What do people consider the most prestigious college in the Midwest?

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Wow, such drama, Oberlin isn’t toxic by any stretch of the imagination.

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Because of the nutty UChi parents on here, college confidential and reddit I'd never allow my kids to apply there. Thanks to their shilling, the college reeks of insecurity, overcompensation and Ivy envy.

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Somehow that doesn’t feel like much of a loss....

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Anonymous wrote:Because of the nutty UChi parents on here, college confidential and reddit I'd never allow my kids to apply there. Thanks to their shilling, the college reeks of insecurity, overcompensation and Ivy envy.

Dumb post of the day. So your kid comes up to you and says “I think I’d like to check out U Chicago. I’ve been reading about it and it really appeals to me. Can we go visit?” You naturally respond “sorry junior. No can do. There are crazy people on the internet who like it too much.” You can’t be that stupid. Tell me you were drinking when you wrote that.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need 16 pages on this? It's obvious U. of Chicago. https://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/2018-university-rankings/top-25-best-colleges-midwest-2018-rankings/

That’s right. If College Raptor says so, it must be. Glad we cleared that up!

Third in the U.S. for Universities after Princeton and Harvard. If you don't know Chicago's reputation there is just something wrong with you. U.S. News & world report. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Chicago has a fine reputation. I just don’t understand the notion that a for-profit magazine is the arbiter of what the best colleges are.

You're one of the Catholics boosting for Notre Dame, right? Seriously, the answer for any guidance counselor is Chicago. Just go and compare GPA and test score to get in. This is not brain surgery.

Why is the assumption that the booster is Catholic? I'll tell you why...you have an issue with Catholics.

Oh FFS. I’m Catholic. ND is an excellent education. On par with Georgetown. But Chicago is a different league. If you are trying to impress the 60 year olds in your neighborhood, go ND. If you are trying to impress grad schools and employers, choose Chicago.

Not an alum of either school. No kid at either school.

There is no meaningful difference in the way employers and grad schools view UChicago and Notre Dame and anyone who tries to suggest there is is very off base.

My husband’s top consulting firm hires lots of kids from ND...never heard much about Chicago. They like the the excellent academics with a focus on service in the community.

You know the hiring practices at your husband's "top" firm? How June Cleaver.

At our firm Chicago grads are on the top of the resume pile. ND in the middle.

There are some seriously weird women posting here. U. of chicago no. 3 after Harvard and Princeton. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/university-of-chicago-1774.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need 16 pages on this? It's obvious U. of Chicago. https://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/2018-university-rankings/top-25-best-colleges-midwest-2018-rankings/

That’s right. If College Raptor says so, it must be. Glad we cleared that up!

Third in the U.S. for Universities after Princeton and Harvard. If you don't know Chicago's reputation there is just something wrong with you. U.S. News & world report. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Chicago has a fine reputation. I just don’t understand the notion that a for-profit magazine is the arbiter of what the best colleges are.

You're one of the Catholics boosting for Notre Dame, right? Seriously, the answer for any guidance counselor is Chicago. Just go and compare GPA and test score to get in. This is not brain surgery.

Why is the assumption that the booster is Catholic? I'll tell you why...you have an issue with Catholics.

Oh FFS. I’m Catholic. ND is an excellent education. On par with Georgetown. But Chicago is a different league. If you are trying to impress the 60 year olds in your neighborhood, go ND. If you are trying to impress grad schools and employers, choose Chicago.

Not an alum of either school. No kid at either school.

There is no meaningful difference in the way employers and grad schools view UChicago and Notre Dame and anyone who tries to suggest there is is very off base.

My husband’s top consulting firm hires lots of kids from ND...never heard much about Chicago. They like the the excellent academics with a focus on service in the community.

You know the hiring practices at your husband's "top" firm? How June Cleaver.

At our firm Chicago grads are on the top of the resume pile. ND in the middle.

There are some seriously weird women posting here. U. of chicago no. 3 after Harvard and Princeton. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/university-of-chicago-1774.

June Cleaver here. My dear husband acknowledges that U of Chicago is an amazing school. They just prefer to hire people out of Notre Dame for numerous reasons outlined in my prior post. This is not a competition. Just saying both ND and Chicago are great schools, but very different student body. Both have different strengths.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need 16 pages on this? It's obvious U. of Chicago. https://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/2018-university-rankings/top-25-best-colleges-midwest-2018-rankings/

That’s right. If College Raptor says so, it must be. Glad we cleared that up!

Third in the U.S. for Universities after Princeton and Harvard. If you don't know Chicago's reputation there is just something wrong with you. U.S. News & world report. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Chicago has a fine reputation. I just don’t understand the notion that a for-profit magazine is the arbiter of what the best colleges are.

You're one of the Catholics boosting for Notre Dame, right? Seriously, the answer for any guidance counselor is Chicago. Just go and compare GPA and test score to get in. This is not brain surgery.

Why is the assumption that the booster is Catholic? I'll tell you why...you have an issue with Catholics.

Oh FFS. I’m Catholic. ND is an excellent education. On par with Georgetown. But Chicago is a different league. If you are trying to impress the 60 year olds in your neighborhood, go ND. If you are trying to impress grad schools and employers, choose Chicago.

Not an alum of either school. No kid at either school.

There is no meaningful difference in the way employers and grad schools view UChicago and Notre Dame and anyone who tries to suggest there is is very off base.

My husband’s top consulting firm hires lots of kids from ND...never heard much about Chicago. They like the the excellent academics with a focus on service in the community.

You know the hiring practices at your husband's "top" firm? How June Cleaver.

At our firm Chicago grads are on the top of the resume pile. ND in the middle.

There are some seriously weird women posting here. U. of chicago no. 3 after Harvard and Princeton. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/university-of-chicago-1774.

June Cleaver here. My dear husband acknowledges that U of Chicago is an amazing school. They just prefer to hire people out of Notre Dame for numerous reasons outlined in my prior post. This is not a competition. Just saying both ND and Chicago are great schools, but very different student body. Both have different strengths.

I attended both, and yes, they are different. Very different. Which is the best? Just both very different but the academics at UChicago have an edge, just like the athletics/public service at ND. Both great schools though. I'm a happy alum.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need 16 pages on this? It's obvious U. of Chicago. https://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/2018-university-rankings/top-25-best-colleges-midwest-2018-rankings/

That’s right. If College Raptor says so, it must be. Glad we cleared that up!

Third in the U.S. for Universities after Princeton and Harvard. If you don't know Chicago's reputation there is just something wrong with you. U.S. News & world report. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Chicago has a fine reputation. I just don’t understand the notion that a for-profit magazine is the arbiter of what the best colleges are.

You're one of the Catholics boosting for Notre Dame, right? Seriously, the answer for any guidance counselor is Chicago. Just go and compare GPA and test score to get in. This is not brain surgery.

Why is the assumption that the booster is Catholic? I'll tell you why...you have an issue with Catholics.

Oh FFS. I’m Catholic. ND is an excellent education. On par with Georgetown. But Chicago is a different league. If you are trying to impress the 60 year olds in your neighborhood, go ND. If you are trying to impress grad schools and employers, choose Chicago.

Not an alum of either school. No kid at either school.

There is no meaningful difference in the way employers and grad schools view UChicago and Notre Dame and anyone who tries to suggest there is is very off base.

My husband’s top consulting firm hires lots of kids from ND...never heard much about Chicago. They like the the excellent academics with a focus on service in the community.

You know the hiring practices at your husband's "top" firm? How June Cleaver.

At our firm Chicago grads are on the top of the resume pile. ND in the middle.

There are some seriously weird women posting here. U. of chicago no. 3 after Harvard and Princeton. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/university-of-chicago-1774.

Again, why is some for-profit magazine the arbiter here? And why do you presume that because school X is ranked higher by said magazine than school Y, that means their graduates are automatically more desirable to firms than school Y?

Sounds like the logic of someone who is fairly unfamiliar with hiring and recruiting.

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Anonymous wrote:Many elite colleges don’t have engineering programs either. That does not mean that MIT isn’t elite.

Notre Dame holds its own with virtually any university in the country outside of the top five. To suggest otherwise is to be decades behind the times. Or to be an anti-Catholic bigot . . .

I am Catholic and send my kids to a Catholic school. I also was on our hiring committee for years. Chicago blows ND out of the water. ND is a bro school.

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Anonymous wrote:Many elite colleges don’t have engineering programs either. That does not mean that MIT isn’t elite.

Notre Dame holds its own with virtually any university in the country outside of the top five. To suggest otherwise is to be decades behind the times. Or to be an anti-Catholic bigot . . .

I am Catholic and send my kids to a Catholic school. I also was on our hiring committee for years. Chicago blows ND out of the water. ND is a bro school.

Maybe it depends on the industry. People keep talking about how the academics at Chicago are sooo much better. And maybe they are. But when I'm hiring someone, I'm not hiring them solely on academics. That's why the 4.0 kid doesn't always get hired over the 3.5 kid. Yes, academics play a role, but so too does emotional intelligence. Can they work as a team? Can I trust them to do well with our clients (e.g. be personable, not awkward, etc.)? Are they good at building relationships with others? And sorry, but there is a large contingent of UChicago kids for whom that is just not true.

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Chicago is super Jewish (and Indian).
ND is all gentiles.

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Anonymous wrote:Many elite colleges don’t have engineering programs either. That does not mean that MIT isn’t elite.

Notre Dame holds its own with virtually any university in the country outside of the top five. To suggest otherwise is to be decades behind the times. Or to be an anti-Catholic bigot . . .

I am Catholic and send my kids to a Catholic school. I also was on our hiring committee for years. Chicago blows ND out of the water. ND is a bro school.

Maybe it depends on the industry. People keep talking about how the academics at Chicago are sooo much better. And maybe they are. But when I'm hiring someone, I'm not hiring them solely on academics. That's why the 4.0 kid doesn't always get hired over the 3.5 kid. Yes, academics play a role, but so too does emotional intelligence. Can they work as a team? Can I trust them to do well with our clients (e.g. be personable, not awkward, etc.)? Are they good at building relationships with others? And sorry, but there is a large contingent of UChicago kids for whom that is just not true.

June Cleaver again. Yes, my husband said that in so many words, but I didn't want to insult the UChicago people.

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It's just weird that if you ask for prestigious colleges anywhere in the US you would get a list, but here in the Midwest, there is 1, only 1.

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My husband is an engineer and he said even ND’s engineering majors are specifically groomed to be leaders/upper managers, not typical grinds.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, such drama, Oberlin isn’t toxic by any stretch of the imagination.

There is one poster who loves to post negative stuff about Oberlin. It’s constant and childish. Clearly they have not spent much time at Oberlin recently.