no name college spouse is doing far better than my ivy league sibling (for college and graduate school).

DP and also, if PP thinks that going to name brand colleges is largely about being smart, I’ve got a bridge to sell them. If
who your kids surround themselves with matters, it’s mostly because of connections, not because of intellect.

As for the DCC being a different environment than at W schools: yes, it is, and many of us here prefer it that way. I have zero interest in my children being surrounded by self-absorbed privilege and thinking that’s normal. I went to a W school myself and then learned better once I got out in the real world. So, yes, I want better for my kids, and I won’t find it at Whitman.

+1 same

Don't fool yourself into thinking Whitman is a private-like experience. It's a public school for rich kids.

For rich families or over extended families to cheap to pay for private. They want bragging rights to think Whitman is that special. Many of the kids I knew who went there were no happier there than any other school.

Colleges will only take so many kids from each high school. So, with wealthier parents, they get tutors are are generally "smarter" so your child may have a better chance at colleges at a school like Einstein over Whitman. (and a better college fund)

Whitman parents for the most part aren’t worried about their kids getting into colleges, they just don’t want their kids going to school with the kids that go to Einstein. End of conversation.

Einstein parents are worried about their kids getting into college and rationalizing it that way because 1) it helps them feel better about their ability to provide while only making it so high up the ladder (it’s what’s best for my kids anyway right??) & 2)they know how precarious it is for the mediocre middle and if they don’t make a decent college, they will qualify for the same outcome as the “other” half of Einstein’s kids get which isn’t very good. Say what you want but almost no one who doesn’t have a melt down post Whitman ends up like most of Einstein does on an avg day. Maybe it isn’t the school but the economic safety net those kids enjoy but who wants to go swimming with a bunch of kids who don’t know how to swim? Well maybe Einstein parents, oh wait they don’t, they just make their kids.

This is so poorly written.

[Anonymous]

Esol from a parent who doesn't want her kids going to school with other Esol that might be the wrong sort? Or just someone's Ole Miss trophy wife trying to swim when she doesn't know how to read?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What people don’t talk about here is that kids at Einstein are likely just as smart as those in W schools but it doesn’t show. They are often moving more often, do not have resources other kids have and are not surrounded by peers who are “going places” and who could challenge and inspire them. It’s not to say some Einstein students aren’t succeeding but many students are not feeling a sense that there is a ton of hope.

Who your kid surrounds themselves with is very important. If they don’t see tons of kids going off to highly competitive colleges, they won’t have that expectation for themselves.

I’ve noticed even the smarter kids at Einstein go to no name colleges. It’s just a different environment.

What are you talking about? My kids are in the same exact sports, camps, summer programs and music programs as the W kids. Only difference is the size of the college fund. Many of us have equal or higher incomes than you but we choose this area as we don't want our kids surrounded by people like you.

My no name college spouse is doing far better than my ivy league sibling (for college and graduate school).

DP and also, if PP thinks that going to name brand colleges is largely about being smart, I’ve got a bridge to sell them. If
who your kids surround themselves with matters, it’s mostly because of connections, not because of intellect.

As for the DCC being a different environment than at W schools: yes, it is, and many of us here prefer it that way. I have zero interest in my children being surrounded by self-absorbed privilege and thinking that’s normal. I went to a W school myself and then learned better once I got out in the real world. So, yes, I want better for my kids, and I won’t find it at Whitman.

+1 same

Don't fool yourself into thinking Whitman is a private-like experience. It's a public school for rich kids.

For rich families or over extended families to cheap to pay for private. They want bragging rights to think Whitman is that special. Many of the kids I knew who went there were no happier there than any other school.

Colleges will only take so many kids from each high school. So, with wealthier parents, they get tutors are are generally "smarter" so your child may have a better chance at colleges at a school like Einstein over Whitman. (and a better college fund)

Whitman parents for the most part aren’t worried about their kids getting into colleges, they just don’t want their kids going to school with the kids that go to Einstein. End of conversation.

Einstein parents are worried about their kids getting into college and rationalizing it that way because 1) it helps them feel better about their ability to provide while only making it so high up the ladder (it’s what’s best for my kids anyway right??) & 2)they know how precarious it is for the mediocre middle and if they don’t make a decent college, they will qualify for the same outcome as the “other” half of Einstein’s kids get which isn’t very good. Say what you want but almost no one who doesn’t have a melt down post Whitman ends up like most of Einstein does on an avg day. Maybe it isn’t the school but the economic safety net those kids enjoy but who wants to go swimming with a bunch of kids who don’t know how to swim? Well maybe Einstein parents, oh wait they don’t, they just make their kids.

This is so poorly written.

It's also crazy nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W aren’t better schools, they are better peer groups that enjoy better resources while consistently producing better outcomes

I teach at a W and firmly believe this is NOT a peer group I want for my children.

The big diff between a W and a less affluent school is one might 4 sections of AP English while the other has 3.

Yep, the rest is just justifying your choices. Same kid would do the same at any of these schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What people don’t talk about here is that kids at Einstein are likely just as smart as those in W schools but it doesn’t show. They are often moving more often, do not have resources other kids have and are not surrounded by peers who are “going places” and who could challenge and inspire them. It’s not to say some Einstein students aren’t succeeding but many students are not feeling a sense that there is a ton of hope.

Who your kid surrounds themselves with is very important. If they don’t see tons of kids going off to highly competitive colleges, they won’t have that expectation for themselves.

I’ve noticed even the smarter kids at Einstein go to no name colleges. It’s just a different environment.

What are you talking about? My kids are in the same exact sports, camps, summer programs and music programs as the W kids. Only difference is the size of the college fund. Many of us have equal or higher incomes than you but we choose this area as we don't want our kids surrounded by people like you.

My no name college spouse is doing far better than my ivy league sibling (for college and graduate school).

DP and also, if PP thinks that going to name brand colleges is largely about being smart, I’ve got a bridge to sell them. If
who your kids surround themselves with matters, it’s mostly because of connections, not because of intellect.

As for the DCC being a different environment than at W schools: yes, it is, and many of us here prefer it that way. I have zero interest in my children being surrounded by self-absorbed privilege and thinking that’s normal. I went to a W school myself and then learned better once I got out in the real world. So, yes, I want better for my kids, and I won’t find it at Whitman.

+1 same

Don't fool yourself into thinking Whitman is a private-like experience. It's a public school for rich kids.

For rich families or over extended families to cheap to pay for private. They want bragging rights to think Whitman is that special. Many of the kids I knew who went there were no happier there than any other school.

Colleges will only take so many kids from each high school. So, with wealthier parents, they get tutors are are generally "smarter" so your child may have a better chance at colleges at a school like Einstein over Whitman. (and a better college fund)

Whitman parents for the most part aren’t worried about their kids getting into colleges, they just don’t want their kids going to school with the kids that go to Einstein. End of conversation.

Einstein parents are worried about their kids getting into college and rationalizing it that way because 1) it helps them feel better about their ability to provide while only making it so high up the ladder (it’s what’s best for my kids anyway right??) & 2)they know how precarious it is for the mediocre middle and if they don’t make a decent college, they will qualify for the same outcome as the “other” half of Einstein’s kids get which isn’t very good. Say what you want but almost no one who doesn’t have a melt down post Whitman ends up like most of Einstein does on an avg day. Maybe it isn’t the school but the economic safety net those kids enjoy but who wants to go swimming with a bunch of kids who don’t know how to swim? Well maybe Einstein parents, oh wait they don’t, they just make their kids.

This is so poorly written.

It's also crazy nonsense.

It's a fairy tale to justify how they bought a house they couldn't afford

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W aren’t better schools, they are better peer groups that enjoy better resources while consistently producing better outcomes

I teach at a W and firmly believe this is NOT a peer group I want for my children.

Being a teacher you know about the concept of sour grapes and your ability to actually afford living in a W zone without the help of a man or family.