I don't get it- very few CES kids get into magnet school?

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Anonymous wrote:OMG! What bull! Stop trying to make up things and see if it sticks!!

Everyone within MCPS was shocked when the central office pulled the new "enriched classes" out of their behinds. The principals and teachers were incredibly pissed off that this was sprung out of no where. It created a huge problem in the middle schools with the rejected high performing cohorts. Do you really think for one second that principals and teachers are going to play along with your new spin idea? NO WAY

I saw it and heard it at the meeting. I and others posted last year, which is searchable. Also, I and I assume the other posters that saw it aren't arguing that MCPS didn't tell teachers and principals the plan. MCPS is dysfunctional, not arguing that point. What most likely happened is that they mentioned it in passing at the meeting and put the info on the slide to do their due diligence just in case someone complained/tried to sue and they could come back and say MCPS was being transparent. Not arguing that what they did was right, but I prefer to discuss issues based on facts.

Facts often get in the way of social engineering so they should be ignored.... Stick with the narrative and keep repeating it over and over again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG! What bull! Stop trying to make up things and see if it sticks!!

Everyone within MCPS was shocked when the central office pulled the new "enriched classes" out of their behinds. The principals and teachers were incredibly pissed off that this was sprung out of no where. It created a huge problem in the middle schools with the rejected high performing cohorts. Do you really think for one second that principals and teachers are going to play along with your new spin idea? NO WAY

I saw it and heard it at the meeting. I and others posted last year, which is searchable. Also, I and I assume the other posters that saw it aren't arguing that MCPS didn't tell teachers and principals the plan. MCPS is dysfunctional, not arguing that point. What most likely happened is that they mentioned it in passing at the meeting and put the info on the slide to do their due diligence just in case someone complained/tried to sue and they could come back and say MCPS was being transparent. Not arguing that what they did was right, but I prefer to discuss issues based on facts.

Facts often get in the way of social engineering so they should be ignored.... Stick with the narrative and keep repeating it over and over again.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm getting really, really tired of the "MCPS is stealing my deserving kid's spot and giving it to an undeserving black/brown/poor kid with no-count parents!" thing.

Yet that exactly what they keep doing. Putting in diversity candidates with lower test scores. Opposite of merit based.

If MCPS wanted to shut everyone up, they’d released scrubbed data of who was accepted last year and this year.

"Diversity candidates". Ugh. Please, just stop.

Fake term that parents whose children were rejected because of low scores use to make themselves feel better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG! What bull! Stop trying to make up things and see if it sticks!!

Everyone within MCPS was shocked when the central office pulled the new "enriched classes" out of their behinds. The principals and teachers were incredibly pissed off that this was sprung out of no where. It created a huge problem in the middle schools with the rejected high performing cohorts. Do you really think for one second that principals and teachers are going to play along with your new spin idea? NO WAY

I saw it and heard it at the meeting. I and others posted last year, which is searchable. Also, I and I assume the other posters that saw it aren't arguing that MCPS didn't tell teachers and principals the plan. MCPS is dysfunctional, not arguing that point. What most likely happened is that they mentioned it in passing at the meeting and put the info on the slide to do their due diligence just in case someone complained/tried to sue and they could come back and say MCPS was being transparent. Not arguing that what they did was right, but I prefer to discuss issues based on facts.

Facts often get in the way of social engineering so they should be ignored.... Stick with the narrative and keep repeating it over and over again.

?? Please translate

sarcasm...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is not very good at keeping anything secret. Central office did not have a carefully laid out plan for enriched classes that it chose to hide from the local schools until just the right last moment. They are so stupid and insular that it didn't occur to them that their backsides would get badly burned by changing the magnet criteria from highest performers to racially selected admits. The sudden roll out of enriched classes were grasping at straws to cover themselves.

Now long term -yes internally MCPS has not been secret or quiet about wanting to end the magnets all together and move to enriched home school (cough cough -same watered down honors classes that you see now).

This post is further evidence that on DCUM, whatever MCPS does is wrong. DCUM hollered for gifted classes in the home middle school. Now there are gifted classes in the home middle school. Yay! - right? Wrong. DCUM is still hollering, because MCPS rolled then out wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really bothered by the propaganda that deflects away from the fact that they changed the criteria not to get the most qualified students but to get the demographic profile of the students that they wanted. This is just wrong. Its been stated again and again that no one objects to universal testing, people object moving admission away from merit based and toward racial profiling. Yet again and again the MCPS PR booster will try to float in that the only change was universal testing. This simply isn't true and you should stop lying.

I think the universal testing has affected the process more than the peer cohorts. Their kid not being invited because she has a cohort Is just easier for parents to swallow than “they scored high, but not high enough”, which is what a lot of posted cogat results are showing. 99 percentile nationally but only 86th percentile MCPS? Universal testing is turning up more bright students.

It's easier for some parents to feel victimized than accept there were more qualified applicants than theirs, but at least in my experience as a TPMS magnet parent, your assessment seems true.

I agree, the stories posted this year sound completely different. Instead of people talking about across the board 99s that were rejected and assuming those were due to cohort, there are people asking how their child has always tested 99 and "bombed" the magnet test. Difference this year is the MCPS percentiles that better distinguish between scores. It doesn't sound like many with high MCPS percentiles were shut out, at least they aren't as vocal, and last year they were very vocal. The breakdown of who was applying to the magnet before universal screening is eyeopening. Yes, perhaps that means those parents weren't doing all they could for their kids, but it also means the families who did apply, had a much better chance under the old system. And sorry, it's entirely possible for a family that never would have applied before, to nonetheless fully support their student once they attend.

Did vocal parents get anything last year?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really bothered by the propaganda that deflects away from the fact that they changed the criteria not to get the most qualified students but to get the demographic profile of the students that they wanted. This is just wrong. Its been stated again and again that no one objects to universal testing, people object moving admission away from merit based and toward racial profiling. Yet again and again the MCPS PR booster will try to float in that the only change was universal testing. This simply isn't true and you should stop lying.

I think the universal testing has affected the process more than the peer cohorts. Their kid not being invited because she has a cohort Is just easier for parents to swallow than “they scored high, but not high enough”, which is what a lot of posted cogat results are showing. 99 percentile nationally but only 86th percentile MCPS? Universal testing is turning up more bright students.

It's easier for some parents to feel victimized than accept there were more qualified applicants than theirs, but at least in my experience as a TPMS magnet parent, your assessment seems true.

I agree, the stories posted this year sound completely different. Instead of people talking about across the board 99s that were rejected and assuming those were due to cohort, there are people asking how their child has always tested 99 and "bombed" the magnet test. Difference this year is the MCPS percentiles that better distinguish between scores. It doesn't sound like many with high MCPS percentiles were shut out, at least they aren't as vocal, and last year they were very vocal. The breakdown of who was applying to the magnet before universal screening is eyeopening. Yes, perhaps that means those parents weren't doing all they could for their kids, but it also means the families who did apply, had a much better chance under the old system. And sorry, it's entirely possible for a family that never would have applied before, to nonetheless fully support their student once they attend.

Did vocal parents get anything last year?

No, so they are back.

[Anonymous]

When MCPS fails to serve these high caliber kids, parents should stand up to take care of these kids to make sure they still grow at their own paces. Don’t let MCPS limit them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When MCPS fails to serve these high caliber kids, parents should stand up to take care of these kids to make sure they still grow at their own paces. Don’t let MCPS limit them.

Yes do the job that MCPS is too subpar and sub scale to do: teach and challenge bright students at home or elsewhere than MCPS.

MCPS is counting on it.

Enjoy your game of chicken with social justice warriors po-dunk college Central Office gov’t Lifers.

[Anonymous]

Yes, but they are still kids and they should do school during school so that they can have a normal life. There is no good point to wasting their time all day and then doing “real” schoolwork at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, but they are still kids and they should do school during school so that they can have a normal life. There is no good point to wasting their time all day and then doing “real” schoolwork at home.

If your kids are so much smarter than average, you should send them to a competitive private school. No time will be wasted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, but they are still kids and they should do school during school so that they can have a normal life. There is no good point to wasting their time all day and then doing “real” schoolwork at home.

If your kids are so much smarter than average, you should send them to a competitive private school. No time will be wasted.

Because money grow on tree, and I can pick soe to pay for private school tuition. If only the dollar tree were real...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, but they are still kids and they should do school during school so that they can have a normal life. There is no good point to wasting their time all day and then doing “real” schoolwork at home.

If your kids are so much smarter than average, you should send them to a competitive private school. No time will be wasted.

Um, is this sarcasm? I can’t afford to send my kids to a competitive private. Neither can most parents. HENCE THE FARMS ELEMENT AND COHORT ELEMENT IN THE ADMISSION PROCESS (please imagine I said that like Dwight discussing bears in “The Office”)...

Also, the top third of kids in DC’s class are going at half the pace that would best suit them, so it isn’t like we’re talking about just a few kids. There just isn’t enough widely available differentiation in the MCPS curriculum until high school.

And why shouldn’t we hold our public institutions to a decent standard? Their ours, funded through our taxes and designed to serve our communities. They can’t be perfect, but they absolutely can be great.

[Anonymous]

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Did vocal parents get anything last year?

Yes. Two gifted classes at the home middle schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Did vocal parents get anything last year?

Yes. Two gifted classes at the home middle schools.

They should just call then gifted classes to olacebo the tigers.